Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 172. (Read 73721 times)

Anybody fears war or being harmed in any way. But don't be overly scared. You are being taken care of by God/Jesus. We are all going to die some time. But even there God takes care of us. Have faith in God, and turn your life over to Him.

I'm rather scared for Ukraine. I hear Zelensky has virtually outlawed Christianity in Ukraine... at least the Russian Orthodox Church. It's not the idea of win or lose the war that I am scared about. Rather, it's the idea that the Ukraine government seems to want to remove the chance for life in Heaven from Ukrainians.

What will an attitude like this bring about? Well, if the people side with Zelensky in this, it will harm them individually in their loss of Heaven. But if the people are against Zelensky in this, and they are in favor of God, God just might bring Zelensky and the Ukraine government down.

Note that the Russian government has not tried to stamp out the Russian Orthodox Church.

I am scared after seeing what are super power doing - US is giving threats to Russia - Russia is giving threats to US
China meeting Moscow -Russia fighting for historic lands - Ukraine looking towards other for more aid - I am not sure what is going to happen. This is world war 3 surly

I believe that US actually asked "Kindly" from China not to do so, rather than accusing, unless there is a reliable transcript of communications saying so. However, "war materials" are something very wide, it is not just shells and drones, it is also electronics with potential use for weapons. I have no doubt that China is perfectly willing to supply as much of those as needed - they are getting cheap and nice oil from RF after all.

Jeffrey Sachs and Ex CIA Exec Ray McGovern testify at the UN Security Council about nordstream pipeline bombing.
https://youtu.be/R_EX-VwKjng

Same basic things the US has been doing around the world, often with more success than Russia. Why more success? Sneakier. Not as straight-forward.

There are a lot of parallels between the Russians invasions of Afghanistan and Ukraine.  

Russia/USSR tries for years to control another country covertly (more or less) by installing pro Russian politicians, propaganda, etc...

The people in that country don't want to be controlled by Russians, so the plan doesn't work and they try starting a war instead.  Invasion time.

The war is a disaster.  Western countries work to stop Russia from taking the country.

USSR collapsed.  What happens to Russia has yet to be determined, doesn't seem like Putin has learned from history though.

The US has been teasing Russia for decades with some form of war instigation.


Brzezinski's Confession

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https://www.fff.org/2023/02/22/brzezinskis-confession/
While American interventionists remain stone-cold silent about the way that the Pentagon, operating through its old Cold War dinosaur NATO, knowingly, deliberately, and intentionally provoked Russia into invading Ukraine, it's instructive to remind ourselves that this wasn't the first time that the Pentagon provoked Russia into invading another country.

Let's go back to 1979, when the Pentagon was still waging its old Cold War racket. That was the year that U.S. officials devised a successful plot to provoke the Soviets into invading Afghanistan.

Now, before you exclaim, "Conspiracy theory, Jacob!" which is the standard official response whenever someone criticizes dark-side activities on the part of the U.S. national-security establishment, permit me to disclose something important: There is a confession.

Yes, you read that last part correctly. There is a confession on the part of the national-security establishment that that is precisely what they did. Even for those who are loath to ever acknowledge that the national-security establishment engages in evil, dark-side activity, a confession is rather persuasive evidence that takes matters out of the realm of "conspiracy theory" and places them squarely in the realm of an actual conspiracy.
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Well, perhaps I was not informed enough, but I thought Biden was targeting at specific branches or chinese companies which could provide military equipment to Moscow. If I recall correctly, during Trump's presidency it was more like a prohibition/or rather limitations on Chinese importation and commerce, which it was wider, wasn't it?

The context is different, obviously: back them it was a commercial "war", now we are talking about a literal war which people would not like it to escalate.

Maybe NATO expanding eastwards would be less of a problem if the Soviet Union would have stopped being so aggressive and opressive against their neighbors?
After what Russia is doing right now, joining NATO has been a good decision for the Baltics states / Poland, hasn't it?
Now, Finland and Sweden want to join as well and these countries have been neutral the whole time...

Mabye, the problem is....Russia being so agressive? 


Putler got an award

Perhaps because the media is state owned in Russia and it's against the law or something to criticize the special military consternation?

Yes, I like people talking about German history / politics but all their knowledge comes from Kremlin propaganda channels and they are calling themselves "free thinkers" while their viewpoints are often 1:1 from Russian state TV. LOL
We have some Putin apologists sitting in the German parliament as well who are trying to lecture Ukrainians about Ukrainian history.  
They are such clowns.  

You debunked nothing at all and Hersh's "sources" are a complete joke. Sorry but if he wants to be taken seriously, he needs far more than his dubious "sources".
But due to Putin's loyal serfs, Hersh's dubious "sources" don't matter at all. Logical arguments doesn't matter at all because for Putin's loyal serfs, Putin can even invade another country (Ukraine) and can completely get away with it.
Even more: Putin's loyal serfs are actively defending Putin's invasion. Honestly, that's nuts!  

Well, we can read what's written again and again by BAdecker, Branko and his friends. They need some brain jogging, so I wanted to do them a favor and add a hint. Similar to a tl;dr.

As far as I know, Germany didn't participate in Bush's war in Iraq and our foreign minister back then didn't believe Bush's claims about WMD in Iraq. So, what now?


You might be surprised but shouldn't Bitcoiners be against war in general? Call out lies and injustice and do their own due diligence by looking at the people in Ukraine (and in Russia which are opressed by Putins and used as cannon fodder), then making conclusions.
In my opinion, a Bitcoiner shouldn't engage in whataboutism as well, when Putler invades a sovereign country.
Alex Gladstein, a human rights activist has written a great essay about it, where also Ukrainian Bitcoin Core Contributor Gleb Naumenko provided a contribution:

Yes, who stood to gain from the Nordstream pipeline sabotage the most? (only 3 out of 4 pipelines were blown up)

Congratulations, you've found out that companies are greedy!  

Isn't it great that you have the freedom to not like NATO? Ironically - in no small part ensured by the existence of NATO itself. You're tapping this conspiratardery BS on your communist child labor iphone and yapping about the evil west, while totally ignoring the last 80 years of European history and your incredible luck that Stalin was stopped around the middle of Europe and not e.g. near Lisbon.

Another great thing about this freedom that you despise so much is that you can pack up and leave for Russia tomorrow and be happy there. I have no idea why you putinists choose to struggle in the rotten capitalist west. Must be those chemtrails causing you brain damage.

Watch the "Slaughterbots" video to see how the US is going to take out Russia... except if Russia gets the Slaughterbots first.

Its funny how the president of the USA had to travel by train, as if he's afraid of all those Ukrainians he armed to the teeth
with all kind of AA defense, but not too picky about choosing targets, even if its their own ministers

You are right, and yet you watched it. But Zelensky's speeches are not particularly popular in Russia, I think no one watches them at all. And Biden's recent speech from Kyiv did not arouse any interest, except perhaps for the fact that the United States asked Russia for guarantees of his safety a few hours before the unannounced visit.

Now Russia is the actual guarantor of security in Europe, remember this. And even in Poland, Biden spoke from behind a bulletproof barrier because he is afraid and knows there is a new sheriff in the city.

Putin speech today was boring and waste of time, he again repeats old stuff. 8 лeт дaмбили Бaмбac, NATO preparing to attack Russia, nazis in Ukraine, Kyiv regime, Russia isn't at war with Ukrainian people (all civilians killed in this war isn't Ukrainians according to his logic), pedophilia is normal thing in West. And offcourse, special mikitary operation goes according to the plan. Boring, nothing surprising that people in audience were struggling to not fall asleep .
Putin also mentioned Edelweiss Brigade in Ukrainian army, like it was Nazi division. But he decided to ignore fact that Edelweiss was part of Rosgvardia. I don't even talking about that in Russia there is supermarket, mineral water, or skyscrapper called Edelweiss. Named in honour of nazi .

It didn't worked anyway, as there was no inspections made in last 3 years.

Right!

Rather, the US is pushing for WW3 in a big way. Watch Tucker - https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320894747112.

After today, "noo boodyet pizdyet vashomoo katyonkoo (stareekoo), bolshe srat ne boodyet."

PS. 3 trillion Rubles deficit in January alone.

It's rather amazing how you don't seem to understand the slavery of the banking elite of the West. The banks, at the direction of the elite, loan money to the US government to give to Ukraine, and then the American people (and others) are required to pay it back through taxes and inflation. If Putin loses, China will be the only ones left to stop the US banking system from enslaving the whole world. And if China loses, that slavery might be doubled or tripled or more, and become deeper than ever... kinda like the slavery that Mao Zedong did in China.

The US government and banks don't care about the people. All they want is control.

Funny how people like you can have all the world's money history, and any other information like it, at their fingertips today, and yet end up dumber and dumber.