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legendary
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November 20, 2024, 02:12:24 PM
#71
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
The question you asked is really hard to answer without first thinking deeply about it, or trying to get ideas from other commenters..
But all the same, I guess the only way to permanently ban a gambler is to keep banning his or her account until he or she runs out of options to create new one..
The issue with borrowing other people's identity card to verify their account is one with a very simple solution, and the solution here is the introduction of live verification where the user will hold up that camera to his or her face, and the system will verify that the face matches the one on the submitted id card, if it doesn't, then it simply means that the gambler is trying to game the casino kyc system and such gambler can be banned immediately.

With the above, the issue of creating another account after a ban may be completely limited or eradicated because the gambler will no longer be able to use other people's identity to verify the account.

This is my thought.
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November 20, 2024, 02:02:10 PM
#70
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
Actually most people does that to their friends and family and not not to everyone, because I don't see a possibility for someone to do such thing to somebody who you dong know, or you can't just see somebody for the first time and ask for his id for kyc. Most people who gave out there doceument never know the purpose of why it is collected. If they know they will not give. But my advice in regards to this statement, is that we should be careful when people ask us concerning our sensitive document or any important information relating to us, for security reasons because no body know the plan of the next person.

Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
You sound as if you are working with gambling site to find a permanent way of blocking sturbon customer who find way to bypass the ban and continue, lolz anyway I don't know you can  check the next comentor.
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November 20, 2024, 01:03:40 PM
#69
Nowadays, it is not that difficult for people to use other people's identities to do KYC. Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee. But there is nothing we can do about this, because no matter what, these people will continue to use other people's identities just to create new accounts on the casino platform. As long as they have access to new identities for their accounts, they will continue to do so. And I don't think all casinos have the same strict system regarding identity verification, so this loophole will continue to exist.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 12:30:55 PM
#68
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All this will make it increasingly difficult to pass KYC on various platforms. Of course, this will have a negative impact on ordinary users who register using their own documents. Attackers will always find a way to bypass KYC. I don't know if it is possible to pass KYC with video identity verification using dipfake, but it seems to me that it can be done for a lot of money if desired. What it boils down to is that abuse leads to increased security. In my opinion it's a race that will never end.
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November 20, 2024, 12:20:07 PM
#67

Right, they can find ways, anyone can find a way. If I am to find a way I will use my brother or sister's ID. I can easily submit other docs if the casinos request more.

Casinos can let them play until they deposit more funds inside their accounts before busting them. Freeze the funds so that they will not do it again. but then of course this is not the right thing to do. I think I read somewhere this had happened to someone too bad for him he used someone else account but the casino allowed him to withdraw the funds.

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November 20, 2024, 10:55:32 AM
#66
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
A gambler is a gambler and unlike any other addiction, an addicted gambler will always find a way to gamble, even if it requires them to borrow or steal an identity, just to play that sure odds they have or envision would be their big break.
Ignorance sometimes does more harm and causes more pain than knowing the right thing to do and simply just avoiding to do so. Thus, it is better for banned gamblers to find another platform rather than use a wrong or misleading identity on same site they were banned.
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November 20, 2024, 10:39:14 AM
#65
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
Usually, casinos don't ban people without a reason but there are many cases when they ban people to not pay them their winning but when this is the case, no one tries to register for the second time.

Btw that's very common when gambler asks you to register an account with your ID and then they use it to play because their old account got blocked. Of course that's expected from an addict or unfair gambler but the sad part of this is that too many people don't care about their identity. I know lots of people around me who registered an account for their addicted gambler friend and then they had a problem getting employed in public service because of having an account in a casino.
I also know many people who were uploading pictures of their verification documents to get $25 airdrop from Blockchain.com

Today casinos are advanced enough to identify those who were once blocked. Many addicts get blocked because they use offensive words in public chats and very frequently they use offensive words against live casino dealers. They can't change their habit and end up banning with a different account. Some make mistakes and log in via the same IP or the VPN. I'd say that casinos fight very well against abusers.
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November 20, 2024, 09:52:38 AM
#64
~ Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

As a matter of fact vpn may not help  should casino has the sophisticated software with capability to gather the  digital fingerprint of the machines used by the banned customers. In this case to procceed gambling  those users would have to change their devices which might be too costly for them. Should this happened with me I would probably just leave that casino luckily there are many places around to gamble.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 09:45:35 AM
#63
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
To combat this method of using "fake" identities, the casino can use the requirement for video identification. That is, a ban on withdrawing a deposit without completing this procedure. Although I am an opponent of KYC, I can't imagine any other ways to combat fake "identities".

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.
It is unlikely that "your identity" will be used in completely criminal schemes and in the case of a casino, a surprise may be a sudden ban of your identity on playing in a specific casino. Or on all of them? Because of a joint blacklist.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
There is more than one casino in the world, right? So if a gambler is not blacklisted forever, what are the problems with moving to another casino?

And gamblers don't necessarily have to steal "other people's identities" and use them in dubious schemes in casinos, because gamblers can use the accounts of friends or relatives.

I expect that in the future, one of the effective ways to ban any gambler will appear. This will be achievable only with the progress of technology, namely, with the total tokenization and digitalization of everything and everyone. With the introduction of the CBDC and the linking of specific wallets and biometrics, it will be impossible to outwit a casino with a fake identity. Transparent blockchain and AI will allow casino to immediately notice the catch.
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November 20, 2024, 09:40:29 AM
#62

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

The casinos are limited to banning IP devices and the information provided by the player because this is an online tracking system; they have no way to track players who pay people to verify or sell their account or use both IP and device. They take action based on the provided information.
But if the player continues to cheat, the casino can ban him again. Casinos are good at catching cheaters because they know there are players who cheat the system to have an advantage over the house.
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November 20, 2024, 09:32:21 AM
#61
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
It should be obvious that if someone were to make us an offer like that, we must reject it, after all if what that person was doing was legal and they were simply a good gambler, then they could gamble at any of the thousands of casinos that exist and be done with it, if they need another identity to keep doing what they are doing, then it should be clear they are doing something illegal, and when they eventually get caught, it will be you the one to pay the consequences.
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November 20, 2024, 09:30:15 AM
#60


There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Does this pattern not follow the same logic as them getting an account that has been verified already? Or purchasing documents to verify account? The reason I asked this is because I have seen several newbie accounts come to the forum and create thread about them having some verified account in some well known casinos so I was thinking if that’s the reason those accounts are being sold? I know a genuine person won’t just go to a site register an account submit his personal documents and then come to a forum and start selling it without being cautious of who is going to buy the account.

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November 20, 2024, 09:29:14 AM
#59
They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
Some persons get blind by rewards and profit but they don't look at the risk of what they are about to do. If casino bands their customer for a valid reason, then the person should try a different casino.

Sadly, casino can detect whether specific is banned from other casino when they submit KYC they are same game provider with all their games. Game provider usually the one who flagged user when they are using multiple account from different casino while the account connected has a violation.

You can’t experience a hassle free gambling life if your identity was already tagged as problematic gambler because you will experience the same on other casino once they are detected the connection.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 09:19:12 AM
#58
~snip~

I'm sure that most copies of documents end up on the black market not through the fault or stupidity of their owner, but because many public and private companies that deal with personal information employ people who don't care about other people's privacy, they just want money. That's why they sell user document databases at the first opportunity. I have noticed that in the last few years the number of cases of illegal use of other people's documents has increased significantly. I think these numbers will be even higher in the future.
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November 20, 2024, 09:13:09 AM
#57
If your friends ask your document to verify their account on the casino, you should not give it to them because that is break the casino rules. They can blacklist your document and when you want to playing gambling on the same casino, the casino will not allow you and will detect you have multiple account. You need to protect your document and not giving that to other people because they can abuse your document easily.

Those gamblers can be restricted by the casino by ban or block their access to that casino. Even if they use VPN, casino will know and do something to them. If they use your document to pass the KYC and the casino know about that, you can get limitation from the casino and the worst thing is casino can ban you from their casino.
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November 20, 2024, 09:09:57 AM
#56
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

Casino has their own way to detect VPN when use by players. I think the change of IP can be easily dodge through changing an ISP provider and other tweak which the casino can’t detect.

It’s impossible for an online casino to totally ban a user since there’s no way to physically verified whether a user can borrow someone identity or not. There’s a lot of people living in 3rd world country that is willing to sell their identity for money.

The responsible gambling clause is the only self defense mechanism of casino if ever an addicted user keep dodging the restrictions.
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November 20, 2024, 09:06:13 AM
#55
I have seen for myself that an addicted gambler will do anything to continue gambling. Anyway the nowadays people are more addicted to online gambling so you cannot stop the urge even if you want to. Unless gamblers face gambling directly and according to their true identity. In that case they will use the identity of others and may even use the identity of their own family. Even this is impossible to implement in online casinos because there are situations where faces are visible. So it is possible to identify fraudulent gamblers by making accounts visible by identity.
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November 20, 2024, 09:01:01 AM
#54
If there’s a will, there’s a way....that’s the gambler’s mindset. But let’s not ignore the risks here. Using someone else’s identity puts the account owner in serious danger. What if the gambler uses the account for money laundering? The registered owner could end up in big trouble for breaking the law.

This method isn’t worth it, and anyone getting paid to do this should think long and hard. The risks are massive, and the small reward isn’t worth the chance of landing in jail.
I wonder why someone will sale their identity to someone else, whether it's for financial gains or as a help, it doesn't make any sense, they should first wonder why the receiver wouldn't use their own identities. Gambling platforms have been tagged by many, including governments as a means of money laundering, so people who sale or give their accounts to others needs to consider the magnitude of risks that they're putting themselves into. Anything that involves your KYC is your property in the eyes of the law, if any crime is committed with it, that means that you'll be held responsible.
If people aren’t fully aware of the risks and they’re getting paid to do it, some might be tempted to sell their identity just to create online gambling accounts. This could be especially true in countries where the poverty rate is high. For $100 to $200, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone agrees to sell their documents for account verification.
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November 20, 2024, 08:57:05 AM
#53
There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.
No one want to pass kyc with there own personal documents that's why many re try to use another person documents by browsing or bought from black market. there is no problem still a casino site thik it as subspecies. They run into trouble when a casino site wants to freeze funds and verify documents when someone keeps depositing and withdrawing huge amounts of money. If the documents cannot be fully verified then they are restricted

Imagine the pure amount of black market KYC documents... Every single person who gave their documents to an ICO is going to have to worry about identity theft for the rest of their lives...

Getting banned from casinos is the least damaging thing they can do with someone else's KYC.
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November 20, 2024, 08:51:57 AM
#52
In fact, there will always be a way to get around the exception, especially if a gambler is addicted, which usually doesn't care, they will do anything just to be able to realize their desires and habits to gamble, you said the right thing OP that now IP exceptions can be very easy to get around and I have also done it where one of the casinos excluded me with an IP scenario but when I tried to use a VPN I could freely enter and register, but of course I don't think I would ever want to lend or give my identity to anyone else including some of my friends even if they gave me some money, it's too dangerous and the impact can be very serious, it is not uncommon for cases of identity abuse to trigger many problems.
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