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November 09, 2023, 02:12:35 AM
So at the very least, US meddled in the Ukrainian 2014 coup, and secretary general of NATO is on record saying that war started in 2014 and NATO has been arming Ukraine since then, even pope said that Ukraine war was ‘perhaps somehow provoked’ but if we close our eyes, ignore everything that doesn't line up with our agenda, start looking at the conflict in vacuum starting from 2022, endlessly repeat that Putin is the aggressor perhaps with enough iterations someone will start to actually believe this, or at the very least we further convince ourselves of this.

Actually none of what you said justifies the invasion. If Ukrainians had attacked Kursk region in February 2022 and killed 1000+ Russian civilians in farms and concerts then I could at least see how one could come up with some sort of comparison between Gaza and Ukraine... except in your parallel universe both Gaza AND Russia are the good guys LOL. Looks like you're... what's the Russian saying, stretching an owl over a globe?

Indeed, only those zombified by Russian propaganda can justify the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There was no reason to start this war. Ukraine did not threaten russia in any way. They invented a story about the nazis in Ukraine, but in reality the nazis are the Russian leadership that kills peaceful people and the russians themselves who support this war, and every time they rejoice when they hear about another victim among the civilian population of Ukraine
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November 08, 2023, 09:48:11 PM
So at the very least, US meddled in the Ukrainian 2014 coup, and secretary general of NATO is on record saying that war started in 2014 and NATO has been arming Ukraine since then, even pope said that Ukraine war was ‘perhaps somehow provoked’ but if we close our eyes, ignore everything that doesn't line up with our agenda, start looking at the conflict in vacuum starting from 2022, endlessly repeat that Putin is the aggressor perhaps with enough iterations someone will start to actually believe this, or at the very least we further convince ourselves of this.

Actually none of what you said justifies the invasion. If Ukrainians had attacked Kursk region in February 2022 and killed 1000+ Russian civilians in farms and concerts then I could at least see how one could come up with some sort of comparison between Gaza and Ukraine... except in your parallel universe both Gaza AND Russia are the good guys LOL. Looks like you're... what's the Russian saying, stretching an owl over a globe?



Even Americans say if China did in Mexico what USA did in Ukraine, USA would immediately attack Mexico


https://www.newsweek.com/why-its-us-interest-support-israel-not-ukraine-opinion-1841573

"Just for a minute imagine if an elected Mexican president was replaced in an anti-American coup supported by China,
and then the new regime sought a military alliance with China. Washington would react in very much the same way Moscow did."

Really?

https://static.poder360.com.br/2022/02/2014-Coup-1.pdf
https://bitterwinter.org/myth-of-american-coups-in-ukraine-3-euromaidan/
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November 08, 2023, 07:16:43 PM
Even Americans say if China did in Mexico what USA did in Ukraine, USA would immediately attack Mexico

And I bet you would fully support "USA" in that scenario just like you're supporting Putin now, right?

Either that or you're again posting random garbage you find on the intertubes without spending five seconds thinking about it.
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November 08, 2023, 06:40:05 PM
Urozayna is about to be liberated.

So at the very least, US meddled in the Ukrainian 2014 coup, and secretary general of NATO is on record saying that war started in 2014 and NATO has been arming Ukraine since then, even pope said that Ukraine war was ‘perhaps somehow provoked’ but if we close our eyes, ignore everything that doesn't line up with our agenda, start looking at the conflict in vacuum starting from 2022, endlessly repeat that Putin is the aggressor perhaps with enough iterations someone will start to actually believe this, or at the very least we further convince ourselves of this.

Actually none of what you said justifies the invasion. If Ukrainians had attacked Kursk region in February 2022 and killed 1000+ Russian civilians in farms and concerts then I could at least see how one could come up with some sort of comparison between Gaza and Ukraine... except in your parallel universe both Gaza AND Russia are the good guys LOL. Looks like you're... what's the Russian saying, stretching an owl over a globe?



Even Americans say if China did in Mexico what USA did in Ukraine, USA would immediately attack Mexico


https://www.newsweek.com/why-its-us-interest-support-israel-not-ukraine-opinion-1841573

"Just for a minute imagine if an elected Mexican president was replaced in an anti-American coup supported by China,
and then the new regime sought a military alliance with China. Washington would react in very much the same way Moscow did."


Who in the US says that? There are millions of people in the US, you probably can find one that fully supports your bullshit.

 For example, this article simply states many of the (wrong) points of the Trumpists, not a problem of "the US", like "it is ok to let Ruzzia grab as much as they want", "Ukraine is to blame because they choose to make Ruzzia angry", "this war has no consequence for the US".... all false arguments:

Ukraine is a free and recognised country, no, it is not ok to land-grab from internationally recognised nations, the US has a stake on Ukraine, because letting Ukraine fail will bring more wars in the future and possible a return to the cold war. And Ruzzia has already interfered in the elections in the US and UK and other countries and nobody has invaded  them.

On top of that, it is interesting to see that whoever said that considers that the US can choose the government of Mexico.

However this is interesting...
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The effort to untie the two wars will likely not survive in the Senate;

It is interesting that even this journalist has the clarity to at least see that.

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No doubt, President Biden will get the funds he has requested for both Ukraine and Israel; there is no safer bet in Washington than that requests for increased military funding will be honored.
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November 08, 2023, 05:44:43 PM
So at the very least, US meddled in the Ukrainian 2014 coup, and secretary general of NATO is on record saying that war started in 2014 and NATO has been arming Ukraine since then, even pope said that Ukraine war was ‘perhaps somehow provoked’ but if we close our eyes, ignore everything that doesn't line up with our agenda, start looking at the conflict in vacuum starting from 2022, endlessly repeat that Putin is the aggressor perhaps with enough iterations someone will start to actually believe this, or at the very least we further convince ourselves of this.

Actually none of what you said justifies the invasion. If Ukrainians had attacked Kursk region in February 2022 and killed 1000+ Russian civilians in farms and concerts then I could at least see how one could come up with some sort of comparison between Gaza and Ukraine... except in your parallel universe both Gaza AND Russia are the good guys LOL. Looks like you're... what's the Russian saying, stretching an owl over a globe?



Even Americans say if China did in Mexico what USA did in Ukraine, USA would immediately attack Mexico


https://www.newsweek.com/why-its-us-interest-support-israel-not-ukraine-opinion-1841573

"Just for a minute imagine if an elected Mexican president was replaced in an anti-American coup supported by China,
and then the new regime sought a military alliance with China. Washington would react in very much the same way Moscow did."
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November 08, 2023, 03:07:38 PM
So at the very least, US meddled in the Ukrainian 2014 coup, and secretary general of NATO is on record saying that war started in 2014 and NATO has been arming Ukraine since then, even pope said that Ukraine war was ‘perhaps somehow provoked’ but if we close our eyes, ignore everything that doesn't line up with our agenda, start looking at the conflict in vacuum starting from 2022, endlessly repeat that Putin is the aggressor perhaps with enough iterations someone will start to actually believe this, or at the very least we further convince ourselves of this.

Actually none of what you said justifies the invasion. If Ukrainians had attacked Kursk region in February 2022 and killed 1000+ Russian civilians in farms and concerts then I could at least see how one could come up with some sort of comparison between Gaza and Ukraine... except in your parallel universe both Gaza AND Russia are the good guys LOL. Looks like you're... what's the Russian saying, stretching an owl over a globe?
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November 08, 2023, 02:45:34 PM
One nation just gets to decide if and how another nation gets to participate in global trade. But you are technically correct, if you try to bring medicine into Cuba not cleared by US, US navy will not shoot you down now. They'll sanction you and everyone up the chain, including distributors up to and including the manufacturer of said medicine, essentially bankrupting everyone. So not a military blockade, just a financial one. Same results, different wording.

So once again good ol' American exceptionalism, so US has been doing this for 60years even during the time of peace, whole world has been against it for 31yrs now, but of course we all are activated  to suddenly care very deeply about Ukrainian freedoms Roll Eyes, and surely a good place to remedy this after it's has been going on for 60yrs, would be to start with...Russia during its current ongoing conflict, the biggest offender right?

Taking this even further they're now trying to set a precedent that even straight up blockading food, energy and fuel (effectively disabling all hospitals) to a whole region, is apparently now is not a war crime, as long as that nation still has military which uses fuel and food (which technically military cannot exist without). Seems like Ukraine abstained from telling Israel to fuck off on that too now, but let's all close our eyes on this one too and only get activated and take a position when someone who you don't support does it right? Pretty much the definition of a double standards, but who cares about rules and laws now.

Ability to export goods for financial benefit during the conflict is the least of my concerns. But for the record I'm against cutting power and not allowing inspected fuel (through red cross or similar) to power the hospital generators (even if military might still have some fuel!), regardless if it's in Gaza or in Ukraine.

Are we playing the contrived questions game or the florid walls of text game?

Not sure why you're still yapping about Cuba, even after you quoted something about the embargo not achieving its objectives. Then Gaza. Can't stay on topic? Might it have something to do with the fact that Putin is the aggressor in this context? So you desperately need to find something else to justify the genocidal gnome? What happened to the whole "human shield" thing, suffering a bit of amnesia here, aren't you?


There's really no need to reply just to admit that you don't have the attention span to follow few paragraphs, or that you cannot follow logic that requires more than 2 hops. Simply just say ELI5, and i'll try to simplify things further for you.

So at the very least, US meddled in the Ukrainian 2014 coup, and secretary general of NATO is on record saying that war started in 2014 and NATO has been arming Ukraine since then, even pope said that Ukraine war was ‘perhaps somehow provoked’ but if we close our eyes, ignore everything that doesn't line up with our agenda, start looking at the conflict in vacuum starting from 2022, endlessly repeat that Putin is the aggressor perhaps with enough iterations someone will start to actually believe this, or at the very least we further convince ourselves of this.
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November 07, 2023, 08:40:39 PM
One nation just gets to decide if and how another nation gets to participate in global trade. But you are technically correct, if you try to bring medicine into Cuba not cleared by US, US navy will not shoot you down now. They'll sanction you and everyone up the chain, including distributors up to and including the manufacturer of said medicine, essentially bankrupting everyone. So not a military blockade, just a financial one. Same results, different wording.

So once again good ol' American exceptionalism, so US has been doing this for 60years even during the time of peace, whole world has been against it for 31yrs now, but of course we all are activated  to suddenly care very deeply about Ukrainian freedoms Roll Eyes, and surely a good place to remedy this after it's has been going on for 60yrs, would be to start with...Russia during its current ongoing conflict, the biggest offender right?

Taking this even further they're now trying to set a precedent that even straight up blockading food, energy and fuel (effectively disabling all hospitals) to a whole region, is apparently now is not a war crime, as long as that nation still has military which uses fuel and food (which technically military cannot exist without). Seems like Ukraine abstained from telling Israel to fuck off on that too now, but let's all close our eyes on this one too and only get activated and take a position when someone who you don't support does it right? Pretty much the definition of a double standards, but who cares about rules and laws now.

Ability to export goods for financial benefit during the conflict is the least of my concerns. But for the record I'm against cutting power and not allowing inspected fuel (through red cross or similar) to power the hospital generators (even if military might still have some fuel!), regardless if it's in Gaza or in Ukraine.

Are we playing the contrived questions game or the florid walls of text game?

Not sure why you're still yapping about Cuba, even after you quoted something about the embargo not achieving its objectives. Then Gaza. Can't stay on topic? Might it have something to do with the fact that Putin is the aggressor in this context? So you desperately need to find something else to justify the genocidal gnome? What happened to the whole "human shield" thing, suffering a bit of amnesia here, aren't you?
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November 07, 2023, 06:45:47 PM
Keep up the propaganda, maybe the fact that Ukraine has attacked the airbase at Taganrog will go unnoticed. Ruzzia says the missiles or whatever was intercepted as usual, the target probably the airbase where the helicopters have now been sent.

What's new on this... well, Taganrog is in Ruzzia.

It seems that near the dnipro more Ukrainian forces are achieving a degree of advance, nothing serious - not yet anyway. be.open, this is not for you to react, it is for the general information of anyone who reads around here.


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And not just Russia, China has been doing exactly that as well. That's the problem of letting the precedents slide and only addressing them when someone else does it, oh they did it too? then lets start with them, logic. Calling wars "operations", having PMCs, and now China can fully blockade Taiwan (until Taiwanese military gave up all of their food, water and fuel) and apparently that wont be a war crime now.

Nothing new.
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November 07, 2023, 03:21:03 PM
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^^^ The interesting thing is that Russians are not stupid. Their people are watching everything that the American military does. Then they copy and improve... if they don't happen to already have something better.

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And not just Russia, China has been doing exactly that as well. That's the problem of letting the precedents slide and only addressing them when someone else does it, oh they did it too? then lets start with them, logic. Calling wars "operations", having PMCs, and now China can fully blockade Taiwan (until Taiwanese military gave up all of their food, water and fuel) and apparently that wont be a war crime now.

Right!

And the really bad part is BRICS... with Argentina already added, and like forty other nations applying.

BRICS might be taking a while to settle in together. But the settle-in time is giving them more opportunity to work out all kinds of little details. They will be stronger than ever when they get done.

Will the US ever realize that BRICS won't be about money once it is fully formed? When will they see that BRICS is ultimately about taking over the world?

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November 07, 2023, 02:41:06 PM
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.

I think that the articles themselves are more related to selling newspapers than providing a honest depiction of the Ukrainian government working and state of things. Ukraine is simply requesting a honest support from the US. Not "just enough to hold" which seems to be what the US is doing right now. I am quite convinced that if the US wanted they would push much harder, but they are quite happy seeing the Ruzzian army burn through their stockpiles, which would not happen if the war was clearly in favour of one of the parts.

I am not sure US is measuring clearly the problems that Ukraine is facing.

It's quiet astonishing watching you finally come to this realization that US is just using Ukraine to maximize Russia's losses. Yet interesting that you're still holding out hope on that last part, and clinging  to an idea that Nuland just incorrectly measured the problem, and US just continues to mis-measure for over 600+ days now. Denial is a natural response and based on a desire for self-preservation, as accepting the alternative is still just too diabolic for a mind to cope with.

^^^ The interesting thing is that Russians are not stupid. Their people are watching everything that the American military does. Then they copy and improve... if they don't happen to already have something better.

Cool

And not just Russia, China has been doing exactly that as well. That's the problem of letting the precedents slide and only addressing them when someone else does it, oh they did it too? then lets start with them, logic. Calling wars "operations", having PMCs, and now China can fully blockade Taiwan (until Taiwanese military gave up all of their food, water and fuel) and apparently that wont be a war crime now.
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November 07, 2023, 01:24:49 PM
^^^ The interesting thing is that Russians are not stupid. Their people are watching everything that the American military does. Then they copy and improve... if they don't happen to already have something better.

Cool
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November 07, 2023, 01:18:28 PM
Ah right, this vote was about taking away US's right to self determination, how silly of me not to see it that way. But, only now even if we follow your silly logic we have an even more inconvenient question to answer, why would the whole world vote for taking US's right to self determination away? But something is telling me that you won't answer this, it's inconvenient to have people with critical thinking that follow logic ask such difficult questions, a good tactic would be to become more arrogant and offensive, anything to draw attention away from the question. Or perhaps ask a rhetorical question back, for example like, why do you think a country would want to trade with a global hegemony and printer for global reserve currency (when they always have an option to starve). And the fact that anyone who touches global reserve currency (USD) falls under this unilateral embargo and can get sanctioned, and the shortages of food and medicine in Cuba are all just unfortunate coincidences, right? Perhaps they should hire you to reeducate the world population with your boundless depth of knowledge?

I'm just pointing out how ridiculous your rhetoric is. Making up "blockade" where there isn't one. Talking about self-determination that is one-way only etc. I'm all for free trade. You're for free trade for Cuba but obviously not for Ukraine's grain, amirite?

Not sure why exactly "the whole world voted" the way it did, but I don't disagree. Let's start with Russia fucking off Ukraine, which "the whole world voted" for too, then we can get to US lifting embargo off Cuba, and eventually world peace. I'll leave the implementation details to you, geopolitical genius that you are.

The documents show that the initial concept of U.S. economic pressure was to create “hardship” and “disenchantment” among the Cuban populace and to deny “money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, [and] to bring about hunger, desperation, and the overthrow of [the] government.” However, a CIA case study of the embargo, written twenty years after its imposition, concluded that the sanctions “have not met any of their objectives.”

One nation just gets to decide if and how another nation gets to participate in global trade. But you are technically correct, if you try to bring medicine into Cuba not cleared by US, US navy will not shoot you down now. They'll sanction you and everyone up the chain, including distributors up to and including the manufacturer of said medicine, essentially bankrupting everyone. So not a military blockade, just a financial one. Same results, different wording.

So once again good ol' American exceptionalism, so US has been doing this for 60years even during the time of peace, whole world has been against it for 31yrs now, but of course we all are activated  to suddenly care very deeply about Ukrainian freedoms Roll Eyes, and surely a good place to remedy this after it's has been going on for 60yrs, would be to start with...Russia during its current ongoing conflict, the biggest offender right?

Taking this even further they're now trying to set a precedent that even straight up blockading food, energy and fuel (effectively disabling all hospitals) to a whole region, is apparently now is not a war crime, as long as that nation still has military which uses fuel and food (which technically military cannot exist without). Seems like Ukraine abstained from telling Israel to fuck off on that too now, but let's all close our eyes on this one too and only get activated and take a position when someone who you don't support does it right? Pretty much the definition of a double standards, but who cares about rules and laws now.

Ability to export goods for financial benefit during the conflict is the least of my concerns. But for the record I'm against cutting power and not allowing inspected fuel (through red cross or similar) to power the hospital generators (even if military might still have some fuel!), regardless if it's in Gaza or in Ukraine.
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November 05, 2023, 07:28:18 PM
Ukraine is simply requesting a honest support from the US. Not "just enough to hold" which seems to be what the US is doing right now. I am quite convinced that if the US wanted they would push much harder, but they are quite happy seeing the Ruzzian army burn through their stockpiles, which would not happen if the war was clearly in favour of one of the parts.

I am not sure US is measuring clearly the problems that Ukraine is facing.
If US  and other countries like Germany would supply what Ukraine asks for, we would see different view. Just remember how much time and efforts it took it took until Ukraine got Leopards, ATACMS, Storm Shadow, I'm not even talking about F16. And even after they got these things, it comes with limitations, likethey're not getting missiles with longest possible range. And Germany is still aren't giving Taurus. With all these inside games they gave Russia times to build defense lines, set up proper logistics, make mobilization and etc. And then someone is surprised that ''counteroffensive failed''.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has hit a frigate in Kerch and there are indications that an airfield has been hit in Rostov=on-don. The first one is a new ship that was "about to be finished", so I guess Ukraine thought a good idea to actually "finish it". The airport hit is not confirmed but the explosions in the are certainly are - there are several S-400 in the are so that may be a possibility too - they are good at intercepting missiles by waiting in the ground for them.
Not just Kerch. There was serious ''arrival'' in occupied Sedove https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1721235952448774536. It's about 100km away from front line. It was ammunition depot and some sources says that russians kept helicopters there too.

Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin.
Nice interpretation of text. You only forgot to tell that Zelensky is a drug addict and that would be perfect combination.
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November 05, 2023, 05:27:37 AM
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.
Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin. In the context of Zaluzhny’s interview, who admitted the failure of the counter-offensive and the lack of understanding of how to win this conflict, all this looks very shitty for Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has hit a frigate in Kerch and there are indications that an airfield has been hit in Rostov=on-don. The first one is a new ship that was "about to be finished", so I guess Ukraine thought a good idea to actually "finish it". The airport hit is not confirmed but the explosions in the are certainly are - there are several S-400 in the are so that may be a possibility too - they are good at intercepting missiles by waiting in the ground for them.
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November 05, 2023, 01:59:59 AM
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.
Glad you're having fun. In the article by Simon Schuster, Zelensky is presented as an inadequate madman, divorced from reality, who imagines himself to be a messiah who must save Europe and the whole world from the Russian threat. It kind of reminds me of Hitler in the bunker, giving orders to his now defunct troops as the Russians approach Berlin. In the context of Zaluzhny’s interview, who admitted the failure of the counter-offensive and the lack of understanding of how to win this conflict, all this looks very shitty for Ukraine.
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November 04, 2023, 07:26:39 PM
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.

I think that the articles themselves are more related to selling newspapers than providing a honest depiction of the Ukrainian government working and state of things. Ukraine is simply requesting a honest support from the US. Not "just enough to hold" which seems to be what the US is doing right now. I am quite convinced that if the US wanted they would push much harder, but they are quite happy seeing the Ruzzian army burn through their stockpiles, which would not happen if the war was clearly in favour of one of the parts.

I am not sure US is measuring clearly the problems that Ukraine is facing.
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November 04, 2023, 06:31:50 PM
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.
LOL, here we go again with wet dream about taking Kyiv Cheesy
With such kind of articles it seems that someone is trying to destabilize situation inside Ukraine that heads of country of army would start to look for enemies among each other. And again we see attempts to push idea of peace talks with Russia. There is also talks that Ukraine should hold president elections next year in war conditions and seems that Arestovich already started his elections campaign.
Fact that less US people support sending weapons to Ukraine is normal thing IMO. War is going one for more than 1.5 years and people  got war fatigue, what is probably normal reaction, especially when you're thousands km from frontline and when war in Israel is getting more attention is Western edia now.
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November 04, 2023, 02:31:42 PM
Watch the video in this link to see why Ukraine is having any success at all. The video shows Putin even recognizing this. We're on the verge of extending life for us all into the several hundred year range. If Putin is right, Ukraine is using this stuff on its troops right now.

How to Become a Superman, Destroy the World, and Live Forever - https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/353214-2023-11-02-how-to-become-a-superman-destroy-the-world-and-live.htm

Note that I had a difficult time downloading this video. I don't know why. Maybe it had to do with a large number of people downloading at the same time. Or, if you are conspiracy minded, maybe the genetics controllers don't want the video out there. It took me about 6 or 8 attempts before I finally got it.

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November 04, 2023, 07:22:51 AM
Just wow, think this is by far the most damning article I've read (exactly when i was expecting the opposite, some typical rosy propaganda). It'd be hard to imagine even gloomier outlook. 59% of Americans are against sending more weapons to Ukraine and increasing fast, Ukraine is out of options but Zelensky is delusional and feels betrayed by "West". US acts dumb and asks Ukraine what will happen if they'll stop providing aid., Ukraine was giving their lives for US money, but that's not enough now. Military commanders are refusing even direct orders by the president, there's not enough weapons, but even if by some miracle UA gets more weapons there's just not enough soldiers to man them, recruitment nearly ground to a halt, US is using corruption in UA to shift the blame and now just directly tells UA who to fire. Feeling the end is near, government officials are stealing like there's no tomorrow (which for them there might not be). On top of all that UA is also now loosing media war with headlines dominated by middle east. Thus now Ukraine aid doesn't stand a chance in Washington  Shocked
You're right. If this article contains at least half the truth (and it was essentially written by Zelensky’s court journalist, who is inclined to smooth out corners and embellish reality) - Ukraine is absolutely fucked, and Russia’s capture of Kiev is only a matter of time.

Update from the dnipro banks: it seems that there is certainly a mid-sized operation ongoing to cross the dniper in several points. Nothing to be scared of, just adjusting ownership of a few square kilometers of land, very close to Crimea and not covered by the so called "Surovikin line". It must be going well for Ukraine, because the local military chief psycho has been replaced with another psycho. The cannot fire the team, so they fire the coach.
You have been consistently pushing this fantastic story of Ukraine crossing the Dnieper for several months now, apparently trying to achieve some kind of reaction. Well, you achieved it, here it is - Ukraine’s crossing of the Dnieper is a pathetic media attempt to sweeten the bitter pill of disappointment from a failed counter-offensive and nothing more. There is no meaningful reason or technical feasibility to undertake any large-scale efforts to cross the Dnieper. Stop fantasizing about this topic, this is just the usual petty fuss of sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

I hope that on your part this is just a ridiculous attempt to distract the audience’s attention from really important and key areas. Because if you are sincere and this is truly your best hope for success, then your despair is even deeper than the current situation in Ukraine really deserves. Grin

Oh, sure, if your narrative about the article is right the Ruzzians will be in Kiev in three days. Again. And then they will do a few gestures of goodwill, and then reduce the "scope",... sure we know the drill.

I am not trying to get any reaction on the dnipro crossing, I am just stating that there is Ukranian activity in the East bank and there is video footage of fight, shelling and the usual things that happen when people cannot reach a peaceful agreement on what belongs to who. If you think it is not important, then it is not important. Nothing to worry about.
Of course there is nothing to worry about here. I think Ukraine has more than enough logistical problems with supplying its troops in Kupyansk, Seversk, Avdeevka and Rabotino to add logistical problems with supplying any large-scale group in the Kherson region on the left bank of the Dnieper.

It does not seem that Ukraine is having logistical problems in any of the places you mention. They are all either holding well, even ridiculously large meat assaults like in the case of Avdiivka or even with morderate Ukranian gains like near Robotyne.

It would be quite interesting for Ukraine to hold both banks of the dniper for many reasons. Just like Ruzzia is not very happy about having large cities in the east in artillery range of Ukraine, Ukraine is not too happy about having Kherson so close to the frontlines. This crossing as of now is just a border shaping operation, with very close artillery positions in the west bank, if you are already imagining large groups crossing and taking all the villages in the east bank... well, who knows...
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