Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 205. (Read 77449 times)

If you think about it, Ukraine really hasn't captured anything in a real fight.  Yes, they re-occupied areas that the Russians didn't want any more or where just decoys strategically, and of course the Ukroids/Western sponsors made a big deal about it in their pathetic sort of low-grade propaganda way, but I cannot think of anything of significance that they flat out won in Bakmud-style hard combat.

Latest word is that Ukraine themselves are evacuating Kherson after figuring out the hard way which was pretty obvious to every thinking person; It's a loser at this point in time and will be as long as Russia can easily destroy anything which moves on the West Bank and will likely do so for quite some time.  And, of course, if anyone destroys the dam the whole place is wiped clean as though by the wrath of God.

One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.


I've got a few 10 year old sock-puppet accounts here.  Maybe I should put them up for sale to footer-spammer merit-surfing social media influencer retards (like you, suchshill, paxbozo, etc.)  What do you think would be a fair trade?  I'm not in the business, and you seem pretty up on such sneaky duplicity which is why I ask.  Bare (Bear?) in mind that I'm hardly a 'motivated seller'.

It seems that knives cut both ways. Even in the RF once would assume that they do at least take care of the infrastructure that is really critical to their economy. Explosions in buildings... well it happens... but a pipeline is a completely different animal. There are management and technical systems in place in any pipeline to prevent exactly what is shown in the picture and if that is not sabotage (which I would not be surprised if it is), proofs that there are clogs in the arteries - big clogs, in the coronary.

Congrats on your newly purchased account.

Gas pipeline explosion near St. Petersburg. Any bets as to whether the Americans, James Bond, or Ukrainian bio-engineered geese did it?

Or it could be Russia just being Russia and disintegrating due to its own rot and corruption.



Another gas explosion in Sakhalin, residential building, 9 people dead. The thing about this one is that the building - like 1/3 of Russia, the "super power" threatening other countries with oil and gas blackmail - does not have natural gas piped to it, so residents use propane tanks, which caused the explosion.



Makes one wonder if that whole "Europe is gonna freeze" thing might have been a bit of a projection.

Yet, all that Russia had to do was adhere to the Minsk 2 agreement (which did not recognize LPR and DPR).  Or the Budapest Memorandum.  Or they could have just not invaded Ukraine.  And all this would be avoided.  

Again, a treaty imposed under threat -  a whole country subject to the Moscow government and waiting for the next invasion of their sovereign territory. Your argument is "all you have to accept is that we will tell you what you can or cannot do, else we will destroy your country" which is not really acceptable, or from Ukraine perspective, it is perfectly acceptable to say, "we will do with our country what is best for our future and our people, not for yours".

In fact that is the essence of having an independent country - choosing your destiny within a range of options and the limitations. There are many cases in history of Metropolis - Colony relationships and it is clear that colonies usually get the shorted end of the stick.

Bottom line, it is legitimate for a free country to choose the relations they wish to establish. In my view, all Moscow had to do was nothing. That would have prevented the war.

Yet, all that Ukraine had to do was adhering to Minsk 2 and all this would be avoided

Please read carefully. It says (ironically) that surely they want to share it (I should have said "enhance it"?) - which is what would happen if the RF annexes Ukraine. That would be a nightmare scenario for Poland, NATO the EU and possibly the US. Not that Ukraine having a border with the RF is something to be liked, particularly if it joins the European Union.

Joseph Borrel, maximun EU diplomat, has recently said that the EU can no longer be a "herbivore" when all the rest are "carnivores". Maintaining an army is costly and also carries political risks of various types if it is  a large army. Western Europe is tired of wars and has reached (at least for now) the conclusion that it is much better to simply not go to war among them. Such costs are even larger if there is a substantially large border with the RF (and its aggressive junta) near the heart of the economically most significant regions of Europe -is going back to cold war.

I am not sure the level of knowledge here, but the wars in Europe have been devastating. A million wars waged in the middle ages, the Napoleonic wars, WW I, WW II, even more recently the Balcan wars... these have achieved nothing but death and economic loses and decline respect to US, China and the rest of the world. It would seen that Putin has read the wrong history books during COVID, as he seems to have forgotten the basic principles: Everytime that an European country has grown too strong, all the rest have allied to stop it. Th RF, in this context, is no different (except that is not even particularly strong, just manically aggressive under the current regime).

It did win. I consider pushing one of the biggest armies in the world back to where they came from a win. The war hasn't ended, but according to the Russians there was no war in the first place, so there's nothing to end, or is there?

It always makes me laugh when I remind myself that Russian TV channels were all screaming that there's no war just a little military operation that's going to end soon and months later they say Russia wants to negotiate with Ukraine but Ukraine refuses. Negotiate what? Take the remains of your special operation and GTFO to your side of the border!


As far as I know it does share a border with RF.

Nope, he did get something wrong. The price of having RF near Europe is unacceptable. If the RF destroys Ukraine, it will be rebuilt better.



The Ukrainian army has shown bravery, commitment and cohesion beyond what many would have thought possible. I cannot think of a better ally nor any other army that can answer more properly "I am the storm" to the devil's ear.


... while arguing that the dude actually is a "superior mind that has understanding beyond anything you can fathom"...


Of course, Poland is being the main corridor for supplies, weapons, training and has donated weapons of their own ex Soviet arsenal because they plan to invade Ukraine. Sounds like a tactic that could be copied and would fit perfectly in the current RF masterplan: Arm Ukraine before invading it. Shoigu are you there reading? Use this tactic pleeease.

https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/06/15/poland-has-given-ukraine-military-aid-worth-at-least-1-7bn-expects-allies-to-help-fill-the-gaps/


Also, yes sure, Poland wants to share a border with the RF. What could go wrong?

But that is something you and I do not get, because we are not in the path of the light like o48o and friends.

 Articles 4 and 5 are not automatic. These enlightened creatures think that NATO is like a robot, you press the button and it jumps.

he also believed his own propaganda like you do, and said Ukraine will win in May 2022, because USA and UK are backing Ukraine 

Wait, kremlinists now watch Arestovych? That would explain how they keep believing that Putin is winning by retreating.

He couldn't have predicted it better even if the Russians discussed it with him beforehand or planned it between them.Any chance you can get this guy on the phone to find out what are the best shit coins to buy right now?

So much hate, so much name calling, even some transgender implications towards a person without any transgender characteristics.
I'm sorry that your special operation isn't going according to plan and you have to resort to this in a forum where most people laugh at Russian war efforts.

Ok, I admit it, I was joking, I'm not sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFlqI3KYiIU

Same actor who threatened NATO to send more money or Ukraine may switch sides.  I wouldn't use the string 'he' without checking it's 'preferred pronouns'.  It's a pretty weird individual in a number of ways.  You'd have to ask Zenskij the cokehead to know which of it's peculiarities are of such appeal that he keeps it around in a chief advisor role.  Maybe it's just the will of their mutual boss Igor Kolomoyskyi.

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

Bavovna in Dzhankoi, Crimea. About 200km inside Russian-occupied territory, so kinda beyond the range of your friendly neighborhood HIMARS. Ukrainians might be using some new gadgets. Can't be solar flares because it's the middle of the night.

https://t.me/tipichyidzhankoi/1011


I think you're fine, there doesn't seem to be much risk that you could be put into any category other than "always wrong".

I find it funny that some people apparently identify as a russian troll so deeply that they seem to get offended when i only criticize russian trolls.

And while doing this they try to took apart meme that i made just to try to point out that i didn't understand the point.

And if someone doesn't (have the mental capacity to) understand: Those aren't real quotes either. I made them up and could have written literally any made up quote and it seems that they would defend it as a wise thing to say that i just don't get.
 
I know this must be hard to process for someone who only blindly trust to that group of people who don't trust anyone either.

That very good point. Russians is very selective. When Western media says something against Russia, it's lies, fakes and etc. But when news fits their agenda, even partially, they quote it as reliable source, often taking things out of context.

I saw some Russian vatniks saying that NATO now should activate 5th article against Ukraine because they attacked NATO country.
About Poland invading Ukraine, it fits their agenda that they use since beginning of war that Poland and Hungary have intentions to share Weatern part of Ukraine.