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legendary
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The game can be open sourced, the DB high-jacked, and we freemen can go about our business undeterred by TPTB.

In fact I just shamelessly did it myself   Roll Eyes

While compensating the owners of the game with a free spinoff of about 9% of the shares of the new project to keep good relations. (Stock was free for me but is valuable to the recipients.)

Note open source doesn't magically guarantee anything. Vtrash (aka Vanillacoin) is open source also.

The will and the know-how has to be there also.
sr. member
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The game can be open sourced, the DB high-jacked, and we freemen can go about our business undeterred by TPTB.

In fact I just shamelessly did it myself   Roll Eyes

While compensating the owners of the game with a free spinoff of about 9% of the shares of the new project to keep good relations. (Stock was free for me but is valuable to the recipients.)

Note open source doesn't magically guarantee anything. Vtrash (aka Vanillacoin) is open source also.
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Meanwhile, he is far removed from such things, and literally could not care less about the price of any dying dinosaurs, no matter if labeled USD, EUR or BTC, unless the magnitude of the change is significant from a global standpoint.

Would you mind going over some of the reasons you think Bitcoin might be a dying dinosaur? If you've already covered this elsewhere, a link to a prior post would be great. Thanks.
sr. member
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Also, LJ said what the murals were about

You seem to have a reading comprehension deficiency (or perhaps you were reading before I edited it?). Try again to read my post. And again, learn what 'compartmentalization' actually means in this context as linked for you.
legendary
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The artist himself said things that undermine your argument (duh).

The definition of 'compartmentalization' which applies in the context I employed, may help you understand.

The game can be open sourced, the DB high-jacked, and we freemen can go about our business undeterred by TPTB.

Also, LJ said what the murals were about, anything you or the "Rothschild's" infer is wishful thinking, but you can believe it until your dying day and nobody will stop you from being wrong--IE, you'll need more proof than this could mean that or they could have done that this way (it's conjecture on your part, and there's no good reason for me to believe it any more than the next guys conjecture--what I believe is the artist, his ability to perform his function as he or she states and not to be drugged or hypnotized into the whims of whomever--unless of course you have evidence that can be verified--ie. I believe in the CIA's MK Ultra scheme because there is evidence and hearings based on that evidence that is readily available and verified by multiple sources--some dude I talk to on the internet doesn't qualify here and you have yet to produce any evidence outside of conjecture and cherry picking a few details to reconfirm and further entrench a hunch into a belief.).



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rpietila (Your Majesty King Crichton)

Some months ago I took a short stroll through bits & pieces of Crypto Kingdom, but it did not look like my cup of tea.  An interesting idea, but I guess I am too old.

Yet, you seem to be up to interesting things.  Saving Europe is a big task, even if you are doing so from a relatively free country and even from a castle.  Bravo.

Do keep us (you too iamnotback) informed of efforts and ideas re FREEDOM, a topic of much interest to me.  iamnotback once mentioned Pitcairn Island (very low population).

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Just for my curiosity (and likely for many others), is there a Summary available of what you are thinking or what you want to do?  If you are inviting smart activists to your place to make important changes, please let us know.  (I don't want to know any confidential/secret matters).


Note that I have no relevant skills, don't like cold weather and my wife wouldn't let me go there anyway...  So you do not have to worry about me trying to breach your gates...  

Smiley



Count Wannabe Bearing Linchpin of the Neoptropics

I'm so jealous of your title Smiley

Risto will have to speak to the designs of MK and CK, but there is market feedback between the two and it shows how CK can interact with platforms outside of the game and in the physical world. My comments above about the ability to fork and start again at any saved point of the DB illustrate how a potential TPTB attack could be handled--though for now the game isn't large enough to be on any radars (though Finland and MK might change that).
sr. member
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The artist himself said things that undermine your argument (duh).

The definition of 'compartmentalization' which applies in the context I employed, may help you understand.

A plausible way this occurred is:

1. Murals that did not meet the objectives of the "New World Airport Commission" that paid for the artwork (e.g. painting of "Indian corn") were at the last minute replaced by advertising.

2. Cheryl Detwiler (a graduate of the Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design) may have been the one who was (possibly subconsciously through hypnosis while she slept or what ever) influenced on what themes should be painted and she probably had an influence on the ideas that Leo formed. Leo was already poised to paint such themes, and probably only needed some nudges to get certain symbolic aspects to align with themes that conspiracy theorists interpret. It is possible they were being fed subliminal messages in numerous possible technological ways. The elite obviously pride themselves on being able to demonstrate the range of their technological power, e.g. 9/11.

3. We don't know if these titles were selected for the artists before they began painting:

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“In Peace and Harmony With Nature.”
“A Child Dreams of Peace”

That first quote you will also find conceptually (not verbatim) on the Georgia Guidestones inscriptions.

Ted Turner is reputed to be the funding source for the Georgia Guidestones. I wouldn't be suprised if he was also one of the secret individuals in the New World Airport Commission for the Denver International Airport, which is the airport media relations officer refused to reveal the names of.

Ted Turner is the one pushing for population control despite the fact that he has 5 children. He has stated that we must live at peace and harmony with nature, which is his code phrase for depopulation. Given his large acreage ownership (for Bison free ranging) in the Western USA, I would think he would be interested in the symbolism in Colorado.
legendary
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rpietila (Your Majesty King Crichton)

Some months ago I took a short stroll through bits & pieces of Crypto Kingdom, but it did not look like my cup of tea.  An interesting idea, but I guess I am too old.

Yet, you seem to be up to interesting things.  Saving Europe is a big task, even if you are doing so from a relatively free country and even from a castle.  Bravo.

Do keep us (you too iamnotback) informed of efforts and ideas re FREEDOM, a topic of much interest to me.  iamnotback once mentioned Pitcairn Island (very low population).

*  *  *

Just for my curiosity (and likely for many others), is there a Summary available of what you are thinking or what you want to do?  If you are inviting smart activists to your place to make important changes, please let us know.  (I don't want to know any confidential/secret matters).


Note that I have no relevant skills, don't like cold weather and my wife wouldn't let me go there anyway...  So you do not have to worry about me trying to breach your gates...  

Smiley



Count Wannabe Bearing Linchpin of the Neoptropics

legendary
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What are these funny titles you guys have and where do I get one?

Sincerely, Archpope Eris Discordia, keeper of the sacred Chao, deliverer of fnords.

http://cryptokingdom.me/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-kingdom-1991-retro-virtual-worldcity-819073
legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
What are these funny titles you guys have and where do I get one?

Sincerely, Archpope Eris Discordia, keeper of the sacred Chao, deliverer of fnords.
legendary
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As soon as you say "I believe I don't need to understand the game," and then spout off about a top-down design (when the game is in fact more of a decentralized design), shows that step one of your argument is flawed.

I am sorry but the inkblot is you not understanding that it is not decentralized in a technologically (and thus economically) useful way w.r.t. what technologically would drive a gaming ecosystem (on the diversity scale that is relevant to Bitcoin's scale), because it implausible for rpietila to understand the technological issues involved with doing so (because it is not his area of expertise, experience, and interests ... he is smart enough).

I don't need to study the game to know it is the case.

Please you wasted my time in the Steemit thread. And you are wasting precious time here with your inkblots. I have work to do. Don't you.

As for you repeated ink blot assessment of the art of the Denver Airport, you can go back to Michelangelo's giving the Pope the finger and a few other gems in his Sistine Chapel to show that no amount of spending, cajoling, or life threatening, can keep an artist from putting his or her own spin into a work

I never disagreed with that. But that doesn't mean there aren't some artists who would love to express a certain theme that just happens to coincide with the aims of someone who wants to fund it. Did you really think I thought Rothschild called up the artist and said, "paint the Economic Collapse Armageddon"? Obviously it was compartmentalization.

That particular artist had been painting those themes well before the Denver airport, which is probably why he was chosen. Duh.

That is not a logically valid retort against my claim that it is a ("fuck you", "nothing you can do about it", "enshrining our superiority", "subconscious demoralization", etc) message from the global elite.

There is no way you are able to put those sort of shocking images EXCLUSIVELY (no variety of themes) on a massive public works project with a transparent democratic process. And it is exceedingly unlikely it is random. Someone decided.

The inkblots are all yours because you are conflating orthogonal concerns.

The artist himself said things that undermine your argument (duh).
sr. member
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generalizethis, you debating me about technology ecosystems is as Dunning-Kruger if I tried to debate you about poetry and literature. Ditto if I tried to debate rpietila about strategies in games.

I know my limitations.
sr. member
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As soon as you say "I believe I don't need to understand the game," and then spout off about a top-down design (when the game is in fact more of a decentralized design), shows that step one of your argument is flawed.

I am sorry but the inkblot is you not understanding that it is not decentralized in a technologically (and thus economically) useful way w.r.t. what technologically would drive a gaming ecosystem (on the diversity scale that is relevant to Bitcoin's scale), because it implausible for rpietila to understand the technological issues involved with doing so (because it is not his area of expertise, experience, and interests ... he is smart enough).

I don't need to study the game to know it is the case.

Please you wasted my time in the Steemit thread. And you are wasting precious time here with your inkblots. I have work to do. Don't you.

As for you repeated ink blot assessment of the art of the Denver Airport, you can go back to Michelangelo's giving the Pope the finger and a few other gems in his Sistine Chapel to show that no amount of spending, cajoling, or life threatening, can keep an artist from putting his or her own spin into a work

I never disagreed with that. But that doesn't mean there aren't some artists who would love to express a certain theme that just happens to coincide with the aims of someone who wants to fund it. Did you really think I thought Rothschild called up the artist and said, "paint the Economic Collapse Armageddon"? Obviously it was compartmentalization.

That particular artist had been painting those themes well before the Denver airport, which is probably why he was chosen. Duh.

That is not a logically valid retort against my claim that it is a ("fuck you", "nothing you can do about it", "enshrining our superiority", "subconscious demoralization", etc) message from the global elite.

There is no way you are able to put those sort of shocking images EXCLUSIVELY (no variety of themes) on a massive public works project with a transparent democratic process. And it is exceedingly unlikely it is random. Someone decided.

The inkblots are all yours because you are conflating orthogonal concerns.
legendary
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My point is you don't even understand the game enough to comment on it.

I believe I don't need to understand the game to know that one person top-down managing an ecosystem does not scale and that economically subsumes your value of it as art. I understand that game ecosystems are more about the technological and economic platform, than about the insight held by the creator of the platform into the non-technical aspect of the design of games.

I also know that the art at Denver airport was financed by globalist sympathizers and thus reflects their vision of the future. Your value of the art aspect is orthogonal to my point. There is premeditated theme of the art, because you don't allow some random shit at a major infrastructure project and then randomly have it all adhere to a single diabolical theme. And in terms of understanding global economic politics and our collective future, my analysis of that subsumes your value of it as art. I might even appreciate the creativity of the art, but that is rather small value in comparison.

And I don't time to waste arguing with you.

As soon as you say "I believe I don't need to understand the game," and then spout off about a top-down design (when the game is in fact more of a decentralized design), shows that step one of your argument is flawed.

As for you repeated ink blot assessment of the art of the Denver Airport, you can go back to Michelangelo's giving the Pope the finger and a few other gems in his Sistine Chapel to show that no amount of spending, cajoling, or life threatening, can keep an artist from putting his or her own spin into a work, but we've had this argument before--so no point in you losing it a second time (both meanings implied in the last statement).

Ditto, but I'm bored and you went out of your way to start it Wink
sr. member
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My point is you don't even understand the game enough to comment on it.

I believe I don't need to understand the game to know that one person top-down managing an ecosystem does not scale and that economically subsumes your value of it as art. I understand that game ecosystems are more about the technological and economic platform, than about the insight held by the creator of the platform into the non-technical aspect of the design of games.

I also know that the art at Denver airport was financed by globalist sympathizers and thus reflects their vision of the future. Your value of the art aspect is orthogonal to my point. There is premeditated theme of the art, because you don't allow some random shit at a major infrastructure project and then randomly have it all adhere to a single diabolical theme. And in terms of understanding global economic politics and our collective future, my analysis of that subsumes your value of it as art. I might even appreciate the creativity of the art, but that is rather small value in comparison.

And I don't time to waste arguing with you.
legendary
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One game to fit them all is not the game plan. I think you miss that the game's market is the linchpin for success and it can be adapted to many styles and designs--even many coins.

You debated me on Steem and I was proven correct. Are you going to try to debate me again on technology ecosystems?


Sure, as long as we are going back in time, to drudge up past debates, we can go to your theory on the Denver Airport and see that my knowledge about art and grab-bag delusional psychology made you so mad that you swore you were done with BCT (again).

That's neither here nor there. My point is you don't even understand the game enough to comment on it. So either research it enough to where you can hold your end of an intelligent conversation or let it go. I don't think it's too much ask for someone to understand what they are attacking.
legendary
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Good God, wtf!? Can we please bury this thread in peace..?
sr. member
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One game to fit them all is not the game plan. I think you miss that the game's market is the linchpin for success and it can be adapted to many styles and designs--even many coins.

You debated me on Steem and I was proven correct. Are you going to try to debate me again on technology ecosystems?

Afaik, rpietila has about as much chance of understanding what technological aspects are required to create a diverse gaming ecosystem, as a flyweight boxer has odds of playing in the NFL. Mismatched skill set and physically implausible.

Edit: note rpietila is astute (more than me!) about playing games. But gaming ecosystems are not built just with knowledge about how to design games that are interesting to play. I am thinking it is more about enabling the creativity of others (game creators) and that includes both economic and technological components. Network effects are maximized by having no top-down involvement in what a diverse array of creators do.

Your third point about BTC's scale is non-statement--sure it could be this or that, but what is it, that's the important question. I've done my homework, but I guess you'll catch up when someone pokes the right button.

I speak of Bitcoin's scale in very a general conceptualization of decentralization of economic participation in the global society.
legendary
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The game is a work of art, monero hasn't even released a GUI and you are continuing in a long line of failure pronouncements

So you are saying that when Monero releases a GUI then Crypto Kingdom will become a game for the masses  Huh

As if one game fits all would ever be true.  Roll Eyes

It can be a work-of-art and still be not relevant on the scale of Bitcoin, which was my point.


I'm not conflating Monero's success with CK's success, MK would also fit in that picture as well as the game itself--the mechanisms for success are adaptable.

One game to fit them all is not the game plan. I think you miss that the game's market is the linchpin for success and it can be adapted to many styles and designs--even many coins.

Your third point about BTC's scale is non-statement--sure it could be this or that, but what is it, that's the important question. I've done my homework, but I guess you'll catch up when someone pokes the right button.
sr. member
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The game is a work of art, monero hasn't even released a GUI and you are continuing in a long line of failure pronouncements

So you are saying that when Monero releases a GUI then Crypto Kingdom will become a game for the masses  Huh

As if one-game-fits-all would ever be true.  Roll Eyes

It can be a work-of-art and still be not relevant on the scale of Bitcoin, which was my point.

rpietila was an up and coming whale in Bitcoin, but seems determined to make himself irrelevant at that scale. He is not keeping up with the Chinese afaics. I am trying to light a fire under his butt.

rpietila where is your competitive desire? Are you going to let the Chinese take the entire enchilada from the Westerners while you mire yourself in morass after morass. Or can you still compete.
legendary
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I clicked this thread because I wanted to see what rpietila might be commenting about the recent news that impacted the Bitcoin price. Then I see something about someone being drugged and murder threatened... so then I thought maybe this thread is some stupid TV drama which I don't have time to waste on...

rpietila, I don't have time to wander into reading about what is going on in Europe such as corrupt Finnish officials. Who cares! I don't know why you are wasting your time in the morass. The future is Asia. Why have you not gone East to a dynamic environment instead walling yourself into a castle in the dying Europe.

At least I have an excuse for my delirium because I am suffering liver disease due to some yet unknown destruction of my digestive system by a perforated ulcer. I have a valid excuse for sometimes not thinking clearly and being out-of-touch with reality.

But it seems to me you are doing it on purpose to yourself? I know you are a very smart man, but it seems you seek out and attract the flies and problems around yourself. You had that one success with the silver they impounded (with some thanks to me for suggesting you sell the impounded silver!) and now seem to relish the role of the victim in a dysfunctional collapsing Europe. I would much rather be the productive person in the dynamic economy.

FWIW, I see no point in building more problems around myself. I have enough already.

The solutions going forward are not fighting that which is broken, but routing around them entirely as the broken systems  implode. You were given talents (capital) and the opportunity to fund or speculate in great technical work (or results if you prefer), and instead you bought a castle (which you know I pleaded with you not to do) and creating what seem to me to be delusional tangents which aren't aligned with the fundamental decentralization concept of what made Bitcoin a phenomenon. The Parable of the Talents implores you to not bury your talents in the ground. I have no idea if you've been successfully speculating with your crypto-currency, or throwing it down rat holes.

I predict you will become irrelevant (on the scale of Bitcoin) if you continue this direction of actively seeking failure. You might be relevant on some scale within Europe's morass, if that is what you prefer.

You know I tried to allude to this in a private message recently. So it isn't like I am wanting to attack you in public. I consider you my friend (or at least a business acquaintance) from before and I don't see the rationality in what you've been doing ever since you got wealthy on Bitcoin. First you created a massive bubble in XMR advising all the n00bs to buy hand and fist. That was after your laptop was hacked because you left it at the pool. And then apparently committed to a mental institution. And then some Crypto Kingdom game which afaik is entirely irrelevant on any scale of significance to humanity. And now I am reading all this strange stuff. There was that cryptography forum you created with this circle of circle jerking backslappers that seem to whorship you, which I got banned from because I tried to tell them frankly. Etc...

Matthew 7 applies and I am confident someone could write disparaging details about my life also. Just out-of-concern for you, I try to slap you and wake you up from what seems to me to be delusion.

If you could have slapped me in July 2012 and convinced me to not lose $75,000 on some stupid speculation following a newsletter writer, then my health problem would probably have been fixed years ago. Sometimes that is what friends are for.

The game is a work of art, monero hasn't even released a GUI and you are continuing in a long line of failure pronouncements without ever beginning anything yourself (at least not recently)--just because you are good at talking yourself out of doing, doesn't mean the rest of us have to roll over and play dead. Dude, I think of you as a friend and acknowledge your brilliance, but if you can't see a pattern to your online life, then you haven't been tending to your own house.
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