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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
Here, in more detail, footage of the surrender of the militants of the Azov nationalist unit and Ukrainian servicemen blocked at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.

Congrats. You've finally scored a point. You've got negative 13 points now.
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So, once Putin dies or get overthrown, and some hardliner replaces him,
what will happen next? Would it be good if Chechens get their republic
and 30-40 nukes?
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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
Here, in more detail, footage of the surrender of the militants of the Azov nationalist unit and Ukrainian servicemen blocked at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.
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General conclusion:
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At the moment, our troops are drawn into exhausting offensive battles, continuing (as I have already noted) "to play by the rules proposed by the enemy." And the point is not only and not so much in individual examples of "outstanding bungling" (such as forcing S. Donets), but in the fact that losses incurred in daily offensive battles (not ending in the defeat of the enemy) cannot be quickly compensated by trained replacements. While the enemy continues to frantically prepare its strategic reserves. And where he will deliver his blows, when our troops finally "run out of steam" - no one knows (although this can also be predicted, but I will not do this publicly ... until I do).
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I am going to allow myself to quote some WW I notes here:

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During the war, the liberal nationalist Progressists’ Utro Rossii (Russia’s Morning), published by Moscow industrialists, acquired considerable influence (circulation in 1916: 40,000-45,000; in 1917: up to 150,000). They actively pushed the subject of “German atrocities” on the military front and “German domination” in the Russian rear, while also advocating Slavophile ideas about Russia’s war aims. Most newspapers, highbrow and lowbrow, came under the influence of such ideas in the beginning of the war.

Does this sound familiar?

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Tsarist censorship strictly limited the information about military operations that could appear in the press. However, it could not stem the increasing criticism of the government. One of the main features of the Russian press during the First World War was the search for an internal enemy. The press understood the aim of the war to be the transformation of the world in accordance with, depending on the publication’s politics, Slavophile, liberal-democratic, or socialist ideals.

So, next step will be the search for the "internal enemy", this explains the purging of high ranking officers, but soon "internal nazi's" and "gayrope collaborators" will be "found gloriously" by the Russian Intelligence(less) Service.

And lastly...

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The fate of Russia and its tsarist government was bound up in the tragedy of World War I. Like other European powers, Russia entered the conflict with a haughty overestimation of its own military capacity and a critical underestimation of how long and costly the war would be. More than two years of total war would place enormous strain on Russia’s underdeveloped infrastructure and social conditions, contributing directly to the collapse of the tsarist regime.

I am starting to see a pattern here. The only issue is that a revolt on a nuclear power is not indifferent to the rest of the world.


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Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

Ahhhh... "that type of source".
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LoL
Nice try, troll. I'm too valuable on another kind of front. Better keep doing what i ecxel at, unlinke drunk RA mobilized civilians of the "eastern front".
I quoted and highlighted this, because with that wording you are admitting, once again, that the "special military operation" is in fact war.

While Putin wanted to fight, UA has to fight. He wants to fight so much, that he's coordinating bataillions himself with his failing general of choice (what was his name already?). He should let the army professionals do their job, but no... This reveals overburdening. Putin is losing not only his mind, but also (t)his war. He should fight on the "political front" to not get Russia completely isolated. Instead he shows his emperor-complex. He went insane. Do you think two years of fear-of-covid self-isolation contributed to his sanity? If so, you're delusional.

EDIT: Just look at him. He's almost finished. Just wait for it.


I think big part of this war IS to actually isolate Russia from West...they were not wise enough, or had enough manpower to do what
China did with Great Firewall of China, and now doing it this, much more primitive way, and using war as excuse, among other things
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Igor Girkin: Russian army veteran and former Federal Security Service (FSB) officer who played a key role in the Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, and later the War in Donbas as an organizer of militant groups of the Donetsk People's Republic's. Girkin led a group of militants into Ukraine where he participated in the Siege of Sloviansk. During the battle he increased his influence and ultimately became the de-facto military commander of all separatist forces in the Donbas region, which was confirmed by the "prime minister" Alexander Borodai of the Donetsk People's Republic who appointed him as official Defense Minister.

From a recent post in his TG Channel : https://t.me/strelkovii/2557



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General conclusion:
I must state with regret that the operation to defeat the enemy's Donetsk grouping, widely publicized in late April-early May, FAIL. For more than two weeks of fierce fighting (which cost both sides very heavy losses), only tactical successes were achieved. Not a single large settlement was liberated (the exception is the city of Rubezhnoye, but the battles for it began before the offensive began). Probably, certain tactical successes will still be achieved before the moment when the enemy goes over to the counteroffensive. But it is already clear that Donbass will not be fully liberated before the beginning of summer. Probably, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not even be thrown back from the suburbs of Donetsk.
And I cannot say that this result is unexpected for me. Vice versa. The art of war requires its adherents to strike where the enemy least expects them. In our case, the intention of the Russian command was so obvious, the terrain was so beneficial for the defending side, and the balance of forces was almost equal on both sides, that only ... our General Staff could count on decisive success.
At the moment, our troops are drawn into exhausting offensive battles, continuing (as I have already noted) "to play by the rules proposed by the enemy." And the point is not only and not so much in individual examples of "outstanding bungling" (such as forcing S. Donets), but in the fact that losses incurred in daily offensive battles (not ending in the defeat of the enemy) cannot be quickly compensated by trained replacements. While the enemy continues to frantically prepare its strategic reserves. And where he will deliver his blows, when our troops finally "run out of steam" - no one knows (although this can also be predicted, but I will not do this publicly ... until I do).

What should be done in the current situation, when it became CLEAR THAT OUR TROOPS CANNOT DEAL EVEN LIMITED DAMAGE TO THE ENEMY IN A FIELD BATTLE, and when it is NECESSARY TO PREPARE FOR A PROTRACTED HEAVY LARGE-SCALE WAR - I have written and said more than once. So far, only "a good friend of all Urgants" has responded and stated that nothing of this will be done ... Well, well ...


Anyone that doesn't see what a disaster this has been for Russia is delusional.  

The Russian Military and Putins puppets are so unorganized and corrupt that even the pro Russia Seperatists are getting fed up:

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Frictions between Russian occupation administrations and pro-Russian collaborators is growing in occupied areas of Ukraine. The Zaporizhia Oblast Military Administration reported that Russian forces are having serious conflicts with collaborators due to interpersonal power conflicts.[4] A well-known collaborator in Zaporizhia accused the Russian-installed governor of the area of stealing his 10,000 ruble compensation. Advisor to the Mayor of Mariupol Petro Andryshchenko additionally claimed that relatives of those mobilized into the forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) are holding a mass protest against mobilization in Donetsk City. While ISW cannot independently verify these claims, such discontent amongst occupation elements suggests a general lack of planning by Russian authorities in occupied areas, now compounded by increasingly evident Russian losses.

ISW RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, MAY 16

How embarrassing.




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The good news for you inhuman scum: you won't need the subtitles.
The bad news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ur7uv9/brutal_honesty_retired_russian_colonel_and/

Face it. Pride doesn't make scum more shiny. Putin's Russia will bite its teeth out on the Ukraine assault. After that, the country will be ruined. Happy North Korea Version 2.0  Tongue
I feel sorry for all the truly good people that didn't make it out of Russia yet, even if they are few. Most others are misled. Like you, poor puppy. Go get a bone...
Wet fantasies about lend-lease and about a million recruits in the tenth wave of mobilization? Freshly. Grin

Why are you still not on the eastern front?

LoL
Nice try, troll. I'm too valuable on another kind of front. Better keep doing what i ecxel at, unlinke drunk RA mobilized civilians of the "eastern front".
I quoted and highlighted this, because with that wording you are admitting, once again, that the "special military operation" is in fact war.

While Putin wanted to fight, UA has to fight. He wants to fight so much, that he's coordinating bataillions himself with his failing general of choice (what was his name already?). He should let the army professionals do their job, but no... This reveals overburdening. Putin is losing not only his mind, but also (t)his war. He should fight on the "political front" to not get Russia completely isolated. Instead he shows his emperor-complex. He went insane. Do you think two years of fear-of-covid self-isolation contributed to his sanity? If so, you're delusional.

EDIT: Just look at him. He's almost finished. Just wait for it.
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The good news for you inhuman scum: you won't need the subtitles.
The bad news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ur7uv9/brutal_honesty_retired_russian_colonel_and/

Face it. Pride doesn't make scum more shiny. Putin's Russia will bite its teeth out on the Ukraine assault. After that, the country will be ruined. Happy North Korea Version 2.0  Tongue
I feel sorry for all the truly good people that didn't make it out of Russia yet, even if they are few. Most others are misled. Like you, poor puppy. Go get a bone...
Wet fantasies about lend-lease and about a million recruits in the tenth wave of mobilization? Freshly. Grin

Why are you still not on the eastern front?
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.

Four healthy Nazis of Azov carried each seriously wounded on a stretcher, no one returned to the bunker. I think now the wounded will receive medical care, the healthy will be interrogated, and only then they will decide what to do with them. They surrendered and their fate is now in the hands of the DNR. The end of the myth about the underground thousand, in short.

Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.

The good news for you inhuman scum: you won't need the subtitles.
The bad news: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/ur7uv9/brutal_honesty_retired_russian_colonel_and/

Face it. Pride doesn't make scum more shiny. Putin's Russia will bite its teeth out on the Ukraine assault. After that, the country will be ruined. Happy North Korea Version 2.0  Tongue
I feel sorry for all the truly good people that didn't make it out of Russia yet, even if they are few. Most others are misled. Like you, poor puppy. Go get a bone...
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.

Four healthy Nazis of Azov carried each seriously wounded on a stretcher, no one returned to the bunker. I think now the wounded will receive medical care, the healthy will be interrogated, and only then they will decide what to do with them. They surrendered and their fate is now in the hands of the DNR. The end of the myth about the underground thousand, in short.

Source?
The original source was Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR. The information seems to be confirmed, although not in full in terms of numbers.
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It seems that, according to some users here, US army colonel Douglas Macgregor, who talks about a possible takeover of western Ukraine by Poland, is also a Russian propagandist.
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May 10, 2022
Unconfirmed reports from Warsaw indicate that after Washington rejected the proposals for a no-fly zone over Ukraine,
along with the transfer of Polish MIG-29 aircrafts to Ukrainian pilots,
the Polish general staff was quietly instructed to formulate plans for
intervention in the Ukrainian conflict by seizing the western part of Ukraine.
Naturally, military action of this scale would require Kiev’s approval,
but given Washington’s de facto control of the Zelensky government,
approval for Polish military intervention should not be a problem.

Yes, the retired U.S. Army Colonel, author, consultant, and television commentator Douglas Macgregor is a Russian propagandist.  There are tons of Americans spreading Russian propaganda in the American press.  There are about 5,000 colonels on active duty in the US Army at any given time, by the way, and this guy retired from the Military almost 20 years ago.  Come back when someone credible (that means no right wing pundits) brings up the topic.

Have you gone into full on deny everything with nonsense mode and see if anything sticks a little, and then just focus on that and pretend like none of the other nonsense ever happened?
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Or they will break the exchange agreement

Unfortunately that's a very real risk, considering that they're already talking about "interrogation". Clearly Russian side doesn't care about their own (POWs on Ukrainian side) either, otherwise they'd have done this exchange immediately.
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Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

They're swapping the wounded ones. It makes sense for Russians to keep them alive so not sure what you're getting at.

On May 16, 53 seriously injured people were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk for medical care. Another 211 people were taken to Olenivka through the humanitarian corridor. An exchange procedure will be carried out to return them home.
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UK soldiers in Azovstal. EU Gas-for-EUROS lie. Romania Eurovision vote rigged. (Alex Christoforou)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2uIm4CSzas




Bruh... since when do you care for what is possibly the gayest thing in your "Gayrope"?

Or are you trying to shed any doubt about the support that Ukraine has in Europe? You will fail spectacularly.

 Are you aware that there are no refugee camps for Ukrainians in Europe? We are talking millions of people being accepted into private homes - I have never seen people so keen on accepting those who fly war.

Shit happens....
It seems that progress has finally been made with Azovstal. Right now, a silence regime has been declared and an agreement has been reached on the surrender of 650 wounded Azov fighters to the DPR. No extraction, surrender.

Source? ... bah, why do I bother. Is that from the Russian Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales?
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It seems that progress has finally been made with Azovstal. Right now, a silence regime has been declared and an agreement has been reached on the surrender of 650 wounded Azov fighters to the DPR. No extraction, surrender.

They have been swapped with Russian prisoners of war. Great victory for the glorious Russian military, who can't defeat even injured Ukrainians after 3 months of bombing.

Looks like it is people with 'Z's giving the wounded Azov people(?) the medical help they badly need.  Are you saying that (the shrinking) Ukraine is only swapping healthy Azov 'defenders' and leaving the sick and wounded to the care of Russia/Donesk?

Whatever the case, if the Ukrainians had not murdered the Russian POW's and put the eye-stabbings and whatever on social media for the enjoyment of their cretin fan-bois (e.g., you) then they might have more POW's to use as trading stock.

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Here is statement from Azov commander Denis Prokopenko:
https://t.me/KyivIndependent_official/4401
Zelensky is going to make statement about Azovstal today.
You call a "democratically elected government" what was elected five years after the anti-constitutional coup in Kyiv in 2014 (Euromaidan), when 1 million protesters decided for 45 million Ukrainians how they should live, without holding a general vote. Protests against the illegal coup were brutally suppressed in Mariupol and Odessa in 2014. Acting President of Ukraine Aleksandr Turchynov initiated an anti-terrorist operation (ATO) against the DPR and LPR, and under this sauce the Kyiv authorities bombed their own population for several years, as a result of which 14,000 people died, including more than a hundred children. Residents of the republics unrecognized by Kyiv at first didn't want to separate from Ukraine at all, they just wanted to remain part of the country, but to be given the opportunity to speak and teach children in Russian. But after the brutal treatment of the people of Donbass by the Ukrainian government, they now perceive it as a sworn enemy. Euromaidan in Kyiv is as if Trump supporters in 2021 managed to carry out a coup d'état by capturing the Capitol, and then they would call their government democratic.
Considering Ukraine a democratic state is at least naive.
Under President Petr Poroshenko (2014-2019), the Prosecutor General of Ukraine was thrown out of office in exchange for $1 billion when his personality didn't suit the American government (read - Biden). This is direct proof that Ukraine is just a US puppet.
Zelenskiy is now banning opposition parties in Ukraine and, in fact, only one state-owned TV channel operates there.
In March, a member of the first Ukrainian negotiating delegation, Denis Kireev, was shot dead in Kyiv by SBU officers because he could support Russia. In April, Zelensky took hostage the head of an opposition party, Ukrainian citizen Medvedchuk, and wanted to exchange him for captured Ukrainian soldiers. I don't remember something like that in the history of democratic states, so that their citizens were forcibly captured, in order to be later exchanged for other soldiers of their own.
In Ukraine, they even publicly kidnap priests.
In the so-called democratic Ukraine, citizens *suspected of theft* - instead of taking them to the police - are tied to poles, doused with green paint, take off their pants and beaten. Is this the standard of democracy to which we should strive?
And Western propaganda is at least no better than Russian propaganda. German journalists deleted video with uncomfortable eyewitness testimony from Mariupol. The Spanish TV channel deliberately did not insert subtitles with a translation about how the Azov people threatened to kill civilians. The English "journalist" abruptly interrupted the broadcast when he had nothing to object to the Russian diplomat. The Italian magazine La Stampa published a photo from Donetsk, which was hit by a Ukrainian rocket for a photo from Kyiv. There are many more examples of how people in Western countries are being brainwashed.
You posted lot of shot and how surprising everything goes from perspective of pro-Russian narrative. And I'm not sure how seriously I can react when you're using some random Russian telegram with Z letter or Maria Zakharova as source. Ok, I'll try to answer some of your statements.
Maidan isn't first similar revolution. Orange revolution happened decade ago before Maidan. But you don't call it anticonstitutional because it doesn't probably fits your narrative.
ATO goal is regaining occupied territories and bring it back to control of Ukraine. You want to tell that intention of it  is bombing and killing civilians. And like Russia would be completely not responsible for these deaths.
They're not banning oposition parties, they banned parties which have open pro-Russian views. And it happened only when full scale war begin. I think this move is completely understandable.
One state owned channel in Ukraine is big lie. "United news" is union of private and state owned TV channels. Here is more detailed article about it:
https://www.liga.net/politics/articles/uarazom-no-bez-poroshenko-kak-ustroen-telemarafon-i-kto-ego-kuriruet-ot-zelenskogo
And many channels aren't involved in it, including 5th Channels which belong to Poroshenko.
Here is official statement about Kireev:
https://gur.gov.ua/content/ukraina-vtratyla-svoikh-viddanykh-syniv.html
As said there, he and two other officers die while completing task. Articles about Kireev getting killed by SBU officers is
nothing more than rumour.
Medvedchuk hostage? C'mon. He was under home arrest, then ran away and was arrested. And like Russia didn't kidnapped any local politics of occupied territories, for example mayor of Melitopol. Exchsnge Medvedchuk for captured Ukrainians, I don't think it was bad offer.
These marauders tied to poles, it was first days of war when Ukraine was under big chaos. Suspected of theft or getting caught? And  it's not just thefts, it's help for occupants, like making white marks for Russian rockets.

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It seems that progress has finally been made with Azovstal. Right now, a silence regime has been declared and an agreement has been reached on the surrender of 650 wounded Azov fighters to the DPR. No extraction, surrender.

They have been swapped with Russian prisoners of war. Great victory for the glorious Russian military, who can't defeat even injured Ukrainians after 3 months of bombing.
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@Tash, you seem very keen on publishing the barbaric uses of Putin's army and how they are going to "tattoo check". You are aware that these thing go back right? Retaliation is a bitch uh?

It's the Ukrainian people tell how it is, the own army is shooting them
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JusrVUx4nSG8/

Watch lip synchronicity, listen to background/ambience sounds. With the first person in the interview, the audio is on track with lip movements, also the dynamics are very "live" sounding to my experienced ear. As the interviewer switches over to the second person, it all changes. Lip synchronicity goes to hell with audio.
Pretty sure this is swapped speech and background audio.

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Why Did Lloyd Austin Call Sergei Shoigu?  ( Lira Gonzalo )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwjb7_sxVUU

UK soldiers in Azovstal. EU Gas-for-EUROS lie. Romania Eurovision vote rigged. (Alex Christoforou)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2uIm4CSzas

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Shit happens....
It seems that progress has finally been made with Azovstal. Right now, a silence regime has been declared and an agreement has been reached on the surrender of 650 wounded Azov fighters to the DPR. No extraction, surrender.
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