Topic: Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week /Sinbad campaign/ - page 6. (Read 3379 times)

It wouldn't be difficult to trace a single transaction with a specific number of output addresses that received payments with a similar balance and was broadcast within the last hour or two.

The difficulty will increase if the transaction processing time is not specified, a new address is given for each week, or payments are added manually to the mixer algorithm.

I have no idea how to find the specific post, but I brought this up a while back.  It wasn't in the form of a suggestion if I recall, but a question as to why those spreadsheets are made public.  I got a bunch of answers.  And now here we are, all paranoid about what lists and what addresses might be on those lists are being kept by our elected thieves.  Dang, I'm thinking shit probably ought to have changed a long time ago.

I do not participate in campaigns managed by Royse777 but I have an opinion on this topic. So, let me give my opinion based on what I know about what constitutes a scam, although I have the freedom to express my thoughts on all topics published here unless a topic has special requirements that make it impossible for me to leave a response.

Fraud is an effort carried out intentionally to benefit the person of the perpetrator at the expense and harm of others. The definition of fraud can generally be found in many sources so that you can interpret the truth.

From what I understand the meaning of Royse777's statement in the part you quoted in the OP, Royse777 has not decided not to send funds to participants as a result of the work they have done. He will not touch the funds from the escrow wallet to avoid things that impact him such as legal problems. He also made an exception, he would only pay if there was direction from the lawyer.

Royse777 publishes publicly about the funds it has and explains what it will do with these funds.
From which point of view a campaign participant can make accusations — to him that he committed fraud. CMIIW

If you keep your coins in your own non-custodial crypto wallet, no one can access them without your private key.

Could the cops or whoever still figure out it's you if you slipped up and left an internet trail back to yourself? I mean yeah, technically they could if they really wanted to dig into things and connect some dots.  But why would they bother for such tiny buys or sells that got nothing to do illegal stuff happening? You're small potatoes man, they aren't gonna care.

If they already blocked your account, you can explain that you have received those coins before LE announcing that mixer illegal and that you had no prior knowledge of anything related to criminal activities of the said mixer, so legally you are OK, however if now after it has been established that the funds were illegally obtained, whatever you do from now on, you will be considered a complicit in their crimes, so if you don't send to CEX now, you are OK. you might as well use a mixer, I'm not going to say which one, but you know which one I'm talking about.😉

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@yahoo, so we should send address to CM via PM? cool idea.

I'm not sure why the fuss here? If you controlled the funds in the escrow address, would you send money from them with the warning that was posted? Take the loss folks and move on.

Off topic a little but this whole situation does make me wonder if managers should keep spreadsheets private? Who knows how many address are being watched at this point?

George Carlin - You Have No Rights.


As long as you keep bitcoin that you received from mixers away from services where you did KYC, you should probably be fine.

I was the participant of this campaign and i received funds from this escrow address few times.

My concern is that should i be worried about this ? I do not live in the US and the funds are in my Electrum wallet. Can law enforcement agencies can approach me 

There is no flag, as far as I can see.


No one. The fact that no one from his campaign has protested demanding that he be paid is significant. If I were the OP I would simply lock the thread because leaving him open looks like it will only garner more opinions against him.

Good luck getting any support for that flag, any rational person would evaluate the accusation in its full context not just the part that says "Royse777 did not pay me"

But seriously, who wants to be on OFAC list for a hundred dollars or so? And do not tell me "this is all the money I got, I will starve without it" because it is better to be broke than on that sanctioned list.

Given that some participants take payments directly to exchanges, there is no doubt that the payout will immediately put many people at risk including Royse, this is a risk not worth taking IMO.

I consider it a situation in which the OP is only seeking attention and nothing else; if not, then why not have he or she not read carefully the quote that he included in his post? I don't think the English in his quote was so difficult to understand, given that he can write what everyone here understands. Or better still, we have to start thinking his topic was created by an AI, and he failed to also translate the quote to his native language so he could understand what Royce had said. I expected that it was a Sinbad participant that was even supposed to create this kind of thread, but instead, it was a non-participant, or maybe we can agree that it's an alt account of a Sinbad participant.

Seriously, you promoted a bitcoin mixer and were depositing money from your wallet to Binance? At least you could try to exchange BTC into monero and deposit on Binance (Biannce accepts Monero deposits) or just convert into another altcoin. 1-2% fee is nothing when it comes to your privacy and protection. I know it's late to say this and I am not here to blame you or judge you, just keep in mind this in future.

That's a really good question. Campaign manager is in touch with the mixer owner (or representator), they could possibly become the target of investigation but Darkstar didn't have any problem after chipmixer accident as far as it looks.

By the way, escrow funds were in Monero and then converted into Bitcoins by manager, it would be better for everyone's safety, I think.

They don't deserve negative trust for this!

I agree with you on this part.

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Now this situation makes me think that anyone can worsen your life by sending you some free bitcoins from tagged address, right? If I were a participant of Sinbad campaign, I could ruin your life by sending coins to you from my address? Oh my god, das ist Scheiße.

Do what's right and have a clean past, then no one will be able to use anything from your past against you, it's easy, right?
I know you said something same about yourself in another thread, I don't know your issue well, so don't take it personally.

Hate is far from what I sense here, unless the users have some past dealing with the said manager. If not, what I sense here is trying to buy favors from people who are in the campaign, making it look as if he states a fire. People are not aware of, when there is literally nothing hidden in there, and when they see the post members will be like „fvck, yes, this dude has a point.“ Why did I not even think about such things? Let me encourage him with some merit. Boom at the OPs side, mission accomplished, but. 
 
Or maybe the Op' have an alt account which is in Royse campaign which is the escrow address is no longer save and can't pay his employees from there but he is not bold enough to start a case their because he don't know what the outcome will be, for someone who don't really understand the gravity of mess they might get their self involved in if they get paid from that address

You are entitled to +1000 merit for this post.

If you want, you can take my payment in this campaign. Or maybe part of all the campaign participants. I just saw someone who hates too much like you, you are really talking nonsense

Who the fuck are you? You are not here to help anyone. You are here to ruin someone's reputation and this is not the first time. Aren't you the one who send Pm to his clients and asks not to hire him because he was part of a casino? Aren't you the one who was crying after Royse left you negative feedback? You are not helping yourself by doing this. It's ovbious why you are doing this. Now, If you create another thread for any legitimate reason, people won't give you a fuck because they know you are just an attention seeker.

US customers buying and selling crypto is a privilege, not a right?

Think of it that way, not in the way they phrase it for exchanges.

If all exchanges cut their service for US customers, what will be left for them? I guess Coinbase (with their shady IRS fondling techniques) stays regardless? But even they want to move their headquarters elsewhere.

So much for "We're the leading edge of crypto innovation".

1 address is Kucoin exchange deposit address.

CFTC said that the case of Binance is just the beginning. CFTC says access to US customers 'is a privilege, not a right,' in aggressive case against Binance that is only just getting started.

Kucoin is one of exchanges that has advantage from Binance legal issues, but do they learn from this and do the same like Binance to flag the sanctioned address?

I guess they will do it.

I'm surprised they don't have more Bitcoin addresses on that list.

No. You can't post links to illegal services and you'll get banned if you try to bypass "http://[directing people to darknet sites is not allowed].onion/" (for instance by adding a dot in between the URL).

I'm not going to discuss religion and morality here, but a simple fact, because you guys refuse to understand, that address is marked for holding illegally obtained coins, AKA stolen coins, so anyone here talking about getting paid with that money, deserves a negative trust, anyone touching that money by sending it to anyone other than law enforcements, also deserves a negative trust. You can not so blatantly talk about getting paid with a money which belongs to someone else, on a clear net forum, if anyone decides to do that, should get tagged accordingly to show the LE, that we do not condone such behaviour and anyone promoting such behaviour does not represent this community.

Criminal and freedom fighter is not the same, unfortunately I know that people here depend on such payments, and that brings tear to my eyes, but you should really stop discussing this. Just think about this:

If one day you say hey instead of Hello and someone feels offended, they will find your post here and use it to punish you, this is a normal bitch making tactic used here, BEWARE!😂

From where do you want the campaign manager to pay the participants? Escrow address cannot be handled anymore due to the email being sent to few participants from Binance. If an exchange is sending email asking for clarification then it means the investigating team has reached them for information. Until everything has been sorted out it is better not to touch that wallet. You guys cannot blame the manager or pressurize him for payment as it is not his fault.