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Topic: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper - page 79. (Read 25829 times)

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Could I get a response for a miner who understands what I am talking about please?

BSV will implement gigabyte blocks in July, by then the mining reward will actually be less than the fees collected by the miners at that scale.

You see where I’m getting started? Time will tell, ive said all I’ve need to here.

Miners are NOT second rate citizens in this capitalist economic model. Lightning Network damn well won’t save you. Raise the blocks or get everyone’s BTC on the lightning Network.

You have now 1 month until 1 GIG blocks are implemented, and with OP return and all these applications being built on the OG protocol of BSV, it’s in the networks best interest to spam as many transactions as possible through as many applications as possible built on top of the original protocol (BSV)

A super computer that powerful with that much hashpower can destroy all the other blockchains. Time to understand the facts. I really, god honestly believe none of you guys understand Bitcoin.

legendary
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How can we deny that the original protocol is NOT Bitcoin?

Have you checked BSV's GitHub repository? BSV isn't the "original protocol" -- its a fork of a fork. Did you know that your code has edits made by Amaury Sechet (BCH) and Pieter Wuille (BTC)?



Did you see all the applications being built on BSV?

No, and nobody cares.

Attacking one character does not constitute a scam given there is a fair economic capitalist model of competition for the miners.

It certainly does. It's quite evident that most of BSV's market cap is driven by the idea that Wright is Satoshi. Have you been paying attention?

When BTC shrinks the blocksize, where the hell do you think the miners are going to go on the next halveneing? Better get all your BTC on the third party lightning network fast boys.

Why would BTC shrink its block size? You mean to less than 1 MB? Bitcoin has no problem attracting miners. In the 10 years since its inception, it never has.
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You guys are pretty triggered by BSV. Craig Wright aside, How can we deny that the original protocol is NOT Bitcoin? Did you see all the applications being built on BSV? Attacking one character does not constitute a scam given there is a fair economic capitalist model of competition for the miners. When BTC shrinks the blocksize, where the hell do you think the miners are going to go on the next halveneing? Better get all your BTC on the third party lightning network fast boys.

CSW aside ? LMAO, he's the creator and the face of BSV.

Applications built on BSV ? Well that's not Bitcoin, that's Ethereum. What is Bitcoin ? "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System", period.

Next Halving ? Much more expensive Bitcoin means much more reward (FIAT) per block, which compensates the lower number of blocks minted, that's exactly what Satoshi wanted, the real Satoshi.
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
You guys are pretty triggered by BSV.

No we are not. I'm not anyway.
I'm disgusted by the filthy way your master handles things (lie, lie some more) & the potential (hypothetical) damage it could do to BTC. Fair enough?
legendary
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When BTC shrinks the blocksize, where the hell do you think the miners are going to go on the next halveneing? Better get all your BTC on the third party lightning network fast boys.

     Although there have been some notables that advocate for a blocksize decrease with BTC, this idea does not have enough traction to ever be implemented. Also, BSV is also going to have a halvening around the same time as BTC. In fact, BSV will probably go through a halvening before BTC. I don't see the increased block capacity making up for this difference since there is really no fee market in play with BSV. This especially is true since the BSV philosophy is to just hardfork and increase the block capacity. Isn't there talk to just drop the block capacity maximum all together? What incentive do people have to pay more than the absolute minimum fee possible?
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You guys are pretty triggered by BSV. Craig Wright aside, How can we deny that the original protocol is NOT Bitcoin? Did you see all the applications being built on BSV? Attacking one character does not constitute a scam given there is a fair economic capitalist model of competition for the miners. When BTC shrinks the blocksize, where the hell do you think the miners are going to go on the next halveneing? Better get all your BTC on the third party lightning network fast boys.
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If BSV was a scam, why would
@CalvinAyre
 invest $300 Million dollars into mining equipment that loses all its value in less than 2 years?

That’s $300 000 000. Take just 2 seconds to think about it.

Open your eyes people, the  train is full steam ahead, so get on board!

He mines the shitcoin and sells it after pump to unknowing idiots. That's how he gets much more money from his investment.
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I'm a fucking Russian paid shill!

Dude, in your (Trust) sent feedback's you are advertising all scam exchanges and scam projects in the world. (Use google translate coz they are in Russian)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=392914#newfeedback

Please let me know the prices of your shilling service because I would like to hire you for Mr.Craig Wright aka Fuckoshi Scamamoto new projects  Grin ;
legendary
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I am gonna put this here, obviously nobody cares about such things as proofs.

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‘It was tense and there was a bit of shouting.
(snip)

You didn't put a source for your text, which is:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n13/andrew-ohagan/the-satoshi-affair

The story also says this:

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It was about 5.30 p.m. when he finally logged on to his laptop to do for Andresen what he had done for me in his office at home, sign a message with the key and have it verified. Andresen looked on. Wright had just used Satoshi’s key. At that point, it seemed to some of those in the room that Andresen’s body language had changed; he seemed slightly awed by the situation. He reached over to his bag and took out a brand-new USB stick and removed it from its wrapping. He took out his own laptop. ‘I need to test it on my computer,’ he said. He added that he was convinced, but that if people were going to ask him, he had to be able to say that he’d checked it independently. He pointed to Wright’s laptop and said it could all have been pre-loaded on there, though he knew that was unlikely. But he had to check on his own computer and then they would be done. He said the key could be used on his laptop and saved to the memory stick and that Wright could keep it. But for his own peace of mind, and for due diligence, so that there wasn’t a chance of fraud, he had to see it work on a computer that wasn’t Wright’s own.

Wright suddenly baulked. He had just signed a message to Andresen from Satoshi, he said, and had demonstrated his complete familiarity with their correspondence, but, in his mind, what Andresen was now asking for was of a different order. ‘I had vowed,’ Wright told me, ‘never to show the key publicly and never to let it go. I trusted Andresen, but I couldn’t do it.’ Wright got up from the table and started pacing. He had clearly believed he would be able to get through the proof session without this. In fact, he had said in my presence several times over the preceding months that he would never hand the key over to anyone or allow it to be copied or used on someone else’s machine. ‘I do not want to categorically prove keys across machines,’ he wrote to me in an email. To him, this would be to give Satoshi away and perhaps to dilute his own proclaimed connection to him. He went to a chair in the corner of the room and looked up at Andresen. ‘Maybe you and I could get to know each other better,’ he said.

Andresen just nodded his assent. ‘Like, trade more emails,’ Wright said, ‘and I can sign more messages to you.’

At this point, Matthews’s blood ran cold. ‘It was the only time during all the years that I thought: “Jesus Christ, has he been spinning us the whole time?”’ MacGregor too felt this was a very risky moment. He glanced at Matthews. There was no way he was going to let Andresen get back on the plane with that as a punctuation mark. They all felt Wright’s behaviour was ludicrous: he’d demonstrated that he was Satoshi and only had to let this be verified on Gavin’s laptop. End of story.

Wright's supposed signing of messages for the BBC and Andrew O'Hagan were refuted by several other cryptography and blockchain experts, including Pieter Wuille, Christopher Jeffrey and Greg Maxwell.

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After the show aired, veteran cryptographers quickly pointed out that the BBC reporters and Andrew O’Hagan were seemingly duped. The long-winded London Review of Books story that describes O’Hagan’s experience hanging out with Wright for months shows O’Hagan had no clue what Wright was actually signing. Moreover, well-known cryptocurrency developers like Pieter Wuille, Christopher Jeffrey and Greg Maxwell showed the public how Wright pulled off his signing parlor trick.



In addition to all of this, Vitalik Buterin put it most perfectly when speaking at a conference with Gavin Andresen. Basically, Buterin posed the question of why would Wright choose to go the route of proving he could sign a message in front of only a small, select audience when he could just as easily do so in front of the entire world? The fact that he chose the more roundabout way of "proving" something suggests its because he couldn't do it the good way.
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it does not matter who the inventor is, him is considered the one who first registered the patent for the invention

So Pablo Escobar's brother is Satoshi then.

Yes he registred years before. Only thing is he did not renew his claim.

Once again BSV shills fail.
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Dr. Craig owns 1M BTC of Satoshi in Tulip Trust. Access to these bitcoins will be provided to him in January 2020

Tulip Trust is another (failed) attempt of his (not a doctor ffs) fraudulent nature.
We'll be here on Jan 2020, and I will quote you with this on every single - full of lies - post you make.

copyright will remain him with if no one can refute

No one? How about the Chinese guy? How about myself or anybody for that matter? It's a blunt lie you fucking shill.

you took his BTC name from him at the expense of a large hashrate, then you took the bch name in the same way. Now he is against you acts in a similar method, wants to return name of but already with the help of law, do not be offended

the Chinese will not be able to refute, he has less evidence base
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I am gonna put this here, obviously nobody cares about such things as proofs.

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‘It was tense and there was a bit of shouting. There were a few drops during the day about “the evil businessman in the room”,’ MacGregor said. ‘He stopped short of accusing Gavin of having a key-logger, but he clearly wasn’t going to do it. He said he had trust issues, and he’d been attacked, and it had been so long, and he just couldn’t bring himself over the line today, but they should keep talking. And Gavin was willing to do that. But we were like: “No, no, no”. I remember what I said. I said, “Look, Craig, you’ve just been alone for way too long. Gavin has dedicated a huge chunk of his life to what you invented. I think he has the right to see this. He is the friend you don’t have: Stefan and I can’t fill that role for you; Ramona can’t. This is someone who really understands what you have been trying to do.”’

There were long silences. ‘He was on the edge,’ MacGregor said. Matthews was practically holding his breath. He didn’t want to say too much out loud, so he texted MacGregor. The text said: ‘He should call Ramona.’ While MacGregor was out of the room Wright phoned his wife, and she said: ‘Do it.’ Everyone waited with bated breath as Wright used the new laptop to open the Satoshi wallet and set about signing a new message to Andresen. It failed. It wouldn’t verify. He tried it again and again, until Andresen remembered that Wright hadn’t typed ‘CSW’ at the end of the message the way he had in the original, the one he was seeking to verify. When he put ‘CSW’ at the end of his message to Gavin it said: ‘Verified’. Wright had demonstrated, on a brand-new laptop, that he held Satoshi’s private key. They stood up and shook hands and Gavin thanked him for all he had done. There were tears in Wright’s eyes. ‘His voice was breaking,’ MacGregor told me. ‘Gavin could see he was going though something.’ Both MacGregor and Matthews later said that Wright was turned inside out by the session. ‘I didn’t want to just put him in a taxi,’ MacGregor said. Andresen was wiped out, so he went to get some fish and chips, and then headed to bed. ‘Craig broke down,’ MacGregor told me. ‘He said he thought he’d never have to do this. He said he never knew how to trust people in his life.’ Wright and Matthews and MacGregor went off to find a bottle of wine. ‘He was semi-apologising for being a pain in the ass,’ MacGregor told me, ‘but I understood more than ever, at that point, how hard the whole thing was for him.’

When I asked Andresen if he thought ending the Satoshi mystery might be good for the technology, he wasn’t sure. ‘On one hand,’ he said, ‘having a mysterious founder is a great creation myth. People love a creation myth. Knowing the real story might make bitcoin less interesting to people. On the other hand, money is supposed to be boring – something that “just works”, used by most people without understanding how or why it works. I’m excited to see how Craig contributes to making bitcoin work even better than it does today.’ I later met with Jon Matonis, who had been through his own proof session with Wright. He was equally impressed and relieved. He too believed the search for Satoshi had come to an end and he was looking forward to working with Wright, to seeing the patents and the new blockchain ideas. During our lunch in Notting Hill, Matonis suggested that this technology would change the world. One of the scientists said to me, ‘This isn’t Bitcoin 2.0. This is something magnificent that will change who we are. This is Life 2.0,’ and Matonis agreed.
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At first, I wasn't too sure about the whole "scam accusation" thread as I think anyone has the right to invest and believe in a coin, even the shittiest one.
But the more I read morons like alevlaslo, the more I tend to think they're either being paid to shill that BullShitVision or they're just trolling.
Either way, this is pure dishonesty. How is it ok to pump a coin with such obvious lies (Binance's relisting, the whole copyright story, the 50k moving...) ? People are losing money because of you idiots !
Calvin Ayre is a pedo and a scammer, Wright is probably just a puppet but still a scammer.
How can you guys support such individuals and how they do business ?

You wanna debate about technology ? Ok, I have no problem with that. But stop spreading fake news because for that you will be tagged.
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Dr. Craig owns 1M BTC of Satoshi in Tulip Trust. Access to these bitcoins will be provided to him in January 2020

Tulip Trust is another (failed) attempt of his (not a doctor ffs) fraudulent nature.
We'll be here on Jan 2020, and I will quote you with this on every single - full of lies - post you make.

copyright will remain him with if no one can refute

No one? How about the Chinese guy? How about myself or anybody for that matter? It's a blunt lie you fucking shill.
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copyright will remain him with if no one can refute
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it does not matter who the inventor is, him is considered the one who first registered the patent for the invention
Who are you trying to convince ?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/staking-claim-on-bitcoin-does-craig-wrights-copyright-filing-hold-legal-merit

"This copyright registration doesn't prove anything about who wrote the bitcoin white paper," cryptocurrency author David Gerard told Cointelegraph. "Anyone can file a copyright registration on anything — there's no checking. You're just making a claim. Multiple people can claim the same work." Indeed, almost anyone could register a similar claim, so long as they have $35 to spare and know how to fill in an application form.
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 Dr. Craig owns 1M BTC of Satoshi in Tulip Trust. Access to these bitcoins will be provided to him in January 2020
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Why do not you consider this version of events?
Craig recognized the identity of Satoshi and his place of residence, visited him together with his boyfriend and stole or took the private keys!
Why hasn't he signed the address yet?
Waiting for a better price.
And if you provide a signature? What's next? The community will reject it anyway.

... long before the last ATH.
....

And if he found Satoshi after ATH?
I did not say that he found it until 2017! May before filing the registration of whitepaper

You mean if hacked his way to Satoshi's private keys recently? Chances are very slim - next to zero.
He is an imposter bro. Everything he says or does is surrounded by shittery.
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Why do not you consider this version of events?
Craig recognized the identity of Satoshi and his place of residence, visited him together with his boyfriend and stole or took the private keys!
Why hasn't he signed the address yet?
Waiting for a better price.
And if you provide a signature? What's next? The community will reject it anyway.

... long before the last ATH.
....

And if he found Satoshi after ATH?
I did not say that he found it until 2017! May before filing the registration of whitepaper
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Why do not you consider this version of events?
Craig recognized the identity of Satoshi and his place of residence, visited him together with his boyfriend and stole or took the private keys!
Why hasn't he signed the address yet?
Waiting for a better price.
And if you provide a signature? What's next? The community will reject it anyway.

Your logic doesn't stand very well.
If he had the private keys to 1MBTC, you could safely bet that he would have cashed out some amount, long before the last ATH.
But he hasn't - because he doesn't.
That said, if Craig ever provides a signature (not), of course the community will reject it, & of course BTC will come crumbling down (taking everything with it).
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