Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 229. (Read 77433 times)

Oh Yanukovych just resigned now did he? Is that how Ukrainian school books are being rewritten now, were the other alternatives "he just left on a very long vacation" and "he went out to get a pack of cigs"?

Everything was fine, Yanukovych resigned to pick up a pack of smokes and then Russian orcs showed up? No one could possibly predicted that majority that elected him could be a bit unhappy about that.
 
Just like i guess it must take some kind of a genius to predict that further escalations risk to destabilize EU altogether?

EUs 3rd economy becoming "euroskeptic" with "neo-fascist" roots, people might start asking questions soon, think majority would eat up that Putin did it as well? I guess US elections in November already have Putin written all over them?

If i may quote myself from May


Euro is now bellow parity hit $0,96 today, and GBP is about to hit parity, got down to $1,0373 the other day. So now USD is up over 30% against GBP since U.S. delivers written response to Russian demands amid Ukraine crisis...as Washington continues to pursue diplomacy aimed at diverting a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine. yes diplomacy at its best indeed.

So at first there was a claim that RU is not allowing civilians to leave Mariupol before they take the city, logic being cause that's just what Orcs do  

Then it gets better after claiming the following:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/14/ukraine-targets-russian-soldiers-threatening-nuclear-power-plant.html

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/06/world/ukraine-russia-war

And of course
https://nypost.com/2022/09/19/russia-endangers-the-whole-world-with-strike-on-nuclear-power-plant-in-ukraine/

Logic being because that's just what Orcs do? They take over a nuclear plant then shoot at it so they're forced to shut it down before winter starts


And just in case readers have any resemblance of brain cells or critical thinking left:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/07/ukraine-russia-scholz-biden-macron/

And now of course

https://www.foxnews.com/world/nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-likely-explosions-not-earthquakes-seismologist-says

Can't wait for coverage of Orcs blowing up their own pipelines which they stopped themselves. Logic being that's just what Orcs do? After stopping the gas flow, they blow up the pipeline to make sure they loose all of leverage over Germany for the winter

At least elected member of the European parliament and former Polish Defense Minister says how it is, before he's "shown the way" and claims hacks or a joke
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2022/09/27/us-blew-up-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1--2-says-former-polish-defense-minister

Wondering how low will EUR drop now

Meanwhile, the disconnect between the RF army chief Psychos and the diplomatic and civil side of the government is show again in the terrorist attacks against Nord Stream II.

My analysis is that Putin and the diplomatic arm could be thinking of selling gas to Europe while the Psychos are keen of breaking all ties an ensuring that it is not possible. Think of it, the RF does not need to blow the gas pipes to stop the supply. This is someone in the army making sure it cannot be back. There is certainly a fight in Moscow.


For Ukraine it is. They have been preparing since your Psychos and Orcs took Crimea and have plenty of help with training and supplies. RF has show their inability to hold supply lines beyond 200 km. I suspect many of these soldiers will desert out of mere hunger.



Are you aware that there is a 19 mile long queue in the Mongolian and Georgian borders? It seems it is not "some people", it is kind of "a lot of people". And make no mistake, these are not precisely the poor sods that have little skills and do not have enough to fly, these are the qualified professionals you need to run a country.

There is difference between the number of people living in RF and how many can you mobilise for a war that is not threatening the country before the depose Putin and the Psychos - probably in a very expedite way, like in the Menshevik revolution.




And somehow managed to do so without any evidence to be found by all the Trumpists, with even members of the Republican party stating on-record that they were being pressed to lie about the result, Mike Pence part of it!, with even Trump close family speaking of an actual conspiracy by Trump to cheat, with recorded evidence of a President of the United stated calling for violence, with recorded proof of armed groups, with security officers killed in the Capitol while Trump stood silent and sent no one to protect the temple of the US democracy. It is shameful for the US and it is not politics or partisanship, it goes well beyond.

As I have said many times, it would require so many people to be in a conspiracy that it would actually be more than half of the Americans - which would then would not require to do anything but just voting.

Anyway, you kind of believe that you can lie of confuse your way out of any situation, so I am not going to insist, it is not worth any more time.

I'm sure tvbcof would thank you for your experience with Norwegian psychiatrists, if he wasn't so busy gathering more info about what is going on in the world. You might try that sometime... gathering more info rather than being nipple fed.

^^^ Maybe rocket fuel is the reason Russia cut off gas to Europe. They are converting it to rocket fuel for the low-yield nukes, so they can take out individual HIMARS without harming the land with large amounts of radiation.

Oops! Accidentally hit a bunch of Ukraine Nazi soldiers.

If I were Putin and wished to 1) make a big statement, and 2) respond in kind to infrastructure sabotage, I certainly wouldn't even consider low-yield nukes.  Not even for the purposes of doing and EMP.

What I would do would be to start sweeping up satellites.  Russia is certainly no stranger to work in space.  It's always seemed to me that simple nets should be able to do the job to one degree or another.  My initial vision is to just have a device that rotates and feeds out a net which looks very much like a spider web.  Weights on the radial cords and the spin to open them up.  Deploy them on a vector which would converge with the computed path of the target satellite.  Wouldn't be much different than fishing the ocean, and the eco-tards assure us with confidence that almost all the fish are gone because of us bad bad humans and our destructive tendencies.

Probably Russian sats would be targeted as one (of many) responses, but when all is said and done Russia will probably be able to put up new ones more competitively.  Rocket fuel takes a lot of energy to produce after all.  In the mean time it seems pretty clear that the loss of space assets would dis-proportionally degrade the more 'advanced' militaries.  Use of nukes for anyone would hugely tarnish one's reputation worldwide for a long long time.  Inconveniencing people who just want to do a little porn surfing on their Viasat collaterally damaged connectivity is kind of a different story.

Sending thousands of untrained drunks armed with rusty kalashnikovs against HIMARS is indeed quite simple. Not very effective though.

To stop people from fleeing the country to avoid either fighting a war they aren't allowed to call a war or face 10 years in the gulag for refusing to fight in the war they can't call a war.

Bombing with high-explosive bombs was successfully used by Russia, in particular at Azovstal and near Kherson, where there is no threat to defeat civilians.

Ukraine somehow coped with the task of mobilizing more than 800k civilians, Russia has a simpler task.

I think you are too exalted by the local success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kharkov. Ukraine still has no chance in confrontation with Russia.

What for? Russia has a multiple greater mobilization resource than Ukraine, it's okay if some people go abroad, it's their choice.

There is good phrase that you shouldn't understimated your enemy. These drones might be slow and very loud, but so far they have done some significant damage. They fly at low altitude and missile defense systems can't detect them. It's possible to shoot it down with Stingers, but I seen video from Odessa where they are trying to shoot it down with machine guns.

Biden didn't do anything. Big Money used all kinds of vote/election fraud to do it. And we see the results, below. But big money doesn't care. And loads of Dem-tards don't understand, even after they are living in the streets.

EDIT: I would have said Biden-tards rather than Dem-tards, but there aren't loads of Biden anything except criminal activity.


Inflation under Biden, Democrats costing Americans more than $11,000 a year per household

Biden stopped Trump from being President, Trumptards will forever attack him at all costs.  Which fits perfectly with the Putin narrative.

The fact that people are in government, shows that they are a group of pushy people, no matter the government. You really need to look at the crooked things that Biden and the US government are doing to see that they are way worse than Putin could ever think of being.

Putin got Trump elected and pwnd the hell out of Hillary, Trumptards will forever defend him at all costs.  

Solid story for a comic book, as a bonus the new population may grow a third arm or gain superpowers.

This shit has already been nicknamed mopeds, it flies slowly and makes a lot of noise, they learned to shoot it down.
a very primitive copy of American and Israeli drones.


How are you different from the Nazis?
putin is a sick maniac killer .
You are a fascist and you will suffer a well-deserved punishment, russia actually lost this war, this is agony.
russia is a fascist country and is a terrorist.
This war is a clash of two polar opposite worlds, views, ideologies.
And Carthage must be destroyed.

^^^ Putin doesn't want to harm Ukraine. He simply wants to kick NATO and the US out. But he wants to do it without hurting the people of Ukraine.

It's a difficult thing that Putin is trying to do. The Ukrainian people tried to do it, but couldn't. So, they appealed to Russia. So, how do you get rid of the Zelensky coup which was set in place by the US and NATO, all the while protect the average people?

What Putin really needs to do is set a date. Announce it to the Ukrainian people. They have to move out of Ukraine by this date. Then, after all the people who are going to move out have done so, totally obliterate what is left of Ukraine... with nukes if necessary.

Then start over, with the people moving back to their lands that are no longer controlled by the US.

By now you must be aware that the "all powerful and glorious" RF Air Force is unable to do anything in Ukraine. Missiles are ok to destroy nurseries, commercial centres and the like but real military use requires precision not "precision". To put it plainly, the RF cannot raze anything to the ground. There was no option to "bomb" and instead the Junta took the non-decision of sequestering civilians and send them to die.

On regards to "synchronous"... funny that you mention that. The RF is absolutely unable to coordinate the deployment of 300k freshly recruited pretty much demotivated and unready poor bastards. Expect them to arrive late, unequipped, untrained, unmotivated, uncoordinated... This is the perfect recipe to destroy de population growth rate of the RF for the next 10 years.

Yet here you are, still on phase 1 "denial".

Why did Putin not close the borders? Perhaps the damage would have been excessive or perhaps this is designed to send abroad anyone who might actually dissent with the Psychos Junta.

Meanwhile it seems more and more likely that Putin is about to embarrass himself yet again, and cause the unnecessary death of thousands of innocent people that never wanted to be involved, yet again,  by trying to mobilize Russians (and Ukrainians lol) to join his military that already suffers from low morale to fight a war they aren't allowed to call a war.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-25



War is so fucking stupid.

Yup, he fucked the previously larger Ukraine and the drugged out oligarch/globalist butt-boy pretty good when he reached out and touched them.

Western Europe will probably be hit even harder, though in a different way.  Putin gave these idiots more than enough opportunity to live in peace and prosperity, but they insisted on flying moth-like into the Ziocon flame over and over again.  And now it's too late.

Meanwhile, summer rumors about deliveries of Shahid-136 kamikaze drones to Russia from Iran turned out to be true. They are called Geran-2 and have recently been actively used to strike at military infrastructure in Ukraine, in particular in Odessa. Drones are slow, loud, cheap (compared to cruise missiles), not homing (working at given coordinates), and yet they seem to be quite effective, Ukrainian air defense cannot do anything with them.

Symmetrical does not mean synchronous.

Even now I do not consider mobilization in Russia necessary. I think Putin had a choice in response to the mobilization in Ukraine - start mass bombing or increase the size of his group. Personally, I would prefer to raze Kyiv to the ground, but fortunately for you, I do not make decisions on this issue.