Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 99. (Read 59119 times)

Probably so they can start out with the big glide bombs once they lure the Ukroids into the trap and slam the door shut behind them.

The main question would be how much re-building assistance will be provided to the now RF citizens once they move back home.

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Seems increasingly possible that NATO will go ahead and set the spent fuel pools of the Enerhodar nuclear power complex on fire.  This would be and interesting and very distressing development.  It would also open the door for 'eye-for-an-eye' strategy and there are many many liquid cooling sites around the world which host such facilities.  Russia has already pointed this out, and also that winds do shift directions from time to time.  Ironically, Germany, which had dry-casked their spent rods making themselves immune to disasters of this nature, is shutting down their last power plants.  Germany's methods indicate that they are (were) one of the few countries who where not re-processing with the intent of making nuclear weapons, but that's just a tangential fun-fact to ponder.

Widespread nuclear contamination of croplands and thus agricultural potential seems to be very much of interest to the WEF and other strongly technocratic groups/individuals.  Especially one's with a footprint in the synthetic foods space.

It's really hard to prosecute a war against an adversary who wishes to 'lose'.  I continue to hold open the possibility that Russia/Putin is simply playing his part in a stage act which will ultimately usher in the technocratic dystopia that the current crop of 'leaders' seem to want/need.  By 'leaders', I'm not talking about names that people have heard of but rather the ones who install presidents/prime-ministers, heads of 'stakeholder' entities (WHO, IMF, UN, etc.)

The RF is "evacuating" people massively from Zapo, we are talking more than ten localities. I wonder why? ... Nah, I do not wonder why to be honest.

You forgot the part about how embarrassing it must be to have to shoot down your own drone that you couldn't control, so that you wouldn't get fried by it. Lol.

Didn't Russia destroyed all Ukraine's Bayraktars long time ago  There was some users claiming that. What can I say about it - shit happens sometimes. But I'm not sure that it's as fun as Russia dropping FAB bombs on Belgorod or SU-34 aircraft crashing into apartment building in Yeysk.

Part of the RF troops (oh, what the heck... ORCS) positioned in the south near Zaporilla have been moved to cover the banks along the Dniper after the attempts (may I say fake attemps?) of crossing the river and establishing a bridgehead. This stretches the troops and the reserves in the area a forces a longer logistics chain.

To simplify, the Ukrainians seem to be creating openings in the line before committing to a more decisive action. It is also happening in the delta of Dniper, obviously, under a heavy contested environment - nothing is going to be easy. Hoever, stretching the RF troops in a longer line is better, and moving them around responding to minor attacks is a way of making then waste valuable fuel.

Also, recent attacks on fuel depots in Crimea and other locations, along with the damaged McPutin's Kerch Bridge will make the fleet in the Black Sea less able to support from the sea. Overall, I would say that some preparation is taking place, yet I would expect to see much more over the next two weeks.

Happy 9th of May! And do not forget to look to the sky from time to time... just in case you know.

I think that the air battle should be balanced by providing Ukraine with a longer range missile. The RF airborne orcs have too much advantage. A few Swedish Grippen with Meteor missiles would come very handy. Maybe Putin can do something, like pushing Sweden harder to join NATO?

Because it was not accidentally shot down. And nobody is trying to blame it on russia. It was Bayraktar TB2, which russia doesn't even have in its arsenal. It was Ukrainian drone, which lost control therefore it was shot down. End of the story.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/05/ukraine-shoots-down-its-own-drone-over-kyiv-after-device-lost-control

  Russian drone shot down over Kiev
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/LptOznbKV3Uu/

Lol.  I'm surprised they didn't credit the 'Ghost of Kiev' for the kill.  If it was a Russian drone I would suggest to the Russians that they stick with Iranian hardware.  Seems much more effective.  Maybe the drone was 'Russian' insofar as they bought it from some corrupt Ukrainian general or middle-man and were just flying it over to it's new home to be analyzed, but from what I read they probably have a ton of bits and pieces collected back before they became completely ineffective against Russian air defenses.  Looks like these things to for around $5,000,000 each.  Wow, what a joke when the Iranian stuff comes in at around $25,000.  Gimme 50 200 flying chainsaws over one of these things any day.  But what do the Ukrainians care about prices when my tax-paying peers back in the U.S. are footing all the bills?

Ironically, I just traded my Turkish semi-auto shotgun in earlier today because it was not very satisfactory in some ways.

You didn't say "... 'accidentally' shot down... ." They must be trying to blame it on Russia.

More and more it's coming out into the open that the US and Nato 'trainers' are not on Ukraine's side.

Meanwhile, in the sky over Kiev, a Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile successfully shot down its own Bayraktar TB2 drone.

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As Russia continues to plow up Ukraine ground for spring planting.


TRUTH BEHIND "RUSSIAN STRIKES ON CIVILIANS" IN UKRAINE

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https://southfront.org/truth-behind-strikes-on-civilians-in-ukraine/
Before the massive night attack, Ukrainian media reported that five Russian Tu-95MS strategic missile carriers armed with X-101 or X-555 cruise missiles took to the air. Kiev could get this information only from the United States or NATO intelligence.

By morning, the Ukrainian military reported that their air defenses had allegedly shot down 21 Russian missiles, without specifying how many of them had reached their targets.

Despite the fact that Kiev has banned Ukrainians from filming and posting the consequences of Russian strikes on social networks, videos showcasing the defeat of targets continue to be published online, confirming the damage that Kiev is hiding.

Explosions thundered in the cities of Kiev, Kremenchuk, Dnepropetrovsk, as well as in the Kiev, Mykolaiv, Poltava and Cherkasy regions. Strikes targeted military infrastructure facilities: locations of Ukrainian forces, ammunition depots and accumulation points for military equipment and weapons.
According to Ukrainian reports, seven Russian missiles were shot down over the city of Dnepropetrovsk. However, two oil depots filled with fuel for Western military equipment were destroyed in the city. Local authorities reported that two people were killed and three were injured.

The Ukrainian military once again demonstrated their incompetence and the inability of Ukrainian air defenses to protect their own people. Local officials confirmed that Ukrainian air defense forces destroyed a multi-storey residential building in the city of Ukrainka in the Kiev region.
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Russia RETALIATES for Attack on Sevastopol - Massive Russian Attacks

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https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-retaliates-for-attack-on-sevastopol-massive-russian-attacks
Above, a massive explosion in Pavlohrad, a Ukrainian-occupied portion of Donetsk Oblast.  It seems a Ukrainian missile storage depot was hit!

Initial Reports say Russian Missiles struck a Rail Yard and a Ukrainian Arms Depot on the Outskirts of the City.  Multiple missiles inside that depot then launched catastrophically and unguided, into the night sky.  

Video of the storage depot ablaze appears below:

Above, a massive explosion in Pavlohrad, a Ukrainian-occupied portion of Donetsk Oblast.  It seems a Ukrainian missile storage depot was hit!

Initial Reports say Russian Missiles struck a Rail Yard and a Ukrainian Arms Depot on the Outskirts of the City.  Multiple missiles inside that depot then launched catastrophically and unguided, into the night sky.  

Video of the storage depot ablaze appears below:
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HORRIFIC SLAUGHTER:

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https://southfront.org/horrific-slaughter-russia-finally-admits-to-destroying-natos-deep-underground-command-bunker-in-kiev/
As reported on March 12 by the Greek portal of political and military information Pronews, citing American sources, in the course of an operation to retaliate for a provocation in the Bryansk region, a Russian hypersonic missile "Dagger" struck at a joint Ukrainian-NATO command and communications center.

According to Pronews , "dozens of NATO officers" were killed in a "terrifying strike" by a Mach 12 missile. In all likelihood, we are talking about the defeat of the "shadow General Staff" of NATO in Ukraine. The secret underground bunker, built at a depth of 400 feet (120 meters), housed several NATO officers (retired) and advisers. In total, more than 300 people.

To date, according to the portal, 40 people have been pulled out from under the rubble of the underground headquarters, but most of those who died under the rubble have not yet been found.

It is not known, the portal continues, exactly how many Western citizens and how many Ukrainians were killed as a result of the "Dagger" strike. "Most of them, "  according to Pronews, "are British and Poles, but there were also Americans and representatives of private companies that support communication and data transmission. In the coming days, it will be seen to what extent this will affect the conduct of Ukrainian and Western operations and attempts to stop the final phase of the Russian offensive on Bakhmut.
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The activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region is more like a distraction maneuver or reconnaissance in force. The hottest points of confrontation are still Bakhmut and Marinka.

It could be a false flag, but I am not sure this is the best moment and I am not sure it gives Putin something he did not have before. Basically, you have the "victory parade" in a few days, you can even see the tribune there under the building "attacked" so I would say that people attending may be a bit more "concerned" about attending it. Putin has now a hard choice: show himself and other high rankers in there, knowing that it is possible to get "droned" or cancel the event and look week. If you think it for a second... if someone wanted to make sure the parade goes ahead, would have done exactly this. He cannot really cancel now.

Regardless, the real war is happening in Zapo and in the Delta of the Dniper river, while minimal counterattacks happen in Bakhmut and nearby places just to make sure the RF army keeps busy dying there

It seems to me it was an inside job in order to justify further action. Perhaps they are preparing to change tactics, so they need an explanation and justification for why they are changing it. Here, they say, look, we are already being attacked, we have no other choice but to continue to "defend ourselves." Also, such internal provocations can be done in order to frighten their own population and thus force them to take a more active part in the mobilization (allegedly go to the military registration and enlistment office on their own, and not avoid it).

Declaration of war? Seriously?

If it is false flag, and given the interpretation of being "an attempt on Putin" the reason would be to justify a political assassination of Zelensky. If you ask me, a veeery bad idea. The war would continue anyway and they would have created a martyr just as they are creating a precedent and something to remember in Bakhmut. Not great ideas any of them.

BTW there seems to be some real action near Zaporilla, yet I would not call that an offensive. More like a "hostile recon". No change in the front.

That's epic. Never expected such thing to happen. When there was talks about Ukraine attack on kremlin and Red Square, I saw it more like memes and attempts to tease Russians. First, explosion of Crimea bridge, now drone attack on Kremlin. It doesn't looks like attempt to make much damage or serious attempt to kill Putin. It's more showing how vulnerable Russia is that even their symbols can hit by simple drone and their glorious air defense systems can't protect from it. And seems that Russians is really butthurt about it. It looks even more epic when now Red Square is in preparations for Victory Day parade.

I don't know was it false flag attack or no, but there is some valid reasons to think that it was inside job. It will show people that war isn't somewhere far away in Ukraine and that they're not safe. In such way they can increase support to ''special operation, maybe they also preparing for new wave of mobilization. They even can use this attack as reason to use tactical nuclear weapon. It wasn't attack on Russian border regions, it's heart of their capital and they even call it as attempt to kill Putin.

I have not really noticed that all that much.  Seems to me more like there are 'conspiricy theory' things which are studiously avoided.  One of the more amusing ones recently was when some Ukrainian asserted that Russia was making it a wet spring using geoengineering technics.  Indeed, what little mention of it which I did catch seemed to have been scrubbed.  I posit that these are things which TPTB would rather people just don't contemplate at all.


Most countries of significance will bend over backward to make things they wish to do 'legal'.  Why I don't know.  The U.S., Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and now the Russian Federation are/were pretty much sticklers for this.  I am quite certain that there are things which are 'legal' and 'allowed', a milestone such as a declaration of war.  And a little bit before that, what it takes to actually make such a declaration.  Even if it's a 'war on terror' or a 'war on covid'.


Sure.  I didn't mean to imply that I thought it was a false flag by the Russians.  Simply that I would not expect them to have any qualms about doing such a thing if they felt a need or saw a benefit.  Maybe I'm selling them short, but I doubt it.

Ukraine itself seems to be continuously descending into more and more of an uncoordinated nazi cluster-fuck so any number of groups could have responsibility.  Not to mention the possibility of home-grown anti-govt groups associated exclusively with the RF.


Whoever did it would almost certainly had no expectation that it would be 'effective' at doing any real damage or killing anyone.  Looks like it was some kind of a toy.  Having an expectation of doing any significant damage would be as silly as pretending that Russia could 'take Kiev' with the token forces they sent in that direction back when this thing started out.  These are fairytales for low-functioning children.

Things have changed dramatically for Russia in these last days,especially in the regions bordering with Ukraine and Crimea,a lot of explosions in ammunition depot and train derailing becoming a common thing these days,for me clearly these messages are preliminary to another spring counter offensive by Ukrainian forces,there has no other way to be as all the meetings with the Western Powers and all the modern weapons and training of their soldiers needs to translate into something and this something is going to be a new counter offensive.

The drone attack if it was not an inside job is a clear message to all the people in Russia,you are not safe with such government and you should wake up against them.

It seems a little weird that anytime an attack happens against Russia or it's interests the media immediately starts pushing this false flag attack angle.  I don't think Russia needs any more reasons to attack, they're already attacking.  Personally, I would say this is more likely some fringe group making an attempt at impacting the war.  The facts are these types of weapons are getting lost everywhere right now and it wouldn't be insane to think that anyone could have gotten their hands on some tech and tried to use it.  The fact they failed shows that it wasn't a sophisticated attack.

How possible is it that the thing was a false-flag for the purposes of getting legal authorization for a potential declaration of war against Ukraine?  I would say 'very'.  Would the various Russian governmental apparatus do such a thing?  I would say 'of course'.

I would also say that there will never be a better opportunity for Russia to ensure that ye'ol 'pale of settlement' does not go contiguously from the Baltic sea to the Black sea for the simple reason that it will necessitate sharing of the revenue of transit fees over the Belt-n-Road.

I would also say that if Russia has an opportunity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it would be by losing control of the PMC situation.  I think that Putin would do his county well to make a rule that PMC's are welcome to operate in the contested areas outside of Russia in pursuit of commercial advantage, but not within or really even near RF areas.  If Prigozon or Shoigu or anyone else cannot handle that, it would be 'thanks for your service, here's a lot of money, and goodbye.'  Similarly this is a golden opportunity to not just switch the oligarchs around, but get rid of much of the oligarchy and various other undesirables altogether.  'This' being the point in time where a new global monetary system is being formed up and the Oligarch's power via the old one are diminished.  Many of these people probably do constitute a clear and present danger to the nation's people, it's political leaders, and one-another as they can be offered future Western goodies to offset their losses under the current sanctions regimes.  I'd suggest to keep an eye on 'em.

Interestingly enough, they argue that it is terrorism. They are still trying to confuse their own people about what they have been brought into - in a war, you can be expected your centres of command to be attacked and that includes ministries, government buildings and other key strategic targets, including Generals and even their dictator. All those targets are legitimate, as opposed to a Mall, a hospital and areas with nothing but civilians.

In practical terms I am not sure this is drone attack. There seems to be something exploding above the flag so if it is a drone, it is probably a statement - a message saying "you cannot even keep your capital safe" - rather than something that could potentially kill or cause any real damage other than by mistake.

https://youtu.be/_Hp8YuhzJYY