Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 204. (Read 73721 times)

Source please? Unless that goings against the ancestral uses of your Eastern tribe.

RE Iranian drones, I think that only concerns Iran, as it will build up on the list of accusations that the US has against the regime. The only conclusion I could draw of the RF using IKEA drones - actually some IKEA furniture has more know-how than those drones i- is that the all glorious and mighty Orc Army and their enlightened Chief Psychos are really running out of ideas, chips and any weapons built after the 80's.

Recently UK intelligence estimates 278 RF aircraft losses, nearly 76,000 RF soldiers killed for nothing, while Putin claims that 80,000 more are in the occupied areas - most of these are the slave army, not true professional soldiers. Also, it estimated that only 5% are from Moscow / St Petersburg, most of the cannon fodder comes from the poorer areas of the RF.

So, Russia can put objects into space at will, have hyper-sonic weapons, optionally nuclear tipped, which cannot be stopped by anyone, can dump as many artillery shells in a few weeks than all those used in WW-II or some such and seem to have not run out yet, etc...but they cannot manufacture a 50hp chainsaw engined flying corn-chip?

That you could actually believe such a thing explains a lot about why you are wrong about pretty much everything else on this earth.

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WRT the 'Iranian' drones, I've heard one story/idea that they started out as a soon abandoned Russian project under the general umbrella of the groups who 'owns' Kalashnikov.  They handed the project off to the Iranians a while ago, and they did significantly more R&D and got them pretty flyable.  Russia then bought them back and did some updates to the navigation systems.  They are reported (by Ukraine who got a few in tact) to be of a 'hand made' nature.  If this is the case, I would expect that yes, at least the early crop had at least air-frames and powerplants fabricated in Iran.  But, so what?

If it's the case that anyone who has the ability to build a car for weekend races can hammer one of these things together, and if the prints and 'open sourced', it could open up some world-wide possibilities.

That said, I suspect that the reason these things seem so effective is that they are so 'bad'.  The anti-aircraft systems designers didn't even think of a slow flying and 'thermally quiet' targets...because they were more focused on how many millions of $$$ they could bilk out of the American taxpayers instead.  But, with another few billion $$$ for R&D and a few years, Lockheed and friends probably could 'de-tune' some of their existing overpriced junk to be effective against flying lawn mowers as well.

Of course we are right back to spending $1,000,000 to get a shot at a $20,000 target.  In other words, right where the military/industrial complex wishes to be.

It's because they aren't able to manufacture the drones themselves. 

Because its cheaper, and still get a job done?

I am glad that the issue of kamikaze drones no longer bothers you.

Yeah poor Russia, getting provoked by Ukraine military while they were simply trying to enjoy the sights of Bucha, forcing them to murder all those innocent civilians and leave their bodies in the street.  Crimea river. 

Russian military acceptance has very strict requirements. In particular, the product should work normally in a wide temperature range (I find it difficult to give exact figures, but let's say from minus 85 to plus 55 degrees Celsius - this range should cover the lowest temperature at the cold pole in Yakutia and the highest temperature in the desert in the southern borders of Russia), plus requirements at the place of production of all critical components of the product, plus high requirements for the overall reliability of the product. All this complicates the development of promising types of weapons and makes it very expensive. Iran has made a breakthrough in the development of kamikaze drones, which neither Russia, nor the United States, nor anyone else in the world has been able to make.

Russia has its own original kamikaze drones, such as Lancet-1, Lancet-3 and Cub-UAV, and they are actively used during the special operation. However, their payload does not exceed 3 kg of TNT, and the payload of cruise missiles is about 500 kg of TNT, and clones of Iranian drones Geran-1 and Geran-2 with a payload of about 50 kg of TNT fit very well between light loitering ammunition and cruise missiles to destroy stationary targets such as autotransformers at electrical substations.

As they say, generals are always preparing for the last war.

Go fuck yourself, along with Bucha, Irpen, Kramatorsk and other Ukrainian provocations.

From your own post:


Drug testing is not illicit and usually "dangerous substances" called medicines are used. Studying cholera and the like is not illicit, clinical tests led by US, UK, Germany,... happen everyday across the world, particularly in Africa and Southeast Asia). You are basically accusing the US of conducting medical research.

Now, the documents uploaded are just official briefings that can be generated by the usual army of monkeys. Of course nobody is going to waste time following shit.

Now, would you like to talk about Bucha? Is that "Eastern Culture"?

 

You're doing it again.  Making shit up.

Russia has publicly admitted they suck at making drones.  It's taken Iran decades to get to the point they are at.  Russia would need a time machine to have the drone manufacturing capability equal to Iran.

https://iz.ru/1402199/2022-09-28/mo-zaiavilo-o-nesootvetstvii-trebovaniiam-bolshinstva-rossiiskikh-dronov

Please enlighten us why the glorious Russian military has resorted to using such an inferior Iranian product, instead of their own vastly superior drones or missiles.

I don't understand what psychological problems you have with Iran? I think the residents of Donetsk are unlikely to be tormented by the question of whose howitzer they are fired on every day - from American, Italian, French, Swedish or German. Yes, and Ukrainians do not think that they are very concerned that a cruise missile flew overhead - air, sea or land-based. But all of a sudden there is so much attention to the country where the flying lawn mowers are made. To console you somehow, I’ll say that this is definitely not an original Russian development - military acceptance in Russia would never have accepted such a miserable product as Geranium-2. I think this is a slightly modified and improved copy of the Iranian Shaheed-136, are you happy now?

It's one thing to repeat false claims that Russia has made.  You deserve the benefit of doubt, you can't blame an idiot for being so gullible.

But here you're just making shit up yourself, and that's truly pathetic. 

Yep. The United States has funded the activities of many biolaboratories around the world, including in Ukraine and Wuhan.

An investigation into the activities of US biolaboratories in Ukraine was blocked.

Your ass burns notably from these drones. Iran admitted that it supplied several drones to Russia before the special operation. This was enough to organize the production of these drones in Russia, which was done.

I talked about it here back in April, with links to evidence and sources! These links are still working, you can familiarize yourself with their contents.

Well, let's look at these definitions Anglo-Saxon:

In other words - but the shit is the same.

It's absurd because it doesn't match a dictionary definition of that word and you need to have a consensus on what words mean if you want to have a conversation with someone outside of your mirror.

If you make up a definition of word "shit" to mean "a sweet food made from sugar or chocolate", and start saying that you like to eat shit and that this is objective reality, it would still be laughable to everyone else.

As usual, no sources. As usual no argument given as to why would the US put any military facility, particularly such a sensitive type in Ukraine. If the RF has evidence they do not need to ask for permission to present it. Why would they ask the UN to back an investigation? Simple propaganda, no wonder other countries are not going to play along.

Case closed, move on to your next fake, for example, "nothing happened in Bucha" or "Kherson is the RF".

What investigation was blocked and how do you know Russian evidence was ignored?  

The international atomic energy agency just completed their instigation and said Russia is full of shit.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/iaea-inspectors-complete-in-field-verification-activities-at-three-ukraine-locations-no-indications-of-undeclared-nuclear-activities-and-materials


Or are you just doing that thing again here you make shit up and state it as fact, like here:


Iran says it shipped drones to Russia before Ukraine war
https://www.reuters.com/world/iran-acknowledges-drone-shipments-russia-before-ukraine-war-2022-11-05/

Oh no, Winnie doesn't agree with me, what will I do.

You do realize that Wuhan is not in Ukraine? Right? RIGHT? But it's ok if you don't. Here is your well deserved prize.




Not sure about mosquitos but lice attacks have been confirmed:

That's prety much same stuff like combat mosquitos and pigeons with chemical weapons, Ukraine preparing to use ''dirthy bomb'' or Tesla factory in Ukraine where missiles for HIMARS is produced. Russia already lied so much already that I'm not sure how someone still can seriously look in their claims. People who make such claims, indded, it's their integral featue to lie. And the rest of nation is just victims of brainwashing machine.

Anyway, IMO these organisations, including UN is just such pointless thing and most what they can do - say that they're deeply concerned.

Russia claims that it has documentary evidence. But the representatives of the United States, France and Great Britain in the UN Security Council refused to consider them and blocked the investigation. This is a very handy strategy for dealing with inconvenient facts - just declare them to be Putin's propaganda and pretend that the facts have ceased to exist after that.

I'm talking about the fact that China has expressed deep concern that such accusations are rejected without considering the arguments of the accusing party. It looks as if the US has the right to break the rules that all civilized countries, including the US, have agreed to abide by.