Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 302. (Read 68869 times)

I see they supplied you with new material so that you wouldn't have to talk about faulty wiring and danger of smoking.

However projecting Putin's imperial delusions on other countries doesn't really work well outside of Russian propaganda space. Russian Federation is the aggressor. Not Poland. Stay on topic, comrade.

Here is an interesting recent article from which you can better understand what place Poland occupies or wants to occupy in this conflict. It is about a possible union between Poland and Western Ukraine, on the territory of which Poland has claims for historical reasons. Moreover, since 2015, an organization for the return of Polish property in Ukraine "Restitution of Kresov" has been operating in Poland, and about 100 thousand Poles are able to prove that they are the heirs and successors of people who owned real estate in Western Ukraine. And in 2016, Ukraine signed, together with the Sejm of Poland, a joint declaration condemning the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact. By signing this declaration, Kyiv actually abandoned the six regions of Western Ukraine in favor of Poland, which Ukraine received under this pact.

Now it is more clear to me why Poland is so determined and seems ready to take a direct part even without coordination with NATO. This is a historic chance for Poland to become the "customs office of Europe" with physical control over two branches of the gas pipeline from Russia to Europe instead of the current one.

The bad news for Ukraine is that it looks like it could lose not only East and South, but also West as a result of this operation. Only the demilitarized Center will remain, on which all debts for weapons supplied by the West will be hanged.

using that logic, USA is done?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2LupUXRUxbA

I guess Texas and California are going back to Mexico soon  

The revolution in Russian is gathering steam, more targets are now under flame....

We witness history, the final disintegration of russia.

https://twitter.com/spook_info/status/1518428523484098560

I answered to this. You quote me on the topic of flechettes, I answer to that. But, to be honest, I was also not paying much attention either.

You weren't paying attention...we were talking about Bucha during time Russia kept it occupied

There is also a constant mention of the nuclear arsenal in Putin's controlled media "debates". Poland, Germany,... and then a "test" of Satan II in the middle of a war. The message to the population is clear: You are part of a strong country that can destroy others. You are safe, we will win and nothing bad can happen to you.

Is that working? Well, even the dumbest of the Russians does understand that once you use nuclear weapons, you can be certain to get hit back. I would be fucking scared to hear to official sources talking over and over about nuclear strikes. Particularly if I were living in Moscow, perhaps even St Petersburg with the right wind and weather. Perhaps the first strike would be in Belarus, depending on the target hit by Russia.

Please, do not think that I am talking theoretically about this. That comes from known results from "wargames" exercises by the Pentagon and NATO desk-based exercises.
 

I know you're being facetious, but I was hanging out in some Russian TG channels this morning and it's a bit of a mess there...

"When is Putin finally going to start a real war?"
"This can't be Ukraine, this is NATO attacking us"
"Why didn't they appreciate our good will gesture (retreat from Kyiv)"
"Let's nuke Kyiv"
"Let's nuke Poland"
"Mobilization" (ok, that one is just Girkin)

The "flechettes" have not used by Ukraine and they did not have any opportunity to use them. That is fake information aimed to created doubt. The facts are very clear, the dates are very clear, the testimonies are clear. There is no shadow of doubt of Putin's Psychos using it on civilians.

Biden is outdated, but has relatively efficient people around and listens to them - you may not like his politics, but there is a technocratic machine around him. And the best thing - US citizens can vote against him if they choose to do so.

Putin is trying to be in charge or pretending to be and his courtiers are "loyal" as in Mafia loyal, but unable to tell the truth nor achieve other than the killing of Russian soldiers and Ukrainian civilians. Putin appears to be holding the desk and crouching in the chair ridiculously. That guy is on meds and it is not Aspirins.

The UK is forcing the war now?? Try retreating from Ukraine, that is most likely to end any "blackmailing".


No, bullets are not cheaper when you are aiming for mass killings and you need to get close to the target to use them. The Nazi psychos, similarly to Putin's psychos, decide on more "efficient" methods.

It is difficult to say that Russia’s advance in the Donbas is very slow, because there Russia is opposed by the most combat-ready grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is very well entrenched there. There seem to be more Terodefense militias in the south, who are now having a very hard time against the regular army. On the other hand, armored vehicles with the letter O from the central military district are increasingly visible in the front-line chronicle, and the letters V  and Z now look like rotations or regroupings. Shelling in the Donbass is more like "harassing" fire to prevent the Armed Forces from regrouping than to prepare for a decisive offensive.

Theoretically, both sides of the conflict have the opportunity to use such ammunition. The Armed Forces of Ukraine used them during the siege of Slavyansk in 2015. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not hide the fact that they carried out artillery shelling of Bucha at a time when it was occupied by Russian troops.

I met on the net the opinion that the UK is thus blackmailing Zelensky so that he continues to escalate the conflict. In general, it is strange that the English newspaper discloses the details of the forensic medical examination before the end of the investigation, especially if it does not fit with the original version of the Ukrainian side.

Are you seriously?

I am especially amused by your ability to diagnose Putin by his hand on the edge of the table, while Biden regularly shakes hands with the void.

It is still strange using those on area you keep occupied...bullet is simpler, cheaper, and harder
to find out who killed them, but Russians seems to insist to kill civilians with weapons that
can only be traced to Russia. Stupid Russians. And if missed slightly, they could kill their own troops

They were a part of the Budapest Memorandum in the 90s: Russia, the UK and America agreed to protect Ukraine and a few other countries in the region in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons.



They've been in a military conflict since Russia took Crimea 8 years ago.  There have been more than 10,000 deaths from then until Feb 24, 2022.

Of course, it is not due to any Ukrainian action... is just that fuel depots tend to burn spontaneously. Maybe all the personnel was on leave and they sent there a Putin's cousin to operate the facilities. And the research centres in Moscow are not sabotage - you see Ukraine neither denies nor confirms, so it is all right... you are safe. Sleep tight. Nobody is going to get hurt tonight.

Repeat with me: "I am safe in Putin's Russia, I am safe in Putin's Russia, I am safe in Putin's Russia..."

It's not a Ukrainian attack, stop posting propaganda. This is a normal fire that happens from time to time in oil depots. Most likely this time it was human error. Oil is very flammable and tends to cause problems from time to time. Brave Russian firefighters are dealing with it.

Not really that curious.  The videos are from early March, before Russia realized what they were getting themselves into.

The problem is that you're being lied to, and also deceiving yourself.

On the contrary they have a free choice. Free means that you do not have Putin's army shelling your cities. Unless you are of the opinion that someone pointing a gun to your head is being free (which you might, given your posting history).

If Putin were there to "give people choice" why does he not celebrate a referendums in peace and with international observers and let the press speak freely and allow opposition candidates out of jail. I mean, those that he did not kill already for speaking in public about him.. And that too in Georgia, Syria.

Putin is not "freeing" anyone, he wants all under his thumb. You may not understand this, but other people do not accept this without fighting.


The decision is not difficult: I someone tries to take your home, you resist. You have been living under a despot for so long that you think is a difficult decision. You have lost your will to be free, even perhaps convincing yourself that is better this way so that you do not have to do anything risky. Chairborne totally.

Mariupol still has not fallen and even Putin recognised it in his farcical appearance with his chief psycho, while holding the table as if it was to run away from him.



No is not. The gas and iron ore and industry of the Donbas. Encircling the Ukranian army south of Izum, taking Mariupol and, if they observe weakness, trying a push for Odessa.

But politically, trying to present some short of  victory by May 9th and hiding the losses to the people of Russia.


From the article:



There are 8000 of this "flechettes" in a shell. There is only one possible use for it when fired on a civilian area.

More countries that need "referendums" according to your theories:

Switzerland


Belgium



I think we should actually start holding elections and referendums in Russia according to this map:



Right now a distant possibility - a not that unlikely case once Putin's army is proven no longer able to hold the regional power status - the "superpower" status is long gone.

It is curious that the protest action is openly taking place in the city occupied by the Russians and no one seems to be shooting at them. And there are more people in the queues for Russian humanitarian aid than at these rallies. This video is more than a month and a half old, since then the mood in Melitopol seems to have changed to a more pro-Russian one.

The problem is not that you are being lied to. Your problem is that you are deceiving yourself.

You are lying, as always.
Here are some videos with residents of Melitopol.

Residents of Melitopol meet Russian Nazis
https://youtu.be/NMG3whbQygo

Protest action in temporarily occupied Melitopol
https://youtu.be/eFi191_FC0Q

Melitopol (Zaporizhzhia Oblast) inhabitants asking Russian soldiers not to leave because they fear Ukrainian Nazis and what happend at Bucha
https://parler.com/feed/69c31671-e331-4b1c-a52a-67f49b154145

I think the ambitions to take the South of Ukraine are not the main, but the accompanying goal of Russia in this operation. Moreover, it appeared already during the operation due to the unwillingness of Ukraine to voluntarily lay down its arms. The stronger and longer Ukraine resists, the worse the terms of the peace agreement will be for it. Russia does not need a truce for 10-15-20 years, in order to then again step on the same Ukrainian rake. Putin will not repeat Khrushchev's mistake in rehabilitating Bandera in the 1950s.