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legendary
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February 16, 2024, 03:03:38 PM
It's interesting that Carlson asked during the interview with Putin if they're going to release Navalny and a few days later the man suddenly died. Coincidence? Probably the same coincidence as Prigozhin's plane falling out of the sky Wink
Russia is a totalitarian regime where you get poisoned, sent to prison and murdered for opposing the leader, and you can even get hit with a missile if you misbehave.

It's also interesting how hard it is to have a job in the army when you're a Russian commander. The Black Sea fleet lost its commanding officer because a ship was struck by a drone and sunk. Pretty much the same situation as we had with Moskva, where a commander was removed from his position when a ship got hit with a missile. They put another man in the chair, 2 ships were sunk by drones a matter of weeks and the commander was relieved.
legendary
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February 16, 2024, 01:31:11 PM
Navalny has died in the artic "strict regime" prison he was sent. A mafia state using mafia methods.
Since he returned to Russia in 2021 (still don't understand why he returned). This time they didn't used Novichok to poison or didn't shot by the walls of Kremlin like they did with Nemtsov, but it's less cynical way to kill opponent. It's another sign that in Russia there can't by any signs of opposition.
It's a bit strange to see both Z-patriots and Ukrainians celebrating these news. But you know history of Navalny statements like this one https://twitter.com/InformNapalm/status/1734252973658620330  or this https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/crimea-not-a-sandwich-and-ukraine-within-1708099375.html you understand that for Ukrainians he was just another Russian nationalist and they didn't idolised him like some in West did.

Russia simply did what the people of the US should have done long ago. If they had, they wouldn't be having so much trouble today.

In the below article, does Ukraine really have a military intelligence agency?


Russian Army Now Using Musk's Starlink On Front Lines, Ukraine Says



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-army-now-using-musks-starlink-front-lines-ukraine-says
Ukraine's military intelligence agency on Sunday said it had intercepted radio traffic that confirms Russia's use of the terminals, which provide broadband internet access via a constellation of low-orbit satellites. "Yes, there have been recorded cases of the Russian occupiers using these devices," Ukrainian intelligence officer Andriy Yusov told RBC-Ukraine. "This is starting to take on a systemic nature."

Starlink, a product of Elon Musk's SpaceX, has been used by the Ukrainian military since Musk enabled the service in the country soon after Russia invaded in 2022. It's been considered a strategic advantage for Ukraine, which has used the high-speed service for secure communication and for running targeting and other military software.

On Friday, Defense One was first to report on the development. In addition to insights from Ukrainian sources, the report included a screenshot from Ukrainian drone video that seems to show the distinctive profile of a Starlink terminal on a targeted Russian position. 

Meanwhile, KatyaVayla, a Russian volunteer group based in the contested Donbas region, posted a video on Telegram in which it proudly displayed five Starlink terminals it procured for the Russian military:
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legendary
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February 16, 2024, 11:34:34 AM
Navalny has died in the artic "strict regime" prison he was sent. A mafia state using mafia methods.
Since he returned to Russia in 2021 (still don't understand why he returned). This time they didn't used Novichok to poison or didn't shot by the walls of Kremlin like they did with Nemtsov, but it's less cynical way to kill opponent. It's another sign that in Russia there can't by any signs of opposition.
It's a bit strange to see both Z-patriots and Ukrainians celebrating these news. But you know history of Navalny statements like this one https://twitter.com/InformNapalm/status/1734252973658620330  or this https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/crimea-not-a-sandwich-and-ukraine-within-1708099375.html you understand that for Ukrainians he was just another Russian nationalist and they didn't idolised him like some in West did.
legendary
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February 16, 2024, 07:59:01 AM
Navalny has died in the artic "strict regime" prison he was sent. A mafia state using mafia methods.

From what I hear, the Ziocons sent the Azov Nazis (called '3rd assault brigade' in the polite mainstream media circles) into Avdivka.  Probably with the fondest hopes that their swastika tattooed skin would disappear into worm-dirt.  Anyway, the Azov bullet-stopper guys took one look at the situation and tried to make tracks in the Westward direction.  Fast!  But it was bad timing because the Russians basically closed the door.

I cannot shake the feeling that there is a little more coordination between Zelenski('s handlers) and Putin than meets the eye.



This is the co-founder of the Wagner Group of Mercenaries. Firstly notice that Wagner is a chosen icon for Hitler and German Nazis. Second notice the Nazi tattoos all over the guy. Thirdly notice that Putin is absolutely fine with Nazis, as long as they are his Nazis. This has never ever been an ideological war in that sense.



Perhaps you can try scrubbing those.

While you keep parroting the old wasted propaganda other conspiracy theories, tens of Ruzzian sailors have become seafood and another ship that takes years to build has become a coralline habitat.

https://youtu.be/Aev3Iya5HPg?t=11

As I said before, Putin is forcibly buying Ukrainian land at Manhattan prices. I understand he probably does not care much on this, but next year there are clear plans to attack installations around Moscow and St. Petersburg. That will hurt.

legendary
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February 16, 2024, 01:18:21 AM
From what I hear, the Ziocons sent the Azov Nazis (called '3rd assault brigade' in the polite mainstream media circles) into Avdivka.  Probably with the fondest hopes that their swastika tattooed skin would disappear into worm-dirt.  Anyway, the Azov bullet-stopper guys took one look at the situation and tried to make tracks in the Westward direction.  Fast!  But it was bad timing because the Russians basically closed the door.

I cannot shake the feeling that there is a little more coordination between Zelenski('s handlers) and Putin than meets the eye.

legendary
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February 15, 2024, 06:53:40 PM
Ukraine has destroyed another Ruzzian landing ship using marine drones - this is the fourth one. These ships are specially apt to carry supplies as they are able to carry a good chunk of troops and armour and do not require unloading in a port. These are massively used to carry weapon supplies. Minus one now and only two left to go. I give them one year, along with their crews of 87 each. - do not die for Putin, every sailor on those ships knows they will be seafood... just run and never look back.

Recently, news emerged that after the conflict with Russia entered its third year, the Ukrainian Parliament was preparing amendments to the mobilization law due to the decline in the number of volunteer soldiers. In this context, on February 7, the Ukrainian Parliament approved the first draft of a draft law imposing stricter laws to mobilize new recruits to perform military duty. The draft proposed freezing the bank accounts of young citizens who are trying to evade participation in the raging war the country is fighting against Russia.
https://www.cryptonews.net/news/finance/28531315/


When the Ukrainian Parliament imposes the freezing of the accounts of young citizens, this, firstly, cannot encourage young people to join the army, and they may even increase their hatred for their government, and secondly, it will have serious consequences on the financial economy, since these young people will stop using their accounts and thus Less resources for the state. Or this could be an excuse to illegally acquire assets. This, of course, depends on the value of the assets that will be confiscated according to the freezing process.
The most important thing that can be concluded from these measures is that Ukraine is going through strategic difficulties in its war against Russia and that its external support is unable to achieve an equal war budget. The state of disobedience to join the army also exists in Russia, but the rates differ given the population of both countries.

Since the beginning of the war, there has been no urgent need for Ukrainians to deal with crypto, given that banking services have not been interrupted and people can use their financial accounts smoothly despite the war policies. However, this measure may be a factor of transformation in the general financial orientation of citizens who now have justification for turning to alternatives. About the banking system. Of course, crypto will be the safest, most secure and private choice.

The mobilisation aims to get more people into the Ukrainian army, however there is finer point to it: to be able to limit the service to a period of time. As of now, you join the army for whatever it takes to reach peace. That is a situation that most Ukrainians cannot and will not accept, as it is life-sentence or the like. However, as more people are eligible for draft, it is possible to limit the service to one, two or three years and also improve the training, as they will have more time for it.

Ukrainians that do not wish to fight have already left the country. Like hundreds of thousands of Ruzzians.
legendary
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February 14, 2024, 07:45:09 PM
Recently, news emerged that after the conflict with Russia entered its third year,

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Third year?!

Even the US admits the war started in 2014 with Ukraine attacking Russians.

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February 14, 2024, 06:42:10 PM
Recently, news emerged that after the conflict with Russia entered its third year, the Ukrainian Parliament was preparing amendments to the mobilization law due to the decline in the number of volunteer soldiers. In this context, on February 7, the Ukrainian Parliament approved the first draft of a draft law imposing stricter laws to mobilize new recruits to perform military duty. The draft proposed freezing the bank accounts of young citizens who are trying to evade participation in the raging war the country is fighting against Russia.
https://www.cryptonews.net/news/finance/28531315/


When the Ukrainian Parliament imposes the freezing of the accounts of young citizens, this, firstly, cannot encourage young people to join the army, and they may even increase their hatred for their government, and secondly, it will have serious consequences on the financial economy, since these young people will stop using their accounts and thus Less resources for the state. Or this could be an excuse to illegally acquire assets. This, of course, depends on the value of the assets that will be confiscated according to the freezing process.
The most important thing that can be concluded from these measures is that Ukraine is going through strategic difficulties in its war against Russia and that its external support is unable to achieve an equal war budget. The state of disobedience to join the army also exists in Russia, but the rates differ given the population of both countries.

Since the beginning of the war, there has been no urgent need for Ukrainians to deal with crypto, given that banking services have not been interrupted and people can use their financial accounts smoothly despite the war policies. However, this measure may be a factor of transformation in the general financial orientation of citizens who now have justification for turning to alternatives. About the banking system. Of course, crypto will be the safest, most secure and private choice.
legendary
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February 14, 2024, 03:29:47 PM
All the magical thinking in the world won't save Ukraine.

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legendary
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February 14, 2024, 01:20:11 PM
Not everyone is aware of this, but there is a nuclear bunker just near Avdiika, just in the south. Possible the stiffest ever point of resistance other than the industrial complex of Mariupol.
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I don't remember Mariupol being too big a deal although it was played up a fair bit.  IIRC, the Russians sat on them for a week or two and a fountain of swastikas poured forth from the ground.

I have never seen such a poor attempt at faking. Two clicks away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol

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The siege of Mariupol began on 24 February 2022 and lasted until 20 May,

Bad troll, bad bad troll!

As of today it seems that there is plenty of smoke over Moscow, at first if looked like an oil terminal, but - unconfirmed but likely - seems to be a production facility for military airplanes. There will be more news about it.

It seems that the price of real state in Avdiivka is reaching new heights for Ruzzia. They could have bought the Trump empire instead of gettting Avdiivka - Not that I am saying they have not yet done it.

Yeah, that's about what I remember.  ZioNazi's lost their human shields and about 8 days later 2500 of them gave up rather than fighting.

I guess that when the enemy is planning to kill the entire population including all men, women, and children then it makes sense to fight like a Gazan.  If you are just some swastika tattoo'd Nazi being led by Ziocons who are trying to de-Slav your country to make room for more of their type, might as well give up and hope you get your freedom in a prisoner swap of some sort.

Anyway, the DPR and the Russians have Mariupol looking pretty good these days.  I'm happy for the civilians who survived the zionazi snipers and human shield operations and such.

  Mariupol - then and now.
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/3sROjld5Qu7o/

legendary
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February 14, 2024, 11:07:14 AM
Biden and his cronies want to kill more Ukrainians. And it's all for nothing since Ukraine has already lost, big time.


The Biden-Schumer Plan To Kill More Ukrainians



https://original.antiwar.com/Jeffrey_Sachs/2024/02/12/the-biden-schumer-plan-to-kill-more-ukrainians/
President Joe Biden is refusing to fold a losing hand as he bets with Ukrainian lives and U.S. taxpayer money. Biden and Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer propose to squander the lives of tens of thousands more Ukrainians and $61 billions of federal funds to keep Biden's disastrous foreign policy failure hidden from view until after the November election.

The $61 billion will make no difference on the battlefield except to prolong the war, the tens of thousands of deaths, and the physical destruction of Ukraine. It will not "save" Ukraine. Ukraine's security can only be achieved at the negotiating table, not by some fantasized military triumph over Russia.

$61 billion is not nothing. This worse-than-useless outlay would exceed the combined budgets of the U.S. Department of Labor, Environmental Protection Agency, National Science Foundation, and the Women, Infant, and Children nutrition program.

Almost exactly 10 years ago this month, Biden did much to put Ukraine on the path to disaster. This is well known to those who have looked carefully at the facts but is kept hidden from view by the White House, the Senate Democrats, and the mainstream media that back Biden. I have previously provided a detailed chronology, with hyperlinks, here.

In 1990, President George H. W. Bush, Sr. and his German counterpart Chancellor Helmut Kohl promised Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward if the Soviet Union accepted German reunification. When the Soviet Union disbanded in December 1991, with Russia as the successor state, American leaders decided to renege.
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legendary
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February 14, 2024, 03:35:16 AM
Not everyone is aware of this, but there is a nuclear bunker just near Avdiika, just in the south. Possible the stiffest ever point of resistance other than the industrial complex of Mariupol.
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I don't remember Mariupol being too big a deal although it was played up a fair bit.  IIRC, the Russians sat on them for a week or two and a fountain of swastikas poured forth from the ground.




I have never seen such a poor attempt at faking. Two clicks away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol

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The siege of Mariupol began on 24 February 2022 and lasted until 20 May,


Bad troll, bad bad troll!

As of today it seems that there is plenty of smoke over Moscow, at first if looked like an oil terminal, but - unconfirmed but likely - seems to be a production facility for military airplanes. There will be more news about it.

It seems that the price of real state in Avdiivka is reaching new heights for Ruzzia. They could have bought the Trump empire instead of gettting Avdiivka - Not that I am saying they have not yet done it.
legendary
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February 13, 2024, 07:15:36 PM
Not everyone is aware of this, but there is a nuclear bunker just near Avdiika, just in the south. Possible the stiffest ever point of resistance other than the industrial complex of Mariupol.
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I don't remember Mariupol being too big a deal although it was played up a fair bit.  IIRC, the Russians sat on them for a week or two and a fountain of swastikas poured forth from the ground.

legendary
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February 13, 2024, 06:39:10 PM
Not everyone is aware of this, but there is a nuclear bunker just near Avdiika, just in the south. Possible the stiffest ever point of resistance other than the industrial complex of Mariupol.

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If Zenit falls, Avdiivka might fall, too—forcing the Ukrainian garrison to retreat after a decade of stiff resistance. On Monday, Russian troops came closer than ever to cutting off Zenit with its labyrinth of concrete strongpoints. They failed. But they might not fail next time—because Zenit’s defenders are running out of ammunition.

My guess is that the new chief of the Ukrainian Army is aiming to hold harder than the previous one.

On a related issue, for those that like "alternative sources"...

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M. Stéphane Séjourné, Minister for Europe and Foreign Affairs, today announced that France has detected a propaganda network called “Portal Kombat”. In order to mislead European public opinion, particularly in France, this network, made up of so-called digital information portals, spreads pro-Russian content promoting the Russian invasion in Ukraine and denigrating the Ukrainian authorities.

The detection and analysis work carried out by the VIGINUM department has allowed us to conclude that the network’s activities indeed constitute a campaign to manipulate information on digital platforms involving foreign actors, and that the campaign aims to harm France and its interests. Comprising at least 193 sites and initially covering news from Russian and Ukrainian localities, the network has developed since Russia’s war of aggression in February 2022 and has subsequently focused on the occupied Ukrainian territories and Ukraine’s supporters – including France, Germany and Poland. To amplify the manipulation by reaching a wider audience, the network uses a number of techniques such as selecting pro-Russian propaganda sources based on the targeted locality, mass automation to spread content and search-engine optimization. The technical elements that enabled the French authorities to reach these conclusions are available in the technical report published today by VIGINUM.

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/country-files/russia/news/article/foreign-digital-interference-france-detects-a-russian-propaganda-network-12-feb

You can see the complete list on page 15. BTW guess who in this forum has links to some of these? Smiley

https://www.sgdsn.gouv.fr/files/files/20240212_NP_SGDSN_VIGINUM_PORTAL-KOMBAT-NETWORK_ENG_VF.pdf
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February 09, 2024, 05:58:20 AM
Edited to add: 12/feb it seems that a refinery near Moscow caught fire today. Or has it been two!?

Zelensky has replaced Valerii Zaluzhnyi with Syrskyi. Let's see which changes in strategy this brings, within the limited options given the indecision of US and the issues with Hungary in the EU, although 50 billion in funding for 4 years has been finally unblocked. Zaluz was keen on enhancing the technology role and at this point there were probably issues around what is happening in Avdiivka.
Talks about it were coming for few recent weeks and it only looked only matter of time. Personally, I think it's not right decision, but who I'm to judge them? Still, it leaves some bad taste in mouth. It looks that main reason why Zaluzhnyi was fired was not successful counteroffensive. Zelensky wants to see progress and seems that no matter what price of it will be, that's my observation.
Syrskyi, not really sure about him, I read mixed opinions on him, some even calling him the butcher. On the other hand he was responsible for defense of Kyiv and successful Kharkiv counteroffensive.
BTW, interesting detail that he was born in Russia and graduated from Moscow Higher Military Command School. That's probably one of rare cases when person can be called as good Russian.
Fresh Russian joke:
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Gerasimov: give up, you won’t win!
Syrsky: Russians don’t give up!
Grin

I actually find the joke funny, because it has plenty of elements of truth. Syrsky did study in USSR times in the best Soviet military institution at Moscow with many of today's Ruzzian generals which is a great asset (know your enemy - Tsun Tzu's Art of War). At the same time, he needs to find the way to change the game.


However, it must be said that the financial game has changed since Ukraine has started to target oil & gas refineries and plants. By the time you post again bragging about how "Avdiivka has been gloriously taken", someone out there will value each of those square meters of ruins that Ruzzia is buying at Manhattan prices. Shall we agree on 20,000 per square meter or would you like to discuss Smiley

Zelensky has replaced Valerii Zaluzhnyi with Syrskyi. Let's see which changes in strategy this brings, within the limited options given the indecision of US and the issues with Hungary in the EU, although 50 billion in funding for 4 years has been finally unblocked. Zaluz was keen on enhancing the technology role and at this point there were probably issues around what is happening in Avdiivka.
Talks about it were coming for few recent weeks and it only looked only matter of time. Personally, I think it's not right decision, but who I'm to judge them? Still, it leaves some bad taste in mouth. It looks that main reason why Zaluzhnyi was fired was not successful counteroffensive. Zelensky wants to see progress and seems that no matter what price of it will be, that's my observation.
Syrskyi, not really sure about him, I read mixed opinions on him, some even calling him the butcher. On the other hand he was responsible for defense of Kyiv and successful Kharkiv counteroffensive.
BTW, interesting detail that he was born in Russia and graduated from Moscow Higher Military Command School. That's probably one of rare cases when person can be called as good Russian.

Many of the USSR generals, even the ones who fought the III Reich, were Ukrainian born or had Ukrainian ancestry. I hope Syrsky brings some new ideas, but above it I hope he is given the means to succeed by Europe and US - succeed to a degree at least.
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February 09, 2024, 04:38:32 AM
Zelensky has replaced Valerii Zaluzhnyi with Syrskyi. Let's see which changes in strategy this brings, within the limited options given the indecision of US and the issues with Hungary in the EU, although 50 billion in funding for 4 years has been finally unblocked. Zaluz was keen on enhancing the technology role and at this point there were probably issues around what is happening in Avdiivka.
Talks about it were coming for few recent weeks and it only looked only matter of time. Personally, I think it's not right decision, but who I'm to judge them? Still, it leaves some bad taste in mouth. It looks that main reason why Zaluzhnyi was fired was not successful counteroffensive. Zelensky wants to see progress and seems that no matter what price of it will be, that's my observation.
Syrskyi, not really sure about him, I read mixed opinions on him, some even calling him the butcher. On the other hand he was responsible for defense of Kyiv and successful Kharkiv counteroffensive.
BTW, interesting detail that he was born in Russia and graduated from Moscow Higher Military Command School. That's probably one of rare cases when person can be called as good Russian.
Fresh Russian joke:
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Gerasimov: give up, you won’t win!
Syrsky: Russians don’t give up!
Grin
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Ukraine is still continue from two years of war. They continue to show incredible resilience in the face of Russian aggression.
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky visited the frontline in the village of Robotien in southern Ukraine. During this visit on Sunday multiple explosions occurred in places comparatively close to him.

Zelensky said on social media Robotien from Zaporizhzhya region. Here is the location of the 65th Armored Brigade. I have spoken to the soldiers who are engaged in protecting the country. Thanked them and conferred the state title.

Head of Ukraine armed forces Jalujhani wants to recruit another 500,000 new soldiers for the war But Zelensky is against it. There is a dispute between the two. Zelonsky thinks that if the troops that are in Ukraine can be used properly then there is no need to hire new troops. But Jalujhani wants to take five lakh more troops.
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February 08, 2024, 03:18:27 PM
Zelensky has replaced Valerii Zaluzhnyi with Syrskyi. Let's see which changes in strategy this brings, within the limited options given the indecision of US and the issues with Hungary in the EU, although 50 billion in funding for 4 years has been finally unblocked. Zaluz was keen on enhancing the technology role and at this point there were probably issues around what is happening in Avdiivka.
Talks about it were coming for few recent weeks and it only looked only matter of time. Personally, I think it's not right decision, but who I'm to judge them? Still, it leaves some bad taste in mouth. It looks that main reason why Zaluzhnyi was fired was not successful counteroffensive. Zelensky wants to see progress and seems that no matter what price of it will be, that's my observation.
Syrskyi, not really sure about him, I read mixed opinions on him, some even calling him the butcher. On the other hand he was responsible for defense of Kyiv and successful Kharkiv counteroffensive.
BTW, interesting detail that he was born in Russia and graduated from Moscow Higher Military Command School. That's probably one of rare cases when person can be called as good Russian.
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February 08, 2024, 01:28:31 PM
Zelensky has replaced Valerii Zaluzhnyi with Syrskyi. Let's see which changes in strategy this brings, within the limited options given the indecision of US and the issues with Hungary in the EU, although 50 billion in funding for 4 years has been finally unblocked. Zaluz was keen on enhancing the technology role and at this point there were probably issues around what is happening in Avdiivka.
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February 08, 2024, 11:48:28 AM
C'mon, this dude literally said that Ukraine is aggressor who invading territory of Russia, it seems that lives in some kind of alternative reality.

Russians were oppressed in parts of Ukraine, similar to Albanians on Kosovo been oppressed by Serbia.
So, similar to Albanians, Russians in parts of Ukraine declared independence.

USA, instead bombing Ukraine like they bombed Serbia, decided to arm Ukraine so
they could oppress Russians more...is that double standard or what?

Official line propaganda again. Ruzzians and Ukranians were living peacefully, with many people speaking both languages. Putin used the usual strategy of creating a problem by financing protests and creating a situation of violence. Then sent in two army corps to invade parts of Ukraine under the excuse that there were people "oppressed".

It goes like this:
- You have a big problem because you do not know what time is it.
- Oh, really, I had not noticed anything
 - Just a second, let me break your watch.... now... you have a big problem, because you do not know what time is it.

If burning people alive because they protested peacefully is your idea of " living peacefully" then OK

This look like peaceful guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk

Poroshenko was an advocate of joining the EU and, while someone did a fantastic job of removing all context of this speech, he is clearly speaking about economy. By joining the EU and getting investment, jobs, social rights, pensions,... that is how you win over Ruzzia - and that is what Putin cannot afford of course. And that is how you really win the war, by creating a future for Ukrainians.

It looks to me that this proves that Ruzzia was financing of groups to de-stabilise the region resulting in clashes and what is in fact a proxy war from Ruzzia. BTW, this was after Ruzzia invaded Crimea.

Yes, when people use violence they may get violence in return - I am sure you know about it. I would not expect you to tell all sides of this story anyway, whoever brain-washed you did a great job.



It makes me wonder under what kind of conditions would the European countries agree on admitting Ukraine into the European Union. They obviously would rather to not accept the entry of Ukraine while they are still actively fighting the Russian army and whatever is left of the Wagner group of mercenaries. Putin may be aware we cannot allow Ukraine to take over those occupies regions again, because as soon as Ukraine managed to get all back and secure it's border, then the president of Ukraine will push forward for their entry in the European Union.
I doubt Putin would be reckless enough to attack again when Ukraine is an active member of the European Union, because that would imply a very big escalation on the conflict and going against more countries than he can afford to fight. Not even mentioning Russia's economy is several times smaller than the Economy of Italy alone, not even mention the size of the economy of Germany or the Nordic republics.
Though, I would be afraid that if Putin does not care about any of those conditions, he could unleash the third world war by attacking Ukraine again and leaving the ball on what to do on the European side of the field. He would make it see as if was the EU who sought for an escalation and not him.
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