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legendary
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September 04, 2024, 02:48:10 PM

A special military operation in white gloves, as some on this forum call it, has claimed dozens of civilian lives in the past two days - cowards who can't even defend their country from afar have bombarded civilian targets across Ukraine claiming to target military targets. You who post emoticons and laugh at the victims obviously share the opinion of some structures in Russia that killing Ukrainian children is a justified tactic.

Who does that?  Got examples?...


It is all over the internet and news.
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Again, got examples?...


There is nothing difficult to understand in this aspect of war.


Again, examples?  Of emoticons posted by people gloating over the deaths of Ukrainian civilians?  C'mon, I mean they are supposed to be 'all over the internet and news', right?

legendary
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September 04, 2024, 01:55:25 PM

A special military operation in white gloves, as some on this forum call it, has claimed dozens of civilian lives in the past two days - cowards who can't even defend their country from afar have bombarded civilian targets across Ukraine claiming to target military targets. You who post emoticons and laugh at the victims obviously share the opinion of some structures in Russia that killing Ukrainian children is a justified tactic.

Who does that?  Got examples?  There is a strong correlation between those who lean toward the Russia side and those who view civilian collateral damage, even if it is errant NATO air defense missiles, with sadness.  As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I personally side ever more strongly with Russia is because they are quite a professional militarily in this regard where NATOkraine is won't hesitate to rain cluster munitions on civilian market places at every opportunity.
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It is all over the internet and news.
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Again, got examples?  To the extent that I see examples, it's almost always from the Ukronazi side, and even the few cases otherwise the provider of the content often seem quite sketchy as though they could be part of a false-flag influence operation.

I know it's hard to comprehend by your average Ukronazi, but most people are actually fairly humane and do not welcome accidental collateral damage, much less deliberate war crimes, against civilians no matter what their ethnicity.  That seems to be primarily a Ukronazi thing (so far), but if you a creature of certain of the Ukrainian bottom feeder classes, and/or are immersed in viewing and creating content which appeals to these classes, you may well have lost sight of this reality.

Nuland/Nudelman and her people had a solid 8 years to take an already damaged population over the edge before the shooting started and they made the most of their time:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/nHOCCYzZQFDD

As best I can tell, most people, including most Russians, are simply sad to see how so many probably simple and decent Ukrainians were taken to such depths of misery from even pre-Soviet times and carrying through to this day.  There must be some evil force which has circulated around that area for a loooong time.  I wonder what it could be?



There is nothing difficult to understand in this aspect of war. Barbarism is simple and straightforward and there is no refinement in what Ruzzia does. What amazes me is that you expect sources other than the sources you do not like. Do you expect Ruzzia to make claims about how Ruzzia is committing war crimes. Which sources do you think are going to make public the war crimes?Huh

Just use google or duck-duck. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/2/at-least-47-injured-in-russian-missile-attack-on-kharkiv-sports-centre

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Seven children were among the injured with the youngest just three months old.

“Several people are in a very serious condition,” Ukrainska Pravda reported the mayor as saying.

He added that rescue teams and ambulances who responded to the call also came under fire.

Civilian target, double-tap attack so no mistake, no interception... it is what it is.

And now the trolls here will go about the usual ritual:

a. It was Ukraine attacking Ukraine.
b. It was Ukraine intercepting the Ruzzia drone and hitting themselves.
c. It never happened it is propaganda.
d. The US did worse in... (whereever).
e. Israel is doing this in Gaza.
f. It was an Ukrainian military installation.

etc, etc, etc.... It is always the same.
legendary
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September 04, 2024, 12:51:54 PM

A special military operation in white gloves, as some on this forum call it, has claimed dozens of civilian lives in the past two days - cowards who can't even defend their country from afar have bombarded civilian targets across Ukraine claiming to target military targets. You who post emoticons and laugh at the victims obviously share the opinion of some structures in Russia that killing Ukrainian children is a justified tactic.

Who does that?  Got examples?  There is a strong correlation between those who lean toward the Russia side and those who view civilian collateral damage, even if it is errant NATO air defense missiles, with sadness.  As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I personally side ever more strongly with Russia is because they are quite a professional militarily in this regard where NATOkraine is won't hesitate to rain cluster munitions on civilian market places at every opportunity.
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It is all over the internet and news.
...

Again, got examples?  To the extent that I see examples, it's almost always from the Ukronazi side, and even the few cases otherwise the provider of the content often seem quite sketchy as though they could be part of a false-flag influence operation.

I know it's hard to comprehend by your average Ukronazi, but most people are actually fairly humane and do not welcome accidental collateral damage, much less deliberate war crimes, against civilians no matter what their ethnicity.  That seems to be primarily a Ukronazi thing (so far), but if you a creature of certain of the Ukrainian bottom feeder classes, and/or are immersed in viewing and creating content which appeals to these classes, you may well have lost sight of this reality.

Nuland/Nudelman and her people had a solid 8 years to take an already damaged population over the edge before the shooting started and they made the most of their time:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/nHOCCYzZQFDD

As best I can tell, most people, including most Russians, are simply sad to see how so many probably simple and decent Ukrainians were taken to such depths of misery from even pre-Soviet times and carrying through to this day.  There must be some evil force which has circulated around that area for a loooong time.  I wonder what it could be?

legendary
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September 04, 2024, 12:04:41 PM

A special military operation in white gloves, as some on this forum call it, has claimed dozens of civilian lives in the past two days - cowards who can't even defend their country from afar have bombarded civilian targets across Ukraine claiming to target military targets. You who post emoticons and laugh at the victims obviously share the opinion of some structures in Russia that killing Ukrainian children is a justified tactic.

Who does that?  Got examples?  There is a strong correlation between those who lean toward the Russia side and those who view civilian collateral damage
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It is all over the internet and news. Ruzzia has run of ways of threatening and achieving military results above what they have been doing last year. So all they have left when they think Ukraine has done something they do not like is to be barbaric and start hitting civil targets - including an orphanage and a shopping mall in the last few days.

It is just pure brutality and anger and it comes from not being able to actually defend their own country and knowing the very limited results achieved during last year together with not having real escalation options as they are already throwing everything they can.
legendary
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September 04, 2024, 10:18:06 AM

A special military operation in white gloves, as some on this forum call it, has claimed dozens of civilian lives in the past two days - cowards who can't even defend their country from afar have bombarded civilian targets across Ukraine claiming to target military targets. You who post emoticons and laugh at the victims obviously share the opinion of some structures in Russia that killing Ukrainian children is a justified tactic.

Who does that?  Got examples?  There is a strong correlation between those who lean toward the Russia side and those who view civilian collateral damage, even if it is errant NATO air defense missiles, with sadness.  As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I personally side ever more strongly with Russia is because they are quite a professional militarily in this regard where NATOkraine is won't hesitate to rain cluster munitions on civilian market places at every opportunity.

I do get that Military people have bunkers, body armor, and so on which makes them harder to kill so Ukraine tends toward targeting civilians.  I think that Ukraine would probably be in somewhat better shape militarily if they would not waste so much ordnance targeting civilians, however, and put more focus on trying to deter the military who is now stream-rolling toward the Donbass borders.  Especially since the insult of having war crimes committed against the Russian nation could well mean that they just don't stop at Donbass, or even at the Dnieper river banks.  You reap what you sow.



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September 04, 2024, 09:50:48 AM
A special military operation in white gloves, as some on this forum call it, has claimed dozens of civilian lives in the past two days - cowards who can't even defend their country from afar have bombarded civilian targets across Ukraine claiming to target military targets. You who post emoticons and laugh at the victims obviously share the opinion of some structures in Russia that killing Ukrainian children is a justified tactic.



legendary
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September 03, 2024, 06:38:05 PM
Poor Ukraine. The US is backing out from under them.

In these three years of war, there is only one front in which Ukrainians have been consistently winning, and that, of course, is the MSM’s headlines.


After Ukrainians AGAIN Ask for Permission To Shoot US Missiles Deep Into Russian Territory, Biden Regime Replies That They Are ‘Running Out of ATACMS’ To Give Them



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/after-ukrainians-again-ask-permission-shoot-us-missiles/
It seems that the Ukrainians insistence on asking for authorization to shoot US-provided missiles into targets deep into Russian territory my be getting to the nerves of Joe Biden and his administration.

By now, it is widely understood that Kiev's objective with the missile strikes inside Russia is to drag the US and NATO into an ultimate escalation that is – by now – the only way to 'save' the current regime from final military defeat in the war.

So last week Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov was in DC, where he says the Biden administration 'is still considering' his request 'to lift restrictions' on firing long-range weapons to strike targets deep inside Russian territory.
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sr. member
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September 03, 2024, 09:23:57 AM
Russia denazzified few more ukronazzis in a strikes against military industry:

https://odysee.com/@SouthFront:4/russian-strikes-pounded-giants-of-ukrainian-military-industry-in-kyiv:0


Edit: and more than 600 here

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/121904
legendary
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September 03, 2024, 06:59:33 AM
Poor Ukrainianss get denazzified left and right in Kursk...more than 5000 already:

https://odysee.com/@WarMaps:c/Destrucci%C3%B3nes-de-vehiculos-e-infanteria-ucraniana-en-Kursk:7

Ukrainians are fucked well, their dick is fucked with a Russian ass Smiley

Video suggests otherwise

Sure Branko, Ukrainians are having such a bad moment in Kursk... they are taking village after village, with minimal and very localised resistance or untrained Ruzzian troops... But of course, your video shows an alternate reality along with suggested videos of "Zelensky trapped in Kursk"... Not surprised.

I guess you are going to have a hard job convincing anyone that Ukraine has issues in Kursk and some war porn is not going to cut it.
sr. member
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September 03, 2024, 04:55:40 AM
Poor Ukrainianss get denazzified left and right in Kursk...more than 5000 already:

https://odysee.com/@WarMaps:c/Destrucci%C3%B3nes-de-vehiculos-e-infanteria-ucraniana-en-Kursk:7

Ukrainians are fucked well, their dick is fucked with a Russian ass Smiley

Video suggests otherwise
newbie
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September 03, 2024, 04:26:35 AM
Poor Ukrainianss get denazzified left and right in Kursk...more than 5000 already:

https://odysee.com/@WarMaps:c/Destrucci%C3%B3nes-de-vehiculos-e-infanteria-ucraniana-en-Kursk:7

Ukrainians are fucked well, their dick is fucked with a Russian ass Smiley
sr. member
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September 03, 2024, 03:59:52 AM
Poor Ukrainianss get denazzified left and right in Kursk...more than 5000 already:

https://odysee.com/@WarMaps:c/Destrucci%C3%B3nes-de-vehiculos-e-infanteria-ucraniana-en-Kursk:7
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September 03, 2024, 03:11:50 AM
This thread should really be ignored from now on. The BS that Ukraine has any strength left only encourages further destruction of her troops. And, it might be encouraging WW3. So, drop the thread before more damage is done.

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What kind of damage? There are no red lines and there will be no nuclear strikes Smiley
legendary
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September 02, 2024, 04:02:31 PM
I don't believe anyone is advocating for more or prolonged conflict, but it's clear that Russia's attempts to cause global unrest aren't succeeding in this era. We're beyond the days of oppression; every individual and nation deserves their freedom. It's unfortunate that rival powers like China couldn't help Russia achieve its goals. Regardless, we should not celebrate war. let's focus on discussing peace and how we can achieve it

OMG, China has helped Ruzzia, they just did not (could not help enough). Perhaps the only positive effect is that they probably have insisted on avoiding nukes.

Now, of course there are many who are in favour of a prolonged war because there are many who profit from it. And then, there's this guy called Putin whose ego and probably his physical integrity will not accept anything that looks like a balanced deal or even anything that looks like a minor "victory". That is not there at the moment in the battlefield, so... until Ruzzia collapses, Putin dies or Ukraine reaches an untenable situation... none of that seems to be happening just now.
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September 02, 2024, 02:58:22 PM
I don't believe anyone is advocating for more or prolonged conflict, but it's clear that Russia's attempts to cause global unrest aren't succeeding in this era. We're beyond the days of oppression; every individual and nation deserves their freedom. It's unfortunate that rival powers like China couldn't help Russia achieve its goals. Regardless, we should not celebrate war. let's focus on discussing peace and how we can achieve it
legendary
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September 02, 2024, 02:40:03 PM
This thread should really be ignored from now on. The BS that Ukraine has any strength left only encourages further destruction of her troops. And, it might be encouraging WW3. So, drop the thread before more damage is done.

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legendary
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September 02, 2024, 01:28:35 PM
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BBC:
"Russia pushes on key Ukraine city while Kyiv's Kursk incursion slows"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-pushes-key-ukraine-city-171303762.html

They obviously dont read Paxmao and his propaganda articles

They do read my accurate reporting, just they publish later than me...


Call me crazy, but I am starting to see a pattern here...[/b]


So you support ALL separatists everywhere, except Russian ones in Donbas.
Call me crazy, but I am starting to see a pattern here

Is that pattern maybe fueled by this?

"Ukraine wants to receive 50 billion dollars from the G7 without conditions and for any purpose by the end of the year - Ukrainian Prime Minister Shmyhal.
Money Trail - Ukrainian debt is apparently becoming a lucrative and highly profitable asset for war profiteering speculators.
The British investment fund said that Western investors and funds are making significant profits from Ukrainian "junk" bonds.
For example bonds of "Naftogaz", "Ukrainian Railways" and "Metinvest" brought investors incomes of 73%, 52% and 19%, respectively.
According to the British fund, the high returns are the result of the fact that these debts are repaid with financial help from Europe, which, despite
 their junk status, makes them very reliable and profitable. In essence, German taxpayers are funding aid to Ukraine, and that money
ends up in the hands of British funds that actually own Ukraine."

I guess I could ask if you support Ruzzia not allowing separatists except when it suits them / they are "pro-ruzzian"? BTW I did not say I supported anything, I am just saying that Ruzzia tends to kill anything that tries not to be ruled from Moscow.

Re bonds... well, I think Ukraine did not invade Ruzzia (not until recently anyway  Grin) so if the Brits are making profit from it (along with pretty much anyone else) it is on Ruzzia. Here, this is  Starmer's email so you can tell him to thank Putin for the business opportunity he has given the Brits (according to you of course).


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September 02, 2024, 09:10:11 AM

Any of the above, depending on what suits his narrative.

Well, the land in Kursk has been x100 easier to take for Ukraine. Do I need to explain that the losses were minimal, the number of soldiers captured large, that there are more than 1000 km2 taken in a couple of weeks? And make no mistake, Ukraine is very active there still, but the command is just not publishing anything at all.

It has taken thousands of dead soldiers, 11 months and innumerable resources for Ruzzia to take a similar chunk of Donbas. I am not ignoring that Ruzzia got land in there - shattered, mined and ruined land - I am just saying that Ukraine took, and is still taking, a chunk of Kurst at much less cost. You do not get points for effort on this, if you want Kursk back, then you will have to keep the war going for another year and hope your economy and society holds or... give back part of what you took.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces operation in Kursk Oblast was very well organized and is an undoubted tactical success for Ukraine. But strategically, it is a failure. After several days of rapid advancement, the front line stabilized, and now what? I think Syrsky will soon be fired, as the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Air Force was recently fired after the F16 was defeated by friendly fire.

Now Ukraine has a buffer zone for Sumi and Ruzzia has a growing problem. The offensive is slower, but it has not stopped at all, there are villages and small towns taken daily.

Strategically. the front line length has not changed, so they can work with the same number of troops but have more territory... let's name it "Northern Ukraine", Kursk is the past.

Putin has two options: trade it - unlikely because he still thinks he should always get the best part in deals - or, that is my guess, spend 11 to 18 months re-taking Northern Ukraine (previously known as Kursk). My guess, this is likely to prolong the war for another year at least, but this time Ruzzia will be bombing inside their (former) territory and will have to evacuate or kill their own (former) citizens.

BTW it seems that Chinese companies are taking secondary sanctions quite seriously. Expect much much less collaboration from their side, at any price. Mongolia has also said no to allowing an oleoduct through her territory.

Number of dead Ukrainians is so absurd that I'll start to believe
in those "they're building Khazaria" stories
[...] The 'Ukrainians' were at every stage given just enough to fight, but never enough to win, and the decisions of 'their' leadership have compounded their mortality and other woes exponentially.

If the conflict is in even some small sense about clearing out the land for a new group, it would be a small number of individuals from a small number of sects who would be 'read-in' and actively working toward that goal.  Most 'Jews' would be as clueless about it as anyone; even those who were performing adequately certain elements of 'the plan.'  In point of fact (so I see evidence of) some of the more fundamentalist groups of the Jews were actively immigrating 'back' to Ukraine from Israel in anticipation of an event well before shooting started, but probably in such low numbers that it _could_ be explained by simple background noise.

The real tell here is that there is active censorship right here on this laudably censorship-free forum of this whole avenue of exploration by a moderator who clearly has an unusual amount of interest in arcane subjects such as 'blood libel' and that sort of thing.  It's perfectly reasonable to question whether the 'moderation' is being done by someone who has some perceived 'skin in the game.'  Observations of censorship are, to me, relatively strong evidence that there is a 'there there' when it comes to tamping down on an exploration of a plan involving some flavor of genocide.



1. So, if you can see that they are given just enough and everyone out there can see that they could be given enough, why do you think they are given just (less) that just enough? Do you think someone.. I don't know... for some reason, is happy to see Ruzzia using up the stocks?

2. Your theory about jews occupying Ukraine leaves me wondering... why would they? Jews can live anywhere and hold plenty of power everywhere that matters.

3. I think you can say nearly anything in here. Just ask BADecker if you want to know more about how to abuse the system, oh, and do not complain if the moderator tells you to send this to "Meta".

To what matters: Ukraine is ready to deploy more troops in the Donbas. Ruzzia however is trying to follow the maxim "if you ignore a problem it will solve by itself" in Kursk... however it does not seem to be going away, but growing every day. I would not be surprised if Ukraine gains another 1000 km2 in the next month south of the Seim.



BBC:
"Russia pushes on key Ukraine city while Kyiv's Kursk incursion slows"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-pushes-key-ukraine-city-171303762.html

They obviously dont read Paxmao and his propaganda articles
legendary
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September 01, 2024, 08:24:58 PM
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2. Your theory about jews occupying Ukraine leaves me wondering... why would they? Jews can live anywhere and hold plenty of power everywhere that matters.
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For one thing they are victims of the intense propaganda from such a young age that they are often extremely paranoid with a psychological need to group together...and other disturbing psychological characteristics.

I already explained the hypothesis in the deleted post how the Ashkanazis who, in the modern banking system dominated world of today, and who 'say they are Jews and are not, but do lie', are really from ancient Khazaria and consider parts of the current Ukraine area home and feel that they were robbed (and in many cases they kind of were.)  The 'holy land' with Israel and what-not was a convenient middle step people and only worked because of the story-line they built about the purity of their blood-lines and all that garbage.  It was more than anything the story-line was self-propaganda against Eastern European Jews, and it worked like a charm.

In other news, I wonder if the reason Ukraine said a bunch of conflicting things about the F-16 loss but has said nothing about it officially is that in actual fact it was shot down by an SU-57 as the Turks claim?

legendary
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September 01, 2024, 06:05:31 PM
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3. I think you can say nearly anything in here. Just ask BADecker if you want to know more about how to abuse the system, oh, and do not complain if the moderator tells you to send this to "Meta".

To what matters: Ukraine is ready to deploy more troops in the Donbas. Ruzzia however is trying to follow the maxim "if you ignore a problem it will solve by itself" in Kursk... however it does not seem to be going away, but growing every day. I would not be surprised if Ukraine gains another 1000 km2 in the next month south of the Seim.


Lol. Just ask paxmao.

Russia patiently put up with Ukraine messing with them for years... maybe a couple of decades. Then they acted and took the Black Sea Corridor, and Ukraine couldn't do anything about it.

Now that Ukraine is minus almost all her fighting age people, she still hasn't learned her lesson. If she keeps on messing with Russia, she will simply be wiped out.

There are a bunch of peaceful Ukrainians who fled the war, who will gladly come back when Russia takes over. All the Ukraine and the US and Nato are doing is expanding Russian territory.

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