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legendary
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November 25, 2022, 12:12:38 PM
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Apart, "governments in exile" can be certainly a political tool of foreign countries, so let people choose their leaders and your country will be more resilient to divide an conquer strategies by foreign powers.

What passes for 'Democracy' in most of the 'developed' countries (and most of the others) is a 'choice' between WEF candidate 1 or WEF candidate 2.  Usually the one labeled 'winner' is either 1 or 2 (regardless of the vote count) which is why there are so many of totalitarian technocrat Schwab's 'young global leaders' labeled 'heads of state' these days and you can tell them by their totalitarian footprint on policy when it is dictated by WEF project goals.  Particularly since the covaids scamdemic was launched pretty much on the first day of 2020.


Absolutely top notch point. But what is it all about? Here's what. The US Federal Reserve Bank.

There was good reason to contract with an outside-of-government banking system in the US, to handle the US money at the time. But there was a much worse side to all of it that Congress either didn't know about, or were paid off by the banking system to ignore. Here is what it is, basically. And this is what is behind the whole world problem.

When anybody, company or artificial entity or the government, borrows money from the US banking system, it is really a creation of new money. The bank considers the promissory note to be money, and treats it that way. So, what borrowing money really is, is a trade of one form of money for another form of money... not a loan at all, although they can legally call it a loan.

What this means is that paying off the loan over the next 10 to 30 years is really giving a gift to the banking system.


The newly created money is funneled to the Federal Reserve Bank from local banks, and from there it is passed on to the 12 families that own the Federal Reserve Bank (The Fed, which is a private bank simply licensed by government to handle US money.).

These 12 families (some of which are owned by other of them) are what is controlling the world by screwing the American people over. With its tentacles reaching into many countries around the world, including the countries that use the Euro puppet money, they are screwing the people of all of the G20 nations over.

If you want to see what is behind the Ukraine/Russian war, simply listen to everything that Klaus Schwab says. It has to do with taking over the world and making slaves of us all.

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legendary
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November 25, 2022, 11:12:54 AM

The RF is shoving itself out of the main dialogue and negotiations groups in the world. Other children do not play with you if you hit them in the nose.

An analogy which matches reality much better is this:  Other children are scared to play with you if you don't hit a third child in the nose when the big bully U.S. kid tells you to.

The problem that keeps oozing in is the Russian kid has a nearly endless supply of DingDongs ahd Ho-Ho's (energy) and will trade with anyone reliably and for a good value...except lately he's tightening up on those kids who hit him in the nose.  And the Saudi kid who also has a lot of Hostess is making a lot of noise switching sides.

You may FUD democracies and call them whatever, but there is no doubt that the current RF Junta does not represent anyone but themselves - there is not even a doubt there.

There is quite a lot of doubt about that in my mind.  It's looking to me as though Russia has currently one of the most democratic leaderships around, but since it's not something I've studied in depth I will not take a firm stance on it.

Am I justifying a "government in exile" - not really, I mean, France had a government in exile during WWII, you know, nothing that strange. I am saying that if let people speak and run for offices, you wont get a government in exile. Where is the confusion? But that is not going to happen in the RF is it?

That's a hoot.  Censorship is rampant across the spectrum in the 'Western Democracies.'  In fairness, though, it has been a constant fixture and lingering infection in most of the former Soviet Union countries since the union collapsed.

Apart, "governments in exile" can be certainly a political tool of foreign countries, so let people choose their leaders and your country will be more resilient to divide an conquer strategies by foreign powers.

What passes for 'Democracy' in most of the 'developed' countries (and most of the others) is a 'choice' between WEF candidate 1 or WEF candidate 2.  Usually the one labeled 'winner' is either 1 or 2 (regardless of the vote count) which is why there are so many of totalitarian technocrat Schwab's 'young global leaders' labeled 'heads of state' these days and you can tell them by their totalitarian footprint on policy when it is dictated by WEF project goals.  Particularly since the covaids scamdemic was launched pretty much on the first day of 2020.

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November 25, 2022, 09:08:48 AM
Probably another Ziocon idea/scam, but they might have stumbled on something:

  https://www.eurasiareview.com/11112022-russian-legislature-in-exile-formed-to-oppose-putins-war-and-regime-oped/

I would welcome an 'American Government in Exile' situated in some desirable locale,...

Yes, but sorry, exile is useless in democracies, it is only in despotic and tyrannical regimes that may appear. I a participative regime with rule of law you can live in the country and say pretty much anything you like, even become president if you convince enough people. So a "government in exile" is just not necessary, you can be the "wannabe government" equally well in the country. In my view Trump is even anti-government and anti-system and is still there you know.

Now, I am aware that there are many caveats on this, but not in the essence.

Your writing is a little confusing, but it sounds like we are in agreement that 'Government-in-Exile' is legit for places governed by non-democratic despotic and tyrannical regimes.  That describes pretty much most of the West with their sham voting, de-pop shot policies, and climate hoax non-sense.  There so happens to be a huge overlap with WEF run countries that I mentioned.
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My hope is that Russia might tentatively entertain such a role as a giant 'Fuck You' to those who are trying to shove them out of global involvement.  Even to the point of not letting Russian individuals compete in international tournaments!  These petty and infantile leadership decisions are something that I cannot in good conscience support, and even if I could, they are the harbinger of a complete collapse...and it isn't hard to see who is standing by to 'reset' things to their liking when it happens.



The RF is shoving itself out of the main dialogue and negotiations groups in the world. Other children do not play with you if you hit them in the nose.

You may FUD democracies and call them whatever, but there is no doubt that the current RF Junta does not represent anyone but themselves - there is not even a doubt there.

Am I justifying a "government in exile" - not really, I mean, France had a government in exile during WWII, you know, nothing that strange. I am saying that if let people speak and run for offices, you wont get a government in exile. Where is the confusion? But that is not going to happen in the RF is it?

Apart, "governments in exile" can be certainly a political tool of foreign countries, so let people choose their leaders and your country will be more resilient to divide an conquer strategies by foreign powers.

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November 25, 2022, 05:11:31 AM
And who cares about what EX corrupted Japanese prime minister Yoshiro "Women shouldn't talk" Mori has to say about anything?
It shouldn't really be surprise that right wing misogynists jo who like to hang out with right wing extremist have a crush on Putin and his values.
I am sure that he will be even compensated financially by kremlin.
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November 25, 2022, 03:21:10 AM
Probably another Ziocon idea/scam, but they might have stumbled on something:

  https://www.eurasiareview.com/11112022-russian-legislature-in-exile-formed-to-oppose-putins-war-and-regime-oped/

I would welcome an 'American Government in Exile' situated in some desirable locale,...

Yes, but sorry, exile is useless in democracies, it is only in despotic and tyrannical regimes that may appear. I a participative regime with rule of law you can live in the country and say pretty much anything you like, even become president if you convince enough people. So a "government in exile" is just not necessary, you can be the "wannabe government" equally well in the country. In my view Trump is even anti-government and anti-system and is still there you know.

Now, I am aware that there are many caveats on this, but not in the essence.

Your writing is a little confusing, but it sounds like we are in agreement that 'Government-in-Exile' is legit for places governed by non-democratic despotic and tyrannical regimes.  That describes pretty much most of the West with their sham voting, de-pop shot policies, and climate hoax non-sense.  There so happens to be a huge overlap with WEF run countries that I mentioned.

Russia willing, we could lease/rent in Crimea as sort of an 'Embassy Alley' to give the drowning West a life-preserver until the reptilians are imploded.  Location is OK, weather is better than Siberia, and the water supply is back.

As an ex-pat, I would gladly join the USA-AGE_1 (USA Alt Gov-in-Exile, first instance) if I could get travel docs to get my ass from point A to point B globally via a network of 'friendly' countries.

I would also be fairly generous with 'taxes', and especially if they were voluntary and based on services offered.  If the entity turns into shit-heads (inevitable with time) then I'll move on to '_2'.  Obviously also if payment options supported a reasonable sub-set of crypto-currencies.

My hope is that Russia might tentatively entertain such a role as a giant 'Fuck You' to those who are trying to shove them out of global involvement.  Even to the point of not letting Russian individuals compete in international tournaments!  These petty and infantile leadership decisions are something that I cannot in good conscience support, and even if I could, they are the harbinger of a complete collapse...and it isn't hard to see who is standing by to 'reset' things to their liking when it happens.

legendary
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November 24, 2022, 07:53:59 PM
Probably another Ziocon idea/scam, but they might have stumbled on something:

  https://www.eurasiareview.com/11112022-russian-legislature-in-exile-formed-to-oppose-putins-war-and-regime-oped/

I would welcome an 'American Government in Exile' situated in some desirable locale,...

Yes, but sorry, exile is useless in democracies, it is only in despotic and tyrannical regimes that may appear. I a participative regime with rule of law you can live in the country and say pretty much anything you like, even become president if you convince enough people. So a "government in exile" is just not necessary, you can be the "wannabe government" equally well in the country. In my view Trump is even anti-government and anti-system and is still there you know.

Now, I am aware that there are many caveats on this, but not in the essence.
legendary
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November 24, 2022, 05:45:31 AM
Probably another Ziocon idea/scam, but they might have stumbled on something:

  https://www.eurasiareview.com/11112022-russian-legislature-in-exile-formed-to-oppose-putins-war-and-regime-oped/

I would welcome an 'American Government in Exile' situated in some desirable locale, and if it has better policies, principles, ethics, etc which align more with the traditions of the republic.  In that case I wouldn't have such an impulse/need to renounce my United States of America citizenship but rather just shift it to the one which I like best.

It would be cool if forward-looking nations with resources and thus a potential future such as Russia who are being cut out of the U.N./WEF 'new world order' and 'global governance' and all of that hot mess just said "Fine, we are sick of your so-called '4th industrial revolution' bullshit anyway and will honor documentation from such a 'government in exile' no problem".

Honestly, it never made any sense to me why it would be 'patriotic' to support a government which has obviously been subverted by an enemy.  Should be just the opposite.  The Ukraine under the current government, the U.S. under the Zionists, and any nation who has a WEF installed lackey at the helm (all 5-eyes, most of the EU), etc, all fit into this category.  All would benefit by one or more 'governments in exile'.

The G-20 (mostly G-7) is already working hard to totally control the movement of anyone with their global 'Digital Vaccine Passport' system so anyone who won't take the de-pop shots will have a heck of a time traveling anyway unless they have enough money for a private jet.  So, it's not it's going to be a cake-walk for anyone who isn't willing to 'own nothing, eat bugs, and be happy'.  Travel, diet, private ownership, and a lot of other 'perks' that we take for granted are simply not in the cards so it make little sense to hope for them (again, unless one is very wealthy and can stay that way.)  Forward looking countries who have some degree of strength (Russia, Brazil, etc) could possibly do pretty well by developing and maintaining the ability to entertain the '10% worldwide' who don't want to become slaves in the technocratic world order.  And could be well positioned when such a utopia falls completely apart.

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November 24, 2022, 03:03:45 AM
Most important thing from this stuff is word ''ex''. I love how all thse former politicians, military experts and other people trying to become relevant by sharing their opinion about war, when in reality, their opinion doesn't matter and they don't play any role. And it doesn't even matter which side in this war they support.
And if you already decided to pay attention to what this grandpa said, I don't see nothing interesting in his words. He just said that ''Zelenskyy has made many Ukrainian people suffer''. Not sure how exactly, like he would be responsible that Russia started this war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUwoYCj8qTE
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November 23, 2022, 06:29:10 PM
Most important thing from this stuff is word ''ex''. I love how all thse former politicians, military experts and other people trying to become relevant by sharing their opinion about war, when in reality, their opinion doesn't matter and they don't play any role. And it doesn't even matter which side in this war they support.
And if you already decided to pay attention to what this grandpa said, I don't see nothing interesting in his words. He just said that ''Zelenskyy has made many Ukrainian people suffer''. Not sure how exactly, like he would be responsible that Russia started this war.
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November 23, 2022, 04:46:09 PM

False. Yoshiro Mori has no role in the current Japanese government, this is not, as you are trying to imply, any official position from any current representative of Japan, not to mention Japan itself. Just to make it more clear: He is 85 years old and the last time he held the PM office was 21 years ago.

An BTW, just for a character reference an reliability of what he says
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he was appointed to head the organizing committee for the 2020 Summer Olympics and Paralympics,[7] but he resigned in February 2021 following gaffes made at a committee meeting that were considered to be sexist.[8]


On a Sintho culture that values the opinion of the elderly, it may mean something. For the world, nothing. Further more, Japan, at this precise moment, aligns with US decisions mostly (thanks Kim Jong Un).
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November 22, 2022, 04:44:49 AM
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Kherson Left Bank deserves a 10/10 from what I can see.  Civies were given re-settlement options anywhere they wanted to go, anything which was fit to tow was removed, and there were zero losses in the military ranks....



But will never know right? The number of RF young unmotivated (sometimes enslaved) and untrained RF citizens that have been recycled into planting beds for the maniac leadership and madness of a septuagenarian that has maybe 5 or 10 good years left of life is not published. So sure, zero losses *wink *wink.

But I can agree with you this time, it is a 10/10... for Ukraine. A practical implementation of the Art of War (the battle is won before it starts, the wise general avoids battle, you must have better intelligence, etc.) to the letter.

“Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting.”

"“He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks.Treat your men as you would your own beloved sons. And they will follow you into the deepest valley."

“He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign."

“Know yourself, know your enemy. A hundred battles, a hundred victories.”

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near"

 - Sun Tzu

This one is specially for you:

“To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy. It is easy to love your friend, but sometimes the hardest lesson to learn is to love your enemy."

 - Sun Tzu


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Stuff as usual. Even retreat of Russia is considered as win.
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Let's toast for RF's victorious retreat of unwanted Crimea then.
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November 21, 2022, 07:04:47 PM
If you think about it, Ukraine really hasn't captured anything in a real fight.  Yes, they re-occupied areas that the Russians didn't want any more or where just decoys strategically, and of course the Ukroids/Western sponsors made a big deal about it in their pathetic sort of low-grade propaganda way, but I cannot think of anything of significance that they flat out won in Bakmud-style hard combat.

Latest word is that Ukraine themselves are evacuating Kherson after figuring out the hard way which was pretty obvious to every thinking person; It's a loser at this point in time and will be as long as Russia can easily destroy anything which moves on the West Bank and will likely do so for quite some time.  And, of course, if anyone destroys the dam the whole place is wiped clean as though by the wrath of God.

One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.
Stuff as usual. Even retreat of Russia is considered as win. Yeah, Russia left it just because they don't want to control it anymore. And Ukraine haven't played any role there. Everything was fine and here one day Russia decide to leave Kherson. Then why they made all these billboards with words ''Russia is here forever''. Same stuff about Kyiv and Kharkiv.
Ukraine evacuating Kherson - maybe it has something with fact that Russia while retreating left city without electricity, water and heating.
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November 21, 2022, 05:52:30 PM

On that topic, it's interesting to note the evolution of the last phase of the Russian decoy operations (the pull-out).  It's pretty complicated given the op-sec considerations, PR considerations, etc:

Kiev area was a disaster and nobody is saying that one was worth bragging about.  They lost significant kit and persons killed not to mention the poor locals who didn't have a chance against the jackal-like 'friends and neighbors'.  It was so bad that there was widespread sackings and suspicions that the Russian intel people were in on it.

Kharkiv went pretty well, but they left to many good Ukroid people behind for the Ukrainian Secret Police Nazis to have their way with which was quite sad.  Some broken down junk was left.

Kherson Left Bank deserves a 10/10 from what I can see.  Civies were given re-settlement options anywhere they wanted to go, anything which was fit to tow was removed, and there were zero losses in the military ranks.  So they say.  Not only that but the abandoned area was well prepared as a killing field (a new Russian specialty) so much so that the Ukroids stuck their nose in, got it bopped, then got out fast.  It's more than possible that the Russian performance here was bolstered by a deal with the West to get a leash on coke-head Zenenskij.   Or maybe he was just on a powerball binge/crash and didn't notice until Ivan was safely across the river.



Have you abandoned your whole "the war is fake, the whole thing is being orchestrated by the global elite and the outcome is pre determined" conspiracy theory?

If you think the elite - the real Biggies - have their claws in only one or two nations, you are missing it. The elite control what they can, and move with the flow where they can't control.

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November 21, 2022, 04:55:35 PM
How will this war ever end if Russia will never leave Crimea and Ukraine will never cede Crimea?If Ukraine attempts to retake Crimea will Russia openly declare war on Ukraine and carpet bomb it or simply try to defend it from within which has proved to be a futile tactic against an impressive Ukrainian offensive?Both sides seem to be well matched on the battlefield.Is there anyone here with any military experience who could give some input?

Russia was "never" going to leave Kherson either, until it did.

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November 21, 2022, 02:22:32 PM
One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.


None of that is happening, is just the effect of that pill the they sold you after Maths II class.

On that topic, it's interesting to note the evolution of the last phase of the Russian decoy operations (the pull-out).  It's pretty complicated given the op-sec considerations, PR considerations, etc:

Kiev area was a disaster and nobody is saying that one was worth bragging about.  They lost significant kit and persons killed not to mention the poor locals who didn't have a chance against the jackal-like 'friends and neighbors'.  It was so bad that there was widespread sackings and suspicions that the Russian intel people were in on it.

Kharkiv went pretty well, but they left to many good Ukroid people behind for the Ukrainian Secret Police Nazis to have their way with which was quite sad.  Some broken down junk was left.

Kherson Left Bank deserves a 10/10 from what I can see.  Civies were given re-settlement options anywhere they wanted to go, anything which was fit to tow was removed, and there were zero losses in the military ranks.  So they say.  Not only that but the abandoned area was well prepared as a killing field (a new Russian specialty) so much so that the Ukroids stuck their nose in, got it bopped, then got out fast.  It's more than possible that the Russian performance here was bolstered by a deal with the West to get a leash on coke-head Zenenskij.   Or maybe he was just on a powerball binge/crash and didn't notice until Ivan was safely across the river.



Have you abandoned your whole "the war is fake, the whole thing is being orchestrated by the global elite and the outcome is pre determined" conspiracy theory?
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November 21, 2022, 11:27:36 AM
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None of that is happening, is just the effect of that pill the they sold you after Maths II class.

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None of that is happening because it doesn't need to happen. When you look at the world situation, the US and its banking system, along with Nato, are all falling apart. It's a shame that they are falling apart because the people of many nations will be hurt in some ways.

If the US and their banking system had been built on righteousness rather than Ponzi corruption, this might not have happened. But since it is built on corruption, it will fall, as all corruption does.

And this doesn't mean the people, themselves. The people of America are in general attempting to do what is right. It's just that they can't see through the US leader lies, just like some Ukrainians have a difficult time seeing through Zelenski lies.

As it is, Putin and Russia are more righteous that the US and its lies.


Ukraine’s missile strike into Poland a “provocation” against government in Warsaw, warns Polish politician


A Polish politician believes the Ukrainian missile that struck his country was a “provocation” by Kyiv.

On Nov. 15, a missile struck southeastern Poland, near the border with Ukraine, killing two Polish citizens. Jaroslaw Pakula, chairman of the city council of Lublin in southeastern Poland, believes that the strike clearly came from Ukraine and was a provocation against the government in Warsaw. (Related: Associated Press makes major mistake – almost starts World War III with fake news report about missile that killed two people in Poland.)

“Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course. This is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,” Pakula wrote on his official Facebook page. “The rocket could not be fired 100 kilometers [62 miles] in the opposite direction by mistake.”

Pakula added that the purpose of attempting to provoke Warsaw was to scare Poland and the European Union and get more support for more military aid to be sent to Kyiv. Pakula believes that, instead of telling “fairy tales” about where the missile came from, Polish President Andrzej Duda should respond to the provocation by telling Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Warsaw “will no longer put up with this behavior.”

“I urge [Duda] to rethink Poland’s position [regarding] this war in the event that the red line is crossed again,” Pakula concluded.

Polish government, NATO believes missile was Ukrainian despite Kyiv’s denial

Zelensky immediately accused Russia of being responsible for the missile attack, claiming that Moscow is attacking Poland and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and trying to blame it on Kyiv.

Official government statements from Ukraine claim that the incident showed the need for NATO to “close the sky” over Ukraine, repeating the demand the country has had since February that NATO should enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine to prevent Russian military aircraft from defending Russian citizens and military positions in the area.

Unfortunately for Zelensky, both Poland and the entirety of NATO believe that the missile was launched by Ukraine.

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November 21, 2022, 10:35:34 AM
One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.


None of that is happening, is just the effect of that pill the they sold you after Maths II class.

On that topic, it's interesting to note the evolution of the last phase of the Russian decoy operations (the pull-out).  It's pretty complicated given the op-sec considerations, PR considerations, etc:

Kiev area was a disaster and nobody is saying that one was worth bragging about.  They lost significant kit and persons killed not to mention the poor locals who didn't have a chance against the jackal-like 'friends and neighbors'.  It was so bad that there was widespread sackings and suspicions that the Russian intel people were in on it.

Kharkiv went pretty well, but they left to many good Ukroid people behind for the Ukrainian Secret Police Nazis to have their way with which was quite sad.  Some broken down junk was left.

Kherson Left Bank deserves a 10/10 from what I can see.  Civies were given re-settlement options anywhere they wanted to go, anything which was fit to tow was removed, and there were zero losses in the military ranks.  So they say.  Not only that but the abandoned area was well prepared as a killing field (a new Russian specialty) so much so that the Ukroids stuck their nose in, got it bopped, then got out fast.  It's more than possible that the Russian performance here was bolstered by a deal with the West to get a leash on coke-head Zenenskij.   Or maybe he was just on a powerball binge/crash and didn't notice until Ivan was safely across the river.

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November 21, 2022, 08:40:36 AM
You constantly talk in this thread about the future victories of Ukraine and how clumsily the Russian army is fighting. Apparently, you are very confident in the victory of Ukraine, then I offer you a bet with the following conditions:
- if Ukrainian troops manage to recapture any of these cities before January 1, 2023: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then I will leave this forum forever.
- if the Ukrainian troops until January 1, 2023 are NOT able to recapture any of these cities: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then you will leave this forum forever.
If you're not ready for this bet, then maybe you will stop your wishful talking?
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If you think about it, Ukraine really hasn't captured anything in a real fight.


False, they have fought and driven the RF army out of more than 3000 km2. That was not achieved by "talking the RF Psychos out of them".


 Yes, they re-occupied areas that the Russians didn't want...


RF young and unprepared RF soldiers died for those "decoys", "unwanted areas" and "smart tactics". Ask anyone if they think that RF would have not rather kept the main city of a territory they are (illegally) claiming as RF's. Your shit is becoming pathetic.

You specifically wanted to bet on Ukraine not being able to do so - curious how fast you change your blabber.


Latest word is that Ukraine themselves are evacuating Kherson after figuring out the hard way which was pretty obvious to every thinking person;

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Latest word where? In you Secondary School latrines? Give a GPS loc for that, I will pass it to the nearest HIMARS.

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 It's a loser at this point in time and will be as long as Russia can easily destroy anything which moves on the West Bank and will likely do so for quite some time.  And, of course, if anyone destroys the dam the whole place is wiped clean as though by the wrath of God.
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None of that is happening. Your imaginary's friend wrath isn't either.

One reason Ukraine might be abandoning Kherson City is that they might be going to have another go at the dam in order to fuck with the water supply to Crimea, but it would be very NaZiocon to keep the population in place at gunpoint just because it's the kind of thing they do.  The Russians certainly knew that which is why the resettled the decent elements of the population before pulling out.


None of that is happening, is just the effect of that pill the they sold you after Maths II class.


Congrats on your newly purchased account.

I've got a few 10 year old sock-puppet accounts here.  ...

Bear in mind that you may loose two at the time for double posting, including Legendary and Senior accounts. Me and many people need you here posting - you are greatly helping the Ukrainian cause by posting unbelievable shit.

How will this war ever end if Russia will never leave Crimea and Ukraine will never cede Crimea?If Ukraine attempts to retake Crimea will Russia openly declare war on Ukraine and carpet bomb it or simply try to defend it from within which has proved to be a futile tactic against an impressive Ukrainian offensive?Both sides seem to be well matched on the battlefield.Is there anyone here with any military experience who could give some input?

It is not a military issue. If the US wanted Ukraine to take Crimea it would already be done. The problem is political, you have to defend Ukraine without threatening Adolf Putin's regime survival. A decisive quick victory would de-stabilise the RF, like it did with Iraq - but RF's got nukes which makes it much more dangerous. Risks are being carefully measured.
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How will this war ever end if Russia will never leave Crimea and Ukraine will never cede Crimea?If Ukraine attempts to retake Crimea will Russia openly declare war on Ukraine and carpet bomb it or simply try to defend it from within which has proved to be a futile tactic against an impressive Ukrainian offensive?Both sides seem to be well matched on the battlefield.Is there anyone here with any military experience who could give some input?
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