Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 299. (Read 60618 times)

I'm curious what data for death toll you are using? If you are using stats given by Russian propaganda, then nothing surprising that you're saying that losses of Ukrainian army exceeds victims of Russian army. According to Russia, they have lost 1351 troops in this war what is nothing more than cynical lie. Ok, let's say that numbers given by Ukraine is not correct, but still, USA report about over 10 000 deaths and numbers given by NATO is very estimate, from 7000 to 15 000. Russia claiming that they have killed 14 000 Ukrainians, but nobody eles don't report about such big numbers.
And what you will tell about report which says that Ukraine now have more tanks than they had before war, after they have captured over 100 tanks from Russia?

Why do Russians see Nazis everywhere? Before going to sleep maybe you're checking under your bed to be sure that nazi isn't hiding? Not allowing athletes to participate just because that they're Russian isn't discrimination. It's collective reposnisbility. They're not directly responsible for war in Ukraine, but Russian citizens should respond for actions of their elected president, which was elected by majority of votes.
Maybe these things in Europe can be called Russophobia, but what else do you expect? That Russians will be liked and welocomed with a joy?

@be.open, seems like you "brotherhood" idea is not clearly understood by your Ukrainian brother here. You need to explain him that he must forget the fact that Putin has shelled their cities, killed children is still starving people in Mariupol and consider that as "simply ideological differences" and become one nation under Tzar Putin.

hint: It may take a while convincing them, be ready for some resistance.

Asking Mariupol Residents About Russian Attacks On Civilian areas
https://youtu.be/rLZ2ZzoD-W0

I am still amazed at the inhumanity of the scum that fuels the fire in this thread. Despite this, I want to note that this video perfectly demonstrates how the "Russian liberators" deal with the Kherson protesters, footage that should sober up any sane person, (be sure to turn on the sound).

• https://imgur.com/XWoSGHi

In addition, my cousine has 9 children in the family (the one who currently emigrated to Poland with a small child), and she is the eldest daughter. Three of her sisters are now in Kyiv and three more live in Mariupol. So I don’t need to tell about good intentions after one of my sister’s sisters with her children sat in the basement for a week and gave the children water from a puddle. I can’t believe that I am writing this, as it would seem that now is the 21st century ... but I still get goosebumps when you realize that at such moments, neither a good car, nor having an apartment or money plays any role. Now that humanitarian corridors have been launched, the situation is still difficult, since this girl and her two young children were forcibly taken to Russia, and I understand why she agreed. Since there is nothing even to discuss when there is a choice between the life of children and their own freedom.

More from the liberators. They got drunk, took a woman's car keys and crashed the car right outside her house, shot her dog, then they shot her husband, raped her, went to get drunk, came back, raped her again, went to get drunk again, came back, raped her again and fell asleep. Such liberation, so much nazis, wow!
Makes me wonder why she did not slit throats of those two liberators. I guess she's not much of a nazi after all. Even seeing her husband murdered in front of her couldn't make her do anything violent.

https://inews.co.uk/news/ukrainian-woman-says-russian-troops-raped-her-1544863

Mariupol  liberated from the Azov Nazis.
https://youtu.be/C-irWniGBEU

We are just starting to learn more about the atrocities that the Russian invaders committed on the occupied territories as the Ukrainian army is liberating them.

They leveled the villages and towns, looked for and killed the remaining residents, robbed what they could, and moved on.

Few people hid in cellars and stayed there for weeks, and survived.

This is Russian 'military' for you. They are good at shooting at targets that don't shoot back.

Pinpoint precision my ass. They are a horde of Mongols. I hope Ukrainians will find and kill every single Russian soldier, and pro-Russian gang member they can find on the territory of Ukraine.

Make them pay.

I love Tchaikovsky, Dostoyevski and Chinghiz Aitmatov (not Russian, but writes in Russian) and many other manifestations of the Russian culture, and I am against prohibiting any non-violent and non-politically loaded cultural manifestation (ballet qualifies, for avoidance of doubt). I just see that Putin is unfit to rule and is damaging Russia's people and interests.

Now that I am thinking... Do not "Crime and Punishment" by  Dostoyevski speak of crime and punishment? Do you think Putin read it?

On the fake "support", do you think these 13.6 Billion USD are just to buy bandages and helmets?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/11/us-congress-gives-final-approval-to-13-6b-ukraine-aid-budget

Just to put it into perspective, the best-class tanks cost around 4 million. This helps equates to 3400 state-of-the-art tanks. You can pretend a fist is fake, until it hits you in the nose.

You see, Putin has now pushed Ukraine into accepting US aid. I cannot see the "master strategy" on this.

Clown world
https://youtu.be/Z5wzk6TBY3M
Politicians are the lowest of the low lives.

That's what I'm saying, instead of massive aerial bombardments of cities and fortified areas, there are pinpoint missile strikes on outbreaks of military activity. Let me remind you that the United States bombed Iraq for 37 days before launching a ground operation, and Iraq is half the size of Ukraine and there are deserts there. Russia is acting much more humanely towards the civilian population. Ukraine is heterogeneous in composition, in the East there are many Russian-speaking people who have been living under shelling from the Armed Forces of Ukraine for eight years, for example, as residents of Donetsk. Refugees from Mariupol to Russian territory talk about the atrocities of the Azov Nazis who shoot and kill civilians.

I think this is one of the fakes of Ukrainian propaganda, saying that the West will help. The disposal of illiquid weapons is no more difficult than one person can lift - this is the maximum of this help from the West, a rocket from the sky will immediately fly into something larger. Nothing oversized and nothing in large batches. No ships, no planes, no helicopters, no artillery, no tanks, no anti-aircraft missile systems, only hand-held anti-tank systems and a few drones.

I'm talking about the manifestations of Kansel culture, when the names of great Russian writers, composers and artists are deleted from the list of the treasury of world culture, when athletes are discriminated against on a national basis and not allowed to compete in sports, when Russians are hounded just because they are Russian - about manifestations of Nazism in modern Europe.

The Russian army pushed the Ukrainian army back at least 100 km inland from the border with Russia to prevent Ukrainian rockets and cannons from firing at Russia, and then stopped in advance to reduce personnel losses. The army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is blocked in the Donbass and in the vicinity of Kyiv, and in the vicinity of Nikolaev - from the north, east and south, but the entire territory of Ukraine, including the western one, is being shot through with missiles.

We'll see.

In your fantasy world Hitler would receive standing ovations as well. Sick world it is if war criminals receive standing ovations around the world.

Everyone knew that the Ukrainian army would suffer much casualties. But Russia's  disposition or belief was that Ukraine would fall in days. They made the world feel that they had the military might to overrun Ukraine easily. Now people are surprise that the 'little' Ukraine is giving the 'almighty' Russia a bloody nose. Hence, even if Ukrainian loss is hundred times higher than Russia,  Zelensky would still receive standing ovations around the world.

You are trying to compare civilian casualties with military casualties?  So you are saying that Putin is not killing "as much as he could" because Ukrainians are your brothers? It is the same when you said that Ukrainians will forget all this and be brothers ...man!... that is so pyscho! Are you a sociopath or did you use some "recommended answers" from your controllers (which I am sure are sociopaths)?

During the conflict the military of Ukraine has received and keeps on receiving billions in weapons aid which is making it stronger than ever. At this point something should be clear even for Putin: US and Europe are not going to let Ukraine fall. If planes are needed, there will be planes, if tanks are needed, there will be tanks, if more intelligence is needed it will be provided.

RE Russophobia - please, this is for all Russians, Europe is not an enemy of the Russian people. We want to trade and have a pacific relationship and we are sorry that your current leader is sending your young to die by the thousands when there is absolutely no need for it nor anything to gain for you.

As said: Putin's army has no real capability to hold long supply lines. Ukraine has delivered a few counter strikes and holds several strategic points. From "we want to depose the government" is now becoming "we want the south ports" and will eventually become "err... well, sorry, we were just passing by". To late for many.

RE Energy, it seems that Putin is backing up on the senseless plan of payments in roubles - who knows, he may some day decide that this whole war was not a great idea after all. Late for many.

When you wish to be dead

The accuracy of Russian missiles is less than one meter. The main work on the destruction of military facilities in Ukraine is carried out by Caliber missiles and X-101 cruise missiles. Their range is sufficient for confident coverage of the entire territory of Ukraine, the power is also sufficient (400-450 kg in TNT equivalent). These missiles are unattainable for the missile defense of Ukraine and Ukraine has no analogues.

During the month of the operation, the military potential of Ukraine was significantly weakened. The eastern group in the Donbass is at risk of falling into the cauldron, Ukraine has not delivered a single serious counter-strike.

The losses of the personnel of the Russian army exceed the losses of the civilian population of Ukraine - a consequence of the tactics chosen by Putin to minimize damage to the fraternal people of Ukraine. The losses of Ukrainian soldiers are ten times greater than the losses of Russian soldiers - and soon Ukrainian propaganda will no longer be able to hide it. The Ukrainian army is suffering serious losses in personal strength and dramatic losses in military equipment, which the West can replace with a maximum of Javelins. Tanks, planes, helicopters, ships, air defense missiles, Tochka-U missiles, etc., Ukraine's losses in heavy equipment are great and irreplaceable. Soon the regular army will turn into gangs of Nazis with Kalashnikovs.

The journalists made a loud headline, relying on the words of the press secretary, although in this situation it is better to focus on Putin's words and look at the market reaction. I think Putin will give Europe a chance to save its face, just then Europe will pay even more for Russian gas.  

Please do not project your Ukrainian nationalist complexes onto Russia. Russia has its place in the world and this place is not small. Cultivating Russophobia is a losing strategy for the European Union, and for anyone else. Russia has a lot of natural resources and a large surplus of energy, which the European Union needs to have a powerful and competitive industry. Without industry, Europe will turn into a reservation of refugees and the unemployed, with a great cultural heritage and interesting for lovers of extreme tourism.

It looks like the West is ready to fight in Ukraine with Russia to the last Ukrainian, and even in the US Congress they put on badges with the Ukrainian flag as a sign of support. The army of Ukraine is currently completely paralyzed and shackled by the Russian army, deprived of the possibility of regrouping and changing its location, delivery of ammunition and fuel is difficult - in response to any movement of military equipment, a rocket immediately flies from the sky and there is no more military equipment. The military are locked in their fortified positions and in cities with civilians, from the point of view of military science, this campaign for Ukraine has already been lost, although of course it was lost from the very beginning. Reliable for blitzkrieg - naive fantasies, what the Russian army did in a month is a real result.

By the way, yesterday there was a episode when Russia returned captive soldiers from Snake Island to Ukraine. The very ones that Ukrainian propaganda has already declared heroically dead and awarded them with orders posthumously. Now they are alive and they were solemnly presented with well-deserved awards for their heroic deed on Snake Island to repel Russian aggression. Against the backdrop of the recently released videos of torture and executions of Russian captured soldiers by Ukrainians, this looked very amusing.

More than 5000 Ukrainian troops were sent to Iraq to help the U.S with its invasion, now unless those troops went there to get a tan (the sunlight in Iraq is pretty strong) -- your statement is false.

From what I hear (mainly info/hypotheses from Scott Ritter in this case) Russia was pretty careful to honor the letter and spirit of existing contracts, and why would they not?  There are plenty of things for which contracts are not drawn to get going on the Ruble (and hopefully BTC) stuff.  If Germany cannot or will not honor their side of the contracts because they feel the need to kowtow(*) to Washington, oh well (shrug).

Russia seems to be playing the 'reliable partner' angle recently (last decade or so.)  In other words they, as a matter of policy, do what they say, say what they do (if they say anything at all), and don't make up shit out of whole cloth.  If one wants to have a trusted currency, best to neither make it non-fungible or inflate it to worthlessness.  If you are going to do that [cough, 'U.S.', cough] you better be damn sure that you've got enough leg-breakers to force most/all players into your racket.  I don't think they do.  Not anymore.

I do hope that the U.S. and Western minions stick to their guns AND that Russia is serious about BTC.  Huge opportunities to broker/supply liquidity for transactions since things like fertilizer will be dirt cheap in Russia even while the West is in the famine-zone and the products are in high demand.

* Kowtow - 'To show servile deference.'

If they break the terms of existing contracts, nobody would want to sign any contracts with Russia, ever again.

Even Soviet barbarians do understand that.

Besides this was just a power play for domestic media consumption.

There was no economic benefit to be paid in Rubles, actually a small loss due to spread in the exchange rate.

If nothing will change, in the next couple of years, Russia will be fucked royally as the West stops buying raw materials from Russia and stops
selling finished products to Russia.

Russians have one big problem.  They think their nation, their culture, and their country are better than any other country.

The sad reality is that their economy is the size of Texas, and their GDP per capita (10K) is less than half of that of tiny Estonia (23K).

Russia is one of the poorest countries in continental Europe.

Talk about mismanagement, lol.

It seems that, on the pissing contest, Germany's got a bigger one this time. Changing unilaterally a contract would send a message difficult to recall to the markets, which in the end are based on reputation (as I said in a few posts).

However there is a chance that Russia may actually implement this on future contracts. One of the reasons why the USD can print money with such generosity is that it is backed by crude, since most contracts around the world request a payment in USD. If Russia decides to change that on their oil and gas contracts, which may be a distinct possibility in the future, it may reinforce the rouble and make it more stable.

Russia is now walking back their statements on demanding rubles for oil exports to countries they deem "unfriendly."

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-will-not-demand-immediate-switch-gas-payments-roubles-kremlin-2022-03-30/

Appears they understand they cannot further restrict their economy when it's already on the decline. IMO Russia understands the war is a lost cause and they have no way to circumvent the sanctions, so they have to play the game that the West wants them to play. Using China and India as trading partners can only support Russia's economy to a certain extent. Being isolated from the West has ramifications. There were also some reports that Putin's military generals are downplaying the status of the war and the severity of Russian troop losses because they don't want to be the bearer of bad news. Putin is losing control of his economy and his military.