Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 225. (Read 77449 times)

tends to happen in most armies...Putin generals warned him that if he wants good army, he should be in perpetual state of war like USA or Israel,
but he obviously made mistake

Or maybe you're wrong.  

Russia does keep keeps losing land.  They're had to give up on cities they've occupied since the spring - they were getting ready to start school with all the new Russian curriculum.  And then all the sudden the Russian military has to run away to avoid being encircled.  

Russian installed deputy head of Kherson region posted a video saying Putins defense minister should kill himself because he's fucked things up so badly.  Feel like that guy isn't going to be alive much longer either way.

The Nintendo Wiibloggers, who have been pushing Kremlin lines for years to millions are freaking out at how shitty Russias military is from top to bottom.

State media is starting to ask where all the funds went  that were supposed to be invested in the military.  (Although, I think they know the answer to that question)

You're more loyal to Putin than most of his own people.  

I don't know about that, he doesn't look 1000 years old.

He's anglosaxon like you pretend to be, just smart

Random hobos from bitchute aren't mad enough so you need a screaming clown from youtube to tell you that to think.

Come on. In all of the hundred years of 1900 to 2000, there were only about 200 million people killed by their own governments. That's nothing compared with the many thousands of years back to and beyond Gobekli Tepe. Besides, the world population in the 1900s was big enough that the murdered-by-war were barely a drop in the proverbial bucket.

I mean, since you have looked at GT a little by now, there weren't merely 1 or 2 million people on earth back then... 11,500 years ago. GT and a whole bunch of other archaeological sites show that there were at least hundreds of millions, and maybe billions. Simply extrapolate a little. And they weren't at all ignorant, even if their thinking was along different lines than ours, scientifically.

As far as Russia making a strike on a civilian area - if they did - they wouldn't have done it if there weren't a war advantage against Ukraine somehow... like Ukraine soldiers hiding behind civilians again, or the civilian structures being used to house Ukraine military equipment of some sort.

That's war. Ukrainian civilians have had months to move out, difficult though it may be for them. If they're going to stay, what can they expect except that some of them are going be casualties in this war? What's interesting is that many of them know that the Ukraine military is using them as shields, but they would rather stay, virtually committing suicide, in their willing allegiance to Russia. "Mother made me what I am. Mother has the right to use me to take out her enemies, even if I die from it."

If it were Russia's aim to kill everybody off in Ukraine, they would have started using tactical baby nukes long ago. All the way back in the 1960s and 1970s the US was making small nukes the size of a breadbox. There is no way that Russia doesn't have technology like that, now.

And Bluesondine cures COVID... same sources (I am asking because you do not mention any)

Now that I think of it, you may be speaking in US "billions", 10^9 , while I am thinking of European Billions 10^12, so ok, I can accept American billions.

Still, at the risk of wasting a few second of my valuable time on earth, most people do not die killed by other "eye to eye". Take WW II, 55 million civilians, 25 million military. That is what modern warfare looks like. An old warfare sometimes even worse (Romans were well known genocidal).

 Anyway, back to something that is not you and your ego: Today the RF gloriously made a "precision strike" on a building in Zaporiyia. A civilian building with no strategic value whatsoever that was, obviously, in use. Again, this is Mafia rules: senseless killing of civilians that makes no sense: it does not stop the war, does not provide any advantage nor is any other way beneficial for the RF war effort. Senseless destruction that not even animals engage in.

It already becomes tradition, Russian army ''liberates'' Zaitseve village every month. C'mon, Konashnenkov, put some creativity into your work, you're starting to repeat too often.


Russia doesn't cares about their troops and threats them worse than animals - surprises, surprise. And winter is coming. But who needs quality when they have quantity, that's Russian logic

Some food for thought

https://youtu.be/KwF5Y1oZrAw

In modern times, there aren't many who are happy with being drafted. In the US, why we aren't drafting people for war ISN'T a mystery. It has to do with the fact that the Dem leaders and Biden are doing everything they can to destroy US preparedness for a REAL fight with ANY other nation. To see this, all you have to do is look at how they are running America's stock of self-defense materials into the ground by sending it into the Ukraine black hole... along with the money of the American people.

As far as billions have died in the past... check out Gobekli Tepe and her sister site, Karahan Tepe, that is even older. According to the latest and best understanding about how old GT is, it's about 11,500 years old. And It is well advanced beyond the prehistory standard that says that 10,000 years ago people were simple hunter-gatherers. Modern archaeology is only scratching the surface regarding how many people have lived in the past, ancient past, and prehistoric past.

According to what modern archaeology is finding out now, is the fact that earth has been populated for a lot longer, by people who were almost as capable of killing each other off as we are today. Up to the point of 2 or 3 decades ago, prehistoric people weren't smart enough to do much of anything beyond inventing the wheel. Now, we are finding that we were wrong in thinking that.

Certainly millions, but as many as billions, of people have died in past times... if you want to believe what modern archaeology has found over the last 2 or 3 decades... even if they don't want to rub their own faces in the realization of their former mistaken ideas.

The hunt for internal enemies of the state is in full swing, this will be glorious. And some of the loudest voices demanding for "heads to roll" seem genuinely convinced that replacing some individuals (like Shoigu) would fix the problems, despite evidence pointing to systemic decades-long issues affecting every part of the military.

As for Prigozhin... he's been flooding the intertubes with tales of his forces taking one town (Bahmut) for weeks now, making it seem like it's the only part of the military that's succeeding right now. Except the town has no strategic significance and they moved like 100 meters and the whole thing is likely a sham to get more funding for his PMC while the mobilized masses aren't getting even the basics. Russian oligarchy in a nutshell.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/xwm9wm/russian_draftees_exasperated_abandoned_left_in/

Russia doesn't seem to care about the quality of its cannon fodder too much, lately.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1577930442694598657

It's not going to end well for the mobilized. Citicens betrayed by leaders glorifying the Soviet Union.
Let that sink in.

EDIT: The first video seemed to be propagated by Telegram channels from affilates of the Wagner group (Prigoshin). Rumors say that these kind of videos are used by Wagner to discredit Sergei Shoigu.

I care about all people in general - more about the ones I consider closer. I have Ukrainian friends and one Russian friend and whish the no harm, nor for that matter anything bad to anyone on reason of ideology, ethnicity or origin.

The reason why I graphically describe the likely end of RF soldiers in the Ukrainian front is because I want anyone who still reads this to understand the crude reality of the front and the fact that they will die for nothing. RF citizens have the right to the truth and it is not their government of the trolls here who will give it to them.


You mean... All the orcs running away is a trap! Oh... how are we so blind thinking that RF army is on the run and Adolf Putin enslaving new untrained and unwilling recruits is just because this operation is botched and has failed miserably... you are right, Ukraine has to stop and surrender.

Now that I think of it, how do you surrender to someone who is running the other way? You would need to run after them... that's it! The Ukrainian army is surrendering en-mass, they just have to run faster to let the Orcs know.

Yes! RF will take Odessa. They will rebuild the Moskva in a week, go back to Snake Island and then take Odessa no doubt.


Obviously, I am against it, it is not that I am blind to the world nor understand the use of violence and that you cannot accept being killed or enslaved without a fight. Well, unless you are an RF citizen being recruited, they seem to be fine with it.

Oh, you having reasonable success... bullshit if you say thinks that "billions have died looking at the bla bla..." but I will not waste time educating you on who, why and how many die in wars, your assertions have the same sense as all your other mumbling.

I think you are too conservative. It seems that Russia's submarine, the Belgorod, has left port and is sailing... where?

If this is only a Russian test, great. But we don't know that. Of course, the US navy doesn't reveal most of what they know.

The point being that the Belgorod might be moving into position to launch its Poseidon torpedoes... if it hasn't already launched them, and the Belgorod is simply out there watching over its 'brood'.

Anyway, this whole Russia vs. US thing is becoming very unfunny.

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It's wonderful to see this attitude. Many of us who have had reasonable life success are not really in favor of this attitude.

In history, especially before the advent of the gun, many people (millions or billions) have looked into the eyes of the person running the sword through their abdomen, and saluted their enemy mentally, before they died and existed no longer.

Millions - maybe billions. So, I salute you that you can have this 'peace' attitude, even if (as) it kills you.

Tell that to someone else...your comments sound like you have orgasms over death of Russians...and I'm pretty sure
you don't care about Ukrainians, its just not opportunistic because of current "reality check"

Out for a while.  Got back and re-evaluating.  I feel it time for another explainer on what is actually going on for those who get most of their info from the [J/N]ews.

As I said near the start of this thing, Russia has no reason to have any interest in most areas of Ukroidistan.  Who (aside from a particular tribe who embrace a religion which celebrates genocide) would want anything to do with a underdeveloped shit-hole full of nazis and scammers?  It makes no sense and never did.

NATO had their Ukroid tools play weak in hopes that Russia would over-extend.  As I predicted, Russia didn't.  They more or less sat on their hands for months and let the people who really wanted to fight (Wagner, Chechens, etc) do the minimal attacks.  Of course they picked off massive numbers of Ukdroids and armor with distance techniques.

When the Russians did move back they just use the Mongolian defense strategy of vacating and wiping out the attackers en-mass.  In addition to the creation of future 'cauldrons' thehe happy side effects of this are two-fold:

 - The waves of attacking Ukriods (and more and more, NATO) make a target rich environment.

 - The mock-victories give the dumb-fucks a false sense of progress and they act in an even more reckless way.  Arranging this scenario in more than one place simultaneously more than doubles the effect as NATO has to split the depleted resources (primarily Slavic biomass) down even more.

There are several reasons why the killed ratio is almost certainly better than 10/1 in Russia's favor.  One is simple skill, patience, and tactics.  The other, as I've said before, is that to the Ziocon designers the ratio is not a bug; it's a feature.

Russia probably does want and probably will have Kharkiv as a buffer zone at the least.  And they will get it without a fight.  They seem to be following my own cynical advice from some months ago:  Let the NaZiocons back in to oversea the secret police murders and a dark cold winter while their now-Russian former neighbors fill themselves on piping hot borscht.  Internal revolution by spring.  Just have to make sure that if there is a 'peace deal', it includes a referendum in Kharkiv.

It remains as much a mystery to me as ever whether the Russians will take Odessa.  If they don't I will be even more suspicious that this thing has been a scheme all along to arrange for what (((they))) refer to as the 'Heavenly Jerusalem Project' and Putin has been in on it all along.  The wanton depopulation of the Slavic populations in terms of the 'tactics' employed by the leadership it's already pretty suspicious.

Dude, you like to pose as as someone who can see things that others cannot - hate to break it to you: The US policy is very transparent, the German position on regards to it is known since ages you are just stating stuff that everyone knows years if not decades ago . Trump, who is a egomaniac even said it out loud: US does not like Germany to be a commercial partner of the RF while they depend on US for defence against them.

Your level of "analysis" and "dangerous questions". is equivalent to reading an 8 year old newspaper.

Now, you go back and read all the reasons why an RF attack is very likely (payback for EU help to Ukraine, rules of Mafia) and an US attack is very unlikely (basically an act of war to one of the few allies they have left) and try to make your case.

BTW, EU's answer to US cutting in spending while demanding more payments from EU, was "sure, but instead of paying NATO, we are going to create an EU army". Trump never raised the point again.


I am against war and killing. You have been justifying the RF aggression because is "a fight against capitalism".

Unfortunately, there are countries in which changes are possible and others in which, as of now it is not. The pressure from EU and US for social liberal policies is subject to reality checks, like most things in life.

You take them too seriously...they're just trolls and cheer for all dead Slavs, be it Ukrainians or Russians

And as you noticed, they're pretty picky which country women rights to demand, and which country women rights they don't care about

"Adolf Putin is desperate enough to sell gas to EU" so Putin would be desperate to sell gas and Germany would help him out by buying it, because the rules of the mafia world? And knowing that beforehand, he blows up his own direct pipeline to Germany so they'd have to ask permission and pay Ukraine or Poland to transfer more gas to Germany? Did i understand you correctly?

As far as US pushing EU to diversify its energy resources from RU, now you're starting to open up your eyes, think macro level and ask very dangerous questions. Careful, real world is not pretty and dangerous questions might lead to disillusionment and why everyone cares about Ukraine all of a sudden.

April 2008
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/world/europe/03nato.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24690055

August 2008
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Georgia-s-oil-pipeline-is-key-to-U-S-support-3201499.php



Now take a wild guess which country holds/held? the second largest gas reserves in Europe after Norway and transited more natural gas than any other country in the world? Here's a hint The Yuzivska gas field is an unconventional Ukrainian natural gas field that was discovered in 2010...Region: Donetsk Oblast Kharkiv Oblast

And in 2013 we have American cookies in Ukraine supporting the coup against RU leaning UA president


What amazing coincidences, ok so if RU is #1 in world gas reserves, lets check on who is #2, I'm sure things must be amazing there right no... oh right it's Iran, July 27, 2022 Iran’s natural gas exports revenues in the four months to late July have exceeded figures reported for the entire calendar year to March what a great time to start worrying about women rights there, can someone ask Saudis not to stone any women to death or dismember any journalist this month?

And for the snipers to have a clear shot at the Orc Slaves backs.

Ukraine's tactics are improving. From replying to every artillery shot with a shot to striking the single failure points of the Slave Orc's supply lines to the point that they cannot be reinforced nor resupplied. I wonder who is advising them and providing all that intelligence... one could think that Ukraine has its own satellite network uh?