Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 99. (Read 77288 times)

Doesn't change the fact about first two batches

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-send-leopard-tanks-ukraine-russia-war-rheinmetall/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-approves-sending-heavy-leopard-tanks-ukraine-2023-01-25/

and obvious message they intended to send

https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88

https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/14

It seems you are again wishful thinking. Why would Russians get tired?

Moscow’s monthly income from oil exports is greater now than before the invasion of Ukraine, highlighting the failure of measures to curb its war chest

In fact the reason why Putin is still there is because he is being careful not to touch the pensioners and most of the inhabitants of the larger, more influential cities. So handouts out and in are the go-to tools.

There are a number of polls that show that Ruzzians (not the "subjects" as Be calls anyone not Ruzzian) are actually tired and in favour of a peaceful solution. However these same people consider that it is not acceptable to give back any of the stolen Ukrainian land. Interesting how they understand the concept of peace.

Also interesting why they decided to use an expensive aircraft in good condition to serve as a marine habitat near Snake Island. Must be Eastern culture thing.


You have wrong, 14 is A (first letter) and 8 is (H) 8th letter for Aldolf Hitler. But where I come from, five year old know that.

Branko, do you realize that if they send two more tanks your theory would be wrong? I mean, it is wrong, is just that is also in an state of unstable equilibrium.

Germany sent

14 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine
88 Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine

“14” - Words is a reference to the white supremacist slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”
“88” - is the NeoNazi numerical code for “Heil Hitler”

You know a lot about false accusations; for me personally this is not news.

It seems that the word “denazification” in relation to Ukraine especially touches a nerve with you, but among the goals of Russia’s special military operation this is not the main thing, “demilitarization” has higher priority, and the neutral non-aligned military status of Ukraine is the most important thing that Russia wants from Ukraine. And of course this goal will be achieved.

In the case of geographically close countries in different weight categories, this works like gravity - you cannot just decide to choose a different source of influence, this will inevitably have consequences.

Nothing to do with what I said.


It seems to be news to you that Kremlin is lying most of the time, including about how they're pissing away your country for no reason other than misplaced ambitions of a deranged gnome. Or you know it and just don't care.


Except western media didn't invade Ukraine so that they could justify killing Ukrainians by calling them "nazis".


LOL behold geopolitical expert again trying to make it sound as if Kremlin never tried to bribe western politicians or even entire countries with petrodollars and cheap gas... still not able to connect the dots on why this brilliant strategy didn't work though.

Careful, can't have that. Russia and China are now on to this game. Look at the  Belt and Road Initiative. Russia just needs to buy out the weakest link, like bringing cookies to Hungary to buy their loyalty and veto and then what? Or China might want to make financial incentives for Mexico that they just cannot refuse, not even mentioning Cuba again. Buying loyalty with cookies would mean that all smaller countries would just go under the sphere of a highest bidder, and Cuban crisis taught us that US won't let that happen. Need to think of some good old American exceptionalism for financial expansionism, something like only government officials from countries that have letters "meric" in their name can bring cookies to other countries, that should do it.

Imagine Russian diplomat doing this in Hungary, or handing out subscriptions for free unlimited Russian gas for one year in Slovakia/Germany/Denmark..., imagine the queues of people lining up

It's too bad. But what can you say? Ukraine had a thousand chances to surrender, or not even provoke the Bear in the first place. Now they will have to accept Russian domination the hard way. Of course, the remaining Ukrainians could always drop Ukraine, and immigrate elsewhere (if they start now and are fast enough), like other Ukrainian citizens have been doing for the last couple of years.


Ukrainian frontlines are COLLAPSING, Russian forces ADVANCING on all fronts

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-12-05-ukrainian-frontlines-collapsing-russia-advancing-all-fronts.html
Russia reported on Friday, Dec. 1, that its troops have made significant advances in every section of the Ukrainian frontlines.

The frontlines in Russia's special military operation in Ukraine have barely shifted in 2023, despite a massively publicized Ukrainian counteroffensive earlier this year. (Related: Russia inflicting HEAVY DAMAGE against Ukrainian Air Force using innovative long-range air-to-air missile.)

But fighting in the country has remained intense, and now Russian sources are reporting that the Russian Armed Forces have advanced into "more favorable positions."

"Our servicemen are acting competently and decisively, occupying a more favorable position and expanding their zones of control in all directions," said Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu on Friday during a briefing with top Russian military personnel.

Shoigu added that Russian forces in Ukraine are "effectively and firmly inflicting fire damage on the Ukrainian Armed Forces," and noted that Ukraine's combat capabilities were "significantly reduced" following its counteroffensive earlier this year.

Ukraine's counteroffensive launched in June after months of highly publicized preparations has stalled in Ukraine's southern and southeastern fronts without significant progress. This is despite massive shipments of Western weapons and training by Western advisors for Ukrainian troops. Hopes for a breakthrough are fading as winter draws near, making significant military movements problematic.

To support Russian gains, President Vladimir Putin issued a decree to boost troop numbers by as much as 15 percent, or around 170,000 new soldiers.

"The increase in the full-time strength of the army is due to growing threats to our country linked with the special military operation and the continuing expansion of NATO [the North Atlantic Treaty Organization]," said the armed forces in a statement warning of recent "aggressive activity" from the NATO bloc.

Russia still controls over 20% of Ukraine
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I do not see how that changes anything I have said above, at most I would need to thank you for further proving my point. Ukraine, Ruzzia and Vanuatu for that matter are subject to influences, it just seem that the current influence tells most Ukrainians that it is worth fighting for a degree of independence.

On regards to US fighting with dollars... I assume you are speaking of the specific case of Ukraine, in many other places US has military presence. Are you somehow eager to see a US / Ruzzia unrestricted fight? I am not.

That is very simplistic view...since nation is sociological and not biological fact, its subject to influence and change
Fact is that currently USA can fight with $$$ and Russia has to use weapons...but thats subject to change too,
in next few decades, or, why not, centuries

Even under your imperialistic and simplistic view of the world, it seems that Ukraine has decided they have a say on  whose influence they are better of with. Even a "subject" seems to be able to choose the "whateverf**k" that fits best.

I am not sure what you call "actual sovereignty", Ukraine is a recognised independent nation and as any country has to live with a range of influences - no country is free to do at will, not even the US, they are all subject to conditions, influences and relations. By now, they have figured out that Moscow would treat them like they treat the rest of the "subjects" - impoverishing them, sending them to die and letting them to deal with the local despot. They want to try something different.

Its not "Kremlin propagandist stuff", western media called them nazis too...before they stopped
for propaganda purposes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5SBo0akeDMY

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2015-000653_EN.html

I don't understand the reason for your cognitive dissonance. There are subjective countries in the world and objects of their influence. Russia is a subjective country, Ukraine is an object of its influence. Ukraine does not have actual sovereignty, even if it has all the formal characteristics of a sovereign state. If this is news or revelation to you, then you don’t understand anything about politics.

You seem to be utterly confused and just rambling random words at this point. But i can see why https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-stalled-russia-war-defenses/ Long read probably beyond your attention span, but gives a sobering coverage of the failed counteroffensive and the finger pointing between west and Ukraine. But everyone already knew that, the bigger question is what happens next, now that Russians had even more time to make more mine fields and build defenses, and now Ukraine is lacking manpower. Looks like Ukraine solvency and existence will depend on the clown show in Washington next two week until congress will go on Christmas break, how many month will they extend Ukrainian aid for, range seems to be from 0 to 11 (November elections)

LOL you've been massively lied to about the purposes of the "special operation" but you're fine with that because it was never about "nazis" or anything... just some good old genocidal Russian imperialism that you adore so much. I'm just not quite sure why you're shy to parrot all of the Kremlin propagandist stuff, not just select bits. You're skipping the parts about nuking Berlin and London and all that shit, as if you don't really believe it perhaps, yet all the things about "nazis" must be absolutely true. No cognitive dissonance?

You're trolling right? I refuse to believe that you're seriously so dumb that you don't even realize that replacing a language is part of changing the spheres of influence?

The Russian book ban in Ukraine took effect on December 30, 2016, when President Petro Poroshenko signed a law that restricted import of books into Ukraine from Russia. This is an element of the ongoing military conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
Ukrainian parliament backs mandatory English language law for key positions in country

Next time before speaking educate yourself on Operation Cyclone where west sponsored mujahideens like Osama bin Laden and Operation Red Sox where west sponsored known nazi collaborators  such as Bandera. Why wouldn't the west sponsor neo-nazis to fight against Russia once again?

The ROI is excellent. Removing all those armoured vehicles, artillery and a few ships for a few billion and from the perspective of the US, with no loss of their own armies is the perfect deal. More knowing that the old soviet capacity of production and a good part of the technologically advanced platforms are not replaceable. It does put a good limit to the next aggression from Ruzzia.

Think of it, if the US wanted to end the war, they would commit the resources that are required, instead of just a few units of this and a few units of that.

Regarding the support, I know you want to believe in everyone who says that the support will stop, but at the moment is more likely that the US will put forward a single approval for a full year of war rather than the opposite.

Synonyms

USA tried to replace Russian sphere of influence by destroying Russian one, employing nazis
to do that for them. So Russians battle it by fighting Nazis and protecting Russians

What happened to "protecting" Russian language in Ukraine, and "nazis"?

Funny how even when you admit being lied to, you're still trying to find ways to justify your stupidity.

I understand that current world news don't fit your narrative, and that you'd prefer to discuss Ukraine in a vacuum citing only Ukrainian sources of how great everything is going and how amazing Zelenskiy is. But at it's root, this conflict is simply just about expanding spheres of influence, if you don't like US trying to tie Ukrainian, Israel and Taiwan funding together, take it to Biden while he's still in office. And try explaining why Russian sanctions failed without explaining how China couldn't let them succeed