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No one had been forced to play in the start.It is still on someones hands if he decided to play or not because you are doing it on your own will and you havent been harassed nor convinced that hard to play in the site or making it compulsory to make out deposits.If you do then its up to your own decision and the casino would have no responsibility towards that action.They do all kinds of marketing that they could do because they do
target on making profits no matter which way they would really be doing.Deceiving? i kinda believe on that part but somewhat this isnt something illegal though unless if the said casino is totally unfair.
As an audience or viewer then its up still into your own full control or jurisdiction on what things would be on next for you to make.

Are those youtuber or advertisers do told you that those money are fake or virtually nothing? I wont really believing such word if someone would really make out those kind of claims or
revelations and also its part of marketing strategy if influencers do make out advertisement about roobet and not only limited to it but on other casinos as well yet its part of
marketing we as all know.

You are trying to elaborate here that they've been doing shady stuff. How can you prove it out?

Legal or not, it depends on each country because we know that every country has its own rules regarding gambling
If you talk about streamer, yes there are negative effects they can motivate people to continue gambling, however every gambling site warns that players must be 18+ meaning they know the risks.

How do you think this "helps" streamers? Yes, this clickbaity content will get more views to the Roobet partners -- But at what cost? That's a loss for those streamers who want to keep things real, and who don't want to promote their channels with fake bets.

Also, this establishes a vicious loop; Since there are so many streamers making fake bets, the only way to stand out will be to do even bigger fake bets. We already saw this with one of Roobet's partners, m0e_tv. At first, he was making fake bets of just a few thousand per video, which quickly escalated -- Soon, he was making videos of literally winning/losing hundreds of thousands in a single video, even though it was 100% non-withdrawable house-money. After I pointed this out, Moe removed the relevant videos from his channel.

It's absolutely clear that Roobet is intentionally deceiving people. Otherwise, they wouldn't do any fake bets. Can you think of any legitimate reasons as to why they allow fake bets in the first place?

"there is nothing wrong since it's still money at the end of the day which is all that matters."
I don't get this argument. As I mentioned, in some cases the streamers are risking literally zero money, even though they claim otherwise.
It's absolutely mind-blowing that some people find this acceptable. Roobet and the streamers are literally lying to their audience, and they're preying on naive people who genuinely believe that gambling can be a quick way to make money, just like their favorite streamers.


This one is another topic, but what makes it more disgusting is the fact that Roobet is heavily targeting channels where the audience consists of children primarily. Sponsoring Jake Paul and Ricegum, for example, is quite questionable in my opinion.

I don't think Roobet is trying to deceive anyone by helping streamers out in this manner. Many popular sites(Fiat and Crypto) do this and there is nothing wrong since it's still money at the end of the day which is all that matters.

This is a smart way to tempt gamblers to be honest. Roobet and the streamers profit together while the audience needs to their research before investing.

The fact of the matter is this:
- Many of the streamers do not disclose this, and those who do, they usually explain it in very confusing & unclear terms.
- A lot of people are being deceived by this; They believe that they are gambling with real money.

There's absolutely no need for Roobet to promote fake bets like this. It would be totally possible for them to keep things real, and only allow their advertisers to bet with real money. Entertaining content and keeping things real are not mutually exclusive.

Roobet made a decision -- They willingly chose the path of greediness, and they're intentionally producing highly deceptive ads.

My opinion on this streamer issue is: "every streamer is honest before they get the casino deal."
I'm skeptical if there is a popular streamer who plays with his own money without involving deals. It's not something like renting a signature when promotors get paid, no matter if he plays or not. It's the way the slots streaming industry is, and viewers like the show.

Is it ethical or misleading? It's as ethical as sugar-free soda commercials, trading for profits, etc.

The question should be: "is it illegal?" If it is illegal, Twitch must/will take action about it. Until then, it's wild west there.

I think still depends on the preferences because we all know if we are talking about Username it's just a digital name or an image name only even we put the real name and people got curious about you I think they will neglect you at the same time, we just curious in a thing but if we know the answer we ignore afterward. Wel l, it's safer to get anonymous than spreading your whole name on the list of recent wages. Just curious if a billionaire plays in roobet too?

There are top known gamblers streaming and playing in roobet just wonder because physical casino is close yet today.

If the streamer honest and admitted where the money came from, there is no really big deal at all for the viewer. I also watching a few youtuber, yes they are using sponsor money but I still watching because respected them admitted at the beginning of the video where the money came.

We as the viewer, watching them not because of the winners but also have a few reasons like :
- Entertainment & want to see his some shit reaction ~XD
- Know the game streamer/YouTuber play while the balance on real balance even the money was coming from sponsor, because sometimes while tested the game on demo and real mode just have some different taste and feels not the same.

Then, when the streamer/YouTuber already admitted the money came from the sponsor before the gambling video happen whats the problem anymore? the viewer already know that. I talk like this because feels that your post pointed to all streamers / YouTubers even some of them already honest to their viewer about the money came and always reminder about gambling responsibility 18+, even I know the post you are made only for moe because of your problem with him.

There's nothing wrong with gambling with money that was given by the sponsor, as long as they are actually risking it. If a streamer bets $100 and they truly risk $100, that's fine. But if they pretend to bet $100 while they only risk $50, $5, or even $0, that is simply misleading and fraudulent.

You are right, I and CSGOEmpire are also guilty of participating in similar deceptive marketing years ago, I admit that.

It all depends on the YouTuber/streamer itself, example like one of my youtube like Drew or Juicy both of them while making the video will speak up or make some warning about :
- Where the money came sponsor or not
- Make some warning about gambling and responsibility for your own self.
Everyone knows around 80% the money was coming from sponsor.

You also CSGOEmpire, If I not wrong also hired YouTuber/stremer to give them balance as sponsor money as well did other people comment on their reaction for your video and everyone watch for entertainment did you want us as the viewer see them without reaction?. And yeah, the problem between you and moe better to talk by only both of you "Roobet" don't really have any connection between your problem.

Several sponsored advertisers have admitted it, and it seems to be a well-established fact by now. (Happy to provide hard evidence if you wish)

They try to be very discreet about it, and they communicate it with very unclear terms.

To make an example, they could have a deal like the following:
Roobet agrees to pay streamer X $100,000 for promotion. They will give a $5000 starting balance to X, and they will tell him to keep gambling until they reach $100,000. If X loses, they will keep giving him refills until he reaches $100,000.

In the meantime, streamer X will tell his viewers: "This is totally real! Whatever I win, I will get to keep it!" -- Practically, they're telling the truth, but it's highly deceptive. In this hypothetical setup, the streamer X is actually not risking a penny of their own money, and all of their 'reactions' would be faked.

The above is merely an example -- By the looks of it, they've been doing several variations of those confusing deals. Sometimes the streamers may have a little bit of risk involved, but they are still massively exaggerating the bet amounts and their reactions. The bottom line is that Roobet is collaborating with these streamers to deceive the viewers into believing that they're betting more than they really are. They pretend to be transparent about it, but their communication is full of half-truths and intentional abstraction.

There's been a lot of heat about this on Twitter recently (https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1369997063447052293), but Roobet is still intentionally ignoring it.

Good suggestion from mu_enrico so I think roobet need to consider about it. Aside from that drawing, is there any specific place to see how many tickets are collected by all players? Also about the ticket, do players get unique ticket numbers for every ticket they earn? It would be nice combination when players get their unique ticket numbers + live drawing as they will watch the live draw while looking at their ticket's number list.

You mean 250k Christmas giveaway? If I am right, it would be good to consider that the video doesn’t have to disappear afterwards. Because, yes, it was spectacular and cool, but soon the video disappeared. https://www.twitch.tv/Duelbits/videos

How did you know the money was not real?

I've reached out to the Roobet owners through mutual contacts, but they're ignoring me and refusing to address this topic:

Roobet, can you chime some light on the topic of fake bets? You've recruited lots of Youtubers and streamers to gamble with fake money. In essence, they're creating misleading content where they pretend to be winning big amounts, while in reality, they are risking virtually nothing.

In my opinion, this is completely fraudulent and misleading.
Could you comment on this?

We cannot call it a bad idea nor good yet since we don't see some result nor real sports bookie bettors demand it here so maybe as suggested roobet team should conduct a proper study to see the demand also if this addition really helpful to the platform since there are times that casino games should be separated to sportsbook to avoid some possible errors. I also love to see the sportsbook added since I also love to bet on soccer and basketball.

I do not disagree that adding sportsbook would be a bad idea, but it is not as simple as "more games = more players = more profit" because there are things that we have to consider as costs for making something like that as well. For example, adding sportsbook is a big deal for developers, even if it is provided by some other third party it still requires it to be modified enough to be here, and there is also more support and more marketing all needed and even lawyer payments would have to be higher because now you are dealing with more stuff that some nations see as fine and some don't.

Basically adding sportsbook could be nearly free if you just add third party with a paid employee developer working on it but do nothing else, or it could cost 100k+ if you need more developers and marketing and other stuff so basically it is a good long term idea but still costs money at the start.

Not really sure if this is a good idea, but Roobet has been known for every games, slots, roulette, crash etc. So they should continue doing this one, they are already becoming the best online casinos out there for now it is good (as a player).

Let other casino focus on sports betting, and let Roobet focus on delivering the best, at least for slot gamers.

^AFAIK, The only way to bypass country restriction is by using VPN, but DWYOR as it may violate the ToS.

I hope there will be a live streaming event for the draw tho, just like Duelbits. It's not only fun but also somewhat raising confidence about fairness.

Sportsbet is like a "slow-paced game," I doubt it will generate significant revenue like casino games. Yeah, users can bet daily on sports events, but they have to play on unknown leagues.

That's right. They have been long-existing in the market, they are very successful already even without adding sport-betting. To add, if they will add sportbook to their site, they will be needing a lot of time, effort, and money to maintain it. It's a great feature but it requires alot from roobet team. Even so, let us not disregard the possibiltiy that they would add it on the future.