Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 60. (Read 73524 times)

Even influential MSM in UK admit its west proxy war in Ukraine...lets give paxmao few more months, I guess:

https://twitter.com/themacrostory/status/1792060655144665581

“Putin & Xi Jinping's show of combined strength, rise of Russian-style policies in Georgia, serve as a timely reminder to Ukraine's allies. Ukraine is a tragedy in itself, but it is also a proxy.
 If the West weakens its resolve, Russia and China will resist more strongly what they called last week "the so-called dual containment of our countries."


meanwhile, support of Ukraine war costs Italy its crown jewels:

https://www.barrons.com/news/buried-in-massive-debt-italy-puts-crown-jewels-up-for-sale-9d7ff176

UK doesn't fare better, it seems

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11454513/Tesco-puts-security-tags-four-pint-cartons-milk-cost-living-crisis-drives-shoplifting.html

Keep that money pouring into corrupt Ukraine

Perhaps you should let Ukraine decide what works for Ukraine and quit the pan-Slavic nationalism that never worked for anyone.

Back to where it hurts: From "Europe will freeze" to "we will just sell gas to China" and finally "Uppps we are broke".
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/gazprom-loss-shows-struggle-fill-eu-gas-sales-gap-with-china-2024-05-13/



https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/1cp4oq0/putins_crown_jewel_forced_into_fire_sale_amid/

It works for you, it just doesn't work for Ukraine...beware of Englishmen even when he gives you gift, as old Balkan proverb says

Yes, western armament "does not work", "it is not useful", Ukraine "cannot damage Ruzzia" and this is "Goebbels out". Next episode, "Stalin was a nice person".

Edited to add:

https://tass.com/world/1747717


(Propaganda of course... this "is not true", the weapons "will not work" or will be "destroyed before they arrive" and "will not be enough". Next episode "Putin is not a fascist".

Nice, you finally recognize it for what it is

There is no news about this war anymore unless Congress will once again need to send money to Zelenski. That's the only time this war will be flashed on TV. They keep praising Ukraine is winning but their lands were taken by Russians which if you are not as updated as getting all the channels that talk about this war, you wouldn't know who is winning.

So far the only confirmed information is that Russia is already taking Kharkiv. If a person thinks independently, this info already tells the Russians are winning.

Sounds like Ukraine is able to hit where it hurts. You can kill 10.000 Ruzzian servicement (which seems to be the case this week), you can destroy as many T-72 as you want... none of that affects Putin nor the elites. They could not care less for how many soldiers die.

But there is something that does hurt: oil and weapons that are not replaceable (e.g. Mig-31, which Ruzzia has lost the capacity to produce) and ships, which are replaceable but takes years and it is costly. This is the right strategy, not something for show.

I know you are far to brainwashed to see beyond you filters but this is no bragging, this is an strategic change in which Ukraine, from having to simply cope with Ruzzian missiles, now can and will hit refineries, oil terminals, ships, airframes and anything in 1500 km from their area of control they feel like hitting.

If you do not see this as a new reality, that is you failing to see, not anyone else's problem.

BTW, I would like to verify the latest claim: Project 266M, a minesweeper ship seems to be now a seafood habitat. Along with the crew.



There seems to be fires still or maybe new? burning in Novorossiysk...
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:24hrs;l:fires_all,topo;@37.84,44.73,11.29z

Just a few million. Nothing big. Putin will not care about the crew, but might care about the Black Sea feet shrinking, one ship after another.

It seems that the troops on which a French "Hammer" bomb "did not work" on Kadyrov's troops in the abandoned hospital mentioned in my previous post. Tens of them have been killed by the Ukrainian aviation "not being able to fly" and the western supplies "not working".

 "Goebbels out".

I don't know but from what I see in world news no one cares more that much about this war and this has passed in 2nd page,in the front page of the news now there is Israeli war against Palestine which many claims they are bypassing every single limit in what is a war of defense,many are protesting yet the Israelis claims they have the right to defend the attack that happened in the 7 October and for many they are also right.I am neutral in such war but what I want to emphasize is that most people in the world now are more interested as what Israeli backed by US is doing rather than having again interest in a war longer than 2 years now in Ukraine which we don't know how will end.The world is becoming a very vomiting place as these wars has a clear intention both of them,ethnic cleansing and land claiming.

Sounds like Goebbels bragging about damage V2s caused to London

Ukraine was able to do some damage, that means something right? But as everyone understands in a war what's important is if damaged caused is more than damage received (multiplied by difference in resources). Which you conveniently leave out from all of your posts. Even if Kyiv was completely surrounded and on it's last leg, coverage of some ATACMS blowing something up in Russia with pretty satellite pictures would be all you need to continue to push women and younger blood to the font lines. After all, it's either they'll die now or they'll die fighting for Putin later, you'd like that to be their only options right? And I think we can all see what you'd prefer    

As far as 30km of Moscow now somehow being a meaningful chunk of Ukrainian land Russia has taken, i'm just hoping it's a language thing for you and you haven't gone completely mad from the recent events on the front line.

I am not sure there were no casualties, that is nearly impossible to verify.

Now, 18/may/2023, there is some evidence of another wave of successful (or "repelled" according to Ruzzia) ATACAMS and drone attacks in Sebastopol and other parts of the territory controlled by Putin. Seems like Ukraine is being very effective in combining the expensive ATACAMS with the relatively inexpensive low-tech solutions created in Ukraine to maximum effect.

The front in Kharkiv seems quite stable as the mechanised means and waves of Ruzzia have more difficult logistics and the Ruzzians do not try much in the form of advance in the donbas area. I will try to find some videos of todays events.

Edit: Oh... recent news, it seems that the glide bombs, that "do not work" have just "not worked" on a large building (previously a hospital) that the Ruzzians took in the Kharkiv region. Three glide bombs impacted, building (and Ruzzian soldiers inside) are no more.

https://t.me/operinform/22921

But it is fine for some Ruzzis... they get new TVs

https://t.me/rozvidka_noem/8675

It was either carefully planned or it was a miracle there were no casualties during this attack, to be honest. Here in my country I have witnessed accidents which were derived from gas leaks and explosions at refineries and it is truly like opening a gate to hell. Those fortunate ones are immediately taken by the flames and the most unfortunate ones are left alive with scars out of comprehension. Whatever... I assume the attack as labeled as a failure because the Russian assume the objective of Kiev was to maximize casualties, instead burning that fuel and destroying infrastructure in the Russian side.
Russia will always have fuel to extract and refinez but recovering infrastructure is quite a different task to carry out. Takes more time and resources.

Not only the people, but the military is turning against Zelensky. Some were in favor of Zelensky from the beginning, but it only shows the depraved mindset even of honest, simple citizens. https://yandex.com/search/?text=ukrainians+against+zelensky&lr=21121

An older report, below. Things have only gotten worse for Zelensky.


Ukrainian soldiers against Zelensky: “We will hang you in Kiev!”

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https://stateofthenation.co/?p=149832
Developments on the Bakhmut front are fast-paced as Russian forces break through the defense lines of the now-depleted 93rd Brigade and the Ukrainian 71st Brigade and enter the town. Street fighting has broken out in the urban center of Bakhmut for the first time since the start of the war.In more detail, in the last 48 hours the Russian troops and mainly the Wagner forces have launched a large-scale attack as a result of which they occupied the Sinyat factory and entered the first blocks of the urban center of Bakhmut from the east.
In addition, Russian forces have also entered the forest area adjacent to the city, resulting in clashes with Ukrainian forces.The demarcation line, along which Russian troops now control the city, runs along Dobrolyubov Street (first map).

The situation is hopeless for Ukrainians. The hospitals are full and there are hundreds of dead and wounded.In the first video, Ukrainian soldiers, through cries of despair, desperately ask for help over the radio as they are wounded and trapped.In the rest of the videos, Ukrainian soldiers threaten Zelensky with hanging in the center of Kiev!Under the weight of the collapse, the Ukrainians were forced to blow up a bridge connecting Bakhmut with Slavyansk. The blast took place on the M-03 highway of Bakhmut (Artemovsk).Watch video

Ukrainian soldier:“I have hernias. I was lying on the ground for two days, in the trenches under the trees.They are terrifying. It’s very cold outside, it’s freezing.It only gets hot when they start shooting at us. They do not stop. They are Wagner forces.For now we are holding out and holding our positions”.

Journalist: We see more wounded in the hospitals from bullets.Ukrainian soldier : It happens more often because they’re getting close. They have changed tactics. They approach in small groups mainly at night. They are all dressed in black. They are hard to spot and see.We are being bombarded very often with heavy artillery and that is not easy. If we had a chance to answer that would be great.It is very difficult to evacuate the wounded when we are being hit with 150 and 120 mm shells”.

A second Ukrainian soldier reports on the situation in Bakhmut:”We have nothing to eat and nothing to fight.We only have 7 soldiers left at this position. Our Commanders have not come for three weeks.They only took 3 men to deliver ammunition, promised to return the same day and never showed up again.Although here we are in the second line of defense, we are nevertheless receiving very heavy fire”.The Ukrainian points to some dead Polish mercenaries and concludes that he will surrender or he will freeze to death.

Another Ukrainian soldier reports:”I want to send my greetings to AGEETHA Zaluzni and our president.How is it going; Is it hot where you are?You say in your videos that everything is fine, that the soldiers don’t need anything. Not only the orcs (Russians) are killing us, but also the cold.Where are our reinforcements? Management ignores us. The c@@@@@ only threaten us with imprisonment.Remember this: We will definitely be back. We will survive.Not only for the victory but to hang you in Kiev, on Maidan Square.Pray the Russians get there first. Then maybe you will stay alive in prison”!
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https://t.me/astrapress/55672


does this look like a failed attack?



500,000 tons of jet fuel -> 0 tons of Jet Fuel.

That's the way hypocritical liars - or those who don't know how to talk against the truth - try to hide their lies.

Note below that, if you can't get Ukraine into Nato because they aren't fighting hard enough, then send in more people to help them fight so you have an excuse to drag them into Nato. I mean, there probably aren't enough people left in Ukraine who can do any substantial fighting. They're all dead, already. So, will it really work given Russia's stance against Nato? Or is it simply a West face saving attempt?


Blinken stresses importance of Ukrainians embracing mobilization as a necessary step to NATO membership

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-05-17-blinken-ukraine-embrace-mobilization-necessary-membership-nato.html
During a visit to Ukraine, Secretary of State Antony Blinken emphasized the need for Ukrainians to embrace further mobilization efforts as a crucial step toward their country's eventual membership with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Addressing students at the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute, Blinken underscored that while Ukrainians can rely on continued support from the United States, they must also recognize the significance of the military draft in countering so-called Russian aggression.

"The recent mobilization was a tough decision, but a vital one. The brave defenders who valiantly held the line for over two years need assistance. They require respite," Blinken said.

He emphasized that successful military mobilization efforts would strengthen Ukraine's defenses, bolster unit numbers and better enable Ukrainians to confront Russian forces.

Blinken acknowledged members of the university community who volunteered, noting that 88 of them have lost their lives in the ongoing conflict. He also reiterated the U.S. commitment to Ukraine's future as a free, prosperous democracy fully integrated into the Euro-Atlantic community.

"We are advancing Ukraine's NATO membership, ensuring a robust and illuminated pathway," he pledged, believing that there will be significant progress on this front. This comes as Russian officials claim that Ukraine incurred over 111,000 casualties this year alone, as of early May.

Western powers assert that their support for Ukraine is a means of countering Russia's imperial ambitions over Eastern Europe, while the Kremlin asserts that the conflict is part of a U.S.-led proxy war against Russia. Russian officials cite NATO's growing presence in Ukraine as its primary motive for military action.


Ukraine's new military mobilization law requires all men aged 18 to 60 to be available for draft
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Yes, you are. You have been several months vomiting the most elementary level of brainwashed propaganda precisely stating how great is Ruzzia and how terrible is (You?? who do you think you are talking to dude?) the West (I assume). It is very hypocritical for you to pretend anything else.

Sorry that I have to explain to you and the resident trolls here stuff at primary level - you are unable to grasp anything more complex and sometimes not even such basics. Brain damage probably.

Off the mud now:

Ukraines "100 drones strike" has caught Ruzzia ridiculously unprepared. Refineries, electrical sub-stations, ports, rail stations at long and short range have been hit. Crimea remains open for a repetition as Ruzzia seems unable to restore the air defence in the time frame that would be expected.

I'm not sayng that Russians are better than you, I'm saying that you're not better than them
You sound like elementary school kid talking about geopolitics

He is not good at math. Just the S400 is more expensive than the weapons used, but what is more, the air system removed has allowed a volley of drones that have reached oil terminals, infrastructure, stations, power generators...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XPigYj5n7I

There are videos of people speaking of drones passing over again and again, sources mention 80 to 100. I would not believe it myself if there was not quite a bit of evidence filmed. I will be providing details of the extent of damages as they are photo - satellite confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tf-95z-GBk

1. it includes Tuapse refinery, this is well past the Kerch Bridge, near "Putins Palace".

@Branko, have you any doubt of what I am saying is true? Carpet bombing my comment is not very convincing

If you can buy ir make several jets or S-400 system for $10 million, then you must be living in alternative reality. And it's not just all about price - Russia isn't capable to produce as many jets or air defense systems as they wish, after all it's not simple stuff like armoured vehicle.
And yeah, Ukraine is destrying these targets just to hide fact that they're losing, interesting logic.

In reality, they spend 100m weaponry to destroy 10m worth Russian stuff, so that UK propaganda
has something to write about to hide fact that Ukraine is losing