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US and EU don't have courage to foot on ukarine soil and fight with Russia rather they are using ukarine for proxy war. Why other countries should boycott Russian cheap oil and gas. Between there is no clear announcement from EU that there gas import from Russia has gone down to zero.
It's basically all about the nuclear war threat. I mean could EU and USA go into Ukraine and beat Russia out of there if we are talking about just the regular soldiers and tanks type of war? Of course they can, it would be simple like taking candy out of a child. Hell USA alone could, the USA airforce has the biggest air power in all of the world, you know who has the second highest? USA navy. They are that huge, and they have bigger military spending then like 20+ next biggest combined.

So, no matter whatever nationalistic bs anyone talks about, USA army (I am not even American and dislike USA government as well) would win against anyone, probably against all of Europe if it had to, let alone just Russia. But nuclear weapons? That threat is a very real one, and can destroy the earth very easily with a single button.
The recent US defeat in Afghanistan was extremely humiliating and severely damaged US military morale and self-confidence. Prior to this, the United States also did not particularly work out in Syria. An Iranian missile attack on military bases in Iraq in the immediate vicinity of the US consulate in early 2020 also had to be swallowed up and left without an adequate response. The US Army is in its worst state since the collapse of the USSR in 1991, when it celebrated victory in the Cold War and visibly relaxed. At the same time, the United States curtailed the development of new types of promising nuclear weapons, considering that it was enough to maintain the achieved level and everything would be fine - because the United States had already proved to everyone that they were the toughest guys in the world. But without live nuclear testing, how can you be sure that your nuclear weapons are still operational 30 years later? The report on the combat readiness of the nuclear arsenal is now being formed by a group of experts appointed by the US State Department, and who are therefore biased and obviously not objective. What if I told you that the US is now at its lowest combat capability in its history? How will you refute this statement of mine, except for the unfounded expert theses that you heard in the show on TV?
legendary
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US and EU don't have courage to foot on ukarine soil and fight with Russia rather they are using ukarine for proxy war. Why other countries should boycott Russian cheap oil and gas. Between there is no clear announcement from EU that there gas import from Russia has gone down to zero.
It's basically all about the nuclear war threat. I mean could EU and USA go into Ukraine and beat Russia out of there if we are talking about just the regular soldiers and tanks type of war? Of course they can, it would be simple like taking candy out of a child. Hell USA alone could, the USA airforce has the biggest air power in all of the world, you know who has the second highest? USA navy. They are that huge, and they have bigger military spending then like 20+ next biggest combined.

So, no matter whatever nationalistic bs anyone talks about, USA army (I am not even American and dislike USA government as well) would win against anyone, probably against all of Europe if it had to, let alone just Russia. But nuclear weapons? That threat is a very real one, and can destroy the earth very easily with a single button.
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I am not really against it; yeah, if we do absolutely nothing about Russia attacking Ukraine, then we should not do anything about it if they decide to invade Finland, how about Estonia after that? How about if they decide to invade Latvia, Lithuania, after that? I mean where does it end? When do you say "that's enough Russia"?
Well nobody did anything when US and its allies that included Ukraine attacked Iraq and killed innocent people there. It didn't stop there either, they invaded Afghanistan and it didn't stop there either....
Where does it end? It will never end but it can end for weaker countries when they learn the importance of independence and then learn the meaning of resistance. How do you think the cavemen in Afghanistan won the war against the most expensive military in the world? Other countries are also being liberated as we speak.
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Exactly. The EU citizens are suffering from their own stupid policies, which resulted in sky high inflation and gas shortages. And now they want countries that are located tens of thousands of kilometers away to follow the same policy. How stupid these people can be? Do they really believe that they are still living in the first half of 20th century, when they ruled over half of the world in different colonies? US/EU are declining economies, and their own stupid policies are accelerating that decline. And the most comical thing is that they want other countries to suffer the same fate.

US and EU don't have courage to foot on ukarine soil and fight with Russia rather they are using ukarine for proxy war. Why other countries should boycott Russian cheap oil and gas. Between there is no clear announcement from EU that there gas import from Russia has gone down to zero.
legendary
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The EU citizens are suffering from their own stupid policies, which resulted in sky high inflation and gas shortages. And now they want countries that are located tens of thousands of kilometers away to follow the same policy. How stupid these people can be? Do they really believe that they are still living in the first half of 20th century, when they ruled over half of the world in different colonies? US/EU are declining economies, and their own stupid policies are accelerating that decline. And the most comical thing is that they want other countries to suffer the same fate.
I am not really against it; yeah, if we do absolutely nothing about Russia attacking Ukraine, then we should not do anything about it if they decide to invade Finland, how about Estonia after that? How about if they decide to invade Latvia, Lithuania, after that? I mean where does it end? When do you say "that's enough Russia"?

You gotta start somewhere and at the start is great. They already have a puppet in Belarus, and they are de facto ruling Georgia as well, but if you let Ukraine too, which is basically in Europe already, then you are in a big trouble. This is why I get that, Russia attacking a European nation was the last draw for them and they are putting their foot down. Doesn't sound too silly to me, totally what anyone would do.
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Exactly. The EU citizens are suffering from their own stupid policies, which resulted in sky high inflation and gas shortages. And now they want countries that are located tens of thousands of kilometers away to follow the same policy. How stupid these people can be? Do they really believe that they are still living in the first half of 20th century, when they ruled over half of the world in different colonies? US/EU are declining economies, and their own stupid policies are accelerating that decline. And the most comical thing is that they want other countries to suffer the same fate.
Just read in on social media that till date .. USA initiated/ participated in 16 War,  6 Million killed, One Noble Prize and No sanction. On the other hand there are counties  which are weak have to pay for being weak and not having a string defense. 
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I think if a country attacks another country - they should fight on their own. The other powerful countries should not push other countries to come in that conflict.
I have notice EU is dragging the other countries in that Russian and Ukrainian war and if they are not taking their dictation - they have to pay the prices.

Exactly. The EU citizens are suffering from their own stupid policies, which resulted in sky high inflation and gas shortages. And now they want countries that are located tens of thousands of kilometers away to follow the same policy. How stupid these people can be? Do they really believe that they are still living in the first half of 20th century, when they ruled over half of the world in different colonies? US/EU are declining economies, and their own stupid policies are accelerating that decline. And the most comical thing is that they want other countries to suffer the same fate.
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In total, in two days of fighting on July 6 and 7, 37 Russian tanks, 22 armored vehicles and 16 artillery systems were destroyed.
Russia is running out of steam in this war. Let's see what happens in a few more months.
He is going to deny that at all times, he is just a Russian troll, let him be. We all know that if Russia was doing so great, they would have just taken all those places they wanted to take, hell the war would have been over by now.

Why is it not over? Because, Russia failed to take over, and Ukraine is not attacking Russian mainland to take over neither, so that means we are dealing with a situation where Russia is failing. All those deaths, from both sides, all because, Putin wanted to prove the world that he is strong president. It’s such a pity that people would have to die, tens of thousands of them, just because of one man’s ego and nothing else.
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The European Union made efforts to gradually weaken the Russian economy in various ways, one of which was a boycott of oil and gas, Nato voiced it for all countries to support this policy. although the European Union was affected by the boycott. there is a lot of propaganda in this conflict both countries do it. There are many interests that have happened in this I think, I can only feel and think how unfortunate it is for those who are victims, who do not know anything about the problem of the conflict but are affected by it.
I think if a country attacks another country - they should fight on their own. The other powerful countries should not push other countries to come in that conflict.
I have notice EU is dragging the other countries in that Russian and Ukrainian war and if they are not taking their dictation - they have to pay the prices.
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You are slightly distorting the actual events. Ukraine has successfully resisted a full-scale military invasion of Russia for 125 days. To date, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the following have been destroyed:
- 35,250 Russian soldiers and officers,
- 1567 tanks,
- 3704 armored vehicles,
- 217 aircraft,
- 185 helicopters,
- 778 artillery systems,
- 243 multiple launch rocket systems,
- 102 air defense systems,
- 2589 automotive equipment,
- 636 UAVs,
- 14 ships and boats, etc.
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LOL.... BBC has given the figure of around ~4,000 deaths for the Russian Armed Forces and PMC Wagner (DNR/LNR lost another 4,000 men, but these are Ukrainian citizens). On the other hand, more than 30,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far, and around 15,000 have been taken prisoner. Western media has been telling for a long time that Russia is running out of ammunition and cruise missiles. And now the Ukrainians are complaining that they are being out-shelled and cruise missiles are raining on their cities.
The above figures of Russians killed in Ukraine, which were announced by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the amount of 35,250 people, are not the total losses of Russia as of June 28. The Armed Forces of Ukraine cites confirmed losses without taking into account the number of wounded.
However, at that time, according to the classified data of the Russian Ministry of Defense and which was cited in the press by the former Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Avakov, Russia lost much more in manpower, namely: 48,800 people, of which 37,500 were directly Russian military personnel, 9,500 members of a private military company Wagner (now PMC "Liga") and 1800 employees of the Russian Guard. No one counts the dead mobilized residents of the unrecognized DPR and LPR, but there are about 10,000 casualties there. And not counting the wounded. And the advancing army usually does not have a set loss for one killed three wounded. If we consider that in Russia there are approximately 50,000 military dead, then there will be more than 100,000 wounded.

The last days have been especially fruitful for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in enemy technology. The Russians went with large forces to the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, deciding to arrange the Kursk Bulge-2 for the Ukrainians (one of the largest tank battles on the eastern front during the Second World War). The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation tried to break through the defense of the Ukrainians with armor and fire. The paratroopers of the 80th separate air assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine distinguished themselves here. In total, in two days of fighting on July 6 and 7, 37 Russian tanks, 22 armored vehicles and 16 artillery systems were destroyed.
Russia is running out of steam in this war. Let's see what happens in a few more months.
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EU boycotted Russian oil and gas and now they want rest of the world to do the same. Those who are not boycotting are criticised for supporting and spreading terrorism. I don't think Russians haven't done there homework before this war and few months of EU boycott would have destroyed there economy.

The European Union made efforts to gradually weaken the Russian economy in various ways, one of which was a boycott of oil and gas, Nato voiced it for all countries to support this policy. although the European Union was affected by the boycott. there is a lot of propaganda in this conflict both countries do it. There are many interests that have happened in this I think, I can only feel and think how unfortunate it is for those who are victims, who do not know anything about the problem of the conflict but are affected by it.
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The same stance Pakistani PM took and they were not allowed to be neutral - did you happen to see the latest interview of Prime Minister Imran Khan with Dw's Richard. Where the PM of Pakistan got really angry when the anchor asked about Ukraine and Russia. The fact of the matter is that the PM is responsible for his country men and not the other wars. I am not sure why such discrimination in India and Pakistan.

Same questions were asked to the Indian foreign minister (Subrahmanyam Jaishankar) when he attended the Globsec 2022 Bratislava forum. He made it clear that India needs to put its own interest first. This is a proxy war between Russia and the NATO. Why developing nations such as India and Pakistan need to pay for it? At this point, India is receiving crude from Russia at the rate of $80 per barrel (which is 100% higher than the prices we had in 2020). We have made it very clear. If some other country can provide us crude at this rate, then we don't need to import crude all the way from Russia (it takes almost one month for tankers to travel from Russia to India).
Good thing done by Indians. I am not sure why the powerful are suppressing the weak countries all the time and dictate what they have to do and what not to do.
 I have a question - does military plays a role in Indian politics? or is it a democratic state?
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The same stance Pakistani PM took and they were not allowed to be neutral - did you happen to see the latest interview of Prime Minister Imran Khan with Dw's Richard. Where the PM of Pakistan got really angry when the anchor asked about Ukraine and Russia. The fact of the matter is that the PM is responsible for his country men and not the other wars. I am not sure why such discrimination in India and Pakistan.

Same questions were asked to the Indian foreign minister (Subrahmanyam Jaishankar) when he attended the Globsec 2022 Bratislava forum. He made it clear that India needs to put its own interest first. This is a proxy war between Russia and the NATO. Why developing nations such as India and Pakistan need to pay for it? At this point, India is receiving crude from Russia at the rate of $80 per barrel (which is 100% higher than the prices we had in 2020). We have made it very clear. If some other country can provide us crude at this rate, then we don't need to import crude all the way from Russia (it takes almost one month for tankers to travel from Russia to India).
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LOL.... BBC has given the figure of around ~4,000 deaths for the Russian Armed Forces and PMC Wagner (DNR/LNR lost another 4,000 men, but these are Ukrainian citizens). On the other hand, more than 30,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far, and around 15,000 have been taken prisoner. Western media has been telling for a long time that Russia is running out of ammunition and cruise missiles. And now the Ukrainians are complaining that they are being out-shelled and cruise missiles are raining on their cities.
I think that all is a propaganda - Russia is a very powerful and successful state. They have wheat, oil and gas. Many EU countries depend on them for the supply. Cutting ties with Russia is not a good decision. I like the stance of India - they are neutral and are not sending any country. Because it is their battle let them fight their battle.
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I see - Russian propaganda worked fiercely in India too Smiley Hmm ... I didn’t think that everything was so bad ... But how unexpected and bright it would be, then, a little later, an epiphany. It will come to the Indian, and the Kazakh, and the Spaniard and the Greek, and the Congolese and the Chilean - nationality does not affect the perception of reality or the choice of propaganda lies. An alternative reality invented by propagandists always collapses, and the odor and sediment on the soul remains for life ...

I read BBC News regularly and most of the mainstream media in India have taken a neutral stance on this conflict. Therefore I don't understand why you are claiming that Russian propaganda is working in India. Russia is not asking India to do anything. We, in India have our own preferences and we always do what is beneficial for us. But that doesn't mean that we will do something unethical or immoral. If you are talking about increasing imports, it was initiated by the Indian government (there was no pressure from Russia, and Rosneft even told some of the Indian companies that they don't have any more spare capacity to export crude oil to India).
The same stance Pakistani PM took and they were not allowed to be neutral - did you happen to see the latest interview of Prime Minister Imran Khan with Dw's Richard. Where the PM of Pakistan got really angry when the anchor asked about Ukraine and Russia. The fact of the matter is that the PM is responsible for his country men and not the other wars. I am not sure why such discrimination in India and Pakistan.
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I read BBC News regularly and most of the mainstream media in India have taken a neutral stance on this conflict. Therefore I don't understand why you are claiming that Russian propaganda is working in India. Russia is not asking India to do anything. We, in India have our own preferences and we always do what is beneficial for us. But that doesn't mean that we will do something unethical or immoral. If you are talking about increasing imports, it was initiated by the Indian government (there was no pressure from Russia, and Rosneft even told some of the Indian companies that they don't have any more spare capacity to export crude oil to India).

EU boycotted Russian oil and gas and now they want rest of the world to do the same. Those who are not boycotting are criticised for supporting and spreading terrorism. I don't think Russians haven't done there homework before this war and few months of EU boycott would have destroyed there economy.
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Be careful when you use the term "invader". There was a recent video posted by France24 YouTube channel. It showed residents of Lysychansk celebrating the Russian victories in Severodonetsk and Zolote and were openly cursing the Ukrainian soldiers. It is clear that at least a part of the Eastern Ukrainians view the UAF as the invaders and the Russians as liberators. Without adequate local support, Russia would have struggled to hold on to such huge swathes of territory. Despite the initial rumors, residents of Kherson and Donbass are not rioting against the Russian rule. 

TBH it's very hard to say what really is story because what you are saying won't be aired on western media like BBC, foxnews or BBC but on pro Russian media. Ukarine was part of Russia not so long ago, so it's very obvious that there are pro Russian elements in ukarine specially in its Eastern part.
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You are slightly distorting the actual events. Ukraine has successfully resisted a full-scale military invasion of Russia for 125 days.
He is a Russian troll and nothing more, so there is really no reason to take him seriously. Dude just wants to say "Russia is the best nation in the world" but he is taking a few extra steps while doing that. He means exactly that, but he can't say that directly so he is talking about how the west is bad, and how Ukraine is a fool to believe in the west that invested over 100 billion combined in money and other stuff, so all in all, he has been wrong from the first sentence and he knows it, he is aware of it, he just would not agree to it because he likes to talk about how awesome Russia is and nothing more. This is why we should ignore him.
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I see - Russian propaganda worked fiercely in India too Smiley Hmm ... I didn’t think that everything was so bad ... But how unexpected and bright it would be, then, a little later, an epiphany. It will come to the Indian, and the Kazakh, and the Spaniard and the Greek, and the Congolese and the Chilean - nationality does not affect the perception of reality or the choice of propaganda lies. An alternative reality invented by propagandists always collapses, and the odor and sediment on the soul remains for life ...

I read BBC News regularly and most of the mainstream media in India have taken a neutral stance on this conflict. Therefore I don't understand why you are claiming that Russian propaganda is working in India. Russia is not asking India to do anything. We, in India have our own preferences and we always do what is beneficial for us. But that doesn't mean that we will do something unethical or immoral. If you are talking about increasing imports, it was initiated by the Indian government (there was no pressure from Russia, and Rosneft even told some of the Indian companies that they don't have any more spare capacity to export crude oil to India).
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Well, we could talk about the finer details of numbers if you want, which is there and you decline it and that is your own "opinion" and sure go ahead and do that. But we could also talk about the reality, it has been over 3 months and Russia has failed to takeover Kyiv, which is proof enough that even though they are attacking with more manpower, more gunpowder, and more money, they are still not taking it, is that not enough for you?

This isn't even a pissing contest, you are saying that 30k Ukrainian soldiers are dead, and we all know Russia killed innocent bystanders as well, and you think that is fine? You are fine with that? My god you have no idea what you are saying do you? You are not aware that you are promoting death.

Being an Indian, I am staying neutral in this conflict. That is, unlike you I am not taking sides. Civilians have been killed on both the sides. Ukrainian army is constantly shelling cities under the control of DNR and LNR, which has resulted in hundreds of deaths ever since the war started. There are numerous instances of Russian and DNR/LNR POWs being tortured and shot at point blank. According to the Russians, there are more than 15,000 Ukrainian POWs in their custody, but the Ukrainian regime refuses to exchange them. And regarding the failure of Russia, from what I heard they are using only around 20% of their strength. Most of the fighting is being done by the militias of LNR and DNR and that is the reason why they have suffered thousands of deaths. Russian army is thinly spread across Kherson, Kharkiv and Zaporizhia, where the intensity is relatively low.

I see - Russian propaganda worked fiercely in India too Smiley Hmm ... I didn’t think that everything was so bad ... But how unexpected and bright it would be, then, a little later, an epiphany. It will come to the Indian, and the Kazakh, and the Spaniard and the Greek, and the Congolese and the Chilean - nationality does not affect the perception of reality or the choice of propaganda lies. An alternative reality invented by propagandists always collapses, and the odor and sediment on the soul remains for life ...
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