Topic: Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week /Sinbad campaign/ - page 4. (Read 3351 times)

You wrote so many words but you didnt said anything important or reply to my post, and you knew at that time that mixers will stop on January 1.
It is not good to temporary increase rates to make it highest ever just to attract good members, and than cancel the campaign in next week.
You are giving false image and bad promotion to service you are advertising.
Another thing you are doing is often changing and reducing payrates inside the same campaign, to everyone or to individuals.

Unrelated with anything I said, and to my criticism, but do whatever you want.
I am sure many other members would say the same thing as me but they dont want to say anything against managers.

Worst strategy ever, and it was done on purpose like this  

Most people who was not accepted in that campaign should be very lucky considering everything that happened.
Receive the payment,  than be without any payment, and blame it all on mixer ban, perfect crime

I merely stated a fact with which he brags himself: he managed the best paying campaign for 10 days. Is there anything incorrect about this statement? The best payment lasted only 10 days (4-14 December). I believe this must be appreciated properly (this is why I also wrote that "Hooray!"):



Then 1miau stated that he could hire 2 Legendaries for one week paying 25$ per post (up to 15 posts) and that would become best paying campaign. Is there anything incorrect about this statement?
Finally, I said that if I'd pay someone with 30$/post (for max 1 post) for wearing a signature advertising me, that would make my campaign as best paying campaign. Is there anything incorrect about this?

When I manage a campaign, many times I make many hard calls when it's necessary.

If we have a specific campaign in mind which in this case seems like [banned mixer]. It was not the owner, it was me who made the call.

You sound like every manager and every project that wants to publish their business in this community owe you something. Working in a signature campaign is not a contract job, it's not your human right, it's a privilege you enjoy if you are chosen.

Very soon everyone will have some light about it. I promise but not in this topic.

I don't know why you want to add fuel to the fire with that ironic tone.


Yes, there may be a loophole, as you mention, but so far it has not been used in the way you mean. What has happened now is because of the ban that starts on 1 January. As far as I know, apart from this exception, when funds went to escrow it was for campaign spending.

I feel like there's a loophole in signature campaign.

Someone can run a campaign, mention the total funds on escrow (giving an illusion for people to think the campaign has x amount that can afford to run for x weeks) or even saying the campaign will run for long term. But after few week(s) the campaign stopped since the owner asking to stop, even though the escrowed funds has still a lot money.

But there was stated "the manager/owner reserve the right to bla bla bla", so it makes people can't do anything because their money their rules.

O M G Royse runs best paying campaign! Oh wait...


The great manager Royse managed to run the best paying campaign. For 10 days. Hooray!


I might run a signature campaign with only 1 user; and not even Legendary, but just Jr. Member, paying 30$/post (up to 1 post) and call it "the highest paying campaign", since I'd pay more than you and even more than Royse, lol. And if I'd want to look even more eccentric, I could run it also for 11 days, thus it would become also "the longest best paying campaign".

I can understand where you're coming from a bit, but in a different context, since I was about to buy thousands of dollars worth of link placements before my website got suspended.

Sometimes unforeseen events mess up the planning so people should take reasonable precautions to deal with the ones they know about so they won't become a problem later.

Thanks for confirming my point, you are professionally ethical and loyal to the industry, aka a part of modern slavery machine, now I see why people talk about ethics here, and why I had my guard up against them was because of the fact that I considered them unethical creatures only caring for money no matter the source, but now I understand you are truly a monster among humans, you even took advantage of a wounded puppy like me and tried to under pay me just to please your clients as if we are some soulless tools, the end justifies the means, right?

Please note that, if I respect 20 people in this community, you are definitely one of them, and I have no grudges against you, also what I said on tumbler's thread was my humanity calling you incompetent, while in the eyes of a business man, you are a perfect and successful partner to have.  But look at US enslaving Chinese for their profit, look where China is and where US is today.

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Ok enough of this political bs, good luck mate.😉

Thank you, I appreciate the criticism greatly. It allows me to become better and serves my clients even better.

With the coming rule that will be enforced from January 1st, things are changing fast on the forum. I think we all agree with that.
Every project who have huge marketing budget wants the best out of their spending. They want aggressive marketing to stand out of the crowd. Only managers can understand it.

[banned mixer] is a team who have massive marketing budget, at least this is the impression I have from them.
Over $7,500 (0.2900 BTC) spent on the review campaigns.
Around $1,000 spent on signature and avatar contest.
Over $18,500 (0.5000 BTC) already sent to me for signature campaign.
Over $26,000 (I assume 0.7440 BTC) to some specific members (some of them refunded some as you know).

No doubt, [banned mixer] is the brand who are going to be the most unfortunate project on Bitcointalk community. They already spent a lot of money but when it was time to start receiving the benefits, a massive change in the rule messed up the initial plan that was set to execute. Things started to change and we had to make many changes, many business calls (calculated risks) - together or even alone myself as their campaign manager.

In general, I ensure the maximum ROI for my clients. Many of my clients have big budget but that does not mean that I always suggest them to spend big. My goal is to balance the spending and the return of the spending, which allows my clients to become top of their niche.

As a campaign manager of [banned mixer], my job is to minimize the damage that has already done, give the most so that they can stay in the crypto ecosystem for many coming months and years to become one of the top and reliable mixers. There are no doubt that [banned mixer] team have what it takes to be the best too.

Regarding highest paying and minimal paying criticism? Consider a business (guess it's a Smartphone brand) wants to expand their business.
Option A: India
Over 1.43 Billion population, density P/Km² 481
Option B: Philippines
Over 117.35 Million population, density P/Km² 394

It's not only the audience but there are many factors involved when you are planning for marketing a brand. Factors like economic, regulatory, audience knowledge, competition, social, many others but let's make it simple for you. If you only consider the audience, will you suggest your clients to have a marketing budget and strategy that will be the same for India and Philippines? It seems you will. Good luck for the brand you are going to work for, I hope the best for you.

As a campaign manager, I will suggest my clients to spend even below 5% of the marketing budget they already planned for India and order my team to work 4x harder in this project.

Thanks for having me in this topic.

Cheers,

I can say he is a bit busy managing several campaigns, but please don't bring up ethics here, in case you are oblivious about the world, half of the population is undergoing a modern slavery system and the other half is like the sheeple, they just live for the sake of living. This is how the market works, you try different approaches to stay in the competition otherwise you'd lose. In case you haven't read the terms of his campaigns, better read them again, he has not violated any of them. Besides, this is not a real job, this has been a known fact that sig campaigns are temporary side bonuses.

And you have no idea how sad and unpleasant it is for me to see some people might lose their only income and have nothing to bring for their table in their house.
But you must drop this "unethical" agenda, it doesn't look good.

I was not member of recent campaigns managed by Royse, but I am little surprised how he was handling things recently.
He knew that mixer campaigns are not going to be allowed next year in forum but he increased rewards with unrealistic high payment rates to make his campaign highest paid and to attract good members.
Than he suddenly stopped that campaign and moved it to another place with minimal payment rewards.
It is not good to create fake picture in competition with other managers, and for me this is not ethical.
I dont have anything against Royse and I wish him all best, but i think he is making to many mistakes in his work as a manager.

Exactly money shouldn’t be kept in binance for now because I don’t think is a nice idea but I already submitted all the answers to the questions asked but I don’t feel safe yet because I haven’t gotten any response from binance since after my submission and it’s been over 48 working hours.

Honestly, this could call for panic because it's the reputation of the users that are in line. To be just, Binance should use their brain to study and investigate carefully how these monies were being sent out, they are so little and regular every week, so it must have been for a purpose that is not criminal. By now, I know that they would have known what the money was being used for in the tagged escrow account as Binance is more professional than that and I doubt if the majority of users here are not using them for one thing or the other.

I also expect Royse777 who is directly involved to have contacted Binance by now to shed more light on it. This is purely a marketing arrangement but I believe this would raise more questions as to where they get to contact each other, I mean the partner, which is also simple to answer.

Above all, I advice anyone that is affected in this case where the BTC address tagged was used to pay them to be very smart. They should not have any money in Binance for now, and even in other exchanges where their assets could be seized unless the money can't be traced to the wallet address in question.

This isn't a personal issue you have against Royse777 I hope, because I don't seem to understand why you would think of him as a fraud. If he has been playing dirty don't you think he would have ran away with other campaign payment before now?
OP, I feel he's trying his best to not get himself and other participants involved in what they don't have any clue about.
I believe Royse777 has a better way of paying for the remaining week and touching that fund as things are being heated up at the moment, I don't think is a great idea and that would even make him the fraudster you accuse him to be.

You don't understand anything, do you, man? I'm not just saying that because of this post, I just replied to you in another one and you just write rubbish. Read again. With whom do you agree on that point?


On this I agree.


Congratz, you must be the only one who thinks so.


Tell me it didn't take you a long time and a sweat to come to that conclusion please.

I believe that the forum gained a lot of activity because of the Mixer campaign, with a good pay rate you will have good motivation to be in a healthy conversation, but Theymos has to do what he has to do even though it hurts many members who are considered good contributors on this forum.
After January 1 we will only see casinos and a few other platforms but casinos will rule the forum in terms of signature campaign.
But I'm sure Theymos is reading all of the members' opinions and we will see if there is a change of heart, it's not over until it's over until Theymos post that he will not change his mind.

It won't make any difference surely for the mixers but it would for the campaign managers. Till now CM was the highest paying signature campaign but now the crown goes to another campaign that's paying $10 a post. That would at least make it as a saved memory because someone was paying $10 per post to the members and that's an insane rate. I know that within short duration of a few days the advertising won't reach its goals but still it's something unique and has never happened before.

OP really sucks.

He is not participan of th campaign.
The participants agree with royse decition


LOL you have really good answers above your reply and you just decide to ignore all those good and qualify answers

this is like finding about some already refuted conspiracy theory and select only the answers that don't refute that.

I agree with LoyceV, raising the rate will not make any difference as the objective is to advertise within the forum till the 31st of December. Fighting over the rates and trying to make their respective Signature Campaign better than the other is an insane approach. Both of them knew that these mixer campaigns would eventually end by the deadline. I went through the discussion on the campaign thread and I feel both of them should calm down and move on.

I do not think a ban on Bitcoin mixer would make any difference to the forum. What I felt after reading a lot of discussion that the forum has led down the community and those part of mixer campaign are not at all happy with the decision.

Bitcoin still works fine, but real-life consequences are still a thing.
 
Thanks, I'll add it to my list of things to read