Topic: Royse777 is Casino Critique - page 3. (Read 4022 times)

You're quoting me, but you didn't answer the question.

It's not about me either. And the longer you act like a trust system troll, the longer my red tag will stay on you.

Edit: grammar.

Then it's about you. If you say "Maybe sockpuppeting and lying about it and blaming others is the Bitcointalk way", then what are you, are you not a "reputable" Bitcointalk member as well, like Royse777?

That info is public - just go to his ban appeal thread.

A better question is "Who was gullible enough to UNban them in the first place? - (and by extension who supported their unbanning?)"

I'm trying to understand this part of the whole debacle--obviously naim027 was evading a ban with his alt accounts, but what was the meddling he was doing with the AnotherAlt account?  I don't have a photographic memory of all the details like some of you seem to, and though I'll go back and look at the CC thread(s), I'm hoping someone can give me a TL;DR on that.

And I'm also thinking that in light of the new information that's come out, i.e., that naim027 was blatantly ban evading with two alt accounts, that the mods ought to reconsider their decision to unban him.  That might be a wee bit off-topic, so I'll just leave it at that.

If you had a hunch - or better yet proof - about naim027's sockpuppeting, ban evasion, lies, etc then you should have made your trust rating about that and it could be perhaps useful to someone. Red trust for being banned is useless. And deleting/reposting your rating is borderline spam.

Wasn't he celebrating comeback in forum just a few days ago?  
Maybe he should add more information on his graphic designer portfolio, adding multitasking and ability to operate multiple forum accounts and pretend they are not connected.

Dude I don't understand why you care so much about this guy and his personal information than about your connection with him.
I know doxing is bad and not allowed in forum, but Naim basically exposed himself and dig his own grave, for all of his (known) accounts.
Regarding your connection with Casino Critique account, you made a mistake of hiding this information from public but you revealed it to some members and I don't understand why.
You can't expect everyone to keep your secret and be angry on them for exposing it  

He was probably doing some design work for Casino Critique, but he has a big mouth and he is not very smart.

Mental illness or some other hidden motives maybe...
Why is he not banned again for Ban evasion with all his alt accounts?

This is not about you. Nor do you have any standing to lecture about the trust system.

Naim027 was a part of the Casino Critique team and likely just trying to stick up for the team even though he would have been better off to stay out of it.

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All cool man.

The only mystery after this is, how did a serial alt farmer manage to ascertain what people thought was just speculation?  

And why was naim027 (masquerading as AnotherAlt) meddling in the affair if being on the team, he already knew who was behind CC?

Something stinks in here.

I already got a grip but after that, suchmoon has said that
Well, I hope you agree with me that I was right to reveal the secret. And it was a bit by chance, because for the same reason you say, I had put the Reputation section on ignore, and when a thread was moved here, I unignored the section because I was interested in following it.

Then I saw what had happened with that disgusting being called naim027, AnotherAlt, whatever scumbag and that's what triggered me to reveal the secret and I red tagged Royse777 and CC.

 
You better not blame others for what you brought on yourself. The little funding you got is not my fault, and as suchmoon says, telling so many people to keep a secret about you, makes it quite likely to be revealed.

What I don't understand is what kind of trust you had in me. We hadn't exchanged a single PM before you offered me the chip, and we had barely interacted in threads either. Too long I kept it a secret for the little relationship we had.

Get a grip on yourself, I already wrote that I didn't see his last post.

EDIT:

I rarely check on Reputation threads, because I have neither time nor interest in mudslinging. The last time I checked on this thread was sometime in early October. I guess you can figure out why, because nearly all the posts up to this point have been just flame wars between DT members, and with both a job & a nonprofit to attend to, I categorically ignored the whole conversation.

So it shouldn't come as a surprise even when the mic is dropped, I may not see it, especially when the the thread is pages deep in arguments and personal attacks.

PS. I was ready to invest 0.04 BTC with Casino Critique. I probably would not have had the confidence in doing so had I known that it was Royse777 raising the money, with him being fresh off the heels of the BitLucy snafu and all, with him saying he needs some time to cool down from it.

Just maybe... Here's one who at least asks some honest questions, but on the other hand if you think you have a duty to make it better, you have tools that you can use such as red tagging someone for what red tagging is meant to be. If you want to check a counter example of what a good use of a red tag is, you just have to check my profile for the red tag you left me 

Debunked NotATether? I can't believe you would say that coming from a quality poster like you. I think you are blinded by personal empathy.

Well, you're forcing me to do something I didn't think was necessary.

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I'm done with dramas. You won't see much of me in this section. I have done what the voice of my conscience tells me is the right thing to do, and I am not going to enter into endless discussions about my tag and my motives.

Just giving my $0.02 once again, but I still don't think Royse777 or any of the CC team members are or were trying to scam anyone.  I was pissed that Royse777 tried to silence criticism from yahoo62278, but other than that I don't have any issues with him.  

Regardless of him concealing his true identity with respect to the CC project, there's still the fact that he's only one member and the funds are protected by their escrow system (to the best of my knowledge).  Naim027's involvement was known right from the beginning, too.

You're right about that, and though I understand why Royse777 wanted to hide his identity I kind of figured it would be revealed one way or another.  Members here are justifiably suspicious, tenacious, and aren't stupid.  There's not a lot that can be hidden for long if they start digging.

I haven't read the whole bitlucy drama in excruciating detail, but my impression from the start is that Royse777 never scammed anyone.  If he was guilty of anything, it was making some wrong decisions based on his judgement of the information he had--and kept getting--at the time.  I gave him the benefit of the doubt, because I'm not sure how I would have acted in his shoes, and we all know hindsight is 20/20. 

You're right - I didn't read the most recent reply from Royse.

Royse777, I will give you a well-intentioned criticism.
starting from the fact that everything is exactly as you claim, when we talk about the Bitlucy case, your biggest mistake is that you waited for the matter to culminate and to publicly present the problem to them. so you were uncertain and indecisive, which caused the justified suspicion of the other members.

I completely understand opening a new CC account, partly because of the shaken trust in your name and you did not want the new project to be burdened with it from the beginning. But, again at some point when the discussion started about whether you are really behind the CC account, you were indecisive and didn't end the whole thing and tell the truth. Although it was obvious that many members already knew the real identity behind CC, it was a matter of time before it would become public.
So in just a few months, you make the same mistake twice. You certainly don't need anything to blame anyone who presented the confirmation that you are behind the CC account, negative image about everything is only your fault.

I'm still not sure why you insisted on raising funds for the project CasinoCritique (I already asked about that ). you were looking for money for wages for the work you will do on your project, this still sounds strange to me.

Unfortunately, after this drama and things about the team member naim027, you start the whole project from a much weaker position rather than if you just introduced him as Royse777 and possibly asked for help in promotion (or whatever), which will be paid when the project starts to bring in profit.

That was my initial impression too but it turns out that at least part of it is true.

Why are we still babbling about this debunked accusation 3 months later?

And how can we be sure that the OP isn't yet another naim027 alt (thus this entire thread would just be a gigantic troll-fest)?

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