Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 74. (Read 60499 times)

There could be 100,000 neo-Nazis in Ukraine and it wouldn't change the problem, to be honest.

It's rather those who invade their neighbours, kill, rape and kidnap civilians who are the actual Nazis, don't you think?

And you know what's even worse than degenerate, out-of-touch Nazi leaders like your Putler? The morons who are their standard-bearers and propagandists, the morons who have been shit on by this same leader for years with corruption but who continue to kiss his ass.

Lol dude. The Azov battalion is recognized by the US Congress as neo-Nazi, extremist and anti-Semitic, parliamentarians called it a "disgusting Nazi formation", while it is quite officially part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The main national hero of Ukraine, Bandera, is a Nazi, and in honor of him, thousands of marches on Khreshchatyk were held and fifty streets were named. The universal password-greeting of Ukrainians "Glory to Ukraine, glory to the heroes" - is rooted in the far-right nationalist organization OUN and this is only a slightly modified password-greeting of the Third Reich "Heil Hitler, Sieg Heil". What more proof do you need?

- "Ukrainian F-16 training delayed" - CNN.
- "CNN spoke about the problems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the capture of Staromayorsky."
- "U.S. annoyed by Zelensky's statements and Ukraine's military decisions" - CNBC.
- "There is no breakthrough yet in Ukraine's counter-offensive" - Politico.
- "Ukraine is waiting for the Korean scenario and the freezing of the conflict, since the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not give the desired results" - Die Welt
- "The New York Times writes about the "high losses" of Ukrainian troops during the offensive in the south.".
- "Biden wants to send part of the money provided for assistance to Ukraine, to armaments for Taiwan" - Financial Times.

Western press headlines in just a few days. Assess the scale of zrada and welcome to reality. The second stage of the Ukrainian counter-offensive with redoubled efforts to break through the defenses also ended in a crushing fiasco. At least according to the leading Western media that shape public opinion.

Well, I'm glad that at least in this aspect you are already close to reality.

Or maybe corrupt politicians always find a way to gain from corruption?   
Since we know already, that Putin is weak on the battlefield, weak behind his silly, long table and he doesn't even dare to visit the frontline of his own meat grinder - let alone visiting other countries because he's paranoid, paying corrupt, far-right and far-left politicians is only what's left for him... 
In addition to bombing civillians in Ukraine, ruining his own country and Ukraine, letting his own critics visit russian windows  and spreading his braindead lies everywhere. That's all what's left to pathetic Putler and despite that, there are still pitiful people supporting him. 

I have not noticed (I have noticed the opposite).


Ukraine cannot join NATO because it has an ongoing war and because it needs to meet other criteria. But if you are hoping for US an EU to pull out you are making the same mistake as your military. BTW, not joining NATO does not mean not receiving support from allies.

Europe, US and other allies clearly understand that demilitarising Ruzzia is a very good investment and gaining Ukraine as an ally something valuable for the future.

No, I haven't noticed decline of support after watching some last military aid packages that were announced already after NATO summit. Results of NATO summit, maybe there was high expectations about it, but it ended more or less like I expected without making important decisions.

Russia always will find money to fund war machine, propaganda and opposition parties in West. And sanctions - IMO, it's joke. It would work if it would be imposed like supposed. But when it's bypased using parallel import/export through countries like Turkey, Kazkahstan or Armenia, offcourse it doesn't have as much effect as expected.

Young people. Have you ever wanted to travel the world, but couldn't afford it? You may have your chance for free, international travel in the near future... mostly to Ukraine.


As Confidence In Military Plummets, DC Swamp Calls For A Draft

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tigc40ir4PE
As new data comes out from Gallup showing a deep American crisis in confidence in the US military, a new op-ed in the Pentagon-friendly Military.com is calling for a "limited" military draft to fill the growing gaps between projected force needs and recruitment. Are they trying to grease the skids for an upcoming military conflict with Russia and China? Also today, MSNBC thug calls for new "PATRIOT Act" against MSNBC's political enemies.
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So you don't have to prove that the country is or is not fighting it. I thought we had international law and all that, but it looks that if Russians claim something is true, it is true. If Russians say that a country is threatening them, it is, there's no discussing it, right? Sounds like someone here is never wrong, knows everything and does what he wants, like a bully.

Russia, or the Soviet Union? As far as I remember they used to cut ties with their old country when it came to taking responsibility for Stalin's crimes. The favourite response of the Russian Federation was that the Soviets did that, we're a different country now, but when it comes to fighting Hitler, it was of course one and the same country that did it. Russians were quick to forget that Stalin and Hitler once went hand in hand like two love birds. There were even some nice drawings made in the early 40s.

That's an interesting point. Russia actually HAS been supporting Nato countries to some extent. But she is getting better in return. Total sanction backfire.

Haven't you noticed the decline in support for Ukraine in the West since the counter-offensive didn't go according to plan? Or has the taste of disappointment already washed off Zelensky’s lips at the results of the NATO summit in Vilnius, which left Ukraine in limbo by canceling the NATO membership plan and offering no clear entry algorithm in return?

Perhaps sanctions do not work well if Putin manages to finance the European opposition.

Exactly that. As someone from Germany I can confirm that the video is classic Russian propaganda and trying to undermine support for Ukraine in Germany by making up false claims and parroting lies. Presented are the usual Kremlin talking points, targeting a German audience but luckily, most Germans are educated and don't believe Russia's propaganda.  


As far as I know, some German researchers have identified Russian actors in the video and some scenes in Germany are animated from stock photos. Likely, it's from Russia Today or some affiliated criminals, German journalists have reported.
AfD has denied to be behind the video but AfD denying something does not mean anything.  
At least, AfD is really happy to have that video and AfD is actively spreading it on social media and their fake news network.

(Video creator exposed here (German))

AfD is our braindead fascist party, where all the idiots are gathering their fascist ideas and it's always surprising how uneducated and corrupt these right-wing politicians are.
Very likely AfD is financed by Russia (some close ties are already proven, where AfD idiots met with Russians in Russia and Eastern Ukraine to celebrate Russia).  
AfD is always trying to play down Russia's war crimes and spread hate against Ukraine.

AfD is only in Bundestag (German parliament) because some people are outright fascists or just braindead (they want to be governed by braindead people, too).
Some people don't even agree with AfD's Russia fetish but vote AfD as a protest vote.  

We have a new joke in Germany because AfD's EU candidate (Maximilian Krah) has a similar name like a cartoon character (Kra) and the cartoon character symbolizes Hitler.  

 
They are talking the same fascist bullshit, too.  
And their look is similar as well.

So, @Branko, you've disqualified yourself once again for supporting Nazis.
Maybe, Putin supporters are the fascists, not Ukrainians...  

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You are confused, obviously.  
Your braindead war criminal dictator, Putler, is actively financing fascists all over Europe, like he's financing Germany's AfD as well.  
Get your facts right, you Russian war crimes apologist.
 

It seems that this unfortunate war is also affecting those living on the Russian side of the border.
Putin definitely did not expect this situation, specially after his private mercenary army turned against him.

Perhaps, he would consider to drop this senseless war if he realizes he cannot keep it going without getting some strikes in his own soil, though, I hope innocent Russians won't perish for the decision of those in positions of political power.

I wonder if China could intervene and convince Putin that his war and ambition for power is not longer sustainable

It's good that you wrote word ''some''. According to description of video, it was made by AfD - far-right opposition party. If it would resemble majority opinion, probably they would have much more seat in Bundestage than they have now.

I have no idea why this building was attacked. There is Ministry of Industry and Trade or Ministry of Digital Development, Communications and Mass Media is located in MIBC, but it doesn't sounds like targets. There isn't even guarantee that these drones were released from territory of Ukraine, after all distance to Moscow isn't such small.
Anyway, it's fun to see Russians complaining about terrorist attacks, when their country is doing it almost on daily basis and on much higher scale. And BTW, didn't you said something similar about West turning their backs on Ukraine if they won't show significant results of counteroffensive before NATO summit?

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EDIT Something exploded in Odintsovo near to Moscow and Crimea bridge is closed because of air raid alert.

Didn't you take USA memo...its called "collateral damage"...and quite frankly (although cynical) Russians damage civilians way less than good ole USA

Oh, and regarding "war out of nowhere":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs

Nazism is an internal affair of any state, only as long as this state is actively and effectively fighting Nazism. In Ukraine, Nazism spread metastases to the broad masses and even to state authorities, so this ceased to be an internal affair of Ukraine. Do not worry, this problem is already being solved during the special operation, Russia has a very rich experience in the successful fight against Nazism.

What's denazification? How should it be done?
From what I'm seeing in this thread, you're mixing terms and using the word "nazi" to describe Ukrainian nationalists. So, you want to get rid of nationalists in Ukraine? What gives you, a foreigner, the right to interfere in their internal politics?

Last time I checked the real Nazis (Germans) attacked their neighbors, but Ukrainians were attacked. No amount of name calling will change the fact that Russians are the aggressors here.

No.It is because Russia continuously strikes civilian targets not later than yesterday killing an 10 year old girl.This is a response to Russian terror and it is only natural that Russia feels the same what Ukrainians are feeling because of Russian barbarism.The Russians claim they hit no civilian targets yet today they hit a dormitory in Kharkiv,luckily without dead persons.Russian have killed children,have made mass graves and systematically hit civilian targets in Ukrainian cities so it is only a natural response and what I find the most funny is terrorists (Russia are the true ones starting a war out of nowhere and killing civilians as a sign of desperation in the battlefield,stalled invasion) are calling the victim who tries to defend a terrorist  .

@Branko , the US clearly has ask for forgiveness although it is not worthy after the damage they have done yet they have spend billions in help rebuilding Iraq after then,not justifying them,it was a mistake and they ask for forgiveness.

He couldn't have predicted an Al-Qaeda hit on the WTC (9/11), because it didn't happen. It was a US hit on the WTC, directed by Federal Reserve Bank owners, and other world Elite... and allowed by the US government and military.

It got rid of certain banking records, allowed gold to be secretly reclaimed from Fed basement bank vaults, got a bunch of insurance money for Larry Silverstein, and managed a whole bunch of other covert government and Super Big Business operations.

The Ukraine war is doing the same kinds of things. The WTC was only a test to see what the American people would really put up with.

Did you also predict Al Quaeda hit on WTC and waited for more strikes and devastation against country which started war on Iraq out of nowhere?
And it was obviously not the end of malevolent countries

I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack.

I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty.

You enjoying the new drones that I predicted to hit Moscow just one day ago and today it was the truth.Russia how funny they are,one of their generals said some time before that hardly any sky is shielded more than that of Moscow yet drones are hitting the financial district,Russia is incapable of protecting their own citizens and the so called elite which work in that institution that was hit.Ukraine never forget any war crimes Russia has made and will make them pay as Zelensky says it is only a natural process that the war will be felt inside Russia,inside Moscow.I am waiting for more strikes and devastation against a country which started a war out of nowhere and this is the end of malevolent countries.