Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 67. (Read 73862 times)

I am sure that Ruzzian people and pilots feel very comforted by you precision-targeting words. And I am sure the ground forces are very happy that the gilding bombs "do not work". We may be seeing a few videos of Ukrainian glide bombs "not working" along the next months.
https://youtu.be/7KGEkYhw1pA?t=94

 However:

1.  There is abundant photographic evidence of S400 & S300 being destroyed by ATACAMS - curiously, one of the threat they are supposed to destroy.
2. The good thing about F16 is that they are linked with the NATO systems. AWACS, satellites and nearly every mean of detection out there can provide the target and the F16 can send "a present" to the Ruzzia Air-defence forces beyond their range. Oh, you can of course bring the S300 closer to the front, that would be a great idea... what could go wrong?

As usual, your hand picked set of articles tends to ignore some facts replacing them with "opinions". Most of you previous links had also opinions that never materialised in facts  so... same old same old.

But it does not matter for the troops, they are the ones on the receiving end. There is a strategy in place, supplies and the will to carry it out. Not bad for "loosing".

“But often, we just don’t get the weapons systems at the time we need them — they come when they’re no longer relevant,” another senior officer said, citing the F-16 fighter jets as an example. A dozen or so F-16s are expected to be operational this summer, after basic pilot training has been completed. “Every weapon has its own right time. F-16s were needed in 2023; they won’t be right for 2024,” he said.
And that’s because, according to this officer, Russia is ready to counter them: “In the last few months, we started to notice missiles being fired by the Russians from Dzhankoy in northern Crimea, but without the explosive warheads. We couldn’t understand what they were doing, and then we figured it out: They’re range-finding,” he said. The officer explained that Russia’s been calculating where best to deploy its S-400 missile and radar systems in order to maximize the area they can cover to target the F-16s, keeping them away from the front lines and Russia’s logistical hubs.

One former F-16 pilot told Insider he wouldn't want to fly missions over Ukraine right now, saying that the aircraft can't outmatch Russia's air-defense systems.

Fourth-generation fighters "have no business in a modern-day battlefield," John Venable, a 25-year veteran of the US Air Force, told Insider in a recent interview.

Let's ignore the range of Russia's S-300 and S-400, and Russian air-to-air R-37 missile. Let's not listen how everyone is saying that F16s don't have a fighting chance given Russia's air-defense systems. and how Much-vaunted US-supplied glide bombs given to Ukraine “didn’t work”, the Pentagon has admitted. and that Russian forces have hit on a cheap way to foil US precision weapons in Ukraine, The new weapon, rapidly delivered to Ukraine, has repeatedly failed in combat, a US official said. or the fact that US won't even allow Ukraine to use F16 to hit SAMs or aircraft inside Belarus or Russia US Doesn't Support Ukraine Using American Weapons in Russia: Ambassador. We all totally believe you that few old fourth generation fighters will defeat all Russian SAMs and 4th and 5th gen fighters. Perhaps it's time to realize that this is beyond some silly pride and admitting being wrong, and to stop senseless losses you should follow the Ukrainian command and start pivoting towards negotiation (Ukraine peace talks alternative to inevitable battlefield defeat, says senior general) instead of peddling yet another "game changer" weapon   Take a break put emotions aside, and give it a thought, that's all i'm saying.

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Rather simple answer, to minimize suffering and loss of life. Rooting for or defending one side or another is only good for sport competition, when real lives are involved one needs to be pragmatic. Discussing what's ethical wrong/right for Ukraine is as good as discussing what's ethical wrong/right for independent self governing Cuba. Needlessly dragging out this conflict has real costs in human lives and is just criminal.

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It's somehow strange to see DaRude constantly wasting his time to defend RuZZIa's war against Ukraine.
Why is he wasting his time to defend RuZZia's war against Ukraine?
Why should someone waste his life time to root for Putler in an online forum?
Why does he want to dictate Ukrainians to just surrender against Putler?
Would he do the same if he was in a position how Ukraine is today, that he will listen to someone who just wants to do whatever dictatorship Russia will impose over Ukraine?

Once again, what a waste of time to defend RuZZian war crimes in an online forum.

I hope DaRude getting paid handsomely, at least.

It seems that Ukraine has received gliding bombs from US and these are being used in the front. These have been a major Ruzzian advantage and Ukraine does not have a good answer to them (likely to change when some f16 arrive). There are being used to soften fortifications and cause chaos before the meatwaves.

It is interesting how Ukraine may be able to use this strategy. Again my guess, they are going to have f16s on patrol well behind the front and use HARM (some have a range of 150 km) to destroy any radar that lights up and use the old soviet planes to throw glide bombs. It may perfectly work.


Has Ruzzia claimed the "attack" or are you making it up? In any case, it is good that Europe understand the true intentions of Putin, it will help people understand that we cannot longer hope for peace instead of creating deterrence. Who knows, Germany may clean the dust from their old files on how to create nukes.

Curiously, from friendly phone talks, Macron is now voicing out the possibility of sending troops to Ruzzia, which is likely to happen if some hybrid attack happens in France. What is certain is that the AASM 250 & 1000KG French glide bombs have been used near Krinky. These demolished some drone operator buildings in one hit.

Edited: It seems that a SU25 got shot down.

BTW; earlier I forgot a link about Russian attack on Germany:

https://twitter.com/SergioLor3/status/1786390919421345834

Branko, are you saying that the dam I said was attacked by Ruzzia was not attacked by Ruzzia or just making casual comments?

Obviously, he should listen to propaganda channel like VOA to get "real" info.

LOL

It probably does not come out in your official TV channels, so it is ok if you just do not know what is happening in Ukraine, nor probably further 1 km away from your own living place.

Again the Khakova dam denial? You cannot destroy a dam like that one by just shelling, even if there was shelling. It is also something that benefits Ruzzia done at the time in which was more beneficial for Ruzzia. It is just senseless to deny.

I am absolutely fine with you not respecting my conversations skills, but also I am guessing that you are ignoring that a hydroelectric central is basically a dam + a few turbines and other electrical equipment? Anyway...

https://www.voanews.com/a/russian-shelling-severely-damages-ukraine-s-zaporizhzhia-dam/7573570.html




It probably does not come out in your official TV channels, so it is ok if you just do not know what is happening in Ukraine, nor probably further 1 km away from your own living place.

You have a very low culture of argument if you allow yourself to substitute concepts like this. This doesn't make you an interesting conversationalist. I would respect you more if you found the strength to admit that you were wrong in blaming Russia for damaging the dams on the Dnieper. Because the only dam that was damaged on the Dnieper is the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station dam, this happened a year ago and there is no evidence that Russia did it (but there is numerous evidence that that dam was repeatedly shelled by Ukraine).

In late March, Russian shelling severely damaged Ukraine’s largest hydroelectric plant. The attack on the Dnipro Hydroelectric Power Station and dam in the frontline city of Zaporizhzhia is a challenge for locals and those living both up and downstream. Eva Myronova has the story, narrated by Anna Rice.

For that you would need to resuscitate the millions of Ukrainians that were starved to death by Stalin.


And you there wondering why are they fighting for uh??

The biggest mistake of Ukraine was handing over the strategic bombers and the nukes that the commies left there. I am guessing that if they have nukes in their territory in the future they may not make that mistake.

Ukrainians should definitely attack Georgia to get revenge for Stalin crimes!


Meanwhile, Russians attacked Germany

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz's government launched a 100 billion euro special defence fund in 2022 in what it described as a "Zeitenwende" or turning point to increase its military spending after Russia's attack on Ukraine.

Ukraine war briefing:
Ukrainians ‘have the right to strike inside Russia’, says David Cameron
France’s Macron stands firm on potentially sending troops
Emmanuel Macron has said the question of sending western troops to Ukraine would “legitimately” arise if Russia broke through Ukrainian frontlines and Kyiv made such a request
sanctions on Russian gas leave Gazprom with record annual loss.
David Cameron has said, as the UK foreign secretary promised £3bn a year “for as long as it is necessary” to help Kyiv

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What is going on in Georgia??

A fresh Russian push will test Ukraine severely, says a senior general
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But he sounds troubled as he assesses Ukraine’s battlefield prospects. Things, he says, are as difficult as they have ever been since the early days of Russia’s full-scale invasion. And they are about to get worse.
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Ukraine’s immediate concern is its high-ground stronghold in the town of Chasiv Yar, which holds the keys to an onward Russian advance to the last large cities in the Donetsk region (see map). It is probably a matter of time before that city falls in a similar way to Avdiivka, bombed to oblivion by the Russians in February, says the general.
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Russia has already won a tactical success in the south-west in the village of Ocheretyne, where a recent Ukrainian troop rotation was bungled. Russian forces succeeded in breaking through a first line of defence and have created a salient 25 square kilometres in size. Ukraine is some way from stabilising the situation, while Russia is throwing “everything” it has to achieve a bigger gain. The Russian army is not the hubristic organisation it was in 2022, says the general, and is now operating as a “single body, with a clear plan, and under a single command”.
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Russia has a total of 514,000 land troops committed to the Ukrainian operation, he says, higher than the 470,000 estimate given last month by General Christopher Cavoli, nato’s top commander. The Ukrainian spymaster says Russia’s northern grouping, based across the border from Kharkiv, is currently 35,000-strong but is set to expand to between 50,000 and 70,000 troops. Russia is also “generating a division of reserves” (ie, between 15,000 and 20,000 men) in central Russia, which they can add to the main effort.
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May will be the key month, says the general, with Russia employing a “three-layered” plan to destabilise the country. The main factor is military. Even though America’s Congress belatedly gave the go-ahead for more military aid, it will take weeks before it filters through to the front line. It is unlikely to match Russia’s stock of shells or provide an effective defence against Russia’s low-tech, destructive guided aerial bombs.
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General Skibitsky says he does not see a way for Ukraine to win the war on the battlefield alone. Even if it were able to push Russian forces back to the borders—an increasingly distant prospect—it wouldn’t end the war. Such wars can only end with treaties, he says.

...After that [Switzerland peace conference next month], communication with Russia may take place and Russia can be part of the talks. Because you are right: In the end, you cannot put the war to an end without both parties.

For that you would need to resuscitate the millions of Ukrainians that were starved to death by Stalin.

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[...] And this is not a war crime, but rather helping Ukraine get rid of the unwanted legacy of the USSR.

The Holodomor,[a] also known as the Ukrainian Famine,[9] was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

The dams are not damaged. Ukraine has serious problems with electricity and heat generation that cannot be solved in the foreseeable future, but the hydroelectric dams themselves on the Dnieper were not damaged, otherwise there would have been large-scale flooding of the territories. And this is not a war crime, but rather helping Ukraine get rid of the unwanted legacy of the USSR.

ps do not pollute the topic with events in Georgia, this is a topic about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Please read carefully- I said damaged. It is still a war crime as these have nil military value and this is just an attempt to make Ukrainian cities unliveable.