Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 285. (Read 60788 times)

Same goes for me...but he used that kind of loaded questions like 10 times on me...just wanted him to taste his own medicine
Also, you have to have much broader knowledge about events, as "Russia attacked Ukraine" is pretty simplified version for general,
mostly dumb and uninterested public
I bet you can do better, but I don't know if you want to

Also, you have to have much broader knowledge about events, as "Russia attacked Ukraine" is pretty simplified version

I know it's not addressed to me but it's an absurdly propagandist question to ask.

For example, I don't support POW torture but I support Ukrainians defending their country by other means, such as killing non-POW enemy troops using conventional warfare; I don't support Russian forces killing civilians but I would support Russians if they were to defend their country from e.g. China or some other aggressor.

But the fact right now is that Russian military invaded Ukraine so there is no "both sides equally bad" bullshit here. Invaders must go home or die.

If 10 years later Ukraine proclaims that Russians are nazis and invades Voronezh we can reapportion the blame.

How can you support people who torture POWs, and then burn them alive?

Russian POW gets a knife jammed into his eye socket until he dies

...
 glorification of Bandera and the SS division "Galitchina", mixed with gay-parades.
...
 God will be your judge.

We are NOT talking about just a pnone call here. We are talking about the torture and murder of prisoners of war which have been commited by Ukrainian forces.

See? You're so brainwashed, its unbelievable
How can you support people who torture POWs, and then burn them alive?

See? You're so brainwashed, its unbelievable
How can you support people who torture POWs, and then burn them alive?

Sure, let's have a look at your stuff there:


Yep yep... we all know your arguments: Americans are bad, it is ok to kill and destroy because Americans are bad and they did it first and Americans are bad and Iraq and Syria are bad so it is Ok if civilians are killed because Americans did it first... and the world is bad, so it is ok to be bad.

Result: Putin is not responsible, it just the world.

You said you were Croatian? It is difficult to believe. Croatia and probably yourself if you are who you say you are only exist because they decided to intervene.


Yeh, it is not Putin, he is just doing what he has to do because the americans did it first and the world is bad... all the hate is created by someone else outside that want bad stuff for Russia. It is completely unrelated to the guy sending a 200k strong army into Ukraine, that is all right.

Result: Putin is not responsible, it just the world.


Yeah again, America is bad, Al Asad is just a good guy that never killed civilians, he just did what he had to because Americans did it first and because the world is bad so it is ok if he kills and destroys...

Result: Putin is not responsible of supporting Al Asad, it just the world.

Mmmm....I am starting to see a pattern here...

Remember one simple thing, and if you have a bad memory, then write it down and read it every day before breakfast instead of morning prayer - a Russian soldier will never shoot at civilians, he will rather shoot at his commander who gave him such an order. Therefore, absolutely no one in Russia believes in cheap Ukrainian propaganda fakes, it is simply impossible because of the peculiarities of our mentality.

I don't know how events in Ukraine will develop, the future has a probabilistic nature and there are always more than one options. I think the scenario of this operation was developed in the strategic planning center and it has a dozen stages (assuming that the second stage is now underway), with a lot of branches in case of various response options of all involved and interested parties and existing centers of power in the world. I will try to outline in general terms the option that seems to me now the most probable. Ukraine has already lost Crimea, DPR and LPR, just deal with it. Romania will not get Transcarpathia, and Poland will not get the Lviv region - under no circumstances will there be territorial concessions to Europe, let them wipe their drool - they will not receive gifts from Russia. If Poland does not heed the exhortations of NATO and turns its back on Ukraine, it will receive a knockout blow from Russia of such force that NATO will immediately begin to taper to the west. I think there will be no special problems with the entire left bank of the Dnieper, this part of Ukraine is mainly Russian-speaking and pro-Russian. After the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass and the cleansing of the bunker near Azovstal in Mariupol, the question will arise of what to do with western Ukraine, where anti-Russian sentiments are very strong and "demilitarization" by Russian forces can easily turn into a mass genocide. I think here even the active peacekeeping participation of a third conditionally neutral side may be required, and for this China seems to be the most suitable candidate. China has a large, well-trained and disciplined army, and China's army is severely lacking in combat experience amid its evolving conflict with Taiwan (I think China last saw combat in 1979 or so). So there is a greater than zero chance that the Chinese army, supported by precision-guided missile strikes from Russia, will be engaged in the demilitarization of western Ukraine in order to continue to stop the supply of weapons from the West. Ukrainian 600 thousand infantry without the support of armored vehicles and aircraft for China is a light snack, not exceeding its natural population growth per day.

Except you're been brainwashed much more than him

I always say: if Germans killed as many Americans and Englishmen as they killed Russians,
there would be no Germans today...well, maybe few kept in ZOOs

Look what they did to Japan or Vietnam for much less casualties

Ukrainians will suffer...but I don't think you should blame them...outside factors want Russia to bleed, and they'll help Ukraine,
but they're not interested in Ukraine fast win, they want both sides destructed as much as possible
Sowing as much hatred is one of goals

Why would Russia attack station with rocket made to kill people, and not with one that would destroy
train station? Damage to station itself is negligible.
Russia instead supposedly used rocket made to damage their reputation

Remember Assad? That stupid guy always gassed his own people when it was politically worst moment for him.
(or at least USA media wanted us to believe that, but UN investigation told otherwise)

It must be then be only army in the world that does not have (or creates) psychopaths. So all the buildings, nearly all Mariupol and all the area around Kyiv was assumed to be fully empty of civilians when shelled? Interesting that you consider your view "sober understanding of the situation" and say this a few minutes later.

In modern armed conflict, the one who controls the airspace usually wins. Russia took control of the air in Ukraine in the first hours of the start of the operation, it was then that everything was strategically over for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. That is why, for the entire first week since the start of the operation, Zelensky asked and even demanded that NATO close the airspace over Ukraine - because this is a key moment. Turkey has not joined the economic sanctions against Russia, but as a supplier of Bayraktars, it has done more for Ukraine than the US and Europe combined.

The only real advantage of Ukraine now is a noticeable quantitative superiority in manpower. If the third wave of mobilization is successful, Ukraine can, in 2-3 weeks, bring the strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to 600 thousand soldiers and gain an advantage of 2-2.5 times over the number of Russian troops in Ukraine, together with the people's militia of Donbass. This is a noticeable advantage, and for defensive battles in urban areas - even overwhelming. And the difficult course of the cleansing of Mariupol shows this well. I am writing this paragraph so that you understand that I am not driven by naked jingoistic patriotism, but by a fairly sober understanding of the situation. ...

Remember one simple thing, and if you have a bad memory, then write it down and read it every day before breakfast instead of morning prayer - a Russian soldier will never shoot at civilians, he will rather shoot at his commander who gave him such an order. Therefore, absolutely no one in Russia believes in cheap Ukrainian propaganda fakes, it is simply impossible because of the peculiarities of our mentality....

Your wording seems to imply that this was a real execution. I hope that's not your intent.

An advertisement video appeared on social networks in which a woman in national Ukrainian clothes cuts the throat of a Russian man.
Internet users recognized in the woman the actress of the Lviv theater Andrianna Kurilets.
The footage contains scenes of violence!

Remember one simple thing, and if you have a bad memory, then write it down and read it every day before breakfast instead of morning prayer - a Russian soldier will never shoot at civilians, he will rather shoot at his commander who gave him such an order. Therefore, absolutely no one in Russia believes in cheap Ukrainian propaganda fakes, it is simply impossible because of the peculiarities of our mentality.