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I'm not talking about his blog. I am talking about him bringing that stuff here to a speculation forum. I think his efforts here are a net negative.

If you asked me a year ago what political group I associated with I would have told you I was a progressive.
I was most certainly not a libertarian or even a conservative. I was a full out far left liberal.
Now my views have taken an hard 180 degree turn a massive lurch to the right. I am not an anarchist, but my sympathies are now much much closer to anarchism.

AnonyMint's work especially his his outstanding outside writings (those not published on this forum) highlighted in the Economic Devastation thread helped me see the big picture. I had a number of the pieces floating around in my head already. I knew something was wrong with my worldview but had not figured out how to put the puzzle pieces together. I like to think I would have figured it out on my own eventually. However, I was starting from such an erroneous starting point that putting it all together without an outside catalyst would have taken me years at best.  For me AnonyMint's writings served as that catalyst. I am certain that I in turn will act as a similar catalyst for others.

In short, I profoundly and completely disagree with your statements above.

believe in EW patterns or no, this chart fits one perfectly.

not all movements can be described by EW, indeed not many accurately, but when shit hits the fan, natural forces play out very clearly, such as in this case.

Consider 465 a very significant bottom. I will not dare to say that it will not be broken, but weather the price passes that point is critical in knowing what the state of sentiment is.

yesterday, bearish panic sellers were exhausted at 465, after already huge volume was traded down to 3000 Yuan. Unless the chart is rudely interrupted by news again, this consolidation we should expect to last for another day, reaching mid 500s, if consolidation it indeed be.

Doesnt matter who you thought did it, 9/11 was a conspiracy by definition.

the building imploded without being hit by a plane. is that really suspicious in a 'terrorist' attack? no, they could plant bombs.

What is suspicious, is why the US officials are not open to discussion of this subject. why do they bash the engineers that disprove their theoroies. The US has thus been exposed.

Although the exact identities of the 'terrorists' will never be known for sure, so the US government may as well have nodded along to theories about planned demolition.

I am ignored when I post EW analysis here, but I gotta say, the junctures are playing out just as I am expecting.

who expected that massive buy order out of nowhere just there? me.

This analysis is based on fundamentals, not technicals. once you have the sentiment, it is useless unless you know it has been acted upon and spent.

These irrational forces play out the same every time, panic selling is as old as the hills. that is EW analysis

watch out for the bulls today.

aminorex, compliments to your superior communication skills. Okay back to TA now. I am done. Thanks for the discussion all.


What do you do when you can't do anything without harming someone. It is impossible to never harm someone due to the Butterfly effect. You are basically asking for gridlock and communism.

I call BS on that. Although your intentions are good, the recurrent outcome of your stated ideology is horrific genocide which is the antithesis of your intention. As far as I can see, the Bible doesn't talk about not harming (although harming shouldn't be and helping should be an individualized goal but not a global requirement, e.g. I can help someone individually whose situation I know), rather it pushes the value of individualism and focusing on what you can do rather than judging others (c.f. Matthew 7). The point of the 10 Commandments is that individualism is destroyed by disrespecting property rights. Then you need a government (idol) to enforce (collective) theft.

When the Bible says there is only one King and only one law, what it means is a one-on-one relationship between you and your creator (c.f. Matthew 6:5). For scientists and atheists, let's look at this from the perspective of knowledge spawns accretively from individual fitness to individual situations. I got more in depth on this when I was working out the type theory of computer languages (yeah I know you wonder what in the heck would type theory have to do it). Here is the link:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/scala-debate/vysv97J0xok/ikiNtik33QsJ

If one did not exist by design, it would arise by an evolutionary process.  It is an ecological niche in ideological space, and a rich one.  It will necessarily be filled.

Also, you overstate the case to create a strawman.  No actors need more than a short planning horizon in order for a community to persist. 

Clearly there are open conspiracies of vast scope which have been enormously successful for millennia.,  Why should there not be some which are clandestine, perforce, since their culture, their deeds, are so offensive to the mainstream that they would be destroyed but for stealth?

Clearly there are also many spurious, fantastical, or perhaps supernatural, conspiracies for which no material evidence will ever be provided, and thus which do not positivistically exist.  But the historical evidence of many conspiratorial communities is abundant, and among them some are persistent.  The degree of coordination among them is probably not great.

Supporters of a depopulationist agenda will act according to that agenda, whether by plan or by coincidence.  No conspiratorial hypthesis is required in order to oppose them in that agenda.

Suggestion to re-read my prior post as I added to it.


I don't hate individual Chinese people (I really love interacting with all people if they are fun or interesting in spite of any ideological differences unless those interfere with the fun and personal exchange). I hate the collective ideology pervasive in their society now, idolizing that the collective can be great. And I hate Western society for the same reasons (but it doesn't mean I don't partake of for example pizza or facilities provided by society, don't conflate please). And I see parallels in your thinking wherein you think the collective can be helped in some idealistic way by Bitcoin, i.e. you idolize Bitcoin.

Remember the collective can never be great because it is not a one-on-one relationship with God. For the atheists, I mean to say that knowledge is always individualized.

Remember my upthread point about distinction between technology adopted individually versus collectively, e.g. washing machines versus nuclear power.

Perhaps you've misinterpreted the Bible on this.

Exactly my thoughts, I think we will bottom in the $250-$300 range just above the April 2013 top, a golden buying opportunity.

Interesting breakdown on how you see things.

Could it be even more simple than that?  Perhaps there are just two "economies." God's economy or Satan's economy?

I do like your comment that "Everything God does is true and if He inspires people, it is also true."  God is for truth and justice and wants us to love each other.  The reason he hates sin so much is sin really is anything that causes harm to others.  So if we really all truly loved God and did not Sin we would do what it best for everyone around us.  If leaders loved God they would do the same for those that they were leading and so on.  What is Satan's main goal?  He wants us to love ourselves.  Selfishness is his main goal.  It causes harm to others.  So I guess I see it more black and white.  Sure there are "shades of gray" in that sometimes we have to check our own motives and ask which side are we really on.

Would you post pictures of the renovation? I think this would do a lot of increase interest and make people even more curious to see it in person.

I have a manor that we will develop to be a self-sufficient 5 star Bitcoin conference spa hotel Herzlich willkommen everybody to see the place and stay a few nights starting from approx. August when we get some rooms ready!

I am thinking of perhaps writing a longer post about it, but lets say the ascending order of truthfulness goes like this:

0. Depopulationists. Everything they do is evil and a lie, and the ultimate source is Satan.

1. Statists and criminals. They are wrong and unjust.

2. Libertarians. They are not right, but at least they don't harm others.

3. God's economy. Everything God does is true and if He inspires people, it is also true.

Note that a person can change domain, for example Snowden was working with the depopulationists (0), but decided that it is not fitting and wanted himself and the world to be more free (2). Now he is protected by Russian government (1). Whether Snowden's actions were from the Spirit of God (3) remains to be seen in the next age.

So I understand that you "hate" Chinese as they are statist and infiltrated by NWO. Your level is higher. Did I do sth wrong?

“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."

Always good advice 

It doesn't matter the result is the same regardless. The top-down system is how I described and the people are slaves and commit to things that enslave them more.

The propaganda is actually in control. The purveyors of it adjust as needed over 100s of years to keep the masses confused. The purveyors compete with each other and get replaced by those who can deceive better in each new epoch.

Think about it like this. The purveyors of the propaganda don't have to be omniscient about the future, they can change the propaganda at will.

Example is their global warming temperature predictions utterly failed, so now they are changing the propaganda to "man-made climate change" and trying to blame global cooling on it.

The conspiracy is not a grand one of being able to predict the future, rather it is the power vacuum of top-down control and the ability of propaganda to defeat propaganda.

Truth is never going to win for the collective.

Truth and knowledge are an individualized phenomenon. Refer to the "Information Is Alive!" blog entry you can find from the link on my signature.

There isn't one truth, rather everyone's truth is customized to their situation.

Thus collective anything will always be a destruction of individual fitness.

This is why anonymity is so crucial. We used to have it with cash and postal mail, now we are losing it.

I have explained for the atheists why top-down is always the property of who can make the best propaganda to control the masses.

Let me explain it to Risto (since he is a Christian) with scripture so that he might understand.

Revelation 18:4


John 15:19


Romans 12:2


Revelation 20:4



Risto there is a distinction between helping people and trying to overrule God's will w.r.t. to the masses. Again I refer you to read 1 Samuel 8 and 1 Samuel 15 wherein it is clear the masses will always be deceived by government and be destroyed by war as a result.

If you think you can change that, then you are not accepting God's will.

Actually for the atheists, no need scriptures to understand this is just a natural outcome of the only way the universe could exist. My blog linked on my signature gets into this, as well I expounded in some posts on various threads on bitcointalk.

Again, TV is about ratings and profits. Not about power. To the extent its used for power, it is a tactic.

I am talking about the free world, not communist states. But even in communists states with access to the internet, government TV is not considered the legitimate source.

+1

Nice posts windjc!  Well said.  

contrarily, in a world where information dissemination is easier and cheaper than ever before, but a small few control the spigot, propaganda is that much more powerful.

proprietized media like TV is an excellent example of this. a cabal of wealthy movie producers, news channel operators, and advertising giants control the majority of the content that is gluttonously spewed into the the minds of millions daily, reinforcing ideological precedents that perpetuate class, race, gender, and other inequalities, and marginalizing radical ideologies by controlling the ratios of exposure, and by negative framing.

the internet may be a step in the right direction, but until it fully supplants TV as the king of media dissemination, and unless the tactics used by interested parties like JTRIG and the NSA that are destructive to open discourse are successfully combated, the information age will be synonymous with the age of propaganda.

--arepo