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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Any casino firm that bans its users because of any suspicious act found on them should have in mind that the same banned user will find ways to register with them with any other identity to continue from where they stopped.

Nowadays, it is not easy to ban someone totally from what their interest are all the time, without having them back some other ways. They will borrow or pay for another person's identity, as the case may be so that they can beat the ban level against them. It's those whose identity will be used in that, is who will bear the cause of their action for letting their identity out for money or because of trust they have for the person.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

- It is true and correct what you say op, where the reputed casinos here in the crypto space do not just threaten their users if they do not see bad activity on their platform. Because they are also doing some kind of investigation.

Then do not forget that there are other casino platforms here in the crypto industry that are also exploitative, where when they see that their players are going to withdraw a large amount because of the size of the winnings, they suddenly lower the gambler's account without any resistance.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Of course the casinos can not just decided to ban it user without being faulted for violations.
It could be of cheats or the user not being able to completely process a given procedure after several warnings that the duration given as a grace has limitedly exhausted.
So the penalty has to be served either by ban or temporarily restricted.

I think some casinos permits the revalidation of users to creat another account with their credentials if their formal account was banned or restricted but may void the users profile to their sites depending on the highly offense committed.

But that apart, I agree with you to be careful with how we exposes our documents because it could be used for some sorts of events that might implicate us on something we are innocent of.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

We are talking about online gambling, right?

Casinos mostly ban users abusing bonus system since we don't have anything to do , like banned for misconduct and yeah they can simply borrow the identity of others for a certain price. Those can be stolen identity or simple people are ready to do that like for a price of 50 or 100 dollars which shows that they are unaware of privacy and identity theft.

Casinos should implement strict KYC rules to prevent this like live video verification from time to time but this only affect the casino because not everyone will be ready to verification once in a while.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

For online yes, there could be a way to bypass this restrictions, like what you have said, they can uses other person's identification and then go and play again. But this loophole can be a pros or cons for casino themselves.

They can uses it as a weapon for players, like if they suspect that something is not right with this KYC, then they can suspend the user itself. So it's up to the users to proved that he is the person that he is saying and in the documents itself. Or casinos are right about their hutch that this users are not telling the truth and that they just exploited that loophole that everyone knows.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

No one want to pass kyc with there own personal documents that's why many re try to use another person documents by browsing or bought from black market. there is no problem still a casino site thik it as subspecies.

What an antithetic situation! No one wants to pass KYC still there are those that are ready to sell their information and data for the use of others in their gambling in exchange for some bulks. I think people that sell out their information for strangers use do so out of proper ignorance of the underlying consequences the besiege such action.

However, it is not in every situation where casinos suspect some funny gambling behaviours of a gamblers leading to their ban that is truly a reflection of their suspicion. The implication of this act of ban carried out by casinos on users basically (out of suspicion) can lead to some users being wrongly accused and victimized.

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Casinosites generally do not require KYC, but in some cases KYC is required even though the information is confidential. If a gambler wants to withdraw a large amount of money, his affairs may be scrutinized, this will usually depend on the team management of the casino sites.
And there are many people who try to steal other people's accounts and if they want to withdraw money from that person's account then KYC may be needed because it is to verify that the right person is withdrawing the money properly. Generally, I think it is normal to do KYC verification when withdrawing large amounts of money from casino sites.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

I guess we are talking about various scammers here... I think it's easy to find a way around some bans, but is it worth the risk for something like that? So I guess the scammers do it to get some money out somehow, and if they ever get caught in the end and the casino confiscates the remaining money, maybe they are in profit and want to keep doing the same thing over and over again.

I don't think there is any way a casino can ban someone forever... it's too easy to change internet provider, use a VPN, borrow/buy someone's documents, change phone number, etc. But again the question arises why do it and go through all that?

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

yeah, there is a thousand ways to conceal you real identity nowadays, If I am not mistaken there is some thread here in the forum that discusses about why people sell their gambling accounts. Now I know maybe some people are getting banned or they just don't want to use their real identities to play on that site. I mean the are many of possibility here.

Casino has their own rule and some casino are strict and some are dont. If we read their TOS carefully I believe its going to be fine and there is no reason casino banned us.

Until recently, there were groups on Facebook where many people traded gambling accounts that had KYC, or they sold with a high level for a little money or it could be that they could no longer afford to gamble... Another reason may make sense where they want to gamble not using their real identity so they buy from others.

This practice still exists today... Although the casino applies many rules in it, there are still many loopholes that can be tricked by other gamblers, so it will not be surprising if other people's identities are used or sold for a little money.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

The answer to the question is a capital "NO", because though a casino can directly ban an individual from gambling, both online and physical, one thing certain herr is that they can never indirectly ban him/her from gambling, irrespective of whatever measures they take. So in such scenario, the best approach to resolving ban evasion is for a casino to implement the use of strong A.I which monitors all gambling activities and group those likely to have a similar consistent gambling pattern over time. As that's the only way to discover those who may have by passed a ban evasion to still gambling on the same casino while using other people's KYC details.

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Left for the casinos alone, they don't care about KYC but your money, since government regulations are involved, KYC becomes the only way for casinos to keep their gamblers identity incase government asks for it to avoid them being shutdown by the government if they don't comply. A gambler that knows KYC is mandatory will want to use others documents to bypass his way into gambling. However, it's not only in gambling that using someone's identity to gain access to somewhere happens but it happens in many scenarios. Someone very close to you might have access to your documents and use it for his KYC what would you do about that when you are not aware. At least people that sell their documents can understand when they shoot themselves on their own foot but what about those that are not aware of it.

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I wont stop saying, that gambler and especially addicted gambler (like alcoholics) are very creative people. They always find a way to either gamble or to find money for gambling, even though they are banned in casinos, in loans, have problems and so on. I believe that it is human nature. That if a person took a strong decision to do something, nothing will stop him. Using fake or someone else ID, vpn is only hip of the iceberg, as those bastards always find a way to play.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 20, 2024, 03:15:23 AM

If there’s a will, there’s a way....that’s the gambler’s mindset. But let’s not ignore the risks here. Using someone else’s identity puts the account owner in serious danger. What if the gambler uses the account for money laundering? The registered owner could end up in big trouble for breaking the law.

This method isn’t worth it, and anyone getting paid to do this should think long and hard. The risks are massive, and the small reward isn’t worth the chance of landing in jail.

I wonder why someone will sale their identity to someone else, whether it's for financial gains or as a help, it doesn't make any sense, they should first wonder why the receiver wouldn't use their own identities. Gambling platforms have been tagged by many, including governments as a means of money laundering, so people who sale or give their accounts to others needs to consider the magnitude of risks that they're putting themselves into. Anything that involves your KYC is your property in the eyes of the law, if any crime is committed with it, that means that you'll be held responsible.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason

Unfortunately, there are many casinos that have banned people without valid reasons and people spend many months complaining on forums and casino review sites so that their problems can be resolved. But it is useless and the owners of these scam casinos are never punished. Regarding this issue of KYC and some people taking the risk of buying or selling identities, honestly in my opinion it is something that is not worth it. Because when casinos see that the person has won a lot of money, they ask for additional documents such as a selfie holding the ID, so it is useless and it is not worth buying ID to do KYC at some casino.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

As you have already mentioned because it's very hard for a gambling site to have a thorough and a total control over the gamblers who are gambling in their site, what I can only say is that they should be more strict in checking some of the verifications and if possible they should implement a live video kyc to detects whether it's the real owner of the kyc that is in control of the gambling site. Then again, they should always check the kyc origin or residence and also detects the IP and if the IP doesn't correlate with the country of signup or login they should restrict such account for good.

Then about Identity management; To me it is very risky to keep selling one personal details or identification methods to other people because this is the most deadliest thing they are doing because if there are any money laundry that arises within the casino and through the identification someone that sold of his identity then they would have to track down the person who happens to sell of his documents to a stranger.

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Wait, if the casino already ban that gambler's account, it means he will not able to gamble in that casino again because he still live in the same place. Not many casinos allow multiple accounts usage, that's why having borrowed/purchased identity won't help.

It's more make sense if they gamble on another casino, there are so many casinos available.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

I don't think that there are other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good. The best a casino can do is to beef up their security to prevent hackers. Identitfy theft or even willingly giving up one's identity for a fee would always continue. The but is going to bear the consequences for this, it is not the casino but the accomplice. The people who do this are people with low income who need a little extra to survive they are the easiest victims of this. Someone who is in the middle class or at least isn't living in poverty won't risk it because their level of need has gone past above food, clothing, or shelter.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

If they can able to provide KYC to reputable casino then continue if they want to gamble since with this this will never give them any issues.

But if they can't afford to do KYC then just leave it since there's nothing gonna happen and they cannot change what current implementation has been done. But in the case that they are been restricted in the casino due to some regulation happened maybe best for anyone to follow what has been implemented by the casino since bypassing or doing any forms of cheating may result to something that they don't want to encounter. So gamble with clean hands and don't cheat anything just to continue or try to take advantage on something.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

This is why we should be careful of where we pass our personal information to nowhere we do kyc verification.. we should remember that ones your data gets online, it is there and cannot be removed.. it's obvious that these people are buying peoples kyc information from the dark web and using it to sign up on casino. I can't imagine what would happen if they end up committing a big crime on that accounts and creating a problem for the real owners of the data they had used to pass through kyc. We should just avoid passing kyc unnecessarily so it don't end up getting into the wrong hands..

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Well, I believe it would be easy to catch out, knowing that it could easily be a standout and that there's a reason the people are banned. It's just how people are, and they find ways to make it work if they are forbidden.

It's complex, and maybe more behavioral tactics are needed to see the possibility of catching them again.

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