Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 64. (Read 73526 times)

Are you getting nervous? Name calling? Really? You are the only stupid here that does not understands how nuclear deterrence works.

I will repeat it again, just because you seem to like it that much: one nuke is not just a bit more than zero. It is the difference between a nuclear power and not a nuclear power, between having a world with a controlled number of countries with a controlled number of combinations for a nuclear conflict and an scenario that doubles the number of nuclear armed countries and exponentially grows the combinations for a conflict.

1000 nukes in and controlled by Germany, Poland, Letonia, Lituania, Ukraine, Finland, Norway... just name all the countries that feel threatened by Ruzzia - and you claim that does not matter because "it is not too many more nukes"? I think you just do not understand shit of the world we live in.

Having this scenario is Putin's doing because everyone around Ruzzia cannot ever feel safe, so happy birthday and I hope that if we are all ever blown up it catches you counting the money you are getting paid little troll.


Your eyes.


Stop pretending that Germany, Poland and the Baltic countries are not going thinking already about getting their own deterrence when Trump is saying he wants to break NATO.

In that regard is irrelevant who wins the elections, because in military terms you have to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst and Europe can no longer assume that the US umbrella will work. Europe is veeery slow, but is not stupid.


You can buy an electric generator from Germany, US,... is not that easy, it takes a while to manufacture and it is not a perfect solution at all. You can import electricity and perhaps improve the infrastructure to import which is no off the shelve, but is not high tec either. The attacks on Ukraine power grid are to be taken seriously, but they will not stop the Ukrainian army.

At the same time, you cannot buy a refinery distillation column. You cannot build it yourself and you cannot just get it by Amazon next day. You just need to get used to buy gasoline in the market  (it is cheap right now, fill the tanks... or maybe not, they may get blown) and not having it will stop your troops. As it will not having enough to pay for the cost of a war.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-gazprom-swings-into-69-billion-net-loss-2023-2024-05-02/

This alone will not cause Ruzzia to loose, but along with a wider strategy and more pressure points, it perfectly may.

It seems regarding energy, Ukraine was in deep trouble month ago already:

https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1778373018391027864

To paraphrase Arestovich, I can note that there are only two or three hydroelectric power stations left in Ukraine for attacks on Russian refineries.

ps After this, Ukraine will soon be closer than ever to the European dream of green generation, with 100% generation from nuclear power plants.

Again please stop with your moronic statements about nukes. Even if 1 nuke goes to Moscow that would mean that there is no more world. That's like saying what would happen if one nuke from Belarus makes it to Washington. Reshuffling nukes within NATO makes no difference. Also stop pretending that Russia is planning on attacking Germany, as if NATO didn't have article 5, and pretending that Russia and Germany weren't building more gas pipelines directly between each other to bypass Ukraine before 2014, before someone decided to blow up some of them.

Sure there are no guarantees with Trump, but at this point it's more likely than not. Basing your whole foreign policy on that not happening just means you're trying to fool your own people.

Well, when it's between top pentagon official and a forum member without citations think you know who we all believe more.

You're not explaining why such basic strategy, which even you can see hasn't been implemented yet? Incompetence or by design?

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Russia put Two Ukrainian hydroelectric power plants out of operation so this was the response. Also speculating that they just launching them from within Russia, there's definitely enough space to launch whatever you want and not be seen for kilometers.

While Ukraine continue hitting oil refineries in Russia, such strikes is getting deeper and deeper. This atime they hit refinery in Bashkortostan, Salavat city which is located about 1500 km from border with Ukraine:
https://t.me/breakingmash/54061
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-attack-oil-refinery-bashkortostan-1898844
This time it seems that not much damage was made, but only fact that drone went all this long distance unnoticed is crazy. Well, unless it was released from inside Russia.

Firstly, I did not take you for such a short sighted one, unless you are again trying to cover up. Even 1 nuke changes the game. There is a qualitative gap between 0 nukes and even 1 nuke, I dare say, more than between 10 and 20. So yes, 1000 nukes in Europe, inclusive of Germany, are more than enough to create second thoughts on anyone trying to invade. It is simple: even if 5 nukes pass the defences and get to Moscow... well, there is no Moscow.

On Trump, well, who knows. He says he intends to end the war in 48 hours... he does not say how and he has said so many things... The gap with Biden, whatever you say, I have seen pols with just a tiny difference.

Glad to know that Ukis can send the glide bombs at around 150Km, I would not have imagined that kind of rangeeven for the smaller units, it kind of make the F16 strategy more interesting.

The deputy US Secretary of defence for Acquisition is just a pencil pusher. You can choose to give credit to his opinion or to retired generals trying to make a buck here and there. I have been looking at the front and some of the Ukrainian strikes and lead me to think that "not working" is nor really a thing.

Re the bullet points, well, if you want a full text, you can look at my previous posts. I mean, if you like heavy documents that you are not going to read nor probably understand, you have them there. it is funny because the official strategy published matches quite a bit of the points I put forward. Maybe I should take a job on this.

Both NATO and Russia have more than enough nukes, about 12k together. In the word of thermonuclear fusion weapons, hypersonic missiles, and fractional orbital bombardment systems the idea that 1k more nukes would change something is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. If my country looses so should the whole world mindset?

With Trump is leading in polls 49% and Biden slipping to 43% and Biden's 13th-Quarter Approval Average Lowest Historically...None of the other nine presidents elected to their first term since Dwight Eisenhower had a lower 13th-quarter average than Biden. denying and not planning for such outcome is just idiotic at this point. Regardless how you feel about Trump, any politician that doesn't plan for Trumps presidency to later claim any such outcome as totally unexpected should be laughed out of politics right now. It's like some politicians acting that they just found out that Russia has 3x population to Ukraine.

Looks like Forbes also puts GLSDB range at about 150km

You can not believe Deputy US Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment all you want. But if you want to prove him wrong and claim that GLSDB work for Ukraine you got to cite something outside of your opinion and few pictures.

Wow what a great strategy in just 6 bullet point! But are you saying this is totally new, like really no one thought to implement such basic strategy in the previous 2+ years of fighting? Do you think that's because they're just totally incompetent or it was by design?

Seems that Belarus is starting to wake up its support of Russia, if the Ukraine war goes to WW3. Belarus, if you remember, is the Country just North of Ukraine... the country that let Russia use its land in the first attack against Kiev at the start of the war. More countries should recognize the disastrous affect the West is having on Ukraine, and jump out of Nato and join Russia... if they want their freedom to survive as a country, that is.


Putin Ally Makes Surprise Nuclear Move

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-ally-makes-surprise-nuclear-move/ar-BB1m1XqK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=4603d79207d344ec9905d0c4299882b4&ei=15
The Institute for the Study of War (ISW), a Washington D.C.-based think tank, in its latest analysis of the conflict in Ukraine on Tuesday weighed in on Lukashenko's move to conduct sudden checks on the readiness of his military to deploy tactical nuclear weapons.

Lukashenko is a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Belarus, a former Soviet Union republic, has maintained strong relations with Russia since the Russian leader launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

In January, the Belarusian president announced that Russian nuclear weapons, controlled by Moscow, had arrived in Belarus. Lukashenko said last month that "several dozen" tactical nuclear weapons from Russia had been deployed in his country. The drills will involve those weapons.
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Oh, there seems to have been an assassination attempt against Zelensky. Interesting now that we speak of terrorism.

As far as I know, there is war between two nations. You can have war crimes, e.g. Russia bombing systematically schools and hospitals, kidnapping children, etc... But an attack on a militarily valuable asset (e.g. the fuel required for your war) is not terrorism. As usual BA here is just inventing his own narrative, as detached from reality as all the rest.

No Ukraine has a strategy and has been given the means to develop it. It is a nasty, corroding and something that Ruzzia can do little about. dumBAss is getting very nervous - perhaps also because his hero Trump is being judged and the "adult film actress" he had sex with said "he was not wearing a condom" when they copulated.


I am absolutely ok if Ruzzia decides to lose honourably, but given the war crimes committed since the very beginning of the war that is no longer possible.

BTW you should learn a bit of history. Well... you should learn a lot of things... or perhaps something, anything... The US is independent because the French fleet supported it - try not to forget it. I am sure there was a member of your family in France complaining of having to spend the money of those US terrorists and saying that the Brits were winning.

https://youtu.be/CznwLGb2xfw

You don't seem to understand. The two major points in this are:
1. Ukraine is ONLY using terrorism because they don't have - can't get - anything else;
2. Russia isn't even worried. They could do the same terrorism, but it isn't something they need right now.

If the British had used terrorist attacks in pre-US America like the colonists did, they would have easily won. The British lost through being honorable.

Only problem with guerilla is that you can be "freedom fighter" and "madman terrorist", depending on situation.

You dismiss guerrilla tactics as some sort of failure and "terrorism", when it's actually one of smartest and effective defense tactics that Russia has been notoriously vulnerable against in the past. But it doesn't surprise me as anything you talk about is usually made up fear mongering nonsense.

Guerrilla tactics has been the reason American colonists got their independence against one of the best armies at the time. It's the reason Russia failed in Afganistan and Chechnya and why they couldn't invade Finland. I could keep giving more examples as you clearly haven't paid attention during history class, but i don't think you would gain anything from facts, as they aren't your thing.

And good luck with your brics. When delusional dictators try to team up it's probably going to end well, right? At least you have found your team. I find dictator bootlicking weird but you go grl!

Strength for strength, Russia is easily winning the war against Ukraine. The problem exists in the way they must win right now. Here's what I mean.

Ukraine has devolved to having to use terrorist - similar to guerilla warfare - attacks against Russia. They don't have enough people left to fight... even with the few Nato troops that are helping them, and the US military 'trainers' who are trying to train the few Ukrainian troops that are left to use US war machines. Ukraine is barely holding onto the pieces of land they have left.

Russia is sitting in a position of strength, but getting stronger rather than using the strength it already has. Russia isn't overrunning Ukraine because she doesn't want to make an excuse for the US and Nato to send in more troops. Rather, Russia is simply holding onto what she has gained in Ukraine - and advancing only a little - because she is wearing the US and Nato down.

How is Russia wearing the US and Nato down? She is working with China to build BRICS up into the new world money system. She is advancing into Africa; African nations are kicking the US and Nato out while inviting Russia in. In  addition, Russia is advancing her military strength and technology, both in the kinds of war machines she has, and in her nuke capabilities... with the space platform.

Nobody can really say what the final outcome will be... yet. If Trump gets into office, he will reverse all kinds of things the Deep State is doing to strengthen Ukraine and keep the war going. He'll reverse things the same way Biden did in his first two weeks, by making all kinds of Executive Orders that take things back to what he was doing at the end of his first term.

The big point is that this isn't really a war between Russia and Ukraine. Rather, it is a war between Russia and the West, and always has been, and even Ukrainians don't want it and are trying to find a way out.


Zelensky Assassination Plot Foiled, Two Colonels Arrested, Ukraine Intelligence Says

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-assassination-plot-foiled-two-colonels-arrested-ukraine-intelligence-says
The Ukrainian government and intelligence services are claiming that a major assassination plot targeting President Volodymyr Zelensky has been thwarted. The plot also allegedly aimed to take out other top military and political figures.

Ukraine's state security service (SBU) unveiled the plot Tuesday in announcing the detention of two colonels in the State Guard of Ukraine said to be involved in the criminal conspiracy. The State Guard is responsible for protecting top political as well as military figures, somewhat akin to the Secret Service in the US.
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+300 pages, +2 years of war, tons of bullshit in the internet. So who is winning? Or both sides are still wasting ammo, money and people without any progress?

You make my answers very easy dumBAss thank you. Something you have to understand is that if you make a claim it is on you to provide some logic or support to it, not on others to debunk every little part of your parallel universe. Hint: "freedomphoenix" is unlikely to be taken seriously by most people here. Or anywere. Is more like... the joke of internet or the humour pages of a porn magazine.

Let me put an example for you: It seems that ATACAMS "did not work" in the fuel stores in Luhansk today. (See, that is just me sayin)

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/likely-ukrainian-strike-oil-depot-221900321.html

See? That is me citing a source that is reasonably credible and modest in their assumptions.


And now I quote a declaration by a Ruzzian source that is easy for anyone to verify, as it is an official statement.

Moving on now to some pictures that could potentially be verified:





Plus a video, just for you dumBAss:

https://t.me/newsgrpua/99910?single

See dumBAss, this is how people may have a good degree of confidence in what you say has happened.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is recruiting new volunteers

https://t.me/vicktop55/24363

You shmart. You didn't have to type so much. You only had one sentence that is not true. Lol.

I am not sure what do they mean. UK weapons have already been used in Crimea and according to Putin, Crimea is Ruzzia 

They already killed a guy with Novichok even before the war in UK. Hybrid warfare cuts both ways though. Ruzzia will not claim the attack... an the UK will deny any use of their weapons in Ruzzia I guess.

The interesting thing is that they will need to make sure that it is actually an UK asset, because half of UK is property of the plutocrats an most likely Putin himself. Well, would it not be super to give the UK a excuse to re-posses part of Putin´s assets as war reparations?

Hey, look, another Ukrainian glide bomb "not working"

https://t.me/officer_alex33/2745


There is not a single sentence in there that is remotely true.

Ukraine's new weapon is all that it has left. It's called, terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks are similar to guerilla warfare. Why is Ukraine doing this? They don't have anything or people left to do anything else.

If Russia started doing this in Ukraine, It would be all over by now. But of course, the Russian attacks on Ukraine infrastructure - power plants, ammunition dumps, military factories - are far beyond anything that Ukraine is doing to Russia.

Even with the few military people sent from the US and Nato, if they don't join in the fighting themselves, but are there for training purposes, there aren't any Ukrainian troops left to train. They are all gone... to the tune of almost 600,000 Ukrainian troops dead. Nato, especially, is scared to send any of their troops in with figures like that.

Read on the news that Russia is preparing to strike UK assets, have they made it close to Gibraltar or Guernsey or are they taking the other route, crossing the Volga, Urals, the Atlantic and then a surprise attack through Greenland and Ireland right on St Patrick?
That would be really nasty, I would need to prepare and do stuff, I have a netflix subscription I'm going to cancel if they will only show russian movies!