Topic: [SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits - page 3. (Read 3088 times)

ähm where does he admit multi accounting?

he actually (or she) says his account is fully KYCed. And also says his partner does have an account and might have been multi accounting.

If that person is also able to KYC then this would easily prove his point. That's what KYC is for right? Prove you are 2 different persons using 2 different accounts, and afaik it's the only way to actually prove it.

But white knight LFC knows better.

I also have a question. Let's take this the other way around.

You lose a few bets, and you admit and prove you are multi accounting. Would SP null the bets and repay full deposit too?
If not there is a logic flaw here.

This is saturent.

All what has been posted is absolute bullshit and my account has been compromised ever since, password and email changed.

This thread has lost any credible value since then, I wonder who has done this to me and why, what would be the motive... it is clear.

Absolute shame, everything has been reported to the admins.

Soon you will be banned for ever from bitcointalk, dont even doubt it

What a coincidence that you NEVER posted here before right LFC_Bitcoin?

Dont lie an admit that ahctpacer is one if your altaccounts, as well as Use_Your_Brain

They pay you regularly and as pathetic as you have shown to be, you are even capable of doing all this ridiculous moves.

Maybe it is even you who has stolen my account? Who knows right?  

Could be business partner, dance partner, undomesticated sex partner... don't stereotype sir marlboroza.


It sounded to me like the OP was trying to pin all those accounts on the "partner", what with all the self-exclusion bullshit.

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Since the gambling sites are getting into the habit of not providing any evidence of their claims, I'm gonna use Bitcointalk sockpuppet linking as a guideline here. Blockchain evidence (same wallet) - most likely alts. Betting on table tennis - not alts. Betting and winning - not alts.

Actually, they didn't admit anything:
And, they said they both went trough KYC:
So, according to OP, one customer is cheater and one has only one account. Tricky situation for sportsbet, maybe there is rule in ToS which says "it is allowed to have only one account per household"?

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I don't really understand this:
Totally new account like "new account" or "another new account"?

editing again because I am so damn curious about this.



@OP, is any of these accounts yours or they are all created by your partner?

It does not look good for the OP but we should allow him ample time to at least respond to the multi-account questions being put forward. He also should at least post a reply to to what I asked him earlier: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54970851

I agree SportsBet.io in some way are being a PITA (=pain in the ***) with this multi account thing, but if these are the types of users they deal with ... well, if I were them I wouldn't be sure if I wouldn't do the same things - in the past before we installed a fingerprint system, we had in our site a group of scammers speaking "english berry good, I think admin getpaid berry good" created like 20 accounts and completed the same surveys repeatedly - these were $4 - $8 surveys, high paying ones - we suspended all their accounts because we didn't want the issue to repeat itself.

If we had let them or one of them get paid and realize they can keep on "coming back for more" we would have jeopardized our business relationship with the advertiser - so whilst I agree that maybe some other sites might be lenient and this one seems to be more strict - I think this is up to the site itself to decide how to handle it so long as they have the evidence and now we all got the evidence we were looking for...

I do appreciate what was revealed here anyway and would wait for the OP to explain this or else I would for the first time actually mark my vote - an opposition for a flag created against Sportsbet.io

Thanks for sharing this - even based on that, many things in this case still aren't being handled correctly (my 2 cents) but yeah - this is multi-accounting and while I also still feel that bookmakers use that rule to their advantage (don't care as long as the ppl are losing), I still have to withdraw my flag support for now.

I also have removed my support for the flag, judging by your response which you deleted it seems pretty clear to me that your excuse is that you share a wallet with your partner.

Whether or not that is true, you should see sportsbet.io’s side of this and agree that you have got your deposit back and learn from this to not share a wallet with a partner who has another account as the evidence linking you will be very clear.

Luckily for you it was not an extremely expensive lesson.

I am also sorry to hear that your friend is experiencing a gambling problem and you report that sportsbet.io appear to be abusing this, also reported from other posts on this forum (which for a reason have disappeared), it’s clear that they do not take this seriously and I hope your friend and other forum members can get the help they need.

Saturent,

I'm joining LFC_Bitcoin here and I've removed my support for the flag.

I say it and I've been saying it before - I'm all up for doing the right thing in this community, and I'd like to ask you to kindly explain this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54934126

And this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54970973

Please provide a credible explanation to these issues raised by ahctpacer - if I cannot see a credible/satisfying information then I cannot support your flag.

Oh dear, oh dear.

saturent, admitting to multi accounting right there. I suggest those who supported his flag have a rethink once they see that evidence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2203

Why did you delete your comment, shall we share it for everyone to read?

Support bans player who has been on SB since 2016.




Bitcointalkers...you know parrot lines?? This kiddy support was copy pasting texts and when I found they banned me.

As it stands right now I will be unable to support the flag based on the evidence seen so far in this thread.

Also, as it stands right now I cannot oppose the flag either, again based on the evidence seen so far in this thread.

My best stance on this until something changes is to remain neutral.


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@saturent - in your own words and in a nutshell, what exactly are Sportsbet saying to you in private about the full reasons you will not be getting paid what you feel you are woed. According to the OP, you wrote "AMOUNT REFUNDED: 427 mBTC" and "AMOUNT SCAMMED: 21 mBTC".

Going by what you wrote, it seems highly unlikely Sportsbet would scam 21mBTC after returning 427 mBTC but stranger things have happened so I am going to keep an open mind about this though in my most humble of opinions it really is highly unlikely they are scamming or selective scamming. Anything is possible I suppose.

I think Sportsbet or any other business/casino cannot divulge information here openly in the forum otherwise they will be in breach of various data protection and GDPR rules but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from posting any information to strengthen your case. Is the only thing Sportsbet saying that you deposited BTC from a wallet/address that was used for deposits from other users? Which means at least 3 users including yourself sent money to Sportsbet using the same BTC wallet/address? Is that correct?

Once you post back and state the reasons Sportsbet gave you for seizing 21mBTC could you please also state in the post that you have no objection to Sportsbet confirming or denying the reasons you stated - that way we can try to get to the bottom of what is going on.
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@Sportsbet.io - if we follow a rule that you as a business cannot divulge lots of information regarding a user because of the various data protection and GDPR rules you might breach, could you please wait for the OP who is making the allegation (saturent) to post here to my request for simple clarification about what he says are the reasons Sportsbet told him he will not be paid 21mBTC and after that could you kindly confirm if what he says is correct?

21mBTC is such a tiny amount to be accused of scamming. It seems as I mentioned before in other posts, this seems to be about Sportsbet taking a strong stance against those they accuse of breaching their ToS rather than be about selective scamming.
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Once we all understand exactly what the root cause of this specific issue is then we can make up our minds about whether to support or oppose the flag.

The number of complaints being made against Sportsbet by mostly newbies, mostly for relatively small amounts of BTC means senior members of the community do have a responsibility to investigate the matter then come to a decision about what they think is going on.

You are a SCAM.

There are zero links to my KYC that your "evidence" can proof.

Stop your bullshit, you will fall eventually.

I dont care if you dont refund my money.

YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED.

Most probably I will create my own thread tomorrow.
I am tired of them 45+ days kept me waiting saying Payout will be made soon.... and now after 45 days they have vanished and stopped replying to emails.

Support my flag and create another, this must stop.

Enough is Enough..
Guys becareful the SB team is holding my payout now since 45+ days.
Now they have atopped replying over mail also.

!!Warning!!

This account is a fraud.. LOL


Created to attack complaints against sportsbet.io..

Quote for reference

https://i.imgur.com/koslwVr.jpg

http://archive.md/Ldusu

Hi Saturent,

are you please able to answer the most recent email i sent to you with the multi-accounting (again) accusations?

If you are not able to provide a fair, decent and honest response to this, I have one more to send.

If that is still not able to be answered truthfully, we would kindly ask that you remove the incorrectly placed flag that you have added today..

Thanks for your honesty in advance..

regards,

Steve.