Topic: Royse777 is Casino Critique - page 6. (Read 3924 times)

Would it?  I'm not so sure.  There're a lot of personalities in this forum, not everyone is going to like everyone.  Hell, even Switzerland has made some enemies, and he's about the most even-keeled AI human I've encountered on the interwebs.

Besides, I don't think anyone on the CC team is going to disclose their real name.  The only thing these trolls are asking for is a different, anonymous bitcointalk user name.

Don't be surprised if the next new reputation topic from JollyGood and his alts is something like this:
"All escrow team members are alt of Royse777"

It's possible from the stupidity level of JollyGood.
Months before he was seeing 1xbit to everything, now he is seeing Royse777 in everywhere.

I wasn't criticising anyone's jadedness by any means, believe me.  People have good reason to look on any crypto project with extreme skepticism because of all the BS that went on during the ICO mania and all the crap ideas and outright scams that said mania birthed.  

There's only one member who's choosing to remain anonymous (at least as far as I know), and personally I don't think that's too big a deal since all the money CC collects isn't being held by just one person, and also because there are some reputable members attached to the CC project.  Even if it was just Hhampuz and DireWolfM14 running the show, I'd trust that this isn't some rip-off attempt.  But that's just my opinion, and once again I'm remaining neutral.  My point is that the member who's behind the official CC account isn't of huge importance; the other members obviously trust him/her, and there's an escrow team in place to safeguard the project's funds.

That said, it would be so much better if that person disclosed their identity.  It'd put this discussion to bed at the very least.

Well, that's what it's going to boil down to in any case.  I'm not sure if the small amount that's been raised so far is due to this controversy or not, but I bet it's not helping.

That's true, but by our actions we and others have built up reputations over the years without requiring our identities to be known.  I think you'd agree that a bitcointalk username is associated with a certain reputation, assuming one has been established.  So if you don't even know someone's online identity, you can't gauge how trustworthy they are.

But as I've stated before, aside from the one anonymous member the other team members are known.

You will need to realize who is obsessed with Royse to understand the concern.

Who are these following users?
Royse777isCasinoCritique, notwhatyouthink, Zalima Zohair.

Who is the known account behind these unknown usernames? How can anyone describe why all these accounts has a common interest?

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Let's add some clue.
JollyGood is the only known account who is bitching against Royse all the time. He needed it, after all his campaign against 1xbit was losing traction. Question here: who is going to be his next hunt?

I have just one query from OP or anyone else is that lets's suppose Royse777 start a setup for Casino Critique and is raising 10 btc or 100 btc for his start up? What is the problem with it ?
Isn't it everyone's right to raise any money for their project and if anyone is a popular member of bitcointalk doing it, then what is wrong with it?
I just fail to understand the concern here 

You are welcome to your view and I am welcome to my mine. Anyway, regardless of the view, that is probably one of the many reasons why they have 0.005 BTC in their address which equates to less than $100

Are you rushing to invest and in the process add to their 0.005 BTC haul?

I have a different opinion: if investors want something that the other party doesn't want to give, they shouldn't invest.

I do not know if it is very profitable but it seems to be highly active in that board. If scammers cast a wide net and manage to pull in just one or two victims from thousands of potentials, then it means they will keep doing it in the hope of increasing numbers.

Those days of 2017/2018 are over, only a tiny minority of fundraiser projects will be able to sell coins and tokens to make millions of USD$ for themselves now.

It is fine with me too until the point I invest in a project, at that point I want to know who I am dealing with.

Anonymity does not have to be necessarily bad, I agree with that statement but in the end if investors or potential investors want to know the names of the full team behind his Casino Critique project it should be disclosed. If for some reason they do not want to disclose the names they really should disclose the real reasons why they are refusing to disclose the names of the people behind their project.

Judging by the activity of the Bounties (Altcoins) board, the token spam is still very profitable.

The real problem, in my opinion, is that most "investors" don't care what they're investing in. Ever since 2017 it struck me as weird that the simplest idea tries to raise $100 million, and none of the investors seems to realize that's enough money to buy thousands of luxory cars.

Being anonymous isn't necessarily bad. I'm more or less anonymous, and so are you. Most Mods too, and so is Satoshi. That's fine with me.

This thread of yours will soon die or buried by other threads unless you provide proofs that what you claim is true or correct and he has some help from DT members. To be exact, you are wrong about the part where you stated that DT members are helping to hide him from getting expose of what you claim about the things he did. I am sure that not all DT members are helping because I know some DT members have nothing to do with it. If it turns out to be a scam when their goal in raising 7 BTC as calculated by LoyceV through selling chips then you are free to start a scam accusation. After all, you won't be able to do anything about it unless you spend money like to bring it to the court if you can afford the cost. It is true that a few years back, many projects and even casinos before start a fundraising by selling tokens which in the end, many are scammed because of it.

I wish I had your optimism, but I don't.  The days of gullible investors on Bitcointalk.org might be over, but that's because we've become a bubble of jaded cynics.  All you have to do is look at all the ads on coinmarketcap, twitter, or the plethora of blockchain explorers to see that they're still going strong.  If those ads weren't working, no one would pay to place them there.  The majority of people are not as experienced with these tricks and scams, and still fit the "gullible" description.

Case in point: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/investors-scramble-to-recoup-money-from-23-year-old-crypto-king-who-allegedly-owes-35-million-1.6078121

If they really had a vision for the website and business they would make it happen even if they raised nothing more than the 0.005 BTC that already sits in their balance. I believe that address is theirs.

The real test for the team would be to openly announce who the other members are and then be ready face questions if they are asked. After that, they should be clear with their roadmap. They have not stated exactly who else beyond the 11 names mentioned are involved in the project and in which capacity.

That is the way it is. Scammers made off with phenomenal amounts of money via sham coin and token offerings.

If people are reluctant now it is because applying caution is far better than blindly jumping in. The days of launching an STO, IEO, ICO and other fundraising events to dupe gullible investors are over, the days of tokens and coins being sold to make teams wealthy while investors lost out such as in 2017 and 2018 are over.

You are right, having detailed prospectuses will not help (but nor will having a part-anonymous team).

The secure tip for cryptocurrency investment is to always do your own research because most people who are victims of scams or dump-and-pump projects rely on influencer statements about projects.
Yes, there are more than 2-3 reputable members of the forum who are involved in the Casino Critique but people still need to be cautious.

Why would they need this?

After all, they can write whatever they want and declare whatever they want as the Godzilla of the forum!!!
The "so-called" aristocrats of the forum in this way openly create rent for themselves; They can also participate in campaigns from their own sub-accounts as they wish. Who would want to lose this rent?

Especially when we think that the forum is far from its former popularity, they can now do these tactics more easily. I don't know about Royse, but when I read what's written, I get the idea that it's a very clear smear campaign.

Absolutely, though if it concerns problems with Casino Critique itself I don't think I could be of much help.  But I'm going to remain optimistic that there's not going to be any need for that.  I'm also hoping the project turns out to reach some level of success--but I get the feeling that whether that happens or not depends on the team raising enough money to get started, and like I said, judging from the number of chips sold so far there hasn't been much interest.  

I do know that much of what's on the roadmap is vague, and CC's revenue goals are lofty to say the least.  I think if they laid out a concrete plan with details as to how they're going to attract partners, sponsors, advertisers, and whatever else it might make it way more enticing to potential investors.  I think I suggested something like that when I was doing my editing.  The thing is, people have become jaded by all the scam ICO projects that promised everything and delivered nothing that they're reluctant to buy into some profit-sharing program that doesn't have a detailed prospectus, trusted bitcointalk members or not.

Unfortunately, I've got no control or even a say in any of that.  I don't even have experience in gambling or business, just writing, so my role was small and is most likely finished--unless they do launch the review site, need an editor, and decide to reach out to me for assistance with proofreading and such.

I gotta tell you, my impression is that there's no money to get started, much less bribe anyone to keep secrets.

If what you say is true, why is Royse777 not mentioned in their Review and Content Team?

Surprise surprise... trollybad did the same thing with me just because I criticized him, as if I care... but this just proves he is abusing his Default Troll membership.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who created or initiated bunch of this newbie alt accounts and accusation topics about Casino Critique.
This is his loooong list, it can't even fit one post:
https://loyce.club/trust/2022-09-17_Sat_05.07h/1016855.html

Stop lying.  You have me on ignore because I've criticized your abuse of the trust system.  It's all documented in black and white, including your retaliatory exclusion of me in your trust list.  So now you've proven that not only are you thin-skinned, but also dishonest about it.  Not a good look for a DT member, if you ask me.

I did not read it because I have him and several of his buddies on ignore and do not have much time for any of them, maybe occasionally temporarily unignoring them here and there to see what they are spouting if it happens to be in a thread that I take an interest.

Of course, that is the best advice and one I would offer to all and have done many times in the past.

For investors to part with 7 BTC on the say-so of that group would be a remarkable achievement. I doubt they will raise anything near it.

As for the chips for sale, it is not easy to understand the actual number after reading the text here in their Terms and Conditions

Is the number actually 4000?

Yes it is the account he exchanged merits with himself at one time too and he uses the same Dic3L0v3r alt-account when bumping the thread hoping to have the naim027 account banned  

Thankfully they are not using your name on their promotional material. Anyway, you stated clearly what involvement you have and you also have an excellent reputation in the forum and it should stay intact regardless of what the future holds for Casino Critique.

You are an approachable person, I am sure if anybody has any concerns they can contact you in private and you will not hesitate to engage with them regarding whatever it is they might be finding problematic.

I think that few hundred chips should be given for free to various forum members.
This chips are not ''altcoin'' because they are not on any blockchain I think, and I could hardly call this a bribe.

Why don't you simply ''admit'' that you received 1 million dollars in Bitcoin to keep the secret of original Casino Critique owner, and everyone else did the same  
Owner must be a very rich man when he could bribe many DT members with so much money...
Real question is who is the real notwhatyouthink, but then you search who had the biggest argument with Royse and you will probably find him easily, he is still obsessed with him.



notwhatyouthink is dead.
long live the notwhatyouthink.