How Putin fawns over his masters on the Brics. He tries to please everyone, especially China. I laugh to tears! Lavrov is galloping like a horse there.
There are no masters in BRICS, it is an equal partnership. But if you are interested, it was Russia that initiated its creation. And this year Russia is chairing BRICS, which is why the recent forum was held in Kazan, and why Putin received leaders from other countries as a host, and not the other way around. 
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How Putin fawns over his masters on the Brics. He tries to please everyone, especially China. I laugh to tears! Lavrov is galloping like a horse there.
I have not seen the US threaten the use of nuclear weapons. Their doctrine has stayed the same for decades and speaks of using nukes only in nukes are used against them or a credible launch of such is detected.
As usual, you're trailing the events, or maybe just outright lie...that's not true since at least Obama (although history shows us that USA have
no problems nuking civilians)
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/news/biden-policy-allows-first-use-nuclear-weapons
BRICS is what Russia is trying to cling to, as it has few allies and the economy is running out. Slaves are needed, and slaves are the Brics countries.
BRICS is based on cooperation and noone is forced to join...unlike USA based organizations
So, the logic that applies to Texas - You have the right to have a gun to protect yourself from people with guns, applies to Ukraine: It has the right to have nukes to protect itself from people with nukes.
And Iran
On NATO, adhesion is voluntary. Finland and Sweden were not in NATO until Ruzzia decided to attack Ukraine.
That is pretty much the point. Once nuclear powers start using that power to impose conditions other that for defence, everyone out there is up to getting ready.
Ruzzia got nukes because US got nukes. China got nukes because Ruzzia got nukes. India got nukes because China got nukes. Pakistan got nukes because India got nukes. Israel got nukes because is in the middle of 7 countries that have waged war with them in the past, Iran may get nukes because Israel has nukes and when that happen Saudia Arabia will get nukes....
As the number of countries with nukes grows the likelyhood of a nuclear conflict grows exponentially (short of) in mathematical terms.
The solution is non-proliferation and dis-armament. None of that is going to happen if Ruzzia threatens to use nukes in Ukraine.
I have not seen the US threaten the use of nuclear weapons. Their doctrine has stayed the same for decades and speaks of using nukes only in nukes are used against them or a credible launch of such is detected.
^^^ You err in several points, here.
1. If Putin desired Ukraine, Russia is strong enough to simply take it. That's not my idea. That's a thing that a whole lot of 'war' analysts are saying. Even if it does seem obvious on the outside.
2. Crimea annexed itself to Russia, by the vote of the Crimean people. It would have been the same in Ukraine, except for CIA voting interference. You can see this in the fact that Zelensky didn't allow his term to be voted on by the people. He simply cancelled the voting. You can also see it in the fact of the millions who fled Ukraine because they understood the interference.
3. Having nukes doesn't protect anybody from nukes, especially when you give them to a loose cannon like Zelensky.
4. Give guns to the millions of Ukrainians that fled the Ukraine takeover, and they might go back and put the takeover down... like at the time of the Orange Revolution.
5. As we have seen, and as in my previous post, Putin and Russia can't trust the liars in Washington.
How in the world dense are you? All you are saying about yourself is that you are like a lobbyist or propagandist who wants the war to keep on going for whatever reasons. But your reasons certainly are not to keep Ukraine from collapsing at the expense of lives of thousands of Ukraine's men and women fighters, many of which are essentially 'kids'.
1. If Putin desired Ukraine, Russia is strong enough to simply take it. That's not my idea. That's a thing that a whole lot of 'war' analysts are saying. Even if it does seem obvious on the outside.
2. Crimea annexed itself to Russia, by the vote of the Crimean people. It would have been the same in Ukraine, except for CIA voting interference. You can see this in the fact that Zelensky didn't allow his term to be voted on by the people. He simply cancelled the voting. You can also see it in the fact of the millions who fled Ukraine because they understood the interference.
3. Having nukes doesn't protect anybody from nukes, especially when you give them to a loose cannon like Zelensky.
4. Give guns to the millions of Ukrainians that fled the Ukraine takeover, and they might go back and put the takeover down... like at the time of the Orange Revolution.
5. As we have seen, and as in my previous post, Putin and Russia can't trust the liars in Washington.
How in the world dense are you? All you are saying about yourself is that you are like a lobbyist or propagandist who wants the war to keep on going for whatever reasons. But your reasons certainly are not to keep Ukraine from collapsing at the expense of lives of thousands of Ukraine's men and women fighters, many of which are essentially 'kids'.
1 - There is obvious proof to the contrary.
2 - Crimea was invaded and then the "referedum" did not count with the minimum guarantees. You ignore the very basics of voting (I am not surprised).
3 - Having nukes creates something called deterrence. It is a well tested theory... we are talking 75 years or so of testing.
4 - They might or they might not. Most of the people who fled decided that their families were more important than their country. It is a choice, but they should not expect to have the same rights of those who fought.
5 - I agree, Putin cannot trust Washington and Washington cannot trust Putin because this is international politics and it is based on incentives not in "friendship". That is the main reason to provide support for Ukraine.
BRICS is what Russia is trying to cling to, as it has few allies and the economy is running out. Slaves are needed, and slaves are the Brics countries.
BRICS is based on cooperation and noone is forced to join...unlike USA based organizations
So, the logic that applies to Texas - You have the right to have a gun to protect yourself from people with guns, applies to Ukraine: It has the right to have nukes to protect itself from people with nukes.
And Iran
^^^ You err in several points, here.
1. If Putin desired Ukraine, Russia is strong enough to simply take it. That's not my idea. That's a thing that a whole lot of 'war' analysts are saying. Even if it does seem obvious on the outside.
2. Crimea annexed itself to Russia, by the vote of the Crimean people. It would have been the same in Ukraine, except for CIA voting interference. You can see this in the fact that Zelensky didn't allow his term to be voted on by the people. He simply cancelled the voting. You can also see it in the fact of the millions who fled Ukraine because they understood the interference.
3. Having nukes doesn't protect anybody from nukes, especially when you give them to a loose cannon like Zelensky.
4. Give guns to the millions of Ukrainians that fled the Ukraine takeover, and they might go back and put the takeover down... like at the time of the Orange Revolution.
5. As we have seen, and as in my previous post, Putin and Russia can't trust the liars in Washington.
How in the world dense are you? All you are saying about yourself is that you are like a lobbyist or propagandist who wants the war to keep on going for whatever reasons. But your reasons certainly are not to keep Ukraine from collapsing at the expense of lives of thousands of Ukraine's men and women fighters, many of which are essentially 'kids'.
1. If Putin desired Ukraine, Russia is strong enough to simply take it. That's not my idea. That's a thing that a whole lot of 'war' analysts are saying. Even if it does seem obvious on the outside.
2. Crimea annexed itself to Russia, by the vote of the Crimean people. It would have been the same in Ukraine, except for CIA voting interference. You can see this in the fact that Zelensky didn't allow his term to be voted on by the people. He simply cancelled the voting. You can also see it in the fact of the millions who fled Ukraine because they understood the interference.
3. Having nukes doesn't protect anybody from nukes, especially when you give them to a loose cannon like Zelensky.
4. Give guns to the millions of Ukrainians that fled the Ukraine takeover, and they might go back and put the takeover down... like at the time of the Orange Revolution.
5. As we have seen, and as in my previous post, Putin and Russia can't trust the liars in Washington.
How in the world dense are you? All you are saying about yourself is that you are like a lobbyist or propagandist who wants the war to keep on going for whatever reasons. But your reasons certainly are not to keep Ukraine from collapsing at the expense of lives of thousands of Ukraine's men and women fighters, many of which are essentially 'kids'.
I am waiting to hear the results of the BRICS meeting. If Putin is waiting for a massive change or sign of support, I wanna see his face after.
The obvious problem with this is that you would need to believe Ruzzia. Without military protection there is nothing preventing Ruzzia from taking Ukraine - and they do not need any reason other than getting another area to exploit resources, just like they annexed Crimea.
Absolutely. As said Ukraine HAD nukes, enough to make it the third country with more Nukes in the world at that time. Not only that, they had very modern strategic bombers. And he is absolutely right, if Ukraine had chosen to keep the nukes they had, Ruzzia would have to think twice before attacking.
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But just to make it veeeeery easy for you, I am now going to write in Texan: "If you are threatened by people with guns, the Texan solution is to buy guns of your own".
BTW Ukraine is not threatening the US, whereas Ruzzia is creating a situation in which many countries are considering having nukes and increasing their arsenal.
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Where you err is in the fact that Zelensky cancelled elections. This takes away freedom from the people. But Texas guns IS freedom for the people. You continue to show how backward and self-contradictory you are.
Keep it up. The more you talk, the more ignorant you show yourself to be.
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It is so funny when you speak of ignorance that I just thank myself for ordering an anti-spill keyboard.
No, Zelensky was elected democratically and you are either ignorant (most likely) or simply throwing another unproven shit.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/ukraine-democracy-wartime-elections-russia-zelensky/
So, not "Zelensky did not cancel the elections" - they would actually be possible if there were no war ongoing.
So, the logic that applies to Texas - You have the right to have a gun to protect yourself from people with guns, applies to Ukraine: It has the right to have nukes to protect itself from people with nukes.
If the US wishes to keep the treaty of non-proliferation, they would need to make sure that nations under threat by a nuclear power are effective protected. That is in essence the concept of non-proliferation: I do not get armed with nukes to the teeth as long as you (nuclear power) do not use your leverage to attack me.
Alternative, you could all not have guns, but I know that is beyond your understanding.
Russia has expressed in the past that they have only 2 or 3 reasons for their part in the Ukraine war. None of their reasons includes conquering Ukraine. But their reasons DO include keeping Nato out. The question is, how does Russia keep Nato out without conquering Ukraine? Russia, with their latest war successes, is having to examine this first hand, right now.
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The obvious problem with this is that you would need to believe Ruzzia. Without military protection there is nothing preventing Ruzzia from taking Ukraine - and they do not need any reason other than getting another area to exploit resources, just like they annexed Crimea.
More on Zelensky threatening nukes. If Ukraine isn't allowed to join Nato, Zelensky will build nukes that nobody but he controls.
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Absolutely. As said Ukraine HAD nukes, enough to make it the third country with more Nukes in the world at that time. Not only that, they had very modern strategic bombers. And he is absolutely right, if Ukraine had chosen to keep the nukes they had, Ruzzia would have to think twice before attacking.
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But just to make it veeeeery easy for you, I am now going to write in Texan: "If you are threatened by people with guns, the Texan solution is to buy guns of your own".
BTW Ukraine is not threatening the US, whereas Ruzzia is creating a situation in which many countries are considering having nukes and increasing their arsenal.
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Where you err is in the fact that Zelensky cancelled elections. This takes away freedom from the people. But Texas guns IS freedom for the people. You continue to show how backward and self-contradictory you are.
Keep it up. The more you talk, the more ignorant you show yourself to be.
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It is so funny when you speak of ignorance that I just thank myself for ordering an anti-spill keyboard.
No, Zelensky was elected democratically and you are either ignorant (most likely) or simply throwing another unproven shit.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/ukraine-democracy-wartime-elections-russia-zelensky/
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Voting in the middle of the Russian invasion is legally and practically unworkable.
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Martial law is established as a concept in the Ukrainian Constitution and last updated by the national legislature in 2015, before Zelensky entered politics.
So, not "Zelensky did not cancel the elections" - they would actually be possible if there were no war ongoing.
So, the logic that applies to Texas - You have the right to have a gun to protect yourself from people with guns, applies to Ukraine: It has the right to have nukes to protect itself from people with nukes.
If the US wishes to keep the treaty of non-proliferation, they would need to make sure that nations under threat by a nuclear power are effective protected. That is in essence the concept of non-proliferation: I do not get armed with nukes to the teeth as long as you (nuclear power) do not use your leverage to attack me.
Alternative, you could all not have guns, but I know that is beyond your understanding.
Russia has expressed in the past that they have only 2 or 3 reasons for their part in the Ukraine war. None of their reasons includes conquering Ukraine. But their reasons DO include keeping Nato out. The question is, how does Russia keep Nato out without conquering Ukraine? Russia, with their latest war successes, is having to examine this first hand, right now.
The answer, of course is, BRICS. BRICS will throw the whole West off balance, and just might destroy Western banking altogether. The thing that average people don't realize about this is, they won't really be hurt much by this happening. And they might gain a lot from it since Western banking steals from them through inflation.
This is precisely the reason why the BRICS nations are trying to build a financial system that eliminates their having to use the Western banking system. If they allow individuals into BRICS, this might be a way for free Western people to invest more successfully.
India & China Sign Border Pact Ahead of BRICS Summit - https://www.infowars.com/posts/india-china-sign-border-pact-ahead-of-brics-summit. Financial Armageddon. Federal Regulators Brace For Massive Bank Failures As Billionaire Investors Dump Banking Stock At Record Levels.
Russia decides to stockpile silver - silver market explodes - primed for more growth - https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/precious-metals/article-823167
Is Russia Finally Acknowledging Reality?
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/20/is-russia-finally-acknowledging-reality/
The knowledge I gained enables me to update my take on the situation, which I will now do.
The Ukrainian invasion of Kursk, which has been defeated, was a game changer and possibly will result in the termination of Ukraine as an independent country. The reason is that the invasion convinced the Russian public, the General Staff of the Russian military, and buttressed the case of Russian politicians that an independent Ukraine is inconsistent with Russian security.
Putin still says he is open to negotiations, but only if the other side acknowledges the reality on the ground, which Zelensky's "Victory Plan" does not do. Zelensky says only nukes or NATO can save Ukraine. The Russians will not allow either.
If the Russian Army stops at the Dnieper River, that leaves western Ukraine as a US/NATO missile platform. Stopping at the Dnieper River leaves Putin no way to de-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine. It would limit his declared goals only to preventing the Russian populations attached by Soviet leaders to Ukraine from being slaughtered by anti-Russian Ukrainian forces.
It seems that Putin overlooked that dispelling Ukrainian military forces from Donbas does not de-militarize Ukraine or prevent Ukraine from being a member of NATO. Putin will have reincorporated former Russian territory back into Russia, but western Ukraine would still be there as a platform for US nukes and from which to trade missile strikes with Russia as Israel and Iran are doing.
The question is whether Putin, who wants peace, will be content with liberating eastern and southern Russian territories of Ukraine, and, if so, whether the Russian public and the General Staff will permit him to leave a Ukrainian state in place or will they see a deal as merely kicking the can down the road.
There is also the question who Putin can negotiate with. Zelensky's term as president has expired. On what authority is Zelensky still in charge? Putin cannot know whether a deal he makes with Zelensky will later be ruled illegitimate. One would think that Putin has learned from the Minsk Agreement, which was used to deceive him and to leave him unprepared for military action, and all Russian agreements with Washington–such as the promise that NATO will not move one inch to the East –that any agreement with Washington's signature on it is worthless. So, how is it that Putin speaks of negotiations? Is Putin delusional and unable to learn from experience?
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The answer, of course is, BRICS. BRICS will throw the whole West off balance, and just might destroy Western banking altogether. The thing that average people don't realize about this is, they won't really be hurt much by this happening. And they might gain a lot from it since Western banking steals from them through inflation.
This is precisely the reason why the BRICS nations are trying to build a financial system that eliminates their having to use the Western banking system. If they allow individuals into BRICS, this might be a way for free Western people to invest more successfully.
India & China Sign Border Pact Ahead of BRICS Summit - https://www.infowars.com/posts/india-china-sign-border-pact-ahead-of-brics-summit. Financial Armageddon. Federal Regulators Brace For Massive Bank Failures As Billionaire Investors Dump Banking Stock At Record Levels.
Russia decides to stockpile silver - silver market explodes - primed for more growth - https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/precious-metals/article-823167
Is Russia Finally Acknowledging Reality?
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/20/is-russia-finally-acknowledging-reality/
The knowledge I gained enables me to update my take on the situation, which I will now do.
The Ukrainian invasion of Kursk, which has been defeated, was a game changer and possibly will result in the termination of Ukraine as an independent country. The reason is that the invasion convinced the Russian public, the General Staff of the Russian military, and buttressed the case of Russian politicians that an independent Ukraine is inconsistent with Russian security.
Putin still says he is open to negotiations, but only if the other side acknowledges the reality on the ground, which Zelensky's "Victory Plan" does not do. Zelensky says only nukes or NATO can save Ukraine. The Russians will not allow either.
If the Russian Army stops at the Dnieper River, that leaves western Ukraine as a US/NATO missile platform. Stopping at the Dnieper River leaves Putin no way to de-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine. It would limit his declared goals only to preventing the Russian populations attached by Soviet leaders to Ukraine from being slaughtered by anti-Russian Ukrainian forces.
It seems that Putin overlooked that dispelling Ukrainian military forces from Donbas does not de-militarize Ukraine or prevent Ukraine from being a member of NATO. Putin will have reincorporated former Russian territory back into Russia, but western Ukraine would still be there as a platform for US nukes and from which to trade missile strikes with Russia as Israel and Iran are doing.
The question is whether Putin, who wants peace, will be content with liberating eastern and southern Russian territories of Ukraine, and, if so, whether the Russian public and the General Staff will permit him to leave a Ukrainian state in place or will they see a deal as merely kicking the can down the road.
There is also the question who Putin can negotiate with. Zelensky's term as president has expired. On what authority is Zelensky still in charge? Putin cannot know whether a deal he makes with Zelensky will later be ruled illegitimate. One would think that Putin has learned from the Minsk Agreement, which was used to deceive him and to leave him unprepared for military action, and all Russian agreements with Washington–such as the promise that NATO will not move one inch to the East –that any agreement with Washington's signature on it is worthless. So, how is it that Putin speaks of negotiations? Is Putin delusional and unable to learn from experience?
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BRICS is what Russia is trying to cling to, as it has few allies and the economy is running out. Slaves are needed, and slaves are the Brics countries.
Russia has expressed in the past that they have only 2 or 3 reasons for their part in the Ukraine war. None of their reasons includes conquering Ukraine. But their reasons DO include keeping Nato out. The question is, how does Russia keep Nato out without conquering Ukraine? Russia, with their latest war successes, is having to examine this first hand, right now.
The answer, of course is, BRICS. BRICS will throw the whole West off balance, and just might destroy Western banking altogether. The thing that average people don't realize about this is, they won't really be hurt much by this happening. And they might gain a lot from it since Western banking steals from them through inflation.
This is precisely the reason why the BRICS nations are trying to build a financial system that eliminates their having to use the Western banking system. If they allow individuals into BRICS, this might be a way for free Western people to invest more successfully.
India & China Sign Border Pact Ahead of BRICS Summit - https://www.infowars.com/posts/india-china-sign-border-pact-ahead-of-brics-summit. Financial Armageddon. Federal Regulators Brace For Massive Bank Failures As Billionaire Investors Dump Banking Stock At Record Levels.
Russia decides to stockpile silver - silver market explodes - primed for more growth - https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/precious-metals/article-823167
Is Russia Finally Acknowledging Reality?
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/20/is-russia-finally-acknowledging-reality/
The knowledge I gained enables me to update my take on the situation, which I will now do.
The Ukrainian invasion of Kursk, which has been defeated, was a game changer and possibly will result in the termination of Ukraine as an independent country. The reason is that the invasion convinced the Russian public, the General Staff of the Russian military, and buttressed the case of Russian politicians that an independent Ukraine is inconsistent with Russian security.
Putin still says he is open to negotiations, but only if the other side acknowledges the reality on the ground, which Zelensky's "Victory Plan" does not do. Zelensky says only nukes or NATO can save Ukraine. The Russians will not allow either.
If the Russian Army stops at the Dnieper River, that leaves western Ukraine as a US/NATO missile platform. Stopping at the Dnieper River leaves Putin no way to de-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine. It would limit his declared goals only to preventing the Russian populations attached by Soviet leaders to Ukraine from being slaughtered by anti-Russian Ukrainian forces.
It seems that Putin overlooked that dispelling Ukrainian military forces from Donbas does not de-militarize Ukraine or prevent Ukraine from being a member of NATO. Putin will have reincorporated former Russian territory back into Russia, but western Ukraine would still be there as a platform for US nukes and from which to trade missile strikes with Russia as Israel and Iran are doing.
The question is whether Putin, who wants peace, will be content with liberating eastern and southern Russian territories of Ukraine, and, if so, whether the Russian public and the General Staff will permit him to leave a Ukrainian state in place or will they see a deal as merely kicking the can down the road.
There is also the question who Putin can negotiate with. Zelensky's term as president has expired. On what authority is Zelensky still in charge? Putin cannot know whether a deal he makes with Zelensky will later be ruled illegitimate. One would think that Putin has learned from the Minsk Agreement, which was used to deceive him and to leave him unprepared for military action, and all Russian agreements with Washington–such as the promise that NATO will not move one inch to the East –that any agreement with Washington's signature on it is worthless. So, how is it that Putin speaks of negotiations? Is Putin delusional and unable to learn from experience?
...
The answer, of course is, BRICS. BRICS will throw the whole West off balance, and just might destroy Western banking altogether. The thing that average people don't realize about this is, they won't really be hurt much by this happening. And they might gain a lot from it since Western banking steals from them through inflation.
This is precisely the reason why the BRICS nations are trying to build a financial system that eliminates their having to use the Western banking system. If they allow individuals into BRICS, this might be a way for free Western people to invest more successfully.
India & China Sign Border Pact Ahead of BRICS Summit - https://www.infowars.com/posts/india-china-sign-border-pact-ahead-of-brics-summit. Financial Armageddon. Federal Regulators Brace For Massive Bank Failures As Billionaire Investors Dump Banking Stock At Record Levels.
Russia decides to stockpile silver - silver market explodes - primed for more growth - https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/precious-metals/article-823167
Is Russia Finally Acknowledging Reality?
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/10/20/is-russia-finally-acknowledging-reality/
The knowledge I gained enables me to update my take on the situation, which I will now do.
The Ukrainian invasion of Kursk, which has been defeated, was a game changer and possibly will result in the termination of Ukraine as an independent country. The reason is that the invasion convinced the Russian public, the General Staff of the Russian military, and buttressed the case of Russian politicians that an independent Ukraine is inconsistent with Russian security.
Putin still says he is open to negotiations, but only if the other side acknowledges the reality on the ground, which Zelensky's "Victory Plan" does not do. Zelensky says only nukes or NATO can save Ukraine. The Russians will not allow either.
If the Russian Army stops at the Dnieper River, that leaves western Ukraine as a US/NATO missile platform. Stopping at the Dnieper River leaves Putin no way to de-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine. It would limit his declared goals only to preventing the Russian populations attached by Soviet leaders to Ukraine from being slaughtered by anti-Russian Ukrainian forces.
It seems that Putin overlooked that dispelling Ukrainian military forces from Donbas does not de-militarize Ukraine or prevent Ukraine from being a member of NATO. Putin will have reincorporated former Russian territory back into Russia, but western Ukraine would still be there as a platform for US nukes and from which to trade missile strikes with Russia as Israel and Iran are doing.
The question is whether Putin, who wants peace, will be content with liberating eastern and southern Russian territories of Ukraine, and, if so, whether the Russian public and the General Staff will permit him to leave a Ukrainian state in place or will they see a deal as merely kicking the can down the road.
There is also the question who Putin can negotiate with. Zelensky's term as president has expired. On what authority is Zelensky still in charge? Putin cannot know whether a deal he makes with Zelensky will later be ruled illegitimate. One would think that Putin has learned from the Minsk Agreement, which was used to deceive him and to leave him unprepared for military action, and all Russian agreements with Washington–such as the promise that NATO will not move one inch to the East –that any agreement with Washington's signature on it is worthless. So, how is it that Putin speaks of negotiations? Is Putin delusional and unable to learn from experience?
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I read today that South Korea wants to introduce its soldiers into Ukraine, as well as supply offensive weapons. Naturally, it is necessary for the Northerners to fight back.
So far it's just talks, nothing serious:Quote
We would consider supplying weapons for defensive purposes as part of the step-by-step scenarios, and if it seems they are going too far, we might also consider offensive use
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/22/south-korea-mulls-aiding-ukraine-evidence-north-korea-involvement-warWe could, we might - as you can see, so far it's just early talks.
And so far we are talking about just few thousands North Korean troops sent to this war, difficult to see it as big deal. And somehow I'm not sure that they're ready and capable to send number of troops that would be really significant, considering tension with South Korea.
I read today that South Korea wants to introduce its soldiers into Ukraine, as well as supply offensive weapons. Naturally, it is necessary for the Northerners to fight back.
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And I still waiting for you to provide any proof of what you say.
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And I still waiting for you to provide any proof of what you say.
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You don't want to look at the proof. Why should anybody provide it? You only report on the evidence that you want to see. You know how to do all the research in the world... if you were really interested.
Why in the world are you so in favor of Ukraine? Got your wife or girlfriend from there? Or getting paid as a lobbyist-like joker?
I would suspect that Russia and North Korea will used Kursk as a useful training exercise to work on integration of their forces...in anticipation of a future need.
The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side.
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The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side.
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Just wait, I am sure there will be some other "gifts" very soon.
I'm still waiting for Crimea to be 'liberated' by Zelenski and his Zionazi legion. Wasn't that promised to have occurred by the start of 2024? Or was it that 2023? I forget.
Ukraine had some stuff developed by the Soviets when the USSR was around. Looks like the actual knowledge and skill which was responsible for what the Soviets did achieve in their time mainly flowed mostly North to South.
And I still waiting for you to provide any proof of what you say. You do not have numbers -mostly because there are no public numbers on Kursk, so whatever you say is just wishful thinking.
However the fact that there were numerous Ruzzian conscripts exchanged for Ukrainian POW thanks to the operation is clear. The fact that sections of the front in Belgorod became inactive and some attacks in the East had to stop is there. All easy to check... meanwhile sure.. keep throwing names and ideology... useless.
I would suspect that Russia and North Korea will used Kursk as a useful training exercise to work on integration of their forces...in anticipation of a future need.
The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side.
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The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side.
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Just wait, I am sure there will be some other "gifts" very soon.
I'm still waiting for Crimea to be 'liberated' by Zelenski and his Zionazi legion. Wasn't that promised to have occurred by the start of 2024? Or was it that 2023? I forget.
Ukraine had some stuff developed by the Soviets when the USSR was around. Looks like the actual knowledge and skill which was responsible for what the Soviets did achieve in their time mainly flowed mostly North to South.
More on Zelensky threatening nukes. If Ukraine isn't allowed to join Nato, Zelensky will build nukes that nobody but he controls.
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Absolutely. As said Ukraine HAD nukes, enough to make it the third country with more Nukes in the world at that time. Not only that, they had very modern strategic bombers. And he is absolutely right, if Ukraine had chosen to keep the nukes they had, Ruzzia would have to think twice before attacking.
But let's be specific: Zelensky is not "threatening nukes", Zelensky is saying that Ukraine needs to have a way of deterring aggression.
I know you cannot do this because you are a psychopath, but try for a moment to be Ukraine as nation:
- You have been invaded not once, but twice by an aggressive and bigger neighbour.
- Your neighbour has shown clear signs of wanting to continue this pattern.
- Nobody on the outside is helping you decissively.
- The only alliance that can protect you cannot accept you (or will not accept you) as a member.
You need to solve your problem and there is only one thing that may give you the right leverage.
But just to make it veeeeery easy for you, I am now going to write in Texan: "If you are threatened by people with guns, the Texan solution is to buy guns of your own".
BTW Ukraine is not threatening the US, whereas Ruzzia is creating a situation in which many countries are considering having nukes and increasing their arsenal.
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Where you err is in the fact that Zelensky cancelled elections. This takes away freedom from the people. But Texas guns IS freedom for the people. You continue to show how backward and self-contradictory you are.
Keep it up. The more you talk, the more ignorant you show yourself to be.
Bad news for Kyiv: Elite Ukrainian troops SURRENDER to Russians in Kursk
https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-10-18-elite-ukrainian-troops-surrender-in-kursk-region.html
Troops from Ukrainian elite units deployed to Russia's Kursk region have laid down their arms and surrendered, dealing a serious blow to Kyiv's war effort.
Maj. Gen. Apty Alaudinov, the commander of the Russian Akhmat Special Forces battalion, confirmed this in an Oct. 15 interview with journalist Vladimir Solovyov. The commander rejected claims by Ukraine that Russian soldiers executed nine Ukrainian service members in Kursk, many of whom were drone operators.
Alaudinov dismissed the claim as a psy-op, arguing that Kyiv "needs to create fake news to discourage its military from surrendering" as many Ukrainian service members "openly say they can fight no more." Despite these, the commander pointed out that enemy troops "often decide to surrender anyway."
"What's interesting is that the units that they considered to be the most unassailable and elite, they are also beginning to slowly lean toward surrendering as they want to stay alive," the Akhmat commander told Solovyov.
According to Alaudinov, Moscow is ready to spare even those who serve in the Aidar Battalion or Azov Brigade if they lay down their arms. The two brigades have been accused of having neo-Nazi sympathies. It is worth noting that "denazification" was one of Russia's goals for launching the "special military operation" in Ukraine in February 2022.
Several Western media outlets have reported that the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) is struggling with exhaustion, low morale and desertion. Many of the reinforcements arriving at the front, who were pressed into service through Ukraine's draconian military draft, suffer from inadequate training. In turn, this only worsens the problems mentioned.
Ukraine launched a large-scale incursion into Kursk in early August, allocating some of its best troops for the offensive. While they initially made some progress, the Russian government said its forces managed to halt the Ukrainian advance and later pushed them back. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, Ukraine has lost more than 23,000 troops since the start of the attack. (Related: Ukraine's offensive in Kursk region is the first direct attack on Russia since WWII.)
Russia appears to be winning the war
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More on Zelensky threatening nukes. If Ukraine isn't allowed to join Nato, Zelensky will build nukes that nobody but he controls.
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Absolutely. As said Ukraine HAD nukes, enough to make it the third country with more Nukes in the world at that time. Not only that, they had very modern strategic bombers. And he is absolutely right, if Ukraine had chosen to keep the nukes they had, Ruzzia would have to think twice before attacking.
But let's be specific: Zelensky is not "threatening nukes", Zelensky is saying that Ukraine needs to have a way of deterring aggression.
I know you cannot do this because you are a psychopath, but try for a moment to be Ukraine as nation:
- You have been invaded not once, but twice by an aggressive and bigger neighbour.
- Your neighbour has shown clear signs of wanting to continue this pattern.
- Nobody on the outside is helping you decissively.
- The only alliance that can protect you cannot accept you (or will not accept you) as a member.
You need to solve your problem and there is only one thing that may give you the right leverage.
But just to make it veeeeery easy for you, I am now going to write in Texan: "If you are threatened by people with guns, the Texan solution is to buy guns of your own".
BTW Ukraine is not threatening the US, whereas Ruzzia is creating a situation in which many countries are considering having nukes and increasing their arsenal.
About 1,500 North Korean fighters are already ready to fight against Ukraine on behalf of Russia. I think Russia should have that right.
You're forgetting, Russia's invasion is illegal. Russia's hired solders (including their own) have no right to be in Ukraine.
Putin is spending hundreds of millions into their disinformation campaign, trying to make sure you forget it was illegal.
Don't every forget. Make him waste his money.
As for those North Korean solders, well, North Korea is the largest open air prison in the world. They will never be allowed back into the hermit kingdom. Never.
So their only chance of freedom now is to get to Ukraine. If they can get there alive, they will taste freedom for the first time in their life.
It is actually 11.000 training in the east. However, this is just 8 to10 days of meat for the Ruzzian army. They need to feed between 1000 and 1400 souls to the great reaper just to keep the fronts active.
The new threat is the soldiers of North Korea. Can NATO troops enter Ukraine now?
Although not overtly, the soldiers of many NATO countries are participating in the war on behalf of Ukraine and receiving a lot of military equipment from them. About 1,500 North Korean fighters are already ready to fight against Ukraine on behalf of Russia. I think Russia should have that right.I would suspect that Russia and North Korea will used Kursk as a useful training exercise to work on integration of their forces...in anticipation of a future need.
The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side.
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Just wait, I am sure there will be some other "gifts" very soon.
About 1,500 North Korean fighters are already ready to fight against Ukraine on behalf of Russia. I think Russia should have that right.
You're forgetting, Russia's invasion is illegal. Russia's hired solders (including their own) have no right to be in Ukraine.
Putin is spending hundreds of millions into their disinformation campaign, trying to make sure you forget it was illegal.
Don't every forget. Make him waste his money.
As for those North Korean solders, well, North Korea is the largest open air prison in the world. They will never be allowed back into the hermit kingdom. Never.
So their only chance of freedom now is to get to Ukraine. If they can get there alive, they will taste freedom for the first time in their life.
The new threat is the soldiers of North Korea. Can NATO troops enter Ukraine now?
Although not overtly, the soldiers of many NATO countries are participating in the war on behalf of Ukraine and receiving a lot of military equipment from them. About 1,500 North Korean fighters are already ready to fight against Ukraine on behalf of Russia. I think Russia should have that right.I would suspect that Russia and North Korea will used Kursk as a useful training exercise to work on integration of their forces...in anticipation of a future need.
The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side. The idea that the invasion was a surprise to the Russians is absurd given their intel capabilities and the time took to consolidate Ziocon forces for the operation. I again, as I did within the first days after Kursk, wonder aloud if Russia didn't actively foster the incursion knowing that it would be a giant gift (albeit at some cost in 'face', civilian discomfort, and property destruction.) Maybe even the Zionazis and the Kremlin planned it together. I would not rule that out.
Kursk is, of course, 100% 'old Russia' which simplifies things legally by a fair margin, though I expect that Russia could argue that by their laws, the five regions where the populations voted to join the Russian federation are also fair game for employing forces from allied nations.
The new threat is the soldiers of North Korea. Can NATO troops enter Ukraine now?
Although not overtly, the soldiers of many NATO countries are participating in the war on behalf of Ukraine and receiving a lot of military equipment from them. About 1,500 North Korean fighters are already ready to fight against Ukraine on behalf of Russia. I think Russia should have that right.
The new threat is the soldiers of North Korea. Can NATO troops enter Ukraine now?
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