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legendary
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Severodonetsk taken.

After the surrender of Azov in Marupol, the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass was actually broken, it became easier to take cities.

Moжeм пoвтopить..
"Don't threaten if you can't deliver - that's a sign of weakness."

How is that May 9th, 2022 victory parade in Kyiv going for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38IE_bm6sk

It was great stratagem by Russians...so great that you're still convinced  Grin

LOL, great plan.

https://www.facebook.com/navy.mil.gov.ua/videos/449757700230135
legendary
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When kids misbehave, good parents punish them. And bad parents indulge in childish pranks and raise bastards with a sense of their own impunity.

Good old days of stoneage, right?


Good ol' days of Christian upbringing.    Cool
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When kids misbehave, good parents punish them. And bad parents indulge in childish pranks and raise bastards with a sense of their own impunity.

Good old days of stoneage, right?
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It was great stratagem by Russians...so great that you're still convinced  Grin

Right Roll Eyes

Next up - denazification. Did you all really believe that's what Putin meant? Pffft...

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Severodonetsk taken.

After the surrender of Azov in Marupol, the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass was actually broken, it became easier to take cities.

Moжeм пoвтopить..
"Don't threaten if you can't deliver - that's a sign of weakness."

How is that May 9th, 2022 victory parade in Kyiv going for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38IE_bm6sk

It was great stratagem by Russians...so great that you're still convinced  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
Severodonetsk taken.

After the surrender of Azov in Marupol, the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass was actually broken, it became easier to take cities.

Moжeм пoвтopить..
"Don't threaten if you can't deliver - that's a sign of weakness."

How is that May 9th, 2022 victory parade in Kyiv going for you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38IE_bm6sk
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
Severodonetsk taken.

After the surrender of Azov in Marupol, the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass was actually broken, it became easier to take cities.

Moжeм пoвтopить..
"Don't threaten if you can't deliver - that's a sign of weakness."

Funny that you mention this...

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... we will seek to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine and put to justice ...
- Adolf Putin.
legendary
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Their goal was to take Ukraine.

Are you sure? And than what? Add Ukrainian territory to Russian Federation? I thought the goal of this "military operation" was to protect people of LNR and DNR, and to make Ukraine to accept them as an independent republics.

I have stopped following war news, also, my local press media stopped making online reports. I just find Ukraine war related topics. My media is filled with economic crisis more, than with war. This means that according to our press, people are not interested in war anymore, but rather interested in solving future financial problems. It might sound sad, but to me this looks like Ukraine is loosing, this means that support is about to end. People showed their usual selfishness.
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White Russian
Severodonetsk taken.

After the surrender of Azov in Marupol, the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass was actually broken, it became easier to take cities.

Moжeм пoвтopить..
"Don't threaten if you can't deliver - that's a sign of weakness."
legendary
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Russia is not a winner of this war, no matter the military outcome.
I don't understand, can you explain what you mean?

Remember back when Russia invaded all of Ukraine and tried to "decapitate the government"?  

Remember how everyone, including Western media and most or all posters in this thread, including myself thought it would not take long for Russia to accomplish their objectives?

Remember how, after failing to take the capital quickly, they spent weeks trying to encircle Kyiv?  

Remember how you thought they were intentionally not completely surrounding it to allow civilians to leave and "all who remained and did not lay down their weapons would be destroyed" and "it would be foolish to think otherwise"?

Remember how you were sure there would be a parade in Russian controlled Kyiv on victory day?

Remember how during all of this, Putin made a new law making it illegal to even call the war a war, because that would imply Ukraine posed some sort of threat to Russian soldiers?

Remember what happened after all that?  How Russia had to retreat, the flag ship of the Russian Navy was sunk, thousands and thousands of Russian soldiers were killed, and even Russian bloggers imbedded with the military that normally relay the State approved propaganda began criticizing the stupid decisions being made by those in charge?

I think that's what he means.

I still do not understand.

Their goal was to take Ukraine.

They tried, and failed at the cost of displacing millions and killing thousands of innocent people as well as uniting most of the world against them.  Not to mention, there's a very real possibility that Finland and Sweden will be joining Nato as a direct response to Putins careless behavior.  But the biggest loss for Russia is the fact that the world has realized that the Russian military is not as powerful as everyone thought.  Putin could have held on to that card for a long time, forever really.  But instead, he decided to play it - without any benefit for him or the Russian people.
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
There is no winning strategy for Putin. And time works against him - he doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to make new tanks, missiles etc at the rate he's expending them.
Russia has this shoe polish for ten Ukraine in store. Grin
...

I hope you can put a coat of paint on the dead. Dam... only if those T-62 had the Tesla self-driving.


Adolf Putin is doing so great that all young Russians are flocking to join the army to gloriously die for his delirium. In his mighty wisdom he has decided that is unfair that people that have already served and are well-past their young days stay at home and now is going to force them given them the chance to die for him too.

You can also read this on TASS

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-lawmakers-vote-scrap-upper-age-limit-military-2022-05-25/

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May 25 (Reuters) - Russia's parliament approved a law on Wednesday in double-quick time removing the upper age limit for contractual service in the military, amid heavy casualties in Ukraine.

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he bill now needs only the signature of President Vladimir Putin to become law.

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Currently, only Russians aged 18-40 and foreigners aged 18-30 can enlist as professional soldiers in the Russian military.

And, at the same time, the Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland Tales dare to say publicly that the losses have been:

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The defence ministry said on March 25 that 1,351 Russian service personnel had been killed and 3,825 wounded since Moscow sent its armed forces into Ukraine on Feb. 24. It has not updated its casualty figures since.

It takes a really strong stomach to be able to digest so much shit. Do not die for Putin, even if you are above 40 you have better things to do in life.

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legendary
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The US and UK are being reluctant to send MLRS with a range of 60 to 70 km to Ukraine, because they are afraid those could actually reach deep in Russian territory. But that can change from one day to another. ...

That would just induce Russia to take an extra '60 to 70 km' out of Ukraine which, by all indications, was never really in their plans.  They said they were going to solve the issue of the Eastern civilians getting shelled, and they pretty much say what the mean and mean what they say so it seems.



As of now, they seem pretty much unable to take 20.

Russia is not a winner of this war, no matter the military outcome.
I don't understand, can you explain what you mean?

That Aldolf Putin's Russia is going to become a very difficult place to live in in the next few years irrespective of the outcome of the war. Diplomacy, commerce, borders and perception have been damaged for decades.


Russia is being exposed as weak militarily. It still has a stockpile of nukes, but is vulnerable to invasion/attack.
Does anyone in the world feel the strength to attack weak defenseless Russia? ...

No need to. This was has shown how a determined country which in theory had an inferior army can stop and, to a point, make Adolf Putin look like a stupid. He has based all his influence around Russia in the concept of having a large, technologically advanced and capable army.

This ability to influence by force and threat is now severely diminished and US is going to make sure that sanctions prevent any rebuild.
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There is no winning strategy for Putin. And time works against him - he doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to make new tanks, missiles etc at the rate he's expending them.
Russia has this shoe polish for ten Ukraine in store. Grin

Yes, bad things have been said, need to invade them all and make friends kill their children. That'll teach them to not say bad things.

Pyccкий миp in its most delusional form.
When kids misbehave, good parents punish them. And bad parents indulge in childish pranks and raise bastards with a sense of their own impunity.
legendary
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The operation will not end until this map is restored. Run to Siberia now, lol.
The problem of Ukraine is in the small scale of ambitions. Your wettest fantasies don't even extend to the Urals, and Russia thinks in categories from Lisbon to Sakhalin. You chose an opponent from a different weight class, bunny. Grin

Talk about delusions...Do you even hear yourself?

Put down Stolichnaya.

Moжeм пoвтopить the break up of the Soviet Union and put all the Soviet cтapики in mental institutions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUyP3egluFY&list
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I still do not understand. Any good winning strategy must be flexible so as not to depend on any particular tactical setback. Putin certainly has a very good, flexible and winning strategy in Ukraine. Even if events do not develop according to the scenario that you yourself have come up with, and does not fit into the time frame that you have set for yourself. I have already said above and I will repeat now - time works for Russia.

There is no winning strategy for Putin. And time works against him - he doesn't have the manufacturing capacity to make new tanks, missiles etc at the rate he's expending them.

Russia can well afford to advance slowly, grinding Ukrainian reinforcements approaching the front with artillery from a safe distance and destroying military equipment supplies from the West. Russia may well allow even to stop the advance completely and spend the winter to look at developments on the economic front - how Europe will react to the shortage of gas and food. A special operation is not a sprint, but a marathon. We're in the second phase of the operation now, and there could be a dozen of them. There is a high probability that the operation will not end in Ukraine and Russia will also have to demilitarize and denazify the Baltic States, Finland and Poland - their rhetoric towards Russia has been very aggressive lately.

Yes, bad things have been said, need to invade them all and make friends kill their children. That'll teach them to not say bad things.

Pyccкий миp in its most delusional form.
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Russia is being exposed as weak militarily. It still has a stockpile of nukes, but is vulnerable to invasion/attack.
Does anyone in the world feel the strength to attack weak defenseless Russia? I don't see a line of applicants. All Russophobes have fled to the corners and are barking at Russia from a safe distance, only Ukraine is taking the rap for everyone.
There are no countries that have an interest in invading Russia. I don't think any western country would benefit strategically by successfully invading Russia.

I could potentially see China invading Russia in an effort to secure oil/gas supplies ahead of an invasion of Taiwan.
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Ukrainians will resist


Ukrainian artillerymen mastered M777 howitzers.

American M777 howitzers have already arrived in Ukraine and are actively used by our military at the front. The skillfulness of Ukrainian artillerymen with new weapons surprises even their colleagues from NATO.

Ukrainian artillery became the "god" of war against russian invaders
The United Forces group assured that even atheists in the war against russia believed in a "god" - the god of war, namely Ukrainian artillery. It is noted that howitzers of the US Marine Corps were used in a number of wars and demonstrated their effectiveness. However, the intense battles that Ukraine is now engulfed in have become a real test for American weapons.

The Joint Forces Group published a photo of the combat operation of a battery of M777 howitzers with a caliber of 155 millimeters named after Hetman Daniil Apostol. Currently, artillerymen in the JFO zone are destroying enemy targets and providing powerful fire support to Ukrainian mechanized and motorized infantry units in the Bakhmut direction.

"Fire does not burn the fierce," added the head of the gunners. The grouping of the Joint Forces, in turn, emphasized that the heroism and military skill of Ukrainian artillerymen, together with partner assistance with weapons, daily bring Ukraine's victory over the russian occupiers closer.

https://24tv.ua/ru/ukrainskie-artilleristy-ovladeli-gaubicami-m777-i-udivljajut-dazhe-kolleg-iz-nato-moshhnye-foto_n1990766

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The operation will not end until this map is restored. Run to Siberia now, lol.
The problem of Ukraine is in the small scale of ambitions. Your wettest fantasies don't even extend to the Urals, and Russia thinks in categories from Lisbon to Sakhalin. You chose an opponent from a different weight class, bunny. Grin

Russia is being exposed as weak militarily. It still has a stockpile of nukes, but is vulnerable to invasion/attack.
Does anyone in the world feel the strength to attack weak defenseless Russia? I don't see a line of applicants. All Russophobes have fled to the corners and are barking at Russia from a safe distance, only Ukraine is taking the rap for everyone.
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Russia is not a winner of this war, no matter the military outcome.
I don't understand, can you explain what you mean?

Remember back when Russia invaded all of Ukraine and tried to "decapitate the government"?  

Remember how everyone, including Western media and most or all posters in this thread, including myself thought it would not take long for Russia to accomplish their objectives?

Remember how, after failing to take the capital quickly, they spent weeks trying to encircle Kyiv?  

Remember how you thought they were intentionally not completely surrounding it to allow civilians to leave and "all who remained and did not lay down their weapons would be destroyed" and "it would be foolish to think otherwise"?

Remember how you were sure there would be a parade in Russian controlled Kyiv on victory day?

Remember how during all of this, Putin made a new law making it illegal to even call the war a war, because that would imply Ukraine posed some sort of threat to Russian soldiers?

Remember what happened after all that?  How Russia had to retreat, the flag ship of the Russian Navy was sunk, thousands and thousands of Russian soldiers were killed, and even Russian bloggers imbedded with the military that normally relay the State approved propaganda began criticizing the stupid decisions being made by those in charge?

I think that's what he means.

I still do not understand. Any good winning strategy must be flexible so as not to depend on any particular tactical setback. Putin certainly has a very good, flexible and winning strategy in Ukraine. Even if events do not develop according to the scenario that you yourself have come up with, and does not fit into the time frame that you have set for yourself. I have already said above and I will repeat now - time works for Russia. Russia can well afford to advance slowly, grinding Ukrainian reinforcements approaching the front with artillery from a safe distance and destroying military equipment supplies from the West. Russia may well allow even to stop the advance completely and spend the winter to look at developments on the economic front - how Europe will react to the shortage of gas and food. A special operation is not a sprint, but a marathon. We're in the second phase of the operation now, and there could be a dozen of them. There is a high probability that the operation will not end in Ukraine and Russia will also have to demilitarize and denazify the Baltic States, Finland and Poland - their rhetoric towards Russia has been very aggressive lately.
Putin has surrounded himself with 'yes men'. His strategy was to complete the war in a couple of days. This is evidenced by the fact that he did not even plan for resupply lines to help the front lines.

Russia is being exposed as weak militarily. It still has a stockpile of nukes, but is vulnerable to invasion/attack.
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