Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 78. (Read 59119 times)

These guys doesn't look motivated at all

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1676985238667292674/pu/vid/672x848/2hGLNKNy-woXVL8T.mp4?tag=12%20type=

Don't compare Ukraine's counteroffensive with the Bakhmut Meat Grinder. Russia could afford to advance slowly, Ukraine cannot, because time is Russia's ally and Ukraine's enemy. Zelensky is now in an extremely unenviable position between a rock and a hard place - on the one hand, quick successes are needed for the NATO summit in Vilnius, which will begin in five days, and on the other hand, Ukraine cannot now make Russia very angry, because the extension of the grain deal, which expires July 18th. Difficult choice.

I think Ukraine has finally said goodbye to dreams of cutting off the land corridor to the Crimea and reaching Melitopol. Now the most likely direction to achieve at least some success is to increase pressure in the vicinity of Bakhmut, this does not make sense from a military point of view, but the capture of Klescheevka can probably be sold to Western sponsors as a media victory. True, for this you will have to throw the most combat-ready part of the strategic reserves on the sacrificial altar, but who cares? Russia is definitely not going to attack in the Kremennaya area, everything suits it in the current configuration of the front line.

Ukraine is pushing seriously now and they are just south west of Bakhmut because I think it is a huge psychological blow if they get back it from Russians in less than 2 months this is a huge blow to Russian moral also.They are fighting in different fronts and they are making little progress every day,this shows their consistency and their perseverance in liberating as many square meters as possible and to made it free again.As Prigozhin said in its latest video before the march to Moscow that a huge amount of soldiers from Russian army and Wagner were dead for nothing,for just another star in Russian defense minister jacket,it is the motivation that dictates the victory and it is clear who have much more motivation to fight.

You two can, I disagree

Ukraine is pushing into occupied territories and freeing parts of Belgorod but it is not happening slowly if you judge this with the same criteria used for the RF army to assess their lighting invasion of Bakhmut.

On a more serious interpretation: we talk more often about what we can see and measure easily, thus we tend to look at the map and say: progress is 10 km2 today. But what we do not see is the grinding, the morale, the inability to maintain logistics... There is a lot more than it meets the eye in battlefront and a whole iceberg sitting underwater in terms of logistics, sabotage, lack of technological components, difficulties in levying more troops...

As said, the front does not collapse... until it does.

^^^ It's a good thing we have a few people who are showing us what's really going on in Ukraine... and with the war... and the world. Video included.


Colonel Douglas Macgregor Goes Full On Apocalyptic: "I Don't Think We'll Ever Get To The 2024 Election"

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https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/colonel-douglas-macgregor-goes-full
Retired US Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor, a decorated combat veteran, author of five books, a PhD, and a Defense and Foreign Policy consultant, has been covering PSYOP-UKRAINE-INVASION with uncanny accuracy and insight.

Three days ago he appeared on the PBD Podcast, and made what may just be his most dystopian prediction to date:

I don't think we'll ever get to the 2024 election.

I think things are going to implode in Washington before then.

I think our economic Financial condition is fragile - it's going to come home to roost in ugly ways.

Now I will tell you I don't know exactly how it will happen, but I think we're going to end up in a situation where we find out the banks are closed for two or three weeks, and nobody can get into them.

I think we're going to run into something like that.

I also think that the levels of violence and criminality in our cities is so high that it's going to spill over into other places in society.

People that normally think they can live remote from the problem are now beginning to be touched by the problem.

Then I look at this thing in Ukraine.

I think Ukraine is going to lose catastrophically - it's going to be a complete collapse and that too is going to have an effect here at home because people are going to say, well, wait a minute everybody told us Ukraine was winning, everybody told us X Y and Z.

I mean sort of the the Russian hoax on steroids.

All of those things are going to come together or converge in some way that's going to prevent us from reaching you know the status quo. Oh. another election... Oh, another set of campaigns... And so forth...
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Great, I'm happy we can agree that Ukrainians are slowly pushing into the occupied territories.

Oh, a "constructive" conversation. You can have a look at Andrew Perpetua maps, tend to be accurate and any pro-RF mapper of your choice. You will see some discrepancies, but one thing is clear: Ukraine is able to advance.

On the F-16, nothing will be all-right, it will only be better. It is a decent plane (particularly the modernised versions) and carries a ton of payload. You could potentially have Air to Ground, HARM, Air to Air, GBUs and a long range missile all loaded in a mission. The radar is also decent. The caveat is that the Su35 seems to have some detection advantage... depending on who would you like to believe of course.

But... and here comes the fun, the f16 can carry and shoot with a high likelihood of success long range Air to Air (really nasty and quick beasts). So... sorry for those Su35 that get with 100 miles of the front.


But let's talk strategy and not tactics: My guess is that passing f16s to Ukraine is a carefully calculated move by the US. As one of my favourite bloggers said, "this is like a competition in which each side keeps throwing 100 dollar bills to a fire and the side that keeps for longer gains an advantage". If Ukraine has f16s on the air, the RF needs to keep Su35s / Mig 31s in the air. You would not believe how ridiculously low flight hours fighter jets can do before going to a massive refurb or directly to the scrapyard, how costly is to keep them running and how they stretch the logistics.

This is a weapon that can potentially "demilitarise" the RF "Aerospatial" forces.

I hope this provides some insight on why f16s and why from the US, instead of other options.

Its only logical, because they're equally reliable

Let me guess, if someone gives you links to ISW/liveuamap/Deep State maps you'll call it Western propaganda and demand Konashenkov-approved maps?

The song Ukrainians are singing... from James Bond - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwLXDv6jXr4 - Matt Monro vocalizing.

There are recent news of a re-cycling of Israeli Merkava MBTs.  This is fat and ugly main battletank developed by Israel in several versions since late 70's to the latest version (uglier, fatter and more frightening) versions as recently as 2023.

According to some sources up to 200 of these tanks are going to be bought by an "undisclosed European buyer". Now, this tanks is not ideal for Ukraine because is the heaviest out there, so I am thinking if some other country could exchange these for their old soviet era stuff and pass these to Ukraine, or maybe Ukraine would rather have 200 Merkava III for themselves, which are readily available.

I would not like to be the undersupplied Rusky soldier finding out in the battlefield.



Edited --- Apparently one of the two countries buying is Cyprus. Cyprus has a number of T-80s that may find way to Ukraine.

If the US went into REAL action against Russia, Russia would be hard pressed to survive. But the US keeps diddling around with silliness, like the sanctions. That's why the US is failing in Ukraine.



Biden's Weaponizing the Dollar Against Russia Has Backfired

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https://discernreport.com/bidens-weaponizing-the-dollar-against-russia-has-backfired/
It's telling that during World War II, neither the United States nor the United Kingdom—when the British pound sterling was the world's reserve currency—ever considered weaponizing their currencies against Germany, Japan, or Italy. But wiser heads were running the allied nations then.

But President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, along with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, did exactly that. And they lost.  In the immediate aftermath of the Russian invasion, the ruble fell, as expected. But then for much of last year, the ruble actually gained strength relative to the dollar—stronger than it had been before the invasion!

It has only declined again since the winter, after Russian battlefield setbacks in the Donbas and the mutiny of the Russian mercenary Wagner Group.

Far worse, though, is that Biden's reckless foreign policy failure has damaged—perhaps irrevocably—the status of the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency.

Hitting the USA Like a Ton of BRICS

In August, the BRICS countries—Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa—will meet in Johannesburg, South Africa, and "de-dollarizing" the global economy is on the summit agenda. While nobody expects the dollar to be displaced anytime soon, the rise of digital currencies—and particularly CBDCs, central bank digital currencies—will make it much easier to bypass U.S. Treasury and SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication sanctions, the incumbent means of transferring funds globally) sanctions.
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Let's conduct a dialogue in a more substantive way, without slipping into propaganda slogans. Where exactly can one observe "sufficient advance" of Ukraine, in which particular sectors of the front? What scale do I need to look at the maps to notice the progress of Ukraine?

I understand that you are more passionate about your crystal ball and wet fantasies in the style of "how everything will be fine when the West gives F16 and long-range missiles", but let's somehow get back closer to reality.

 I would tag the words of the American government and every other country who claims their support is with Ukraine as a  "behind the scenes blabbing " because if they really wanted to end the war between Ukraine and Russia they all knew what to do. Believe me that when Russia finally launches to an attack on the provinces of Ukraine none of those countries will raise a  single finger against Russia.

My take NATO, U.S. and the rest who says they support Ukraine should openly aid them with all physical support and not support on media .

There is sufficient advance and the tactical situation has been much improved in several locations along the front. If you prefer going for "there is no progress" to "the progress is not sufficient" to then "the progress is not tactically important" in three posts... well that speaks for itself.

Ukraine is doing a very difficult thing: using combined weapons approach without the right combined weapons.  They are in obvious need of better air detection, drone protections and certainly a squadron of f16 (Gripen does not seem to be coming).

The strategy is nothing special... hit logistics at the back, create the widest front possible, push in several directions, look for the "easiest" way of advancing and keep the pressure so that the RF is not able to move troops freely from one front section to another. In my view, Ukraine would need better air capabilities, better drone defence and of these, it may get some jets and some enhanced strike capability if ATACAMS are supplied.

Other than that, fronts do not collapse... until they do. This way of fighting resembles much more a Phalanx / Hoplites battle than anything else. Both sides have good defence and push each other... until one side leaves a hole or is attacked on the flanks, the line spreads and gets thinner... 20 minutes later you got 5000 guys running back to Moscow Thebes.

Same old... spread the front, rotate, damage logistics and in one of the rounds it just may happen that you hit that undersupplied, demoralised and thinned brigade that decides that is not worth dying for Putin.

At a simple word from Vlad - a simple nod of the head - and Belarus will take Kiev out. The war will be done, except for rounding up the few Ukraine rebel militants.

I would love to see them try again. Now, every reservist, TO household has a few Javelins... Russians would be slaughtered right after they cross the border.

Russians are hell-bent on dying so let's go Vlad.

They cannot move any forces from the southern front. Quite the opposite, they have to constantly replace the losses with
freshly mobilized and convicts.

They would need at least 1M army to storm the northern border in order to be able to reach Kyiv and another 1M+ to take it.

That would be a massive undertaking, not impossible, but it would take years to prepare such a campaign.

Otherwise, they risk losing millions of men.

I thought the Russian public would start questioning this war at around 200,000 KIA, but I was wrong.

This will go on until the Russians decide they've had enough, or until they realize that the ruins are not worth it.

Does anyone think that Crimea, Luhansk, or Donbas will be safe even with the current front line? Ukrainians will be
hitting it preventing the Russian army from exercising full control over that area.
It is just a waste of money and human resources, IMHO.

Russians, kill the old man and move on.

Time for Russia to end the war by taking Kiev. It's only about 60 miles from the Belarus border, and the Ukrainian troops are 400 miles away. See the article here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62498236, plus below.


Military experts insist Ukraine’s counteroffensive is not failing, “just off to a slow start” – tell that to the Marines

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-07-02-military-experts-insist-ukraine-counteroffensive-isnt-failing.html
Military experts insist that Ukraine's much-anticipated offensive is not failing, claiming that it is "way too early" to be drawing conclusions about the success or failure of Kyiv's renewed push to retake territories.

Kyiv has launched one of its largest military operations since the start of the war. But now, even Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is acknowledging that this offensive is going "slower than expected."

"It's just getting underway," said retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, who formerly served as the commanding general of United States Army Europe, in an interview with Business Insider. "Most of Ukraine's army is not even in the fight yet."

Official sources claim that Ukraine is still in the initial phase of its most recent ground operations, which are focused on collecting information and confirming intelligence that offers insight into the enemy's objectives.

"The offensive has started, but not the main attack," claimed retired Australian Army Maj. Gen. Mick Ryan. He added that the Ukrainians have taken a broad front approach to the conflict, scanning the front lines and trying to find penetrable places to attempt to break through the Russian defenses.

"When they find it, they'll do it," he said. "They only have to create one significant breakthrough to cause all kinds of problems for the Russians."

Ukraine working hard to counter Moscow's messaging about "failed" counteroffensive
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All the achievements of Ukraine in the framework of the current counter-offensive are forest plantations in the "gray" zone and several villages on the Vremievsky ledge without confident control. Maybe there are some achievements in the Antonovsky Bridge area, because you have repeatedly mentioned Ukraine's activity in this direction? No, there is also a fiasco. There is not a single occupied height in the Bakhmut area for a month. There are attempts to organize pressure along the entire front line, and nowhere is it successful.

At the same time, Ukraine's tactics are very strange - a quick approach of assault infantry in armored vehicles to the line of contact and attempts to engage in close combat. Are you seriously? In almost a year and a half of the conflict, Ukraine has never achieved significant success in close combat against Russia. These are obviously failed attempts.

False, there are settlements captured in several sections of the front and a total of 40 km2 south and north of Bakhmut, 138 km2 south Velyka Novosilka and more than 100 km2 north of Robotyne. This is the equivalent of one year of RF fighting in a few weeks. If you measure progress with the same standards that you measure the old RF advances, Ukraine is going top speed.

Peace negotiations with territorial gains for RF ... I do not see that happening under Biden. Nor probably under any US president that understands what happens next if the RF "looks victorious".

Oh... glad to know that you consider the CIA as a trustworthy source... I hope your handlers do too but the article says...