(Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner - page 6.

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and they lose sales to the USA

Since they are effectively now at :

31th 850 x 1.276 + 91= 1175 too much to pay I paid 875 10 days ago so it is a 34% jump in price
33th 1020 x 1.276 + 91 = too much to pay

daily hash rate jumped real hard last 2 days
42,000,000,000 gh to 48,000,000,000
so that make the gear worth 5 to 10% less then the 799 it was listed for not 34% more.

based on this new jump the 875 I paid including the shipping for the 31th unit should now be 800 to 830
not 1175

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on February 07, 2019, 01:44:08 PM

T15 is best the best option under de minimis right now. At least on the m10 31T the tariff is "marginal" compared to other units. Looks like about 1.2k with duties/shipping is about right.

ja. As I said yesterday in Kano's Discord room, my take is that Pangolin took notice of the M10 31T's outselling the 33T's and correctly realized that for us in the US, the reason we loved the 31T was no Tariff (assuming you get/receive them 1 per-day or less often). The 33T is over de minimis and sales took a hit from it. Putting them both over de minimis removes that difference.

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T15 is best the best option under de minimis right now. At least on the m10 31T the tariff is "marginal" compared to other units. Looks like about 1.2k with duties/shipping is about right.

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I was going to order another one to add to collection but now with it being 850.. i'll get hit with tax. Like seriously. Over $50 this screws it.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 02, 2019, 05:20:20 PM

it is terrible for usa

799 1 item 0% tax
850 1 item 27.6% tax

For me it doesn't change much. Just the added price. I have to pay PST + GST on everything I receive so 13%, if I had a registered business it would only be GST at 5%. It also varies by province, Alberta for instance only has the GST. Usually only gets worse when CAD takes a dip, makes me long for that shortlived time at Par.

Quote from: fccs on February 03, 2019, 06:43:22 PM

The funny thing is that the 31th model for the $750 does 33th for me usually 24/7, sometimes falls into a 32.8th range but still. Lol so... yea

Nice, I had some Avalon gear that showed up and was well over spec. I love winning the hardware lottery. After the last reset and increase to normal mode - I am getting 30.8 and 31.7 TH/s from my units.

I was kicking around the idea of ordering another 1 maybe 2, but haven't decided on pulling the trigger yet. The price increase hasn't helped the decision either.

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No argument there, about $2.2k for two w/duties. $51/th for the added 43th for about the same draw.

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on February 04, 2019, 11:00:12 AM

Yea, sad to see the demand hit a cliff for these. T15 in LPM is the best purchase now imo. So I agree with philip, per usual.

Only bulk will bring the cost of these down substantially enough to make tariffs worth it.

Yeah it is tough for me. I did the build out with a mix of gear.

530th btc
7mh ltc

1 s15 top speed 57 watts a th
19 s9's set these at mid speed90 watts a th
6 m10's set these at top speed 70 watts a th
1 t2turbo24 eco speed 82 watts a th
1 a921 -1 speed 95 watts a th
2 a721 -1 speed 140 watts a th so this is 2000 watts
4 s7ln reg speed 250 watts a th this is 2800 watts
14 L3+ these are on a low watt program

so replacement of the bold gear will happen and 2 m10's would do the trick

some power but th would go from 20th to 63th

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Yea, sad to see the demand hit a cliff for these. T15 in LPM is the best purchase now imo. So I agree with philip, per usual.

Only bulk will bring the cost of these down substantially enough to make tariffs worth it.

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Quote from: fccs on February 03, 2019, 06:43:22 PM

The funny thing is that the 31th model for the $750 does 33th for me usually 24/7, sometimes falls into a 32.8th range but still. Lol so... yea

They should have left the m10 31th at 799 and killed the coupon it would have kept USA buyer under 800 and no trump tax.

The 33th should be dropped to 949 with a 25 dollar coupon. Or 924.

USA buyers would get the 31th model.

Now

the s15 is a tax job 27.6% for USA
The m10 is a tax job 27.6% for USA
The t15 is no tax and may be the best deal. 0% since it is under 800.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on February 02, 2019, 05:13:37 PM

My guess for the price jump is that they weren't moving any of the 33 TH models.

I know i wasn't about to pay 125$ per TH, for the extra 2.

I'd say still a good deal, just not as good.

The funny thing is that the 31th model for the $750 does 33th for me usually 24/7, sometimes falls into a 32.8th range but still. Lol so... yea

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Quote from: Steamtyme on February 02, 2019, 05:13:37 PM

My guess for the price jump is that they weren't moving any of the 33 TH models.

I know i wasn't about to pay 125$ per TH, for the extra 2.

I'd say still a good deal, just not as good.

it is terrible for usa

799 1 item 0% tax

850 1 item 27.6% tax

I am glad I got mine when I did.

850 x 1.276 = 1084 vs 799

that is fucked up

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My guess for the price jump is that they weren't moving any of the 33 TH models.

I know i wasn't about to pay 125$ per TH, for the extra 2.

I'd say still a good deal, just not as good.

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Correct.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/de-minimis-value-increases-800

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on February 02, 2019, 12:10:39 PM

Odd price increase by pangolin. Well done on those who ordered prior.

Even with coupon this is over de minimis, wonder if pango got greedy with the influx of added sales.

Is de minimus $799.00 USD?

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Odd price increase by pangolin. Well done on those who ordered prior.

Even with coupon this is over de minimis, wonder if pango got greedy with the influx of added sales.

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Nice to see your units arrived Phil.

It's weird I have reached out to Pangolin a few times, and so far nothing in the way of answers or troubleshooting.

Either way between the 2 units I am on spec. I really can't complain to much. The nice thing is while I was gone there were to power outages in my area, both times the units fired back up when the power was restored.

Agreed minefarmbuy, that's what my conclusion was when I ordered these.

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Awesome, m10 is probably the best upgrade $/th for units shipping now factoring de minimus. We've had decent success with throttling shipments out for clients without too much back end work. Also looks like the trade war might be looking to close up in a few months.

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on January 26, 2019, 12:39:15 PM

Did they contact you for duties was the hold up? 4 days isn't the worst, anything we have to prep for customs the paperwork is filed asap for smoother sailing.

If you're getting hit with duties on shipments under $800 I would pay them and file the correct paperwork later to recoup the funds.

So far I order 1 at a time and things are good.

We now have six at the new solar array.

2x 34th m10
4x 31th m10

My one complaint is I don't know how to upgrade firmware on the 2x 34th models so they only have 1 speed

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Did they contact you for duties was the hold up? 4 days isn't the worst, anything we have to prep for customs the paperwork is filed asap for smoother sailing.

If you're getting hit with duties on shipments under $800 I would pay them and file the correct paperwork later to recoup the funds.

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on January 25, 2019, 12:16:29 PM

Weird. DHL has always delivered my personal stuff without issues. Wonder if the tariffs are reducing imports and they've scaled back on labor?

So it is working as I type.

Just a 1 day delay it arrived 40 minutes ago. We had a monster rainstorm maybe that is why.

see below it did a side trip to Miami and it really got stuck in NYC Grin

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