Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 25. (Read 73357 times)

The Ukrainian problem is much larger than the environs of Pokrovsk. Russia's current strategy seems to be to attack in all directions across the entire width of the front, avoiding excessive efforts in areas with strong resistance. And this strategy is successful because Russia has a noticeable numerical advantage, while Ukraine is uselessly burning up its reserves trying to hold a bridgehead in the Kursk region.

Russia launched a diversionary strike in the Kharkov direction to draw the enemy's resources away from the Donbas - and it worked. Ukraine launched a mirror-symmetrical response in the Kursk region to draw the enemy's resources away from the Donbas - and it didn't work.

We need to do something near Pokrovsk, the front is collapsing. Yesterday, the commander of some Azov unit said that everything is falling apart and not as beautiful as the authorities say. If this goes on, the city will be taken without a fight.

Ukraine is getting over 100 glide bombs thrown at them every single day, not much trenches can do when Russia is moving only one km/day like that. Like you previously said it was either loose slowly or try something radical. Boris somehow once again managed to convince Zelenskiy to attack instead of negotiating and saving lives. Selling point was that i'd be impossible for Putin to let the insult go unavenged, well then i guess the impossible happened


The terrible part is that now after they didn't get the expected results, they're trying to double down and get US to let them use missiles to attack Moscow Kyiv wants to launch Anglo-French Storm Shadow missiles at Russia’s heartlands as ‘demonstration’ attacks Luckily Biden has only few months left and can't really escalate now for the fear of reinforcing Trumps narrative that he's the only one that can prevent WW3.

Edit: As far as economic pain Russian economy shows solid growth despite Ukraine war sanctions. The Russian economy has shown solid growth in many sectors while unemployment remains at a record low, new data showed on Wednesday, prompting officials to hint at a brighter outlook for the year despite Western sanctions over the war in Ukraine.

Prokhorov's is getting ugly to be honest. Everyone is wondering where does the Ukrainian command intend to put a more solid defence and I am struggling to understand why the F*** they are not building a proper trench system. Trenches if unmanned do not stop shit, but it is far easier to defend. To give proper credit, it is the first thing the Ruzzians did in Kursk, well away from the front - a different thing is if they are going to find operatives that will not run when attacked, but at least they dig-in.

I have heard some people speaking of an adaptive defence that sacrifices land to create more losses to the enemy. This might be intentional - Ukraine in Prokovsk - along with Kursk to try force a new mobilisation in Ruzzia that may be just too much. Syrskyi is not stupid and understands the Ruzzian style of war perfectly, there may be more that it meets the eye on this.

Overall, I think the Kursk offensive was a good idea. It buys cheap land where it can be bought. Achieving a similar territorial advance not to mention the prisoners captured takes months and thousand of dead anywhere else in the front. It is a trade card.

What Ukraine is doing well is causing economic pain. If the new ballistic missile - home grown = can be used it will cause even more economic pain and much closer to places that actually matter for Putin's regime. It will not win the war on its own, but it will give a very good incentive in a negotiating table.

btw, today another massive oil facility has been hit. We could bet for how many days is this one going to burn.



I still see a 2025 of fight, and I wish I am wrong.


Crashed, not taken down, it is written right there in big letters at the top - but I guess you are interpreting to fit your own narrative.

 I do not know what is worse, but crashed. Bad for the pilot, but the good thing about the f16.. there must be thousands out there gathering dust. It is like Bradleys... so many many many.  However, you also should look at the number of interceptions, that may give you a clue of how intensively the f16 are helping stopping cruise missiles and drones.

Unfortunately, Ukraine lost one F-16, together with pilot. It happened on Monday, during massive missile and drones attack. Plane wasn't hit, pilot made mistake and crashed. It's very sad, considering how long they waited for it, how little they got and how long it takes to prepare pilot:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/29/europe/ukraine-f16-crashes-intl/index.html
And seems that things in Pokrovsk direction is getting worse each day, Russia is advancing without much resistance
https://t.me/arrowsmap/5694?single
Like I already said, I don't understand Kursk operation when such things is happening there.
I expect it's going to be good, but not game changer unfortunately. Ukraine is making quality weapons, but when it comes to mass production, there is main problem. Ukraine is capabble to produce only small number of it. Especially when we talk about missiles. This why there is such little use of Neptune missiles.

The hypocrisy and double standards of those who claim to support peace but are cheering on the war in Ukraine is at legendary level.



The truth of the matter is that both the occupation of Palestine and the war in Ukraine are perpetrated by the same people.  Ukraine is the Zionist's backup plan.  They're bracing themselves for the inevitability of getting kicked out of the Middle East.  Before that happens they want to make sure to decimate the population of Ukraine, specifically reducing the number of fighting age Cristian White men.

Both wars are void of any benefit to the American people despite the bombardment of state propaganda.  Still, we're the ones bankrolling both.  If you consider yourself an American patriot and support either of these wars (or both, for many so-called conservatives,) you're a brainwashed retard.  Or a Jew.

"collaborating with a hostile nation. The question is how far has that collaboration gone"
Durov gets charged with complicity in the distribution of child sex abuse images, aiding organized crime and refusing lawful orders to give information to law enforcement. and released on bail. Which charge sounds like collaboration with a hostile nation and treason to you exactly? How many people do you know that are accused of treason given a tiny bail and not seen as a risk of flight? I'm just underlining your hypocrisy and your need to defend everything that's done by the west. It's as if you're unable to admit that a western countries are putting pressure on the freedoms of their citizens. As to your whataboutism, do you apply the same expectations of freedom on "west" as you do on Russia?

The Minsk Agreement had already been violated by Ukraine, influenced by the US. It was no longer in effect because of this. So, Putin merely took advantage of the situation.

I will concede that Minsk violations are a complex issue. If we want to know who was first in breaking it, we will need to do a lot of studying of history. Which historian can we believe?

Due process in France (shooters are policemen, for those not knowing about Mesrine case):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1gxBlWpK0

Meanwhile, first F16 already down

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/38166

He is getting all his rights, he has been accused, detained, faced a judge and considered that the risk of flight is sufficiently covered by a tiny 5M bail - I do not know why the judge has made that decision but usually it means that he does not see risk of flight.

Eventually either the charges are dropped or he will get sentenced after a trial in which evidence would need to be presented.. or he may walk. This is a text-book process in formal terms, there is nothing wrong with it. There rest is as usual you confusing your thinking with things that actually happen.

So...

1. at the same time you argue that he should be judged, but not set free by a judge on bail? You have stopped to make sense, do you realise it?
2. You are willing to discuss this, but not Navalny... nor people arrested for holding a blank piecce of paper? Or the many generals accused of corruption in a country where every general is corrupt?

Is Ukraine's new ballistic missile, a miracle weapon, surprising? If it goes into the series, then it turns out to be a formidable weapon.

Putin violated the Minsk agreement, he sent equipment silently to Donbass to be banned, but he was noticed. So Russia is to blame for starting all this and not playing fair.

Then shouldn't he be charged with treason and proven guilty in the court of law, or is that not being done anymore and instead they just throw some made up charges at him?

Edit: And now France releasing traitors on bail?  Can you translate this too please 

You are not Ukranian, you do not know anything other what your local methodist maga-integrist tells you when you pee together. Leave Ukraine alone.

^^^ Thank you, paxmao. You are continually showing us how patient Russia is against people who harm them.

Consider. Ukraine was killing peaceful Russians in the Donbas area since before 2014... including incursions into Russia itself. But the peacefulness and patience of Russia caused them to try every method outside of an actual forceful policing of Ukraine insurgency to stop Ukraine's viciousness. But it didn't work. So the 2022 police action into Ukraine.

BTW, Putin did it all legally through the UN with UN paperwork. You really need to look and see who the bad guys are in this whole war.

I will translate it for you: Espionage -  a crime in any and all nations, AKA treason if you are a citizen. I am not sure why France and why now, they may have information I do not have (I mean, I am sure they do). But if you want to dig into the topic of political prisoners... I mean, are you sure you want to discuss it??

Now to some topics of interest today:

- It took 15 years to build the depots at Novoprokovsk, it has now been burning for 8 days. Literally burning Ruzzian money.
- A power plant south of Moscow is burning - reason unknown.
- Ukraine has presented a ballistic missile, nationally produced, that claims to have range to reach Moscow & St Petesbourgh. If true, no need to ask for permission from the US any longer. This came out in the long interview with Zelensky.
- There are some information pointing at the F-16 in Ukraine claiming some kills - but it is just cruise missiles.
- The Ruzzian offensive in the donbas continues, it seems that allocating troops to Kursk is not a priority... so Kursk is on its way to become "The Republic of Northern Ukraine".

"collaborating with a hostile nation" hard to make that into more of a political arrest, having little to do with the actual charges brought up against him. So much for an independent judicial system.

Meanwhile, women in Odessa trying to free their abducted relatives
from Ukrainian army:

https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/14987

They will go to meat grinder instead, and die in human wave charge
against Russians

...any purpose...

   https://www.bitchute.com/video/3otYawmS52tZ

So you support ALL separatists everywhere, except Russian ones in Donbas.
Call me crazy, but I am starting to see a pattern here

Is that pattern maybe fueled by this?

"Ukraine wants to receive 50 billion dollars from the G7 without conditions and for any purpose by the end of the year - Ukrainian Prime Minister Shmyhal.
Money Trail - Ukrainian debt is apparently becoming a lucrative and highly profitable asset for war profiteering speculators.
The British investment fund said that Western investors and funds are making significant profits from Ukrainian "junk" bonds.
For example bonds of "Naftogaz", "Ukrainian Railways" and "Metinvest" brought investors incomes of 73%, 52% and 19%, respectively.
According to the British fund, the high returns are the result of the fact that these debts are repaid with financial help from Europe, which, despite
 their junk status, makes them very reliable and profitable. In essence, German taxpayers are funding aid to Ukraine, and that money
ends up in the hands of British funds that actually own Ukraine."