Topic: Royse777 will not pay anyone for the last week /Sinbad campaign/ - page 2. (Read 3361 times)

I find the subtle tone this topic has taken, both on one side and the other, quite amusing and entertaining. We'll see how it turns out, but it's certainly different from what we usually see in this section. Waiting to see what the next subtle move looks like, or if it ends with such subtlety.

(Edited to say that it seems it wasn't subtle)

Here is a solution that will keep Royce and the Sinbad campaigners safe.

- Royce will send me the amount needed to cover the debt to the Sinbad participants.
- I, in turn, will keep these coins and process the payment from my own funds (minus 5%).

I think the mods should now close this thread, since I believe the issue mentioned in the OP will be resolved soon.

IMO, Royse777 decided too early to pack the stuff and migrate, all his clients could rename and start operating under a shell company like jambojetler, by leaving so soon now he has put his clients at risk of losing potential future audience from Bitcointalk, so he needs to think of something, and fast, because the competition is ahead at least a week.😉

Long story short.

#Drama1

Since theymos decided to ban mixers, the campaign won't run after 1st January. Royse as a campaign manager, decided to move his campaigns to another forum and he thought to offer it to some other mixer companies. But, the problem is, those companies are already working with other managers. The possible reason could be, that Royse didn't think if other managers also planned to move the campaign to another forum or not.

Then, icopress complained that his clients got messages from Royse777 which he considered unethical.

#Drama2

after announcing the mixers ban, Royse decided to increase the pay rate because the campaign won't be long-lasting as everyone knows and it was supposed to run till the end of the year. But, The campaign ended with 2 weeks in hand. The company decided to run its campaign immediately on another platform and stop it on Bitcointalk after 2nd week.

Now, some people accuse him saying he fooled the campaign participants with the high pay rate but the campaign did not run for a long time. They started criticizing Royse because he ended the campaign after running it for two weeks. Most probably, it was the company who decided not to continue.

Yes, it was known right when Sinbad.io started:


Alone from any basic research, shady history of Sinbad.io was known.
If Royse777 did any basic research how shady Sinbad.io has always been, now Bitcointalk won't have any problems.

Yeah sure, that is why you just applied ang signed contract for new campaigns
If you do decide to leave this place, I wish you all best and safe trip back to the normal world.
I am sure you are not going to have any regulations, restrictions and kyc there 

First of all, Royse did hire him to participate in one or more of his campaigns and he is really paying him, so he is hired by him for something.
Than I never said that everyone needs to think same like me, that is stupid.
Any campaign I participated in I never feel the need to protect and serve whatever manager, on contrary.

He achieve his goal, to have fake highest paying campaign in forum.
Reason I followed this subject  is because I had a topic with my personal sponsored giveaway about this, and nobody paid me to do this.

The project was not fully successful, but the signature campaign project was in the sense that they ran it for a long time and paid in full every week. A substantial sum of money was also left in escrow. Prior to my participation, I was unaware of their connection to the Lazarus organisation.

Anyone wanting to get coins from that address is not a sane person and is asking for trouble. Seems they want their names to be included in the justice.gov files, that's what they are asking for.

Sinbad's signature campaign was not a success. I can't call it a success because many bad things, i.e. mixers got banned after Sinbad's accident and it was also known long ago that Sinbad was a renewed Blender. Sinbad's main source of income probably was Lazarus group, during their existence as Blender and after being renamed as Sinbad.

Fair enough. Almost thought you guys are lovers.


None of the Sinbad participants are complaining about the underpaid week; the only people flinging mud at the wall and hoping it sticks are those who enjoy criticising Royse. The Sinbad Sig campaign was a success. And I don't want to be a part of the final payment. Those coins are deemed stained in perpetuity.

Moving the tainted coins to another mixer may jeopardise the company as well.

Because the law enforcement officers are watching our every move, so we can't secretly distribute illegal funds, duh.

Why Royse can't send all funds into a mixer,
mix it,
get untainted funds again
distribute remaining last week /Sinbad campaign/?

and send all remaining funds to a Bitcointalk faucet where each Bitcointalk member can get a little bit of it?

Good advice! Personally I was expecting that people would slowly leave mixer signature campaigns instead of a sudden burst till 1st January.

I don't understand why did that turn into a huge problem. It doesn't matter which campaign is the highest paid campaign. The only thing that matters how much freedom campaign gives to its users, how good users it chooses and how effective is campaign for the business according to the money they spent into it.
If anyone want to argue about highest paid signature campaign, then they have to compare campaign that has the highest payrate with highest number of participants for a long time, probably at least for 6 months or 12 months. They have to keep in mind the value in USD that campaign was spending each week. Chipmixer was the highest paid signature campaign on this forum, no one can deny that. It was paying a lot, had many participants and was on this forum for 5 years.

To be frank, it was a huge mistake from you to start a Sinbad signature campaign when it was known that Sinbad was a project of sanctioned mixer called Blender. It was also a mistake that forum administration let Sinbad to promote themselves here. Many mistakes were done.

Did Royse claimed or entitled his campaign as the highest paid signature campaign? I don't remember but maybe I am wrong, can't be 100% sure.
To be frank, it wasn't nice from icopress to say that in the long run, it was very unlikely that Royse's campaign could compete with Mixtum in every sense of the word.

Also, Royse hasn't expressed any disrespect towards Hhampuz. Icopress said that Hhampuz was taller than both of them (this disrespects Royse but shows respect towards Hhampuz and also shows that Icopress is not an egoist) that meant that Hhampuz was better manager and above of them. Roise's response was more direct and oriented on word tall as a meaning of height and I would say that his response was carrying humor, I can't call that a disrespect towards Hhampuz. Has Hhampuz taken that as a disrespect?
P.S. I don't know anything else that has happened between Royse and Icopress, so I can't touch their topics anymore. I only comment about this case.

Just a piece of advice, you can ignore it or consider it, it's up to you but I'll say anyway: If you know and have proofs that someone does something shady, you have to make it immediately public. It's not very masculine and morally right to keep quiet until they touch personally you and then make a threat that if they don't shut their mouth, you are going to reveal everything about them.

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I hope things will go well for all of you. It's not necessary to fight and disrespect each-other.

Since I've been participating in both campaigns, managed by Royse777 and icopress and have been happy with both, it's quite surprising that some people (including me) are accused with unproven fake accusations /speculations now:


For simply making a joke in MixTum's signature campaign topic managed by icopress, I even did a similar joke back then somewhere else already some months ago and no one cared.  
It's not allowed to make jokes anymore if these could hurt some people's feelings help evaluating the unnecessary flexing with campaign payments?  
Are there no valid arguments, that the only attack are unproven fake accusations?
Aside from that, the statement in my message could not be disproven, neither in the MixTum topic, nor here because it's perfectly pointing out that flexing with "highest paying campaign" is much more than just a single number without any context as pointed out here as well:


As a professional campaign manager, first thing I would do, would be to stop spreading weird and unproven fake accusations / speculations about "under table offer too to spread things".

As said before, I've been working with both icopress and Royse777, very good experience.
The best campaign management is to provide a professional campaign, both for advertised service and for participants (+ for the forum as well by rewarding quality posters).
And as a side note: I'm a campaign manager as well: [AKTUELL KEINE TEILNEHMER GESUCHT] Große kleine Yassin Profilbildkampagne  
With spreadsheet and hookers.  

I was a participant in the Sinbad campaign, even though it was just an Avatar campaign. I believe that Royse777 is very professional and never once tries to cheat people. What Royse is doing is on the basis of safety for everyone. Don't you know how many people panicked at that time?

I don't mind not getting paid that last week. It's not that he doesn't want to pay, but Royse777 shouldn't pay for security reasons. I have not found any participants from the campaign who protested and accused Royse777. I personally still consider Royse to be one of the best managers on this forum.

Admit it Loyce, the entire reason you constructed and maintain these lists is so you can covertly profess your love and admiration of Royse777.


Its really not worth reading. No manager has a 100% success rate when it comes to avoiding projects that turn out to be scams, or not what they were advertising themselves as (although some are better at staying away from them than others).

Let me get you on speed here, don't bother read walls of texts, royse777 is like Apple(company), this forum is like US, now he has decided to move to China(altcoinstalkssomething.com) to enslave forum members further.(lol honestly, for the one campaign I checked there, they are paying $1.20 per post, not bad for most people) now people are saying why did he cancelled tumbler here after promising $10 per post until 1st Jan and moved the campaign there with much lower payments?

And royse had an exposee on GB and icosomething by revealing their resumes they sent to service owners. And we are here to discuss and at the same time fulfill our quotas, at the end, we'd get paid, some people would get hurt/damaged, while the world watches and laughs whispering "these people wanted to revolutionize the economy?" They would then go to asleep like a baby. Because we have turned to a joke, all we care about is worth less than $1M per year. Lol

Surely, we will conquer the wall street in no time [insert the skeleton behind a desk here]. Final lol.

I've seen that line of thinking on conspiracy websites so many times, it boggles my mind why people believe would be paid in some backroom deal to write posts agreeing with the person paying them.  The truth is that some people take sides based on their opinion of whatever, whether it's someone's performance as a campaign manager or some other loyalty that wasn't bought and paid for.  I've stuck up for Royse777 in the past because he never cheated me and was completely above board in any dealings I had with him.  Same goes for icopress, Hhampuz, and many other people here.  I'm sure that same motivation or similar is the driving force for whoever is disagreeing with notblox1. 

Seems like I missed some more recent drama with Royse777, because I'm reading new accusations.  Question:  is all the information in this thread or elsewhere?  I'd like to know before I embark on a bunch of reading that would require a lot of attention being paid to it.  I'm not being lazy, just efficient and asking for help.

What can I say, I don't choose who shows up on my weekly list of DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned).

The fact that the username " Royse777" has been used 559 times on the reputation board alone since January is crazy.

To add salt to the wound, LoyceV has used the username "Royse777 in his posts 62 times and rank No.1. This must be love ? 

A victim of his own success?

Lol, I missed that post. This is getting better and better:
Guys, I'm available! My loyalties are flexible! Should I create an Auction thread for this, or will it happen under the table?

Seriously though, it sounds paranoid to even think people are being paid for a certain opinion on something as unimportant as another user on a forum. Even better when both parties think the same! And for whoever missed the sarcasm above: my loyalties are not for sale.