Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 291. (Read 77354 times)

WTF did i just read? Ukraine literally proposes to call heroes and make stamps and coins for people who they openly agree had committed atrocities? That's some new level of tolerance

I don't know how many people you believe read the English Politics section of the bitcoin forum before heading out to fight in Ukraine, but you might want to dial down your propaganda, you seem to have it set at 11

The intensity of the fight in Donetsk is at maximum. This is WW I in terms of the masses sent to assault strong positions. Even if Russia makes a tactical advance, the cost in lives will have long term consequences for Adolf Putin's army. The next week is very important in terms of territory, but even as of now it is clear that the price to pay to achieve any military advance in Ukraine is unsustainable for the Russian Pyschos.

Sievierdonetsk is going to be an ugly fight. In the case of Mariupol, the Ukrainian army could not help. On this case, depending on how things roll-out, the number of losses in both side may been higher that ever seen in many decades.

To those supporting the war, to those who have friends joining the army, to their families and relatives: Make an informed decision when you sign in:

https://youtu.be/5OQbIEKbZyc

The war is senseless, the leadership cares little for the foot soldier and Russia is not at risk. Joining the Russian army is not easy money nor a way of life, it is a way of death.

Here,how about this one? More nazi collaborators listed for "hero" status. If you proudly and shamelessly embrace their legacy without any care about what they did to Jews and other ethnic minorities then that makes you a NAZI sympathiser by default. Are you a NAZI sympathiser light_warrior ? I myself am Jewish and want my tax money and donations spent to help peaceful refugees and provide medical assistance but not to aid and abet anyone who makes light of the fact these "heroes" slaughtered our people and many others. Also stop using the typical russian sympathiser slur against anyone who dares question your "heroes" war criminal past crimes as it only makes you look like a thug and we already know there are plenty of thugs on BOTH sides of this conflict. Thugs never apologise or show remorse for what they do or have done. Thugs have no place in a civilised world.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2021/08/04/controversy-as-ukraine-mulls-giving-hero-status-to-alleged-war-criminals

Watched a little of it.  Enough to be pretty confident that it was nothing but a script.  Zelensky is a competent actor, which is part of the reason he got the job of playing 'real-life' Ukrainian prez, but the guy playing the 'Nazi' was not.  He couldn't wipe the grin off his face.

Zelensky's wife (or the person playing her) is, like most good Jewkrainians including the oligarch who hired the crew and pays their salaries, holed up in a multi-million dollar place in Israel so it seems:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/eiyKqQ3JXEcg/.

Maybe those bad bad Rooshins (who are perennially days away from total defeat as we all know) are posing a security threat in Kiev, but it isn't significant enough keep Bojo, Pelosi, etc from strolling around the streets of that fair city at will.  If they seem as though they own the place, it might be because they do.

If there are a lot of confusing conundrums which cause people issues, I suggest entertaining a different model than is what is presented by the mainstream media.  When one views things through the lens of Zelensky's job being to help destroy, sink, and carve up the country, things fall into place and make a lot more sense.  Very similar things are going on in other countries as well, and that definitely includes the United States.

That lunatic lost it
https://thescotfree.com/europe/go-fk-yourselves-zelensky-office-tells-western-officials/

Lira Gonzalo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NSczlMgd4c

I'm worried about you Tash.

Anyway if oneone did not see my post yesterday of Elensky arguing and or telling a azov commander to sacrifice his men tell me i will send a private mail. Local forum nazies deleted the post.

 Interesting, all that while officially agreeing in spirit that Taiwan was part of China. I was not aware of the scale! Things seem to be primed there, just needs a spark.


Your propaganda is getting tiresome, I'll let others to engage that or counter with Russian propaganda, you guys seem to enjoy slinging that at each other.

I just also realized that there were Normandy format meeting in Berlin on February 11, 2022.  Seems like Russia was told to pretty much fuck off back then. Putin recognized the separatist republics 10 days later on 21st Feb. Guess the players were seated and the cards were dealt back then, only thing left was to play out each of their hands

I can tell how much you're concerned about Taiwan by all the threads you've started on the topic, and even that is not enough since you need to derail this one.

Meanwhile in the real world, Russian nazis have outdone themselves again. Well, they did it a month ago, I just came across it now:

The US has been sending weapons to Taiwan for almost 50 years.

Some highlights from the past couple years:

40 155mm M109A6 Paladin Medium Self-Propelled Howitzer System and related equipment. ($750 million)

100 Harpoon Coastal Defense Systems (HCDS) consisting of up to four hundred 400 RGM-84L-4 Harpoon Block II Surface Launched Missiles; and four 4 RTM-84L-4 Harpoon Block II Exercise Missiles. Also included are four hundred and eleven 411 containers, 100 Harpoon Coastal Defense System Launcher Transporter Units, 25 radar trucks, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment. ($2.3 billion)

135 AGM-84H standoff land attack missile expanded response (SLAM-ER) missiles, 4 ATM-84H SLAM-ER telemetry missiles, and 12 CATM-84H captive air training missiles (CATM), including 151 containers, spare parts, support and test equipment, operator manuals, technical documentation, training. ($1 billion)

108 M1A2T main battle tanks, 14 M88 recovery vehicles, 16 M1070A1 transporters, 16 M1000 trailers, ammunition. ($2 billion)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan

Offer Taiwan to join NATO, or start sending weapons to them (you know for defense of course), sit back and watch the fireworks, make sure to prepare "but China invaded Taiwan, Taiwan didn't invade China" statements. Start a war and get the freedom spreader support, two birds with one stone!

Edit: Mind you i'm not a fan of repressive China by any stretch of imagination, but at what point people will start seeing that such approaches should in no way be supported (even if they're sold to the public as being done for all of the right reasons)!

One can claim any stupid shit, but Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, Ukraine did not invade Russia. Same in 2022. No amount of strawmanning/whataboutism can justify feeding parts of sovereign countries to the fascist Moscow regime just because Putin is stuck in his imperial delusions.

You forgot to mention China's nuclear weapons in Mexico, you're slipping.

Or one can claim that there was no problem in Europe, and how France, Germany and all of EU were growing and all cool with Ukraine and Russia and the status quo before US decided to issue their freedom coup cookies in 2014. Then you yell but what about freedoms (of course exclusively for non US aligned governments), and we're back to the logic of how "freedom" can conveniently be used as justification for US to start any war it wishes. I mean US gets to undercut competition from EU, EU becomes fully reliant on US, Military-industrial complex is happy, with a possibility of collapsing Russia, it's a win/win/win/win. If that doesn't work or Russia just ends up winning too fast, rinse and repeat send freedom cookies (with weapons) to Moldova/Belarus/Kazakhstan/Georgia/Taiwan (you know cause Americans just care so much about spreading freedoms to those countries)

All they really need is a couple TI-85s to stop the death by miscalculation problem.

T62s don't have autoloaders, so this is going to be interesting indeed. The rate of killing their own soldiers may go up by 33% - crew of 4 instead of 3.

Also... T62s use 115mm rounds (as opposed to 125mm in T-64/72/etc), which are probably between non-existent and 20+ years old by now. So maybe they won't be firing at all, just used as "live recon" that Russians are famous for.

Again, they expected a surrender, miscalculated, send insufficient troops and let both special forces and a good chunk of the unready bulk of the army die for nothing. What the f*ck... all the world except Ukrainians expected a quick win for Russia, but it seems that your Psychos have tried to bite a porcupine.

Initial downsizing.. oh, I see, you are under the impression that time plays in favour of Putin's army? You have your head so full or military hype that you do not see how difficult is going to be life in Russia for the next decade. These people did figure it out already:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60697763
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_following_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/30/europe/russia-ukraine-brain-drain-graphics-intl-cmd/index.html

They have chosen to not die for Putin.

You are absolutely delusional and trying to ignore hard facts:
- Poland would not provide weapons to a country that wishes to invade later nor would encourage NATO and EU to do so.
- Poland does not want any "warmth" from Russia. The had plenty of that during communism and you cannot fool them. They have already experienced "Russian friendship".
- Poland is very vocal and active diplomatically about requesting support from Ukraine.

I can imagine that somehow the official media in Russia are trying to sell this kind of crap, but each day people may be more unwilling to accept it.


EDITED:

https://t.me/informnapalm/8812
Interesting, Russia is sending T-62s.... this is a tank from 1961. It can only serve for the most basic occupation and civil containment tasks  (sending it to fight may also be possible if you want to keep killing your own soldiers). One would thing that "your brothers" are reluctant to be Putinified.

Yeah.  They overestimated their abilities and underestimated Ukraine.


You're doing that thing you do where you just make shit up that you want to be true.  Like when you were trying to argue that global cooling is the real threat to the planet.  Come back from fantasy land.

Feb 24 - Putin orders invasion.  Kiev is attacked.

- Bunch of embarrassing losses for Russia. -
- Massive convoy slowly moves towards Kiev, but keeps stalling due to lack of supplies and their tanks keep exploding. (massive waste of resources to end up turning around) -


March 29 - Russia announces "drastic reduction of military activity" around Kiev.

March 31 - About 20% of the forces begin to withdraw.

April 2 - Russian retreat from Kyiev is complete.

Russia sent a tiny fraction of what it would take to control Kiev, and they pulled them out overnight when their diversion action was complete.  Losses were minimal, and even that was something of a gain because when the Ukrainian secret police psychos came back and started the executions of 'collaborators' who accepted Russian food donations that under the rules of war Russia was obligated to supply (see. Bucha), they pretty much guaranteed that the populace of what is left of Jan 2022 Ukraine, after Poland takes their chunk of the country, would be more warm to relations with Moscow than to the West.  Especially since Russian is where the energy resources, and the rubles needed to acquire them, are.

They still do not see it. Russia and Ukraine are not the winners of this war. Even if Putin achieves the best outcome of what now is possible, he would have conquered a desert. Follow the money and ask yourself:

- Can Putin wage this war without the income from selling oil and gas at inflated prices?
- Who could lower the oil prices if they wanted?

There you have the winners: OPEC & US. US also gets another country to buy NATO standar weaponry and munitions and a global re-arming for its weapons industry.

You will also see the greatest losers during the southern hemisphere winter. You will see them dying of hunger because grain is going through the roof.


To even the most mediocre analyst, the strategy was certainly to take Kyiv - because you do not loose thousands of troops and tens if not hundreds of tanks on a diversionary attack. If you just need to pin the enemy all you have to do is be there instead of trying a number of suicidal attack. They were just counting on a mass surrender that did not happen. Putin and his Psychos are gangsters and they are mostly moved by fear and threat and expect other to surrender by fear and threat. They were wrong and the new strategy shows that they know it.

Poland, a NATO country that has actually supplied weapons to Ukraine and even asked for US help in sending them a number of MIG warplanes, taking territory of another prospective member. 0.000000001% chance at this point. I really hope that Putin is somehow counting on that for his next masterplan.

Do not die for Putin. He is clueless about Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/poland-has-delivered-tanks-ukraine-says-polish-pm-2022-04-25/
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/poland-provides-ukraine-with-additional-defence-assistance-including-over-200-t-72-tanks-articleshow.html
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/poland-has-supplied-7-billion-worth-of-weapons-to-ukraine-over-two-months-here-s-what-it-sent-to-fight-russia
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/poland-key-in-western-weapons-supplies-to-ukraine/
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/poland-to-convince-germany-to-send-heavy-weapons-to-ukraine

There goes you hopes and lies. Poland will not act against Ukraine while a pro-western government manages the country. The reason is very simple: Ukraine is not a threat to anyone. Putin's Russia is.