Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 88. (Read 77192 times)

It is important and it is not in some other aspects. Territory wise, real value, what is left... that is not really valuable.

 However, it seems that Ruzzia has found a way to make an "industrial" style of war - I put 10k bodies, one ship, four irreplaceable planes, two fuel depots and refineries, 300 tanks and I get another 5 square kilometres of Ukrainian of land. Putin seems to be ok with this rate of "conversion", but it seems to me veeery expensive.

The town was an interesting strategic point for Ukraine in terms of communications, logistics, resistance,... however it is not for Ruzzia, it is just part of a "buffer" around  donesk.

If it weren't for the news today, it would have been great to hear that 3 planes have been hit. Quite dissuasive.

Oh, here we go again with shelling Dontesk for 8 years. It's strange that after such long constant shelling this city looks better than cities attacked by Russia like Avdiivka or Bakhmut. Or probably it can't even called as cities anymore as there just ruins of city remains.
Killed civilians - I'm wondering how many Ukrainian civilians were killed during 2 years of war. But offcourse, you won't see this.

I said that here several years ago.  The various deep states, including the Russian ones, will happily use 'nazis' when they are useful, and often they are.  Ukraine, under control of the Ziocons, found the nazi's in Ukraine to be numerous and useful enough to be the driving force behind the whole nation-state and with the potential to de-Slav the whole place.  I have to hand it to the ziocons in that they used this resource to great effect.

Now, if the Russians want to prove that the are not as well another group of useful idiots and tools (as they proved to be under the Bolshevik revolution), now would be the time to do it.  Putin seems to have not allowed the 'oligarchs' to totally guide the nation's policy (which is likely why he receives the treatment he does in the mainstream media.)  Hopefully the Russian people will hold his and his successor's feet to the fire and make sure that the nation doesn't experience a regression.

With China it's kind of difficult to know who is playing who.  To be sure China was built up by 'capitalist' money flowing in their direction, and probably with the intent of riding them as a horse when the West was collapsed from exhaustion and shot dead, but there are signs that the Chinese are fairly aware of how the game is played.

Missing the point totally, on purpose I assume. This person founded the Wagner Group which Putler happily uses in Africa and other places as well as during the invasion of Bakhmut. As said, Putin is ok with Nazis, as long as they are his Nazis and the invasion of Ukraine is not due to "ideological discrepancies".


Maybe Putler forgot about the guy and Tucker reminded him of the guy. It came close to incitation to murder from a certain point of view I guess.

RE commanders, well they had 6 quite useful ships that could be the plan B for a prolonged closure of the Kerch bridge. They have two now. It is honestly a good reason to send the guy to some administrative office in Kamchatka for not planning a escort of shorts.

I guess that helped them bomb civilian areas on Donetsk with Western cluster munitions and anti-personel mines.


Yeah, too bad they used all their ammo trying to kill civilians in order to win some media victories.  Win in the minds of some real degenerates at least.  Certainly not in the minds of decent people who've served in professional militaries.

The pounding these assholes are receiving in Avdiivka has been a long wait, but it's living up to my hopes.  My only regret is that the Ziocon leaders who command the Ukrainian slav forces left a month or two ago.

Ukrainian forces fully withdraw from Avdiivka. Seems that sending 3rd Assault Brigade there helped to minimize losses while leaving city and prevent from encirclement. Some public Ukrainians justifying that's not significant loss. IMO, it's bullshit. We should admit that it's painful and significant loss, same like Bakhmut. They were keeping Avdiivka from 2014, it was strong fortification and tou literally was able to see Donetsk from Avdiivka. Without lack of ammunition, probably they would be able to keep control of this city, after all, Russian losses here is probably bigger than was in Bakhmut
But there is at least some good news, Ukrainians report about 3 Russian fighter jets shot down near to Avdiivka - two Su-34 and one Su-35. Though, Russian Fighterbomber denies information about both Su-34, but confirmed Su-35.

The new chief of the Ukrainian army have announced this morning of the withdrawal of the Ukrainian army from the besiege city of avdiivka,  his reason being that it's a decision he took to prevent encirclement from the Russian arm force and to preserve the life of his soldiers. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/17/ukraine-troops-withdraw-from-frontline-city-of-avdiivka-army-chief-says

I really do think that the Ukrainian are losing more ground as the war goes by, and if they continue this way, I don't think they can actually liberate the territories held by the Russians.

Every country has at least some tiny fraction of genuine dyed-in-the-wool nazis.  So what?  Ukraine is the only country I know of who has entire brigades of them who proudly sport their nazi paraphernalia, integrate said battalions complete with their nazi symbology into their national military ranks, and worship sculptures of dead nazi leaders.

I don't particularly doubt that a (now mostly defunct) Russia-based PMC was started by a nazi, and I don't really care that much.  I'm not a Russian and I have no reason or need to go to bat for them.  In my observations, Russia (and Wagner for that matter) prosecuted the conflict with an amazingly high degree of professionalism (as did a number of German Nazi units at various times just FWIW.)  I'm happy to give credit where credit is due, but it's not my life's work.

Low-functioning people commonly mistake criticism of Ukraine with support for Russia.  It's just the way low-functioning people work, and I accept that.


You and that Denys Davydov clown on Jewtube should form a comedy duo.  Endless LOLZ.

Seems that Avdiivka is undergoing a front reshaping, basically Ukraine has to move from the eastern part of the city due to the risk of encirclement. Unfortunately, the lack of support from the allies has made impossible to hold this city. The Zenit strong point has been evacuated and troops inside the city are progressively retreating to  better positions.

This battle will be in history books about how to make the enemy pay ten times the value of a target.

But this does not mean that the Ukrainians who remain in Ukraine are ready to join the army. I am certain that most of them had no opportunity to escape either.

As I previously pointed out, there is no room for comparison between Russia and Ukraine because Russia has a larger population and can impose laws and regulations that are binding on the force of political dictatorship, in addition to resorting to fighting militias such as the Wagner group and others. While Ukraine cannot do the same thing due to its claim to adopt democratic methods, which explains why its parliament resorts to such decisions to put pressure on the youth.

According to the same logic, Russia can recruit thousands without their consent, and perhaps without rewarding compensation as well. While Ukraine relies mainly on the support of its Western allies to secure army salaries and equipment, meaning it could face difficulties once the level of support declines.

It's interesting that Carlson asked during the interview with Putin if they're going to release Navalny and a few days later the man suddenly died. Coincidence? Probably the same coincidence as Prigozhin's plane falling out of the sky
Russia is a totalitarian regime where you get poisoned, sent to prison and murdered for opposing the leader, and you can even get hit with a missile if you misbehave.

It's also interesting how hard it is to have a job in the army when you're a Russian commander. The Black Sea fleet lost its commanding officer because a ship was struck by a drone and sunk. Pretty much the same situation as we had with Moskva, where a commander was removed from his position when a ship got hit with a missile. They put another man in the chair, 2 ships were sunk by drones a matter of weeks and the commander was relieved.

Russia simply did what the people of the US should have done long ago. If they had, they wouldn't be having so much trouble today.

In the below article, does Ukraine really have a military intelligence agency?


Russian Army Now Using Musk's Starlink On Front Lines, Ukraine Says

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-army-now-using-musks-starlink-front-lines-ukraine-says
Ukraine's military intelligence agency on Sunday said it had intercepted radio traffic that confirms Russia's use of the terminals, which provide broadband internet access via a constellation of low-orbit satellites. "Yes, there have been recorded cases of the Russian occupiers using these devices," Ukrainian intelligence officer Andriy Yusov told RBC-Ukraine. "This is starting to take on a systemic nature."

Starlink, a product of Elon Musk's SpaceX, has been used by the Ukrainian military since Musk enabled the service in the country soon after Russia invaded in 2022. It's been considered a strategic advantage for Ukraine, which has used the high-speed service for secure communication and for running targeting and other military software.

On Friday, Defense One was first to report on the development. In addition to insights from Ukrainian sources, the report included a screenshot from Ukrainian drone video that seems to show the distinctive profile of a Starlink terminal on a targeted Russian position. 

Meanwhile, KatyaVayla, a Russian volunteer group based in the contested Donbas region, posted a video on Telegram in which it proudly displayed five Starlink terminals it procured for the Russian military:
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Since he returned to Russia in 2021 (still don't understand why he returned). This time they didn't used Novichok to poison or didn't shot by the walls of Kremlin like they did with Nemtsov, but it's less cynical way to kill opponent. It's another sign that in Russia there can't by any signs of opposition.
It's a bit strange to see both Z-patriots and Ukrainians celebrating these news. But you know history of Navalny statements like this one https://twitter.com/InformNapalm/status/1734252973658620330  or this https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/crimea-not-a-sandwich-and-ukraine-within-1708099375.html you understand that for Ukrainians he was just another Russian nationalist and they didn't idolised him like some in West did.

Navalny has died in the artic "strict regime" prison he was sent. A mafia state using mafia methods.


This is the co-founder of the Wagner Group of Mercenaries. Firstly notice that Wagner is a chosen icon for Hitler and German Nazis. Second notice the Nazi tattoos all over the guy. Thirdly notice that Putin is absolutely fine with Nazis, as long as they are his Nazis. This has never ever been an ideological war in that sense.



Perhaps you can try scrubbing those.

While you keep parroting the old wasted propaganda other conspiracy theories, tens of Ruzzian sailors have become seafood and another ship that takes years to build has become a coralline habitat.

https://youtu.be/Aev3Iya5HPg?t=11

As I said before, Putin is forcibly buying Ukrainian land at Manhattan prices. I understand he probably does not care much on this, but next year there are clear plans to attack installations around Moscow and St. Petersburg. That will hurt.

From what I hear, the Ziocons sent the Azov Nazis (called '3rd assault brigade' in the polite mainstream media circles) into Avdivka.  Probably with the fondest hopes that their swastika tattooed skin would disappear into worm-dirt.  Anyway, the Azov bullet-stopper guys took one look at the situation and tried to make tracks in the Westward direction.  Fast!  But it was bad timing because the Russians basically closed the door.

I cannot shake the feeling that there is a little more coordination between Zelenski('s handlers) and Putin than meets the eye.

Ukraine has destroyed another Ruzzian landing ship using marine drones - this is the fourth one. These ships are specially apt to carry supplies as they are able to carry a good chunk of troops and armour and do not require unloading in a port. These are massively used to carry weapon supplies. Minus one now and only two left to go. I give them one year, along with their crews of 87 each. - do not die for Putin, every sailor on those ships knows they will be seafood... just run and never look back.


The mobilisation aims to get more people into the Ukrainian army, however there is finer point to it: to be able to limit the service to a period of time. As of now, you join the army for whatever it takes to reach peace. That is a situation that most Ukrainians cannot and will not accept, as it is life-sentence or the like. However, as more people are eligible for draft, it is possible to limit the service to one, two or three years and also improve the training, as they will have more time for it.

Ukrainians that do not wish to fight have already left the country. Like hundreds of thousands of Ruzzians.

Third year?!

Even the US admits the war started in 2014 with Ukraine attacking Russians.

Recently, news emerged that after the conflict with Russia entered its third year, the Ukrainian Parliament was preparing amendments to the mobilization law due to the decline in the number of volunteer soldiers. In this context, on February 7, the Ukrainian Parliament approved the first draft of a draft law imposing stricter laws to mobilize new recruits to perform military duty. The draft proposed freezing the bank accounts of young citizens who are trying to evade participation in the raging war the country is fighting against Russia.
https://www.cryptonews.net/news/finance/28531315/


When the Ukrainian Parliament imposes the freezing of the accounts of young citizens, this, firstly, cannot encourage young people to join the army, and they may even increase their hatred for their government, and secondly, it will have serious consequences on the financial economy, since these young people will stop using their accounts and thus Less resources for the state. Or this could be an excuse to illegally acquire assets. This, of course, depends on the value of the assets that will be confiscated according to the freezing process.
The most important thing that can be concluded from these measures is that Ukraine is going through strategic difficulties in its war against Russia and that its external support is unable to achieve an equal war budget. The state of disobedience to join the army also exists in Russia, but the rates differ given the population of both countries.

Since the beginning of the war, there has been no urgent need for Ukrainians to deal with crypto, given that banking services have not been interrupted and people can use their financial accounts smoothly despite the war policies. However, this measure may be a factor of transformation in the general financial orientation of citizens who now have justification for turning to alternatives. About the banking system. Of course, crypto will be the safest, most secure and private choice.

All the magical thinking in the world won't save Ukraine.

Yeah, that's about what I remember.  ZioNazi's lost their human shields and about 8 days later 2500 of them gave up rather than fighting.

I guess that when the enemy is planning to kill the entire population including all men, women, and children then it makes sense to fight like a Gazan.  If you are just some swastika tattoo'd Nazi being led by Ziocons who are trying to de-Slav your country to make room for more of their type, might as well give up and hope you get your freedom in a prisoner swap of some sort.

Anyway, the DPR and the Russians have Mariupol looking pretty good these days.  I'm happy for the civilians who survived the zionazi snipers and human shield operations and such.

  Mariupol - then and now.
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/3sROjld5Qu7o/