Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 63. (Read 76596 times)

The change in Ukraine draft laws is coming too late. By the time these new troops get properly trained, the war will be over. But if they are not properly trained, they will die.

The whole new draft is designed to make it look like Ukraine is doing something to fight the war successfully. Many people will believe this, and will allow their governments to send more money to Ukraine. Does anybody think that more money will be accounted for any better than what was previously sent?

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Ukraine Enforces Desperate Conscription Laws As Russian Troops Close In On Kharkiv

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-enforces-desperate-conscription-laws-russian-troops-close-kharkiv
It lowers the minimum draft age from 27 to 25 (Ukraine has a demographic shortage of men ages 18-25).  And, all military age Ukrainian men abroad must come back to Ukraine to renew their passports, including refugees driven from their homes in the early days of the war. 

Conscripts must update their address, contact information, and military records within 60 days through government institutions or a mobile application.  This is in preparation for a national draft database containing information on every fighting age male in the country.  The conscription measures are expected to greatly reduce Ukraine's labor pool, forcing many businesses to shut down.  Essential workers are not exempt from the draft.

Vladimir Zelensky signed two other bills into effect, one allowing prisoners to be deployed to the front lines (the western media criticized Russia last year for implementing a similar measure), the other bill quintuples fines for people caught trying to evade the draft.   

Early versions of the law allowed for concessions on pay and better rotation for soldiers, including a policy which would relieve soldiers serving for 36 months or more.  All demobilization concessions were removed from the final version; Ukraine's military leadership argued that they needed the most experienced soldiers to remain at the front.

Kyiv has offered cash bonuses to troops towards purchases of housing and cars as an incentive to join the war effort, however, critics argue that the Ukrainian treasury does not actually have the funds to fulfill the promises Zelinsky is making.

To counter charges of undermining soldier morale, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry says it is working on a separate demobilization bill, but massive manpower shortages make any demobilization action highly unlikely.  Front line soldiers have repeatedly complained about the lack of rotation, with some rarely getting a chance to leave the trenches in the past two years.
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Keep tryin'

https://youtu.be/RC_bQZ3xy58

"We have no fortifications, officers stole money, Russians are professionally trained soldiers, have to use WW2 artillery pieces"...on CNN, from mouth of Ukraine soldiers,


I can imagine what unedited video would look like

With added US and Nato military intervention, things become rather 'muddy' in Ukraine. This isn't really a war with Ukraine any longer. The Ukraine part has ceased to become something to deal with. This is now becoming a formal Russia/China against the-US/Nato war.

The US WANTS this war... the government and other leaders. Why? Because they think that there are way too many people in the world already. So let's get rid of a few of them, even if it means war.


The Conflict in Ukraine: How Do Matters Stand?

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https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/05/23/the-conflict-in-ukraine-how-do-matters-stand/
Update: Those promoting the 'foreign agent law' in Georgia could be barred from traveling to America, Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said
https://www.rt.com/russia/598171-us-visa-crackdown-georgia-foreign-agent-law/
Clearly, Washington intends a color revolution in Georgia as a second front against Russia.

I have tried to provide accurate analysis of the conflict in Ukraine. This is not a simple task as there is little publicly available information about how the Kremlin sees the widening of the conflict. France has sent troops. The US Secretary of Defense said that eventually NATO troops will be deployed to Ukraine, and European governments are preparing for war with Russia in 4 or 5 years.

Putin's original goals were the liberation of the Donbas region, and denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine. How denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine were to be accomplished without the conquest of Ukraine was never clear.

The appearance of long-range missiles, that is, missiles whose reach extends beyond the battlefield into Russia, resulted in statements from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs that Russia would have to compensate for the missiles reach by taking more of Ukraine in order to create a buffer zone. As the missiles the West sends keep lengthening in range, the consequence is that the buffer zone keeps enlarging and the entirety of Ukraine will have to be conquered and occupied and a Russian-friendly government installed in Ukraine. Already there are reports of Ukrainian drone attacks on Tatarstan in central Russia one thousand kilometers from the front line in Ukraine. Clearly the conflict is not a limited military operation. https://www.rt.com/russia/598116-airports-closed-factory-evacuated-tatarstan-drone/.
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True result sure, you are all about "truth". If is not "true" then is AI because it is impossible that is "true" if you think it has to be "not true". Maybe these are not in Yandex when you search.

Oh, what a pity, now that Ukraine "cannot communicate" any more I am sure they won't be able to blow up radars, refineries, the weapons "will not work", all the attacks will be "repelled" and the the "truth" will be revealed to the world.

More "AI" for you...
https://youtu.be/K_jdfaI5dyQ?t=45

To each his own...I guess you like your Big Brother picking stuff you're allowed to see,
and that's perfectly fine, I only see problem with them hiding it...in China you at least
know you're behind big firewall


Between Google, Yandex, and Baidu, I choose one giving true results, you choose one
giving you predetermined brainwashing results, and Chinese people are forced to be
creative, I guess

I also prefer strategic assessment of situation on battlefield, while you prefer
tiny Ukrainian "wins" that MSM handpicks for you...half of them probably fake AI
generated since its strange after so many "wins" battlefield is moving in the opposite direction

Meanwhile, Ukraine can't even communicate anymore:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/technology/ukraine-russia-starlink.html

And that does not ring any bells with you of course.

Meanwhile, 70 km from the front, another S400 is mysteriously blown up.
https://t.me/dosye_shpiona/531

There is also some evidence on how the Ruzzian air defence "intercepts" ATACAMS, but somehow they still explode in the ground as if not. This is the attack on an space radar facility in south west Crimea.

https://t.me/vanek_nikolaev/23729

Ukraine has thought it may be a good idea after all hitting electrical infrastructure.

https://t.me/ssternenko/28981

Actually, I tested it a bit and compared to Google...its hilarious how much Google is controlled compared to Yandex
Yandex gives me exactly what I'm searching for, while if I search "video of Russia soldier killing ukrainian soldier",
first 200 links will give me exactly opposite...videos of ukrainian soldiers killing russian ones
So thanks BADecker for suggestion.

I also found another trick CIA/NSA use...I can't see RT by any normal browser because
they all say it's unsafe because their certificate is self-signed.
Then I try using TOR and it works...and certificate is signed by...tadaaa...:

"Let's Encrypt" - from the USA, lol

"Invited to join NATO"? Interesting if there was such a thing. NATO does not "invite" - anyone can request joining NATO (even Ruzzia could ask). If you ask me, it has been proven beyond any doubt that Ukraine was very right in considering this option. The fact is that Putin simply does not consider Ukraine a free independent state and that is the root problem of all this.

BTW you should read your own sources...


In my book, that's a no.

Now... let's talk tenability of Crimea in light of yesterdays ATACAMS strike on a radar facility in the southwest of Crimea. Would you say that Crimea is tenable?

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-war-crimea-atacms-strike-hits-russian-space-radar-station-report-1904311

You're so brainwashed that even notorious Blackwater founder disagrees with you about that...so obviously discussion
with you is meaningless:

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1793187801703338343


After all this 320 pages of discussion, you still think you can reverse events and we don't remember that Ukraine was invited to NATO BEFORE
Russia annexed Crimea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit

Yandex? You propose to use a Russian-controlled search engine to see what is really happening?

It's so ludicrous that it's actually funny.  

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

Ah yes desperation, surely a worldwide accepted totally valid reason to push the world closer to nuclear Armageddon. Lets move the doomsday clock forward again because Ukraine is winning so hard.

Thanks for the encouragement. But you are kinda missing it on one major point.

Nobody knows the future. Surrender might bring a worse war in a few years. But it won't be a Ukrainian war, even if the so-called nation of Ukraine is involved. Why not? Because there isn't much of any Ukraine left to do any fighting in their wildest dreams. A surrender would only serve to bring peace, and peace NOW, and to rebuild what is left of Ukraine.

Would a bigger war come to Ukraine later? Maybe. But a NOW surrender would make Ukraine part of Russia, because Russia would be the one rebuilding Ukraine. The worse war later, if any came about, would be Ukraine fighting the US and some of whatever might be left of Nato.


After blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines that provided low-cost energy to Germany, the U.S. is now threatening German banks with sanctions

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-05-23-nord-stream-germany-us-threatening-sanctions-yellen.html
Money queen and globalist villain Janet Yellen is back in Germany threatening punishment unless German leaders obey her orders to heighten their compliance with Russian sanctions.

The United States Treasury head met with bankers in Frankfurt this week to crack the whip of tyranny now that it is becoming painfully obvious that Russia is winning against Ukraine and everything the corrupt Zelensky regime represents.

Russia continues to procure what Yellen described as "sensitive goods" from Germany as part of its special military operation in Ukraine, and Yellen wants it to stop, or else.

According to Yellen, the U.S. government, aka deep state, has assumed the authority to strike foreign banks such as those in Germany with secondary sanctions if there is even a whiff of Russian military-related transactions.

"I urge all institutions here to take heightened compliance measures and to increase your focus on Russian evasion attempts," Yellen bellowed, threatening to bar Germany and other offending countries from being allowed to use the U.S. dollar – oh no, not that...

(Related: Last fall, Yellen bloviated about how the United States can "absolutely" afford another war.)

Yellen wants more police surveillance of German banks

To be sure that they are obeying her orders, Yellen – who is not an elected leader in Germany, by the way – wants all foreign bank branches and subsidiaries in Germany to be monitored and surveilled to ensure they are doing NATO's dirty work.

Even though Western sanctions against Russia are only hurting the West while helping Russia, Yellen wants them all enforced with an iron fist to ensure that she and the rest of her felonious cronies remain in power forever.
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Could've posted some videos of Eurovision, would be just as relevant, hope you get the hint. Guess admitting that it all started with the third-highest ranking US diplomat bringing cookies to Ukraine and saying "FUCK THE EU" is too much to bare? Do you know if those cookies were at least tasty?

paxmao, BADecker, let's stick to the theme of the topic and not get personal. If you want to discuss about each other, go to the Off-Top or Reputation section. I hope for your understanding.

I hope you are a good singer because you are certainly not to make your living with psychology. Nor with politics... well, nor with math, nor history, nor common sense, nor marketing, nor intuition, nor understanding of people and nations, nor writing ability.
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Yes... let's hope you can sign and make few bucks or yuans from it.

You are not in favour of peace, you are in favour of a surrender that will bring an even worse war in a few years.

You don't seem to understand that there is a difference between the people of the US and the crooks in the US Government. But this is to be expected, because loads of Americans seem to be in favor of Biden, all the while he is destroying them. Your mistake is understandable.

Being a US guy from anywhere in America doesn't mean that I have to like my destruction because government is doing it. You can quote all kinds of people saying all kinds of stuff, but the truth doesn't change because of what you quote people saying.

You know all this, and that is why you direct your frustration at me... because I bring the Ukraine failure out into the open in ways that for some reason hurt your itty-bitty feewings.

Your point that you are trying to hide is that you are in favor of wars and killing. So you support more money for Ukraine. You don't seem to realize that if the US wins, it will really be the banking system that wins. Things take enough time to happen that banking-system-mastery-of-the-world probably won't hurt you, much. But it is hurting a lot of Americans, right now, which is simply a foretaste of what is to come if it conquers Russia and China like it has conquered Ukraine and the US.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S0q_N1omukM?feature=share

I hope this gives you a hint.

Ohh a silly attempt at confusing the cause and effect. Care to enlighten us when third-highest ranking US diplomat brought cookies to Ukraine and when Russia took Crimea? Or change the subject yet once again. And yes forcing all males 23+ to the front lines for a "chance for survival". ‘War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength’

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.