Topic: Restricted gamblers found a way.... - page 7. (Read 2726 times)

It seems to me that in physical casinos it is absolutely impossible to get into the casino using someone else's documents, because the people at the entrance are not fools and they understand perfectly well who is in the photo and who is in front of them.
As for online casinos, I want to say that everything is not so simple. Casinos have learned to figure out perfectly what country a person using a VPN is actually from. I don't know how it works, but they really do have such a tool, and I have seen it several times. Therefore, if a casino does not want to let someone onto its site, they will ban the VPN, and the player will not be able to do anything.

Sh*ts happen all around now and what you think is legit may not be legit but the casinos will not know, this is one of the issues with the internet, you cannot ascertain the person behind the screen but assume them for what they claim they are. As for the casinos, they are exonerated by law because they are not privy to that act which is the main reason why they offer the KYC, it is not for them to actually inconvenience anyone but to obey the law of their jurisdiction. And this is why I'm not too fond of the idea of people buying verified accounts online, who knows the evil they've perpetrated to open the account and get it verified?

When someone are in need in money, they will not care about how if they breaks the law and will still try to get the chance. They already desperate with the situation that they have so they will not think twice to let that chance go away.

All things can be done by gamblers who want to keep playing gambling in that casino including search for other people document and verify using that way. They can ask that people to use the account and verify it so that gambler can use it to play gambling.

Don't let the free world destroy our lives and even though money is a very powerful force that can influence people, we must have control so that unwanted things don't happen. Addiction can cause problems for anyone, especially if we are unable to control ourselves to spend money on gambling, while other people have much better control and they will try to spend money according to their ability. If we realize that Casinos do not limit someone from getting involved in gambling, then we ourselves should be able to control it, otherwise we will be faced with problems in managing the financial management that will be spent on gambling.

Illiteracy and ignorance are big diseases that can make someone do this because they are not aware of the consequences. All that matters to them is what they see in front of them.

The gambler or the person making use of the document might not explain in detail the truth of what might happen if it's being used for illegal activities. I know of a story not related to this one, but the person was penalised for what he knew nothing about, but illetracy allowed him to be accused wrongly, and he admitted to what he didn't know.

There's always those pros and cons when it comes to KYC but com in mind on why crypto gambling had become that popular just because of having that anonymity feature on which we have been that preferring into this one, until the time that these platforms or companies are starting up to ask verifications before you could be able to make withdrawal which kinda sucks. One of the main things that comes up into our minds on the moment that KYC is really that being asked is having into those possible leaked informations on which this is really something that we do mainly not that liking, thats why as much as possible we would really be trying out to deal up into things on which we know that we do really that able to prefer and trying out avoid on which we dont really like after all.

You know what, many people and not only gamblers do not like KYC because they are afraid that the company will reveal their documents/information to third party for attack. And it is possible. And they believed in personal privacy. And that is why they used decentralized system of interaction and transaction. Since those casinos are centralized which has license with the government, and if the government find out that the gambler has an account with casino, then they can force the company to reveal the identity of the person. In everything there is an advantage and disadvantage. KYC is good and KYC in the the crypto market is bad. Mostly I don't like KYC in exchange but it is the easiest way to sell.

This is why it's important for gamblers to use KYC on their accounts to secure them properly. Cyber scammers and account sellers are constantly looking for vulnerable accounts to hack and exploit for their own profit.

Just like someone said in this trade, whenever any illegal activity is detected on your account, you will be the one in trouble, not them. Therefore, we need to be extremely cautious when sharing our personal information with others, wherever we go, and how we handle our wallets.

Most importantly, when we are gambling, we should not get carried away by the excitement that comes with it, to the point where we are not mindful of how we handle our personal documents. This could allow someone else to access your IDs   and use them for illegal activities.

Because, indeed, banned gamblers will always look for ways to circumvent the system. That's just it. So, you need to take proactive measures from your end to protect your account and avoid being vulnerable to these account sellers and scammers.

it's a free world
in a free world you should have the possibility to spend all your money, get addicted to things and ruin your family
now, is it the free world we want?
I'm not so sure

but money is a really strong force after all

Casinos will certainly not limit gamblers from getting involved in it because it is not in line with the business development they are trying to do on the platform. A person can only stop gambling when there is an intention to stop, the rest is no more reasonable way. Casinos also never force us to get involved in gambling and instead we ourselves come and try to bet on their site. If people think about money completely when involved in gambling then they will be very difficult to stop and generally addicted gamblers think they can make money consistently in betting but what happens is the opposite.

I know who the house is and that the house always wins and all
what I'm asking is how we normal everyday folks can open an online casino and become the house ourselves
is it possible?
how much upfront capital would we need?
do we need to get VCs and formal investment?
do you think there's still space for growth in this market?

If it's only a basic information then actually it is only easy to hide it but since they are only basic a lot of people won't bother too much about them. There are still platforms that can only care less or has less security, so one mistake might still not enough for us to get caught out but we need to be careful next time if we are only doing this because of privacy concerns and not because we are a criminal that is planning to do a crime. Indeed that basically VPN's are manual but if we have a talent on coding it might be possible for us to automate it. If we don't have a talent but we have a budget we can as well hire some coders to do it for us.

As for those unattended devices and then someone uses them there are still passwords that can protect our devices and not all who use our devices has a good technical knowledge to mess up with our thing. Difference in language is only normal in VPN. It happens because we are like changing our locations in order to bypass a restriction or simply hide ourselves from someone or something.

Besides, there is still a translation that we can use if we don't understand the language that is written in our screens. Some VPN's allows us to choose a country and we can actually select our country and still gain access to local sites like government agencies as you said there for example if our goal is only to change our current IP addresses. Some VPN's can also be used to have a free internet access, so it is actually possible to use them 24/7.

They can’t claim they’re unaware of the risks as "ignorance of the law excuses no one". You simply can’t hand over your documents to someone under your account if you’re not the one using it, no matter how tempting the reward might seem. That’s a hard pass for anyone who values their safety and accountability.

Hopefully, desperation for quick cash doesn’t cloud their judgment. The benefits might look good at first, but the risks are far too great to ignore. It’s always better to stay cautious especially that gambling platforms are also reported to be use for money laundering. It's hard to be implicated in illegal activities you don't do.

Unless the casino requests further information about the gambler in the future, if not the type of information they ask for for verification, it is what anyone who wants to bypass them can easily buy from anyone unless there is a part of verification where they will ask for facial verification, which can't be manipulated (but I don't know how enhanced AIs are now); if not, that's the only form of verification.
 
I know that most platforms are used to catch identity theft, but if such occurs and the gambler got the ID document from someone close, they can always ask them to help verify that; it depends on the situation, but even so, it's still a very risky process, as the gambler can end up losing everything if they are caught.

In addition to what you have said. Recently we came to see that many banned or restricted gamblers bought already made level up accounts in a casino and we have seen many selling in the forum. Recently I saw one casino account seller in the service board. And because of this thread I went to look for the thread so can make some reference from it but it seen that the thread was deleted. And those accounts they are selling normal gambler will not buy them but those gamblers that have been banned and they want to go back to the casino site to continue their malicious behaviors.

It's always the documents owner who will be held responsible since it's his/her own documents and the other party is only using it so there's nothing that the owner can do about being blame or forced to be responsible of something. That's one of the reason why people should always keep their privacy secured seriously. Well, casinos may find another way to determine if it's really you that is using the account although I am not sure on how they will do that.

It lies now on the casino how good they are to detect the authenticity of the submitted kyc docs. Because one way not to escape from the ban is really thru submission of kyc docs, especially if the casino is a licensed one. We don't know what kind of technology they are using to determine the acceptability of your docs. But in case you will use somebody else's credentials, you are putting yourself at risk as the site can ask further details of your credentials. This is what you need to prepare in case you will use fake credentials, and if you have significant amount deposited, then the likelihood to freeze or suspend your account is quite high.

Sometimes they don't just buy the documents from those who steal them to sell; some times they meet the real owners of the document to sell it to them, and they will state the main purpose of why they are using it.

One good reason that some people can do this is either they might have cheated one casino before, which made the casino ban them from playing on their platform, or they are not eligible to play due to the age limit, or the country or residence is not permitted to play in that casino. Whichever is the case, such an action will always have a repercussion, and the owner of the document for anything serious being done with it will be held responsible.

I see it that even though things in the gambling section or forum changes and evolves, there'll be more and applicable methods for every gambling individual to acknowledge revenues for the initial period of time.Restricted gamblers are often the addicted one and they're normally not afraid to try out any new speculations and updates.

It's only a matter of time until that group gets busted. With all of the processes that they are trying to defy the laws and if they can borrow others identity for a fee. When someone has done wrong and he's using other's people identity on that circle, they are going to be worried for sure on how it will be. If these casinos try to get into some union and try to get their records have a database as a whole just like the banks has, then for sure these people will have a huge problem if they keep on doing that. But as of now, they don't do that and I do not see them doing that then in the nearer future.