Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 64. (Read 76649 times)

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

Yep no threat at all here, we're just bringing cookies with our military alliance to the Russian borders, but god help you if you try to bring a new car with child safety belts to Cuba, we consider that an existential threat to US national security! The world is dumb enough to believe that, right? Oops, shame that articles can't be easily removed from the internet huh?

That is correct, the multiplier in Ruzzia and China may be larger - despite a dacha here and there - but it is still not even close to an even match.

The money spent in Afghanistan by Ruzzia? Oh, you mean the money spent by US only later on? Well, the problem seemed to be that some groups in there were destroying the infrastructure of the US (e.g. towers and the like) so US had to make sure that the infrastructure was protected.

For example, Ukraine was not destroying anything in Ruzzia, so the invasion money and blood could have been put to a better use in Ruzzia. There was no threat. Now Ruzzia has spent a lot of money while creating a new and very real threat.

I am sure you will try no to see the difference right?

Money wins wars, among other things.




You have a dual personality. You pretend to be an US Texan guy, but it is becoming more and more evident you work for China and have only ill intentions toward the US.

Ukraine is essentially dead. If Ukraine quit right now, and if Russia didn't destroy her, Ukraine wouldn't be able to do anything at all to get back on her feet.

Why would China want to end the war? World trade. Peaceful trade with the world is what everybody wants. The problem is that the US wants to control (rape and plunder) it rather than let people and countries be free.

A significant proportion of domestic murders are committed with ordinary kitchen knives. This does not make kitchen knives bladed weapons or dual-use goods.

Unlike Great Britain, China is making significant diplomatic efforts to quickly end the armed conflict in Ukraine. If Ukraine can avoid complete military defeat and humiliating capitulation, it will be only thanks to Xi’s influence on Putin.

Its not about how much money you spend, its what can you buy with that money. Same thing can cost $2 in Bangladesh and $2000 in Luxembourg

Another example, look what USA got for their 2000 billion USD investment in Afghanistan...imagine that unimaginable amount of money
spent in the USA on building infrastructure

But obviously you're brainwashed into thinking that money spent wins the war

So you think China is not supplying weapons to Ruzzia and this time the US is not lying but most other times they are lying?

I have seen a few news here and there of ships doing a "pit stop" in China, getting to Ruzzia and getting some containers pretty quickly to the front. And if I have seen it, Sullivan has seen it at 1x1m resolution.

My guess is that China is supplying mostly dual use stuff, like this "washing machine controller" that oh look! perfectly fits in this "missile control unit", etc. Shells and stuff that leaves traces, I have not seen yet. e.g. drones are relatively low tech and parts may not have markings.

These are the usual unfounded statements by the representative of Great Britain, which throughout the conflict has been actively engaged in its escalation and attempts to incite a full-scale world war. Yesterday, Sullivan said at a briefing that the United States does not have data on China's supply of weapons and military equipment to Russia or preparations for its shipment.

Simply put, the UK defence minister is publicly lying.

Surprises absolutely no one, China cannot allow Russia to fail because China will then fail. The biggest blunder the idiots in power managed to achieve is provide Russia to China. Ukrainian manpower will run out first in all outcomes, but escalating by sending NATO troops to Ukraine would just push China to come out and openly support Russia, of course that would lead to sanctions at which point nothing will hold China back from opening a new front in Taiwan. Or perhaps it was China's plan from the start in order to get US to use up as much air-defense as possible. Then we're back to good 'ol nuclear stand off, and everyone will act surprised as usual.

You need to realize that a whole lot of the money the US and Nato spend is simply markup. If the military in these countries wasn't so greedy, they could get by with a lot less. The point is that the spending is built into the system, and it is difficult to 'buy' results from their military manufacturers because of the markup.

On the other side, with lower markup in Russia and China, there isn't the incentive to work as hard to develop new war tech. However, they don't really have to. US military bases around the world are made up of people who want to make more money than piddly military pay. So, they sell US armament on the black market, which means that the American military is developing for both sides, and really doesn't care who wins.

This is obvious from the fact that both China and Russia have nuclear missiles. They didn't invent those missiles - although they may have invented improvements. They were sold those missiles through the black market, if they weren't outright given the technology.

The West is one of its own worst enemies. And it is flooding the world with the ability to destroy everything.

BTW, listen to be.open. He has a lot of down-to-earth info that is going on right now in Ukraine. Here's how bad it's going for Ukraine.


WATCH: Kassam Warns Ukraine Will Be ‘First African Nation in Europe’ After Post-War Replacement Migration.

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https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/05/20/watch-kassam-warns-ukraine-will-be-first-african-nation-in-europe-after-post-war-replacement-migration/
"Ukraine, what's the plan for the future of Ukraine? Because, clearly, the plan isn't to keep young Ukrainian men alive to rebuild the nation after all of this is done," Kassam said while co-hosting the War Room with Donald Trump's former chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon.

"There's nothing left. So, who do you think they intend to import into Ukraine to rebuild the country? If I can put it so bluntly, Ukraine will be the first African nation in Europe in 10 to 15 years' time if this thing continues the way it is. They are going to mass import… They've got a base for mass migration like you've never seen before, and they've got a 'moral imperative' for it as well: 'We have to rebuild! Of course! We need all these people! Bring 'em in, they're academics and doctors,' and so forth," he explained.
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Emm... there were 50.000 well armed Ruzzis in the offensive and it is pretty much stopped after Ruzzia loosing in the range of 1500 soldiers a day. Are you sure you have taught a lesson to anyone?

BTW Klishivka is at most "contested". A flag in a ruined building is not "control".

Respect to peace plans... there will not be peace. There will not be a Putin & Zelensky meeting and surely not a handshake ever. What may happen is something similar to North and South Korea, with Ruzzia playing the North Korea role. Putin does not have a plan B, he only has the "double the bet" plan... is called martingale and end in ruin.

But it is good to see you remain optimist about this whole idea of invading your neighbours. I am sure Finland and the Baltic Republics are taking good note.

do you remember you post with a smiley saying "only if those missiles would stop" (two years ago or so)... time to apply this to your oil facilities.

Meanwhile, Zelensky's original peace plan, scheduled to be discussed at a summit in Switzerland in June, appears to be reduced from the original ten points to just three. And there will no longer be any talk about the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Frankly, I did not expect that Russia’s diversionary strike in the Kharkov direction with only 10-15 thousand bayonets would be so shockingly painful for Ukraine. Syrsky feverishly began to pull reserves from other sectors of the front, seemingly significantly weakening them. Today Russia announced that it had taken Kleshcheevka and its surrounding heights.

I think in the next three weeks Russia will try to clearly demonstrate its best fighting spirit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

Total US + Europe (just France, UK an Germany):
960B + 200B = 1160 B

Total China + Ruzzia
296B + 109 B = 404 B (not even half, not even half of just the US)

I think that your troll farm should pay you much less of whatever you are getting paid and Xi starting to get the right friends. Anyway, I think that this "eternal no-limits" friendship is as crap as it looks. Countries do not have friends, they have interests.

Europe and the US are observing how even with such a "powerful alliance" cannot gain more than a few hundred meters a week against a small-ish country such as Ukraine with a minimal support from Europe and US. China's leaders should be taking very good note of what it means to try and above all, look a Ruzzia and see what it means to fail. Xi would not survive ever a disaster such as Ruzzia's in Ukraine.


They show how the winners of this war are not in Europe, Ruzzia nor China.

Friendly relations have been established between Russia and China. This can be seen from the meeting of the presidents of these two countries. It is interesting to see how the Russian President is greeted in a friendly manner in China. This is a serious business alliance between two strong countries and it is an alliance for many years. Therefore, I think all leaders of European countries should understand this and draw conclusions.Friendship between Russia and China brings benefits to the two countries and I think in case of danger or military confrontation, these countries will unite to fight and this will be the strongest army in the world

Your videos prove Russia was right to preemptively attack Ukraine?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pYsaXER-gDw?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MQGr4ATbs4M?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jDdfKel_1B8?feature=share

Looks like the largest part of the world is uniting. Do they really want to fight the West? Probably not. All they want to do is have better relations among themselves.


Putin, Xi pledge stronger partnership as Russia pummels Ukraine

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-05-21-putin-xi-stronger-partnership-russia-pummels-ukraine.html
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping pledged to deepen their partnership during a meeting in Beijing on Thursday, May 16, highlighting their countries' united front against the West. This meeting comes as Putin intensifies his offensive in Ukraine and follows his recent military leadership shake-up.

Putin's visit to China, his first international trip since starting his fifth term, underscores the strong ties between the two nations despite the ongoing war in Ukraine. The leaders signed a joint statement to enhance their comprehensive strategic partnership, although it stopped short of forming a formal alliance. This strategic ambiguity serves as a deterrent to the U.S. and its allies, according to Natasha Kuhrt of King's College London. (Related: FORGED IN FIRE: Russia-China ties reach "unprecedented" level amid tensions with the West.)

Russia and China, celebrating 75 years of diplomatic relations, have faced significant tests due to the Ukraine conflict and Putin’s increasing isolation from the West. China, portraying itself as neutral, has nonetheless supported Russia diplomatically and economically, becoming a key market for Russian oil and gas amid Western sanctions.

China's 12-point peace plan, perceived as favoring Russia's territorial claims, has been dismissed by the West. Despite this, Xi expressed hopes for peace in Europe and pledged to continue playing a constructive role.

The U.S. has ramped up military aid to Ukraine and imposed sanctions on Chinese companies aiding Russia. During a recent visit to Beijing, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Russia's war effort would falter without China's support and threatened further sanctions.

Xi, balancing relations with the West and Russia, faces pressures from European leaders to leverage his influence over Putin to end the conflict. This diplomatic tightrope is evident as Chinese exports to Russia saw a decline in March for the first time since 2022.

Putin's visit to China included full military honors and talks with Xi, followed by a planned visit to Harbin for a China-Russia trade fair. Putin highlighted the "unprecedented level of strategic partnership" with China as the reason for his visit.

Accompanying Putin was Andrey Belousov, the new Russian defense minister, following a surprise military leadership change. Russia's renewed offensive in northern Ukraine has raised concerns among Kyiv and its allies about potential decisive gains by Putin's forces.

His visit coincides with ongoing, casualty-heavy advances by Russian forces, facilitated by a six-month delay in new U.S. aid for Ukraine.

Russia, China to enhance "no limits" partnership
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Edit:
Upps... you were speaking about the waters claims... Yes, you are right, it seems it has been taken back...

Sorry Branko, you do not get Radioactive Spider powers just yet.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-ministry-proposes-revising-baltic-sea-border-2024-05-22/


The Kremlin seems to have echoed / validated the existence of the proposal for the funding retentions:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-eu-plan-take-revenue-frozen-russian-assets-is-still-theft-2024-05-22/


I am going to give some credibility to this given that:

- A proxy attack was recently taken in Germany.
- UK, France, others are complaining of a ridiculous degree of hacking and infiltration attempts some with economic consequences.
- France is getting geopolitical interests damaged.
- The unilateral territorial waters claim in the Baltic by Ruzzia is short of on an annexation (it is not unusual, but opens the door to all type of problems).

My guess is that the EU is simply increasing the pressure in an asymmetric fashion and is in line with the general strategy of deteriorating the finances of Ruzzia, while not directly robbing the assets but rather not contributing to the war effort passively.

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Bloomberg also writes about it