Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 219. (Read 73721 times)

Best argument i can see here is perhaps google translate got it wrong too?

You realize that you don't have to keep Z a saint and agree with every thing that he says, you can hold on to any remaining credibility you have left and just not comment, or argue that he made a mistake being under all that pressure etc... there are options besides everything Z says is holier than thou

Do you remember those nuclear torpedoes Russia has that TOP covered some time ago? Well, it looks like six of them are "out there," and we had no idea where.

Within the past few days, NATO issued a warning that the Belgorod – the largest submarine built within the past 40 years and equipped with the Russian Poseidon Unmanned Underwater Vehicle – had disappeared from the Arctic Circle.

There is one main theory we've seen covered so far with where the Belgorod is going: it's heading to the Kara Sea, where it's preparing to test the Poseidon in the Arctic Circle.

Whether it is or isn't, this doesn't bode well.

Remember that the Poseidon creates a nuclear tsunami, with a wall of radioactive water 1600 feet high. Also, remember that the Poseidon travels so fast – 108 knots – that it's largely deemed to be unstoppable once it's released.

On October 5th, Naval News confirmed (with quite a bit of sarcasm) that the Belgorod was indeed in the Arctic, in the Barents Sea. However, they could not rule out whether or not the Belgorod was there to perform a nuclear test.

Isn't something this powerful a thing we should keep track of?

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The source is not Kyiv Post, the source is the president's office.

Given that Ukraine doesn't have nukes and Russia does and Putler never did any "damage control" on his threats to use them, the accusation that Zelensky is starting a nuclear war is about as absurd as all the other Kremlin fantasies.

"Кaк этo былo дo 24 фeвpaля — пpeвeнтивныe yдapы. Чтoбы oни знaли. чтo c ними бyдeт, ecли oни иcпoльзyют [ядepнoe opyжиe], a нe нaoбopoт: ждaть ядepныx yдapoв Poccии, чтoбы пoтoм cкaзaть "Ax, ты тaк? Hy вoт пoлyчaй oт нac", — пoдчepкнyл пpeзидeнт. — Пepecмoтpeть пpимeнeниe cвoeгo дaвлeния — вoт чтo, я cчитaю, дoлжнo дeлaть HATO: пepecмoтpeть пopядoк пpимeнeния".

"Like it was before February 24 - pre-emptive strikes. So that they know what will happen to them if they use [nuclear weapons], and not vice versa: wait for Russian nuclear strikes, then to say," Oh, are you so? Well, take it from us," the President stressed. "Reconsider the application of its pressure - that's what I think NATO should do: reconsider the application."

“I once again appeal to the international community, as it was before February 24: preemptive strikes so that they [Russians] know what will happen to them [??] and not vice versa.”

Speaking via video link to the Australian Lowy Institute, Zelensky made his seemingly insane comments in response to a question from Lowy executive director Michael Fullilove.

"Mr. President, in your remarks you mentioned nuclear blackmail," Fullilove said. "Mr. Putin told us the other day that he's not bluffing. So may I ask you, do you believe that the likelihood of the use of Russian nuclear weapons against Ukraine has risen, and what more do you want NATO to do to deter Russia from using nuclear weapons?"

Zelensky replied that NATO should "eliminate the possibility of Russia using nuclear weapons".

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Lol kyivpost really? Did you just give up on any attempts at finding any resemblance of an unbiased source? Sounds like desperate attempt at a damage control, could we get a full transcript of the speech in its original, shouldn't be too hard to translate and see what was really said

Quit making shit up.


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Dude, you like to pose as as someone who can see things that others cannot - hate to break it to you: The US policy is very transparent, the German position on regards to it is known since ages you are just stating stuff that everyone knows years if not decades ago . Trump, who is a egomaniac even said it out loud: US does not like Germany to be a commercial partner of the RF while they depend on US for defence against them.

Your level of "analysis" and "dangerous questions". is equivalent to reading an 8 year old newspaper.

Now, you go back and read all the reasons why an RF attack is very likely (payback for EU help to Ukraine, rules of Mafia) and an US attack is very unlikely (basically an act of war to one of the few allies they have left) and try to make your case.

BTW, EU's answer to US cutting in spending while demanding more payments from EU, was "sure, but instead of paying NATO, we are going to create an EU army". Trump never raised the point again.


I am against war and killing. You have been justifying the RF aggression because is "a fight against capitalism".

Unfortunately, there are countries in which changes are possible and others in which, as of now it is not. The pressure from EU and US for social liberal policies is subject to reality checks, like most things in life.

And for the snipers to have a clear shot at the Orc Slaves backs.
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But it would be phenomenal if Zelensky got this prize after his recent statements about NATO "preemptive strikes" against Russia.
Any reasonable person understands that such actions can lead to a nuclear apocalypse and the destruction of all life on the planet.

In a speech on Oct. 6, President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that NATO’s goal was to make it impossible for Russia to use nuclear weapons. He made a broad appeal, stating: “I once again appeal to the international community, as it was before February 24: preemptive strikes so that they [Russians] know what will happen to them and not vice versa.”

Top Russian officials, including Maria Zakharova, a spokeswoman for the foreign minister, and Dmitry Peskov, a spokesperson for the Kremlin, charged Zelensky with inciting nuclear war.

Trying to provide reassurance that Ukraine would never advocate the deployment of nuclear weapons, Zelensky’s spokesperson Serhii Nykyforov clarified that the president was in fact referring to precautionary sanctions to be implemented prior to Russia’s full-scale invasion.

“Colleagues, you have come a little far away with your nuclear hysteria and now you hear nuclear strikes even where that was not said. The president spoke about the period until February 24. Then it was necessary to apply measures to prevent Russia from starting a war. Let me remind you that the only measures that were discussed at that time were preventative sanctions,” Nykyforov stressed.

“Only the terrorist state of Russia allows itself to blackmail the world… and hint in every possible way at the use of nuclear weapons. You will never hear such calls from Ukraine,” he added.

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the head of the President’s Office, said that Zelensky didn’t mention anything about a preemptive nuclear strike and that it was just another Russian fake.

“Another Russian fake. Not a single word from Zelensky about a preemptive nuclear strike on the Russian Federation,” Podolyak said. “Zelensky just reminded listeners of Russian nuclear blackmail and suggested that the world preemptively outline the consequences for Russia and strengthen strikes against the Russian Federation – sanctions and armed assistance.

For his part, Russian president Vladimir Putin has already threatened the Ukrainian counteroffensive with nuclear weapons.

On Sep. 21, Putin made a veiled nuclear weapons reference, stating: “When its territorial integrity is threatened, Russia will use everything it can – this is not a bluff.”

Or maybe you're wrong.  
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Or maybe you're wrong.  

Russia does keep keeps losing land.  They're had to give up on cities they've occupied since the spring - they were getting ready to start school with all the new Russian curriculum.  And then all the sudden the Russian military has to run away to avoid being encircled.  

Russian installed deputy head of Kherson region posted a video saying Putins defense minister should kill himself because he's fucked things up so badly.  Feel like that guy isn't going to be alive much longer either way.

The Nintendo Wiibloggers, who have been pushing Kremlin lines for years to millions are freaking out at how shitty Russias military is from top to bottom.

State media is starting to ask where all the funds went  that were supposed to be invested in the military.  (Although, I think they know the answer to that question)

You're more loyal to Putin than most of his own people.  

Out for a while.  Got back and re-evaluating.  I feel it time for another explainer on what is actually going on for those who get most of their info from the [J/N]ews.

As I said near the start of this thing, Russia has no reason to have any interest in most areas of Ukroidistan.  Who (aside from a particular tribe who embrace a religion which celebrates genocide) would want anything to do with a underdeveloped shit-hole full of nazis and scammers?  It makes no sense and never did.

NATO had their Ukroid tools play weak in hopes that Russia would over-extend.  As I predicted, Russia didn't.  They more or less sat on their hands for months and let the people who really wanted to fight (Wagner, Chechens, etc) do the minimal attacks.  Of course they picked off massive numbers of Ukdroids and armor with distance techniques.

When the Russians did move back they just use the Mongolian defense strategy of vacating and wiping out the attackers en-mass.  In addition to the creation of future 'cauldrons' thehe happy side effects of this are two-fold:

 - The waves of attacking Ukriods (and more and more, NATO) make a target rich environment.

 - The mock-victories give the dumb-fucks a false sense of progress and they act in an even more reckless way.  Arranging this scenario in more than one place simultaneously more than doubles the effect as NATO has to split the depleted resources (primarily Slavic biomass) down even more.

There are several reasons why the killed ratio is almost certainly better than 10/1 in Russia's favor.  One is simple skill, patience, and tactics.  The other, as I've said before, is that to the Ziocon designers the ratio is not a bug; it's a feature.

Russia probably does want and probably will have Kharkiv as a buffer zone at the least.  And they will get it without a fight.  They seem to be following my own cynical advice from some months ago:  Let the NaZiocons back in to oversea the secret police murders and a dark cold winter while their now-Russian former neighbors fill themselves on piping hot borscht.  Internal revolution by spring.  Just have to make sure that if there is a 'peace deal', it includes a referendum in Kharkiv.

It remains as much a mystery to me as ever whether the Russians will take Odessa.  If they don't I will be even more suspicious that this thing has been a scheme all along to arrange for what (((they))) refer to as the 'Heavenly Jerusalem Project' and Putin has been in on it all along.  The wanton depopulation of the Slavic populations in terms of the 'tactics' employed by the leadership it's already pretty suspicious.

He's anglosaxon

Random hobos from bitchute aren't mad enough so you need a screaming clown from youtube to tell you that to think.

Some food for thought

https://youtu.be/KwF5Y1oZrAw

And Bluesondine cures COVID... same sources (I am asking because you do not mention any). At the risk of wasting a few second of my valuable time on earth, most people do not die killed by other "eye to eye". Take WW II, 55 million civilians, 25 million military. That is what modern warfare looks like. An old warfare sometimes even worse (Romans were well known genocidal).

 Anyway, back to something that is not you and your ego: Today the RF gloriously made a "precision strike" on a building in Zaporiyia. A civilian building with no strategic value whatsoever that was, obviously, in use. Again, this is Mafia rules: senseless killing of civilians that makes no sense: it does not stop the war, does not provide any advantage nor is any other way beneficial for the RF war effort. Senseless destruction that not even animals engage in.

In modern times, there aren't many who are happy with being drafted. In the US, why we aren't drafting people for war ISN'T a mystery. It has to do with the fact that the Dem leaders and Biden are doing everything they can to destroy US preparedness for a REAL fight with ANY other nation. To see this, all you have to do is look at how they are running America's stock of self-defense materials into the ground by sending it into the Ukraine black hole... along with the money of the American people.

As far as billions have died in the past... check out Gobekli Tepe and her sister site, Karahan Tepe, that is even older. According to the latest and best understanding about how old GT is, it's about 11,500 years old. And It is well advanced beyond the prehistory standard that says that 10,000 years ago people were simple hunter-gatherers. Modern archaeology is only scratching the surface regarding how many people have lived in the past, ancient past, and prehistoric past.

According to what modern archaeology is finding out now, is the fact that earth has been populated for a lot longer, by people who were almost as capable of killing each other off as we are today. Up to the point of 2 or 3 decades ago, prehistoric people weren't smart enough to do much of anything beyond inventing the wheel. Now, we are finding that we were wrong in thinking that.

Certainly millions, but as many as billions, of people have died in past times... if you want to believe what modern archaeology has found over the last 2 or 3 decades... even if they don't want to rub their own faces in the realization of their former mistaken ideas.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/xwm9wm/russian_draftees_exasperated_abandoned_left_in/

Russia doesn't seem to care about the quality of its cannon fodder too much, lately.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1577930442694598657

Obviously, I am against it, it is not that I am blind to the world nor understand the use of violence and that you cannot accept being killed or enslaved without a fight. Well, unless you are an RF citizen being recruited, they seem to be fine with it.

Oh, you having reasonable success... bullshit if you say thinks that "billions have died looking at the bla bla..." but I will not waste time educating you on who, why and how many die in wars, your assertions have the same sense as all your other mumbling.