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This is 100% correct.

Are there false flag events,behind doors conspiracies and all kind of other evil doings like Anonymint suggests ?  Sure there are.
Are there people in the "elites"  that think they are smart enough and strong enough to do some of these things? Sure.

But a worldwide global conspiracy run buy a small group of people capable of long term thinking and execution of a plan ( 100 years ?). No.

Risto don't you know that propaganda defeats propaganda.

This statement is false.

The masses are so confused and will always be.

Buzz me when you grow up.  

(no offense brother, but you drank too much socialist Koolaid, I detected it in you when we were Skyping about China and you got offended when I said they are still Communists. I don't hate Chinese, I hate the ideology of State control and the common Chinese inspiration of a "better society" from it).

Yeah, but societies are becoming less and less easily manipulated with the information age. However, in parts of the world where they are cut off propaganda works.

But AnonyMint is so wrong on so many levels. Its really a world driven by profits not power.

Power is useless without the freedom to enjoy profits. Profits provide the power to live life on your own terms.

There is no grand conspiracy of suppression, only a fight for "security". That fight has been going on since man became man.

No, you don't

Propagation speed of truthful information and how it replaces the depopulationist lies, similarly discrediting all the depopulationist mindset.

Freedom people are able to conspire in the open, because they do good, whereas depopulationists must conspire in secret, because their actions are bad and are opposed if noticed.

Depopulationists are more stupid because they believe some of their own lies, poison themselves with fluoride, etc.

Because the "elite" (people directly controlled by Satan) consists of a few hundred people max, and the others are only tools for them, they can never be sure to retain control. By taking away the monopoly to generate money, they wither and die. Large arms of executive power such as the U.S. govt may revolt and join us, and several presidents have proposed this and have been assassinated. Every such act heaps ill will towards them and it does not go away with time in the Internet era. Ah, they are almost lost already. Why are we even bothering?

What do you do? Tell us!

My supposition is you do absolutely nothing. Prove me wrong.

Come on! Champion your cause. Give us some real meat and inspiration. Us beta-males, we feast off of inspiration. That is how governments control us. Take control of us and show us how much you do. What your strategies for liberation are.

But above all, please do not give us stale dribble about ghosts that haunt and manipulation our dreams.

Nice post windjc. Still you forgot one key word: Propaganda, which was born from a military regime, is so effective that it's seldom needed to resort to brute force

How can you accuse me of not taking action? Can you see what is on my computers, especially the one with an air gap (not connected to the internet)?

Why is it that logical facts that threaten your delusion is "paranoia". This is the mentality that makes you a slave.

Why is it I have to destroy my anonymity (you know who I am, but you don't know what is on my computers) and ruin my project just to appease your lack of understanding of how such action must come about.

Try to think it out a bit. Do you always need a comfort blanket to hold your hand. How would you survive in the wild? You would learn to be a man.

The sad thing about you is that you are the actual slave. A slave to your own paranoid mind. If you were a true "activist" you would not be spending your time on this message board ranting away. You would actually take "action."

The most ironic thing is if anything you mention was actually true, the only way to solve it would be to create counter strategies and put them into immediate ACTION. Yet, you do the exact opposite. You just type away on a keyboard on a trading speculation forum and preach with condescension. Although you do nothing in the way of championing a cause, instead you actually turn people away, in the small miniscule effect that you do have.

But, in regards to macro change, you do nothing. Absolutely nothing.

In totality you have a small negative affect on the causes you say are so important to you.

And lucky for them most people are easily deceived like you, despite historic records showing that Pearl Harbor was a false-flag planned to get USA isolationists into supporting the war.

Despite the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 was a false-flag to launch all this tracking of everyone's wealth for the big $223 trillion debt implosion coming.

Despite the copious evidence that Anthony Sutton provided (see video below to educate yourself):


Carry on slave, there is nothing I can do to help someone like you.

The problem with people like you are that almost all your theories assume one blatant falsehood - that there are super intelligent, cunning, strategic, and complex humans that pull the strings on society in some elaborate and complex ways.

When, in fact, people in "power" are mere mortals, individuals who are really more obsessed with daily issues in front of their faces, than sitting in some secret boardroom trying to devise the next sinister plot to control the world.

People with extreme wealth are not particulary intelligent. They are not particularly great at innovation, including the kind that would lead to complex social manipulation of masses.

People in power - elected officials or in communist states - inherited officials - or in military states - military officials - all 3 categories are unique and have unique skill sets that allow them to hold "power." Of the three, only military officials have any real skill at social manipulation, that being brute force. It is more of a tactical power than a strategic one, which is why military leaders are often the shortest lived regimes.

There are, instead, simply systems that have been created over the years as humans have fought for more "security" (another basic need) that now enable certain classes to have advantages over others. This is kind of a economic darwinian evolution of sorts. But the players who take advantage of these systems today act much more out of tactics than strategy.

And you give them WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT.

This wakes up the masses. They operate by more subtle means of deception, e.g. Bitcoin. The trick is to have people enslave themselves without knowing it. This is how the elite avoid losing their heads and retain control. Chaotic uprisings are very risky for them. They prefer nationalistic pride wars, where the foolish masses believe they are fighting for something justified (e.g. see the posters from WW2 in the USA, "let's go finish off them japs" and of course it was a false-flag honey pot trap called Pearl Harbor that caused the Americans to think this way).



The foolish white males think they are fighting for something justified with Bitcoin, while they've been deceived and are doing the elite's desired outcome.

The new memes include fighting for feminism, fighting for the environment, etc.. You see how offended this makes you feel when I say this? Because you are a slave who stopped applying the scientific method (for if you did you would understand certain natural facts) and replaced it with top-down controlled emotional propaganda.


No need to write more. You don't understand.

Did someone on this thread actually use the term "beat-males" and "resist me" in the same sentence?

Ha. That's funny.

Agreed we shouldn't drop it. We must push on and continue to improve our technological options. And Bitcoin serves an important function even if there were other options, e.g. it drives market awareness and provides a liquid unit-of-exchange for investors in the ecosystem including altcoins. This is a dynamic system. I am arguing to be open to the dynamism in spite of the lack of serious altcoins to date. There isn't only one scenario (false prophets lead you to that wrong conclusion). And it doesn't mean no one will retain some gains from the mess. As they say, "don't put all your eggs in one basket".

To win, we need the antithesis of top-down thinking, e.g. stop this monotonic thinking that we need one unit-of-exchange to get global economies-of-scale. The goal should be more akin to the bimetallic standard, a bifurcation (or perhaps multifurcation) is much more dynamic and dynamism is our strong hand against top-down control (read at my signature why top-down control can't anneal). Whether it happened by chance or was planned, Litecoin is a weak silver to Bitcoin's gold, i.e. it doesn't offer the common man some compelling strengths.

Peace.

Straying from topic, but you started it

   Self-sufficiency is very important. It is also important for those of us with the resources and vision to also prepare on the behalf of those worthy contributors to society that lack either vision or resources. People with practical skills and minds have significant value to society (survival, prosperity of all) even if they lack the foresight or resources to prepare for what is likely coming. Some can be woken with no more than a nudge and an internet link, but even those unwilling to look may be solid contributors in future. Sure, there are plenty of parasites out there, with little to contribute in any way, but a good number of the sheep are still required. Make sure to include a few in your preparations!

Everyone is a slave of something. You are the slave of what you give your attention to.
I am not resisting your thoughts. And I am interested to hear about the right technology that would "break us free".
I think it is true that thinking that bitcoin will save the world is most likely deluded thinking. I certainly see bitcoin as just another way to trap and enslave. But is there reasons to hope for an adoption of a technology that frees the masses ? The masses will manifest / adopt the technology that is fit for their level of understanding / consciousness - not more. If it is low, then there will always be some form of malicious power that will exploit it. It is simply resonant with low consciousness of the masses and no effort of trying to educate people will change that. What are the smart warnings about the technology going to do ? And what do you advise the "white males" to do in regards to the development of bitcoin ? Just observe rather than adopt ? Not participating in the rise ? At least to a certain level ? Isn't FIAT possession as much of a trap and potential for easy confiscation as bitcoin participation ?

About anonymity, is it not anonymous to transact only through localbitcoins ?

I think it's good to drop the sweet dreams about "helping the world" or freedom from government and power abuse. I think it's good to be aware that this is all some form of trap or another, like more or less everything in this material life. But does it mean we should just drop it ?

and i give a +1 to Mr Anonymint.
cant fight NWO indeed.
we're all fools.
but happy fools living the bitcoin dream.

You are right that the depopulationists are utterly evil and are scheming evil things, and try to keep their grip on the armies and institutions of the so-called free world (in reality the least free part of world) so that they can enforce calamities to every thinking person on earth (lead by the same demographic that owns bitcoins). But I think it is a fantasy that bitcoins could be twisted to be net-negative to the freedom of the people, proven as follows:

- If the depopulationists ("TPTB") have enough power to finish off the intelligentsia, they don't need bitcoin to do it. Every totalitarian regime has found a way to quickly sanitize the population, fully without bitcoins, facebooks or anything. Just set quotas for the local psycho-sociopathic sheriff and go.
- If they do not have the power for draconian activities, then targeting bitcoin owners does not give them much, but is a very great thing for the freedom people who get to tighten their ranks and perhaps wake up more and more people down the road.

No matter how I think about it, it looks like that the depopulationists have lost. I will have to write more about it for you to understand it, but currently we should resist them (which unfortunately overtly means resisting the government in many places, because they have usurped the government and lawlessly rule) but not attack openly. It is most important to keep the sustenance for human life - clean water, organic food, basic skills for building shelter, right to bear arms, raise animals, cultivate land, heat your house, etc. The depopulationists try to make it as difficult as possible for people to take care of themselves.

Soooo, what is the alternative? DE? Or is there any other thread you are working on?

Regarding below 500 btc sale: easter sale is coming. Maybe we can get a bunny with each coin 

P.S. I stand by my expectation of a revisit to $400 and probably a bottom under $300. The chart resembles silver's fall. Why? Because pigs get slaughtered in permabull markets (of tinfoil hat white males) where everyone wants to buy always.

All the things I've been warning about have come true.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/28/bitcoin_china_pboc_ban/


Scenario analysis forward is there is a possibility that offchain services will increase mass adoption of Bitcoin. They might lobby the government for say an exclusion to capital gains for up to say $600 per year of gains due to transactions or say up to $100 per transaction. In return, they would offer the government regulators control over the offchain solvency. This could come in stages as Bitcoin transitions from an ideal of non-fiat, on chain currency to an offchain, fiat currency.

The early adopters will not gain from this (see quote below). The institutional players will. These white beta-males will be slaughtered once again by the collective system. The institutional players know how the game is played to manipulate the masses to the desired outcome so that control remains in the elite hierarchy.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/27/obama-lagarde-destroying-the-world-economy-a-lethal-combination/


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/24/the-real-conspiracy-the-imf-tax-agenda/



The point I am making is that when you are isolated from the masses and identified doing some financial transactions, you are the first ones Hitler goes after because the masses will not complain, especially given that you are doing drug trading!

Just see that image of Risto upthread that makes him look bad. Whether you are bad is irrelevant. You can be associated with the drugs by implication and the mass politics will says "yes going after those cheats and evil do-ers".

You see the elite can turn you into the bad guys in the eyes of the masses, you white male unconformists. Then the elite can say, "those Bitcoiners who are not evil will prove it by registering and holding balances in the regulated offchain services".

You see there is no chance in hell of winning against the elite for as long as they can identify who you are.

The only way the rebels ever win is by guerrilla warfare wherein they can't be targeted.

There is probably more that I could say to make this more convincing, but let me close by saying...

I am not a slave. Join with me if you want to win.

I won't be holding your hand advising you when and what to do. You won't even hear from me. But I will silently be making sure the technology is correct.

I would love to see us take the internet back. I believe "we" will win, where the "we" are those who adopt the very high tech solutions.

I doubt any more talk will be effective. I am confident that soon others will be talking on my behalf. Those who want to win will hopefully hear. Good luck to everyone, including my detractors (peace).

Thanks. I have seen this in other threads but was too busy to give the credit to where it is due!