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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

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Well, casinos have the rights to ban any accounts that doesn't do according to their rules. Actually, a gambler need to keep their identity protected, and anyone who doesn't have a gamble account should not give out his personal documents to anyone for them to verify KYC just because of little penny. However, nowadays some scammers uses gamble platform to do money laundrying, so with all this, one need to be careful with his or her documents.

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 21, 2024, 11:18:17 AM

Wow, little did I know that that's how it works. I actually thought that if casino "A" ban a player, the player can just move on to register on another casino "B". If that's the case, that's why those ban users try to create account with someone's details or buy account other another user. I can never allow someone use my personal details to do KYC because it's risky.

If a gambler was banned and he still registered on that same casino with another identity, he might still get caught again. So there is no need to give anyone our documents to verify their false KYC.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

If the casino administrator found a strong evidence of the lapses thar you've made there's no hesitation they'll really going to ban or restrict you for the sake of their safety. Identify breach is rampant along casino, but there's no exception for this because eventually the get caught in the long run. So always bare in mind that it's rather to follow rules instead of account got compromise.

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Quote from: tread93 on November 21, 2024, 12:05:25 AM

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.

It’s the promise of huge earnings that keep them coming back for more as well.

You might be surprised by to what lengths a person can go to just for money. That is quite literally why we have criminals that exist. The only difference I guess is some of the criminals that steal money they do it because they need the money for survival while those criminals who steal identity to win some money do it just because they want to have fun. Never mind that they could easily lose as well.

Gambling is fun and they will do anything to keep chasing that high of winning all the time. Maybe these are the people who need help.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

Some persons get blind by rewards and profit but they don't look at the risk of what they are about to do. If casino bands their customer for a valid reason, then the person should try a different casino.

Sadly, casino can detect whether specific is banned from other casino when they submit KYC they are same game provider with all their games. Game provider usually the one who flagged user when they are using multiple account from different casino while the account connected has a violation.

You can’t experience a hassle free gambling life if your identity was already tagged as problematic gambler because you will experience the same on other casino once they are detected the connection.

Wow, little did I know that that's how it works. I actually thought that if casino "A" ban a player, the player can just move on to register on another casino "B". If that's the case, that's why those ban users try to create account with someone's details or buy account other another user. I can never allow someone use my personal details to do KYC because it's risky.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting.

Has anyone seen a lower-effort article than his one?
No information
- where this happened
- no information on how much they were paid for
- no information on who got ahold of it
- no information if they were prosecuted
Nothing, not even the name of the facebook page where this is supposed to happen, not a single tiny bit of info at all to make this story look even a bit legit!

This is how a real article, probably the original source looks like:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/17/your-id-for-400-warnings-issued-after-australian-gambling-syndicates-offer-money-for-documents

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Quote from: len01 on November 21, 2024, 06:42:53 AM

There is no way to limit a gambler from continuing to access the casino because in this era of technological development, no matter how strong the casino is, in the end the gambler always has a way to be able to bet on a particular casino.
Now we are all here to give our respective opinions and for me I will give an example of a fiat online casino that always tries to block the IP and device of a gambler, they can still bet using their family member's account or their own friend's.
So the more technology develops, the casino will not be able to overcome this. Because out there there are so many very smart people.

That is true, over time and as the development of the age with the technology will not be able to stop gamblers from doing gambling because everything can be obtained, even when KYC as a veryification of personal data that has been banned can use other people's data to access the same thing and It's easy at this time to do without the casino owner knowing it, it is a definite thing to be done, so it will be useless to prohibit, but at least the casino runs the procedure in confirming the account that committed violations, it is better than not at all.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

The cheater will still find a way to cheat the casino, even if it is tightened, the cheater will change their ways to keep breaking it. I think what casinos do to resolve their problem is take care of them. if that is indeed the casino case, invite them to come nicely, engage them in the discussion, and ask them what they want so that it continues to interfere with the business. Explain to them why their activities very disruptive to your business. So if they still remains like that, then your next action is call police and and track down where they live.

We are not dealing with physical casinos where gamblers can easily be identified. The online or crypto gambling sector deals with people that are from different countries who are difficult to locate. I think casinos should hire experts who will keep building mechanisms that can easily identify these cheaters. Casinos will have to keep advancing their security and ensure they identify current methods and schemes that these cheaters use to scam these casinos. Immediately their shady deals are identified, and their accounts should be investigated and restricted accordingly.

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Quote from: Natalim on November 21, 2024, 08:55:41 AM

When it comes to verification, there’s not much they can do if their KYC process only requires a basic ID. It’s easy enough to get a legit ID, even if the person doesn’t actually own the account. And even with stricter processes, people can still find ways around it. Ultimately, it’s up to the gambler to bypass restrictions. The casino’s job is just to verify and approve based on the documents provided, it’s not foolproof, but that’s the system.

Casinos always have a statement that says, "You agree to all the terms" when you sign up. Part of those terms is submitting documents that are true and accurate, without trying to cheat the system. Once you agree, the responsibility shifts to you, as the casino applies the same verification process to all their clients equally.

If a gambler decides to use fake information just to gamble, that’s on them. It’s a serious offense and could have legal consequences. If the real owner of the stolen information decides to take action, it could even lead to imprisonment. There’s risk involved for both sides, which is why it’s always better to be truthful from the start. Honesty saves you from unnecessary trouble.

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Quote from: retreat on November 20, 2024, 01:03:40 PM

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Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee.

LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

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That is also a problem. Poor government governance of people's personal identities is something that needs to be considered, because often "criminals" use other people's personal data that they get from hacking government databases or data leak trading sites. This problem is morally detrimental to the people whose data is used because they don't know about the data and suddenly it is used either for crypto projects or registering on gambling sites.

That's right, I agree with your statement that even though we have protected our identity as best as possible, there are still other possibilities that could occur that could endanger our identity, such as leaks of public data in the government, and of course the ones who are to blame are those governments who are careless. in managing people's identity data, but for that problem I don't think there is anything we can do as a society apart from warning government officials to be more careful and more thorough in protecting people's identities in government, because it is not uncommon for such cases to occur which Many people feel at a loss when their data is misused by parties irresponsible people who ultimately cause a lot of problems in their lives.

People are really that too mindful about identity stuffs and other correlated aspects into it on which we do really prefer out on which kind of thing but we've been long time exposing ourselves about into those self information or identity related when dealing up with centralized services on which people do really just that not able to realize with. Although it cant be denied that there would really be those times or moments that you will really be thinking up with those informations that might leaked out specially on services that we do deal up online. This is why we would really be that too skeptical into this aspect and always wanting or loving on dealing up with those places on which it doesnt have any verification or having that KYC. If it turned out that KYC is being applied into something like buying up some good or whatever that correlated into it then
it will really be something which is really that too much and there would really be always those ways or loopholes on which people will really be trying out to look into and will really be that using up.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 21, 2024, 07:31:10 AM

A determined gambler will always find a way to circumvent restrictions if they are obsessive enough. A casino or sportsbook can only do so much.

The hope is that the casino or sportsbook have the technology and knowledgable online staff to catch the vast majority of attempts to bypass their restrictions.

When it comes to verification, there’s not much they can do if their KYC process only requires a basic ID. It’s easy enough to get a legit ID, even if the person doesn’t actually own the account. And even with stricter processes, people can still find ways around it. Ultimately, it’s up to the gambler to bypass restrictions. The casino’s job is just to verify and approve based on the documents provided, it’s not foolproof, but that’s the system.

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Quote from: retreat on November 21, 2024, 04:33:56 AM

Quote from: taufik123 on November 20, 2024, 02:35:32 PM

Quote from: retreat on November 20, 2024, 01:03:40 PM

-snip-
Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee.

LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

-snip-

That is also a problem. Poor government governance of people's personal identities is something that needs to be considered, because often "criminals" use other people's personal data that they get from hacking government databases or data leak trading sites. This problem is morally detrimental to the people whose data is used because they don't know about the data and suddenly it is used either for crypto projects or registering on gambling sites.

That's right, I agree with your statement that even though we have protected our identity as best as possible, there are still other possibilities that could occur that could endanger our identity, such as leaks of public data in the government, and of course the ones who are to blame are those governments who are careless. in managing people's identity data, but for that problem I don't think there is anything we can do as a society apart from warning government officials to be more careful and more thorough in protecting people's identities in government, because it is not uncommon for such cases to occur which Many people feel at a loss when their data is misused by parties irresponsible people who ultimately cause a lot of problems in their lives.

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A determined gambler will always find a way to circumvent restrictions if they are obsessive enough. A casino or sportsbook can only do so much.

The hope is that the casino or sportsbook have the technology and knowledgable online staff to catch the vast majority of attempts to bypass their restrictions.

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There is no way to limit a gambler from continuing to access the casino because in this era of technological development, no matter how strong the casino is, in the end the gambler always has a way to be able to bet on a particular casino.
Now we are all here to give our respective opinions and for me I will give an example of a fiat online casino that always tries to block the IP and device of a gambler, they can still bet using their family member's account or their own friend's.
So the more technology develops, the casino will not be able to overcome this. Because out there there are so many very smart people.

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Quote from: taufik123 on November 20, 2024, 02:35:32 PM

Quote from: retreat on November 20, 2024, 01:03:40 PM

-snip-
Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee.

LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

-snip-

That is also a problem. Poor government governance of people's personal identities is something that needs to be considered, because often "criminals" use other people's personal data that they get from hacking government databases or data leak trading sites. This problem is morally detrimental to the people whose data is used because they don't know about the data and suddenly it is used either for crypto projects or registering on gambling sites.

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Quote from: tread93 on November 21, 2024, 12:05:25 AM

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.

Excessive addiction is difficult to cure and even if they are kicked out or humiliated it will not have any effect on them. Addiction in gambling does look abnormal because this kind of person will do anything to be involved in gambling, whether it is fraudulent or not. Even if the casino enforces strict rules, there are times when fraudsters will continue to find ways to do something to cheat. That happens because the level of intelligence of a person in cheating can be seen from how far they have mastered technology and now there are many people who have the quality to do it.

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The darknet is full of documents ready for sale. Packages of documents are sold for any needs and contain a lot of information. But besides this, some people are ready to provide their documents themselves for some temporary and small benefit. For me, this looks like "walking a tightrope," since once you show your identity online, you remain there forever, and the consequences for everyone can look extremely dangerous. Starting with loans taken out in someone else's name and ending with any crimes that may be of great interest to the police. There are many options here. Therefore, it is necessary not to scatter through verification every time you are asked, but to do it in extreme cases, each time protecting even the information provided.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

Well, casinos will not just block your account, but I do not see it your way, they might do that for genuine or ingenuine reasons, we've read many cases and some casinos have even resolved some of them by taking responsibility and apologising to the customer. This proves that they can indeed make errors or even be overbearing in their service, that's why we should be making them accountable at times. Also, we have too many unscrupulous customers who are bent to cheat casinos and the bonus purpose example you cited is one out of many. But still, if such customers use the documents of their friends for verification and later abandon the account, this still means nothing. Why is the account blocked if I may ask you from your point?

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Quote from: tread93 on November 21, 2024, 12:05:25 AM

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.

Yes, if they return to the same casino and avoids the ban that they got, that is just show you that you are addicted to gambling. You don't know how to stop yourself from playing gambling and the intention to have another account in that casino proves to you that you can not let yourself stay away from gambling for a while. Yes, they even use other people's identities to verify the account and take the bonus. But they forget that the casino can know easily because they have a system that can check all of their members and make sure that they don't let the abuser comes.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

I have read the article to which you provided through the link, and have got the massage it is passing across which is a delicate message that people should be fully awear to avoid being set up. Because from this strategy a person may put you in trouble by just using your identity for registration of any only stuff that requires kyc. And if such register ACC is found with an ilicite or fraudulent activities the owner of the kyc document will be held responsible with or without your knowledge because your documents has proven to be you. The best way to stay safe is to be careful with who we give our identity documents to avoid being impersonated .

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