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legendary
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As incredible as it may seem, Ruzzia has burned through more than 85% of the Soviet era tank arsenals. The newer T-90 are an absolute rarity in the field, all the rests ranging from a T-50 to a T-72 open field storages have shrunk progressively to 1/8 or in some location to 1/10th.

The scale of the losses is unheard of. We are talking thousand of tanks, IFVs and BMPs. This is the definition of a successful demilitarization that Putin intended but, instead of Ukraine, or Ruzzia.

Is like, you know, like if someone had a plan?

https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/occasional-papers/methodology-degrading-arms-russian-federation
legendary
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Russia is joining the world regarding Sustainable Development. This means that it is adopting some of the BS that the world is accepting as methods to replenish nature while raping her. Some of this development is to accept Ukrainian operations without harming Ukraine. It is a form of adopting Ukraine and Nato goals into it's operations with the world.

Sounds a little crazy, doesn't it?


Is Russia becoming TOO sustainable? - https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/is-russia-becoming-too-sustainable


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legendary
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Again, fascinated by the technology, failing to see what this is. Years and years of widespread army propaganda create this type of behaviour.

Interesting news from the Kherson front, it seems that the Ukrainian army is recovering the recently invaded area that Ruzzia was able to capture on the first push. I am starting to doubt at this point if they are keeping specifically Ruzzia pushing and wasting the meatweaves in this area just to allow their "self-demilitarisation".

Adding: There has been a hit on an oil terminal in Rostov. drones work better than sanctions. Also, commercial planes are having more and more issues as the spare parts and support from Boeing are not forthcoming. It will get worse.
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White Russian
You are engaged in slander and unfounded accusations. You have no evidence that the rocket that fell near the children's hospital was Russian. Moreover, not a single child died as a result of this incident. And even more ridiculous are your accusations against me personally, based on an emoticon. Be ashamed, your level of discussion is like that of homo erectus.

There is no evidence only for those who did it, all other evidence clearly indicates that it is a Russian missile - but you do not admit anything that has not been published by one of your own. I have nothing to be ashamed of, you and most of your people have hands stained with the blood of thousands of innocent people who you don't even treat as human beings.

Here is one of your supporters of the war writing what you think, and you don't have the balls to write it.
This is not my supporter of war, I don’t even know who he is. There are radical scumbags on both sides, I do not support fanatics regardless of the color of their flag.

Ukraine recently requested a UN Security Council meeting on this issue and was heard. She was unable to provide convincing evidence that Russia did this. Moreover, Russia’s version of the AIM-120 anti-aircraft missile of the NASAMS anti-aircraft complex looks more plausible. So shove your unfounded accusations up your ass. Just above there is a video of an eyewitness from Kyiv, in which six Russian X-101 missiles flew from different directions within 30 seconds and hit almost the same point at the Artyom military plant. The version that the seventh missile deviated from the target by 1.5 km and missed the children's hospital looks pale and unconvincing. If it had really been a Russian missile, it would have hit its target and all the children would have been dead. And so all the children survived, but the façade of the children's hospital was damaged by shrapnel. The warheads of anti-aircraft missiles are loaded with shrapnel. Think about it at your leisure.

The purpose of this massive missile attack was to show that even several Patriot divisions would not protect even one city of Kyiv, even from cruise missiles (which, unlike ballistics and hypersound, are relatively easy to intercept). Simply because only 500 Patriot anti-aircraft missiles are produced per year and this is several times less than Russia produces missiles. Ukraine can ask the West for ten more Patriot divisions; they will have nothing to shoot with. It seems they have nothing to shoot with right now.
legendary
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You are engaged in slander and unfounded accusations. You have no evidence that the rocket that fell near the children's hospital was Russian. Moreover, not a single child died as a result of this incident. And even more ridiculous are your accusations against me personally, based on an emoticon. Be ashamed, your level of discussion is like that of homo erectus.

There is no evidence only for those who did it, all other evidence clearly indicates that it is a Russian missile - but you do not admit anything that has not been published by one of your own. I have nothing to be ashamed of, you and most of your people have hands stained with the blood of thousands of innocent people who you don't even treat as human beings.

Here is one of your supporters of the war writing what you think, and you don't have the balls to write it.

sr. member
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Are you sure you weren't brainwashed? Grin
~snip~

I'm not, because I don't live in a country that censors the internet - and I also don't use smileys in a thread talking about killing children - that says enough about how brainwashed someone is. Only monsters can kill children in a planned and targeted manner and laugh at it - you are a clear example of an average Russian who would fire a rocket at a children's hospital with a smile on his face.

I doubt such country exists, except those without the means to do it
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White Russian
Are you sure you weren't brainwashed? Grin
~snip~

I'm not, because I don't live in a country that censors the internet - and I also don't use smileys in a thread talking about killing children - that says enough about how brainwashed someone is. Only monsters can kill children in a planned and targeted manner and laugh at it - you are a clear example of an average Russian who would fire a rocket at a children's hospital with a smile on his face.
You are engaged in slander and unfounded accusations. You have no evidence that the rocket that fell near the children's hospital was Russian. Moreover, not a single child died as a result of this incident. And even more ridiculous are your accusations against me personally, based on an emoticon. Be ashamed, your level of discussion is like that of homo erectus.
legendary
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Are you sure you weren't brainwashed? Grin
~snip~

I'm not, because I don't live in a country that censors the internet - and I also don't use smileys in a thread talking about killing children - that says enough about how brainwashed someone is. Only monsters can kill children in a planned and targeted manner and laugh at it - you are a clear example of an average Russian who would fire a rocket at a children's hospital with a smile on his face.
legendary
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There is no doubt about the origin, target nor where the order came from. All this attempt to make it look a false flag are just ridiculous.

It is not the first time, Ruzzia hit a primary school in Kherson and there are videos of "drone practice" in the same are hitting just random civilian vehicles that simply happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. In Kharkov, they have been shelling the city for nearly a month, all civilian sites.

I guess that if I publish here the KH=101 image captured just in the moment of the strike you will start saying that is not real or whatever, so I will not bother, it is out there for anyone interested.

It is a modus operandi and if you resident trolls want to keep supporting Ruzzia at least do not fool yourself into believing that Ruzzia is anything but this type of inhuman grinding machine. Bucha, the strikes on shopping centers, schools,... it is all over Ukraine and have no doubt it will be thoroughly documented for history. It is obviously not the first time because is a system that believes in control by terror.
Any high-intensity military conflict is inhumane in its essence; war is dirt, blood and shit. And any humanitarian mission, if desired, can easily find traces of war crimes, on both sides. But don’t even try to convince me that Russia is intentionally and systematically committing war crimes in Ukraine, because Russia is conducting this special operation with white gloves. This is especially evident against the backdrop of Israel's operation in Gaza.

On the previous page I posted an interesting link that you ignored. It’s about the trial of a Czech mercenary, who fought on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, for looting in Bucha in 2022. Check it out, it’s very informative. If you don't know Czech, use an online translator.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2016/03/syrian-and-russian-forces-targeting-hospitals-as-a-strategy-of-war/

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Syrian and Russian forces targeting hospitals as a strategy of war
Russian and Syrian government forces appear to have deliberately and systematically targeted hospitals and other medical facilities over the last three months to pave the way for ground forces to advance on northern Aleppo, an examination of airstrikes by Amnesty International has found.

Even as Syria’s fragile ceasefire deal was being hammered out, Syrian government forces and their allies intensified their attacks on medical facilities.

Syrian and Russian forces have been deliberately attacking health facilities in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law. But what is truly egregious is that wiping out hospitals appears to have become part of their military strategy,” said Tirana Hassan, Crisis Response Director at Amnesty International.

If you want to talk about Syria, let's do it in the topic about Syria. I know what Russia is doing there and on what basis. And the United States has some serious questions about what they are doing in Syria and on what basis.

Russia also has a military prosecutor’s office and it is now working tirelessly, both in Ukraine and Syria.

I am not talking about Syria, I am talking about how Ruzzia systematically uses attacks in hospitals, schools and civilian infrastructure to create terror, despite all these being classed a war crimes. It is not an "accident", it is not "false flag" and it is not something that has not been done before but rather an Kremlin accepted war doctrine.

It is safe to assume that it will happen again and that is why Ruzzia needs to be contained - I do not dream of Ruzzians ever taking on them to stop this type of systemic psychopathy, you seem to be absolutely enjoying it for what I am reading.

You and the like are so brainwashed that you wouldn't see the truth even if you looked it directly in the eye. Your "good Russians" in white gloves have so far committed crimes that can be characterized as monstrous, because you not only kill children in front of the eyes of the whole world, but also kidnap them and take them to Russia.

You can write fake history as much as you want, but history will remember you as aggressors, destroyers, murderers, rapists and liars. Countless pictures and videos of what remains when your heroes in white gloves destroy everything in front of them are there for the whole world to see what you are doing - in the meantime, you in Russia watch your propaganda creations about how you are liberating Europe from Nazism, and you are no better than the Nazis against which you once fought.
Borrell yesterday at the NATO summit complained that Putin was so successful in brainwashing that in African countries Russia is considered the liberator of Donbass. And that cognitive warfare needs to be waged more effectively, and all the wrong people who disagree with the Ministry of Truth need to be reprogrammed. Are you sure you weren't brainwashed? Grin

Update:

I recommend reading the very informative essay by George Soros, “Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO.” Soros is a brilliant architect of the future, capable of achieving great results with relatively little effort.
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Borrel is right, there are even cartoon videos for kids speaking of Ruzzia as a liberator from the "Western Hienas" and that type of stuff circulating in Africa... and elsewhere but that has been there for year.. It is good that we are aware.

I recommend that you read the Human Rights and the Geneva convention. Not that is going to cause any effect on you, is just FYI.
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White Russian
You and the like are so brainwashed that you wouldn't see the truth even if you looked it directly in the eye. Your "good Russians" in white gloves have so far committed crimes that can be characterized as monstrous, because you not only kill children in front of the eyes of the whole world, but also kidnap them and take them to Russia.

You can write fake history as much as you want, but history will remember you as aggressors, destroyers, murderers, rapists and liars. Countless pictures and videos of what remains when your heroes in white gloves destroy everything in front of them are there for the whole world to see what you are doing - in the meantime, you in Russia watch your propaganda creations about how you are liberating Europe from Nazism, and you are no better than the Nazis against which you once fought.
Borrell yesterday at the NATO summit complained that Putin was so successful in brainwashing that in African countries Russia is considered the liberator of Donbass. And that cognitive warfare needs to be waged more effectively, and all the wrong people who disagree with the Ministry of Truth need to be reprogrammed. Are you sure you weren't brainwashed? Grin

Update:

I recommend reading the very informative essay by George Soros, “Toward a New World Order: The Future of NATO.” Soros is a brilliant architect of the future, capable of achieving great results with relatively little effort.

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Incidentally, the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

It is interesting that already in 1993 Soros foresaw the current war of the collective West against Russia “to the last Ukrainian.”
legendary
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Any high-intensity military conflict is inhumane in its essence; war is dirt, blood and shit. And any humanitarian mission, if desired, can easily find traces of war crimes, on both sides. But don’t even try to convince me that Russia is intentionally and systematically committing war crimes in Ukraine, because Russia is conducting this special operation with white gloves. This is especially evident against the backdrop of Israel's operation in Gaza.
~snip~


You and the like are so brainwashed that you wouldn't see the truth even if you looked it directly in the eye. Your "good Russians" in white gloves have so far committed crimes that can be characterized as monstrous, because you not only kill children in front of the eyes of the whole world, but also kidnap them and take them to Russia.

You can write fake history as much as you want, but history will remember you as aggressors, destroyers, murderers, rapists and liars. Countless pictures and videos of what remains when your heroes in white gloves destroy everything in front of them are there for the whole world to see what you are doing - in the meantime, you in Russia watch your propaganda creations about how you are liberating Europe from Nazism, and you are no better than the Nazis against which you once fought.
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White Russian
There is no doubt about the origin, target nor where the order came from. All this attempt to make it look a false flag are just ridiculous.

It is not the first time, Ruzzia hit a primary school in Kherson and there are videos of "drone practice" in the same are hitting just random civilian vehicles that simply happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. In Kharkov, they have been shelling the city for nearly a month, all civilian sites.

I guess that if I publish here the KH=101 image captured just in the moment of the strike you will start saying that is not real or whatever, so I will not bother, it is out there for anyone interested.

It is a modus operandi and if you resident trolls want to keep supporting Ruzzia at least do not fool yourself into believing that Ruzzia is anything but this type of inhuman grinding machine. Bucha, the strikes on shopping centers, schools,... it is all over Ukraine and have no doubt it will be thoroughly documented for history. It is obviously not the first time because is a system that believes in control by terror.
Any high-intensity military conflict is inhumane in its essence; war is dirt, blood and shit. And any humanitarian mission, if desired, can easily find traces of war crimes, on both sides. But don’t even try to convince me that Russia is intentionally and systematically committing war crimes in Ukraine, because Russia is conducting this special operation with white gloves. This is especially evident against the backdrop of Israel's operation in Gaza.

On the previous page I posted an interesting link that you ignored. It’s about the trial of a Czech mercenary, who fought on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, for looting in Bucha in 2022. Check it out, it’s very informative. If you don't know Czech, use an online translator.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2016/03/syrian-and-russian-forces-targeting-hospitals-as-a-strategy-of-war/

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Syrian and Russian forces targeting hospitals as a strategy of war
Russian and Syrian government forces appear to have deliberately and systematically targeted hospitals and other medical facilities over the last three months to pave the way for ground forces to advance on northern Aleppo, an examination of airstrikes by Amnesty International has found.

Even as Syria’s fragile ceasefire deal was being hammered out, Syrian government forces and their allies intensified their attacks on medical facilities.

Syrian and Russian forces have been deliberately attacking health facilities in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law. But what is truly egregious is that wiping out hospitals appears to have become part of their military strategy,” said Tirana Hassan, Crisis Response Director at Amnesty International.

If you want to talk about Syria, let's do it in the topic about Syria. I know what Russia is doing there and on what basis. And the United States has some serious questions about what they are doing in Syria and on what basis.

Russia also has a military prosecutor’s office and it is now working tirelessly, both in Ukraine and Syria.
legendary
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There is no doubt about the origin, target nor where the order came from. All this attempt to make it look a false flag are just ridiculous.

It is not the first time, Ruzzia hit a primary school in Kherson and there are videos of "drone practice" in the same are hitting just random civilian vehicles that simply happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. In Kharkov, they have been shelling the city for nearly a month, all civilian sites.

I guess that if I publish here the KH=101 image captured just in the moment of the strike you will start saying that is not real or whatever, so I will not bother, it is out there for anyone interested.

It is a modus operandi and if you resident trolls want to keep supporting Ruzzia at least do not fool yourself into believing that Ruzzia is anything but this type of inhuman grinding machine. Bucha, the strikes on shopping centers, schools,... it is all over Ukraine and have no doubt it will be thoroughly documented for history. It is obviously not the first time because is a system that believes in control by terror.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2016/03/syrian-and-russian-forces-targeting-hospitals-as-a-strategy-of-war/

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Syrian and Russian forces targeting hospitals as a strategy of war
Russian and Syrian government forces appear to have deliberately and systematically targeted hospitals and other medical facilities over the last three months to pave the way for ground forces to advance on northern Aleppo, an examination of airstrikes by Amnesty International has found.

Even as Syria’s fragile ceasefire deal was being hammered out, Syrian government forces and their allies intensified their attacks on medical facilities.

Syrian and Russian forces have been deliberately attacking health facilities in flagrant violation of international humanitarian law. But what is truly egregious is that wiping out hospitals appears to have become part of their military strategy,” said Tirana Hassan, Crisis Response Director at Amnesty International.



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Watch the video from my previous message, there are Russian Kh-101 cruise missiles there, with a well-recognized profile. And in the frame from the Ukrainian screenshot, there is probably an air defense missile from the Norwegian NASAMS complex; it looks very similar. The Russian rocket is much more massive, the Norwegian one has a much larger length to width ratio.


The video of the one that hit that hospital seemed to come from a higher altitude with a steeper trajectory than what you would expect from a Kh-101 but it did have the payload required to demolish a building that size whereas one of those Norweigan ones have too small a payload to do that amount of damage they are showing publicly although it is hard to get a decent look at the damage close up to see exactly where it struck. Also there looked to be some fragmentation in one photo I saw on twitter that could allow a counter argument but in countering you would also have to explain how so much damage could be done with a much lesser payload in one of those Norweigan missiles and I think further up on his channel he is making mention to the AIM-120 but didn't translate it to be fair so not 100% sure he was saying it was an AIM-120.

Anyway any claim that the missile was an AIM-120 ignores the jet engine prominently hanging from the empennage of the missile that is a highly visible feature present on the Kh-101, but not on the AIM-120. Also the wings in the mid-section of the missile that hit the hospital are a mismatch for those on an AIM-120. Also the nose of the AIM-120 is much sharper.

At the end of the day only the person at the point of origin knows exactly what hit it but it is unlikely it was something thrown into the mix outside of what came in with the Russian missiles due to it striking alongside other targets nearby at the same time so that would rule out a 3rd option as there has been other types of rumint across the public interwebs. Anyway I ain't no expert on these matters so your guess is as good as mine but my guess is that it just hit the wrong target somehow whether it was knocked off course or there was some miscalculation, miscommunication before it was deployed or some technical issue en route because there would be no incentive to hit a children's hospital due to the level of condemnation it would bring along with providing other pretexts to the opposing side but in war who knows but to date the Russians haven't levelled Ukraine so I am guessing it was an error on their part or a technical issue .



This is the best footage in the public domain I could find https://t.me/Tsaplienko/56581 (For anyone who doesn't want to use app that requires phone number registration just hit context tab to view full telegram users channel)
The Norwegian anti-aircraft missile AIM-120 has a warhead of 20 kg in TNT equivalent, this is quite enough to cut the facade of a building with shrapnel, in fact, this is exactly how anti-aircraft missiles work, which is clearly visible in your video. By the way, none of the children in the hospital died, that is
The damage to the building's façade is extensive but superficial.

The Russian Kh-101 missile has a warhead of 400 kg in TNT equivalent, and the missile itself is about 7 meters long. Everyone has the right to draw their own conclusions. In my opinion, this is another provocation by the Ukrainian Psychological Operations Center, timed to coincide with the anniversary NATO summit. However, the Russian missile attack on Kyiv itself was also timed to coincide with the anniversary NATO summit in order to show the collective West the pointlessness of supplying more and more Patriot divisions to Ukraine, because they cannot even cope with the defense of Kyiv. I think that those six missiles in a row that flew to the Artyom military plant hit absolutely nothing, it was just a show of force. Boring.
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Watch the video from my previous message, there are Russian Kh-101 cruise missiles there, with a well-recognized profile. And in the frame from the Ukrainian screenshot, there is probably an air defense missile from the Norwegian NASAMS complex; it looks very similar. The Russian rocket is much more massive, the Norwegian one has a much larger length to width ratio.


The video of the one that hit that hospital seemed to come from a higher altitude with a steeper trajectory than what you would expect from a Kh-101 but it did have the payload required to demolish a building that size whereas one of those Norweigan ones have too small a payload to do that amount of damage they are showing publicly although it is hard to get a decent look at the damage close up to see exactly where it struck. Also there looked to be some fragmentation in one photo I saw on twitter that could allow a counter argument but in countering you would also have to explain how so much damage could be done with a much lesser payload in one of those Norweigan missiles and I think further up on his channel he is making mention to the AIM-120 but didn't translate it to be fair so not 100% sure he was saying it was an AIM-120.

Anyway any claim that the missile was an AIM-120 ignores the jet engine prominently hanging from the empennage of the missile that is a highly visible feature present on the Kh-101, but not on the AIM-120. Also the wings in the mid-section of the missile that hit the hospital are a mismatch for those on an AIM-120. Also the nose of the AIM-120 is much sharper.

At the end of the day only the person at the point of origin knows exactly what hit it but it is unlikely it was something thrown into the mix outside of what came in with the Russian missiles due to it striking alongside other targets nearby at the same time so that would rule out a 3rd option as there has been other types of rumint across the public interwebs. Anyway I ain't no expert on these matters so your guess is as good as mine but my guess is that it just hit the wrong target somehow whether it was knocked off course or there was some miscalculation, miscommunication before it was deployed or some technical issue en route because there would be no incentive to hit a children's hospital due to the level of condemnation it would bring along with providing other pretexts to the opposing side but in war who knows but to date the Russians haven't levelled Ukraine so I am guessing it was an error on their part or a technical issue .



This is the best footage in the public domain I could find https://t.me/Tsaplienko/56581 (For anyone who doesn't want to use app that requires phone number registration just hit context tab to view full telegram users channel)
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Also, the seizing of Ruzzian assets is a very real possibility despite Saudis making threats to Europe and US.
I think I already said recently that frozen Russian assets are almost impossible to confiscate. And the main reason for this, of course, is not the lack of compelling legal justifications, because the necessary laws, if desired, can be adopted, including those with retroactive force. The main problem is that Europe is afraid as hell of losing the trust of Middle Eastern (and Chinese) investors.

ps Even with the confiscation of proceeds from frozen assets, there are legal problems and political risks, so Euroclear has retained a significant portion of these proceeds to spend on defending against potential lawsuits.
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The more Russia strikes such terrible ones as at a hospital, the more weapons the West will supply to Ukrainians. The Kremlin makes life difficult for itself.

Its almost as if attack was made by those that have such interest (supply west weapons to Ukraine)
But that would be horrible thought, killing your own people for more money and weapons.
I'm sure only RuZZian orks would do such evil act, uSSa is democracy and good guys
legendary
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Maybe the West has 10 times the nukes as Russia. All that means is that the world isn't large enough. We need a bigger world so that West nukes can be displayed appropriately. Meanwhile, Russian nukes will take out what's left of Ukraine before Russia is destroyed.

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The more Russia strikes such terrible ones as at a hospital, the more weapons the West will supply to Ukrainians. The Kremlin makes life difficult for itself.
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You do not have to use telegram to see the links I sent, you can see these in a browser. You have to go to the app for the ones you sent.
I don’t know a simple practical way to distinguish your links from mine, because I have a telegram app installed on my computer and any telegram links, including yours, open in it.
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