[SCAM] Sportsbet.io seized my profits - page 5.

saturent

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Quote from: nutildah on August 08, 2020, 05:35:07 AM

Not if he was never eligible to receive it in the first place. In that case the net winnings are zero. I already said it would be more ideal if the system flushed out multi-accounters before they placed their bets, but nobody does that.

In short, you are elegible to deposit and lose, then no matter if ToS are being violated, however, once it is time to withdraw, alarms ring and everything is checked to the smallest detail.

Really reasonable.

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Quote from: asche on August 08, 2020, 04:42:01 AM

Quote from: nutildah on August 07, 2020, 05:43:46 AM

Of course I disagree with the word "scam" here because that implies a net monetary loss, which didn't happen no matter how you frame it.

You are very wrong on that nutildah.

The player takes a risk in placing the bet. From the moment the bet is won the money is his. So if he gets anything less returned than his deposits + his winnings it is indeed a loss.

Not if he was never eligible to receive it in the first place. In that case the net winnings are zero. I already said it would be more ideal if the system flushed out multi-accounters before they placed their bets, but nobody does that.

Quote from: asche on August 08, 2020, 04:42:01 AM

It's like if you go to work for 10 days and then you don't get paid, because fuck you. Would you also say that's not a scam because technically you just worked and didn't lose any money? Your reasoning makes exactly 0 sense.

This is an overly-simplified analogy that leaves out relevant details of both real and hypothetical situations.

We're just beating a dead horse here. There's nothing more to be said. What it comes down to is either taking the side of Sportsbet or the side of OP in choosing who you want to believe. Maybe Sportsbet will provide more input into the matter but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Until then I'm going to excuse myself from this conversation because its now quite boring but feel free to continue on if you must.

saturent

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Quote from: adam0991 on August 08, 2020, 04:47:03 AM

Can sportsbet.io just hurry up and resolve this?

I am expecting to hearing from them during the weekend.

saturent

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Quote from: asche on August 08, 2020, 04:42:01 AM

The player takes a risk in placing the bet. From the moment the bet is won the money is his. So if he gets anything less returned than his deposits + his winnings it is indeed a loss.

It's like if you go to work for 10 days and then you don't get paid, because fuck you. Would you also say that's not a scam because technically you just worked and didn't lose any money? Your reasoning makes exactly 0 sense.

Exactly, when the bet is made an agreement is closed btw the booker and the player, which implies that if the bet is lost, the booker takes the money, but if it isnt, the player recovers the money he previously put on risk + profits.

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Can sportsbet.io just hurry up and resolve this?

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Quote from: nutildah on August 07, 2020, 05:43:46 AM

Of course I disagree with the word "scam" here because that implies a net monetary loss, which didn't happen no matter how you frame it.

You are very wrong on that nutildah.

The player takes a risk in placing the bet. From the moment the bet is won the money is his. So if he gets anything less returned than his deposits + his winnings it is indeed a loss.

It's like if you go to work for 10 days and then you don't get paid, because fuck you. Would you also say that's not a scam because technically you just worked and didn't lose any money? Your reasoning makes exactly 0 sense.

saturent

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Dirty, cheating Russian’s. I am not surprised, it’s always somebody else’s fault isn’t it. Bow down to Putin infidels.

Another intentionally created account to go after complaints against Sportsbet.io.

Get your facts together you ignorant.

Quote from: Fag20 on August 07, 2020, 04:46:41 PM

Another Russki scammer haha. These guys are as subtle as a brick through a window.

All betting on table tennis? Skam is obvious is skam, how much are you guys paying the bent player(s)

Hmmmmm

You are a disgrace, pathetic clown.

We paid tons of money to fix table tennis matches to just getting a profit of 0.021btc, thats what you mean, right? Lol how stupid..

Surely hidding behind this account as you dont have the balls to use your main one because you know how ridiculous and stupid you would look.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 07, 2020, 02:12:51 PM

Here we go again with another newbie who seems to know everything about everything... Roll Eyes

Quote from: cabirr on August 07, 2020, 01:58:22 PM

Are we surprised? No! Because Sportbet.io is really very scam project.

You are right that I am a beginner. but I never claimed that I knew everything.

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Here we go again with another newbie who seems to know everything about everything... Roll Eyes

Quote from: cabirr on August 07, 2020, 01:58:22 PM

Are we surprised? No! Because Sportbet.io is really very scam project.

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Are we surprised? No! Because Sportbet.io is really very scam project.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 07, 2020, 06:10:05 AM

Quote from: actmyname on August 07, 2020, 06:00:47 AM

Quote from: nutildah on August 07, 2020, 05:43:46 AM

In your scenario, you're describing a sportsbook that I simply wouldn't play at, but I don't think Sportsbet sees their decisions as "arbitrary." You see them as arbitrary.

I'm describing Sportsbet.io.

Check the Terms and Conditions.

I don't see the word "arbitrary" there.

They doesn't have to include it as there ToS is already very self defensive and trappy to anyone with geniune winnings on the site. It is selective scamming in a way and does not secure users interest if clear reasons are not shown to the customer or player after accusing them of something as empty as multiple accounting.

And, if seen overall even if any casino or sportsbook manages to accuse 5 out of 100 customer's for voliting multi accounting rule they are in all increasing there house edge in an indirect way.

Quote from: Degens on August 07, 2020, 08:29:30 AM

"Perfect" sportsbook would be non custodial. Where the book never has possession of your funds.

Check Degens.com as it uses smart contracts that are audited. It's 100% KYC free. So there is no 'multi account' issues. And nobody at Degens can touch your money.

Centralized sportsbooks won't exist for long IMO. Non custodial, decentralized books fixes all the dozens of problems cited about sportbet etc.

Solid promotion ! Sad

saturent

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Quote from: Use Your Brain on August 07, 2020, 11:47:38 AM

Quote from: saturent on August 07, 2020, 09:12:01 AM

Maybe I will not recover my funds, but Karma will pay back, eventually. Grin

keep smileing

Yeah, there are more and more players having issues with them, so eventually they will have to face it and its going to be negative for them (KARMA).

Go lick their ass, whoever you are you just show how pathetic Sportsbet.io can be as to make low lives like you attack whoever has a complaint against them.

Will just ignore you, you arent worth my time.

Keep "smile-ing" and get lost

Use Your Brain

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Quote from: saturent on August 07, 2020, 09:12:01 AM

Maybe I will not recover my funds, but Karma will pay back, eventually. Grin

keep smileing

saturent

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Quote from: Use Your Brain on August 07, 2020, 10:20:06 AM

Quote from: saturent on August 07, 2020, 09:12:01 AM

spamming since earlier, probably a scammer.

pot calling the kettle black

Quote from: saturent on August 05, 2020, 01:36:40 PM

Maybe I will not recover my funds, but Karma will pay back, eventually. Grin

Lol get out of my thread.

Who the hell are you?

Looks like you intentionally created this Use Your Brain account (and other accounts) to post a thread, discredit and attack the several complaints made against Sportsbet.io.

Are you getting paid by Sportsbet.io to do all this bs? Little man, you are disgusting.

Quote from: Use Your Brain on August 04, 2020, 12:38:13 PM

or are there an awful lot of Russian gamblers getting "scammed" by sportsbet so recent .
so many popping up all of a sudden really makes me wonder

I am not even Russian.

Quote from: ahctpacer on August 04, 2020, 02:05:44 PM

Why put so much font weight into certain words and phrases? Did Rigor1899, neymarjr12 and saturent took the same English class or that's just a Russian thing?

neymarjr12 deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately makes 30+ bets within 4 hours with high stakes up to 80mbtc
saturent deposits 0.5 btc and immeadiately generates high volume of bets in a short period of time with stakes up to 53mbtc

Why hurry to make so many bets?

Saying that "we rushed to do many bets in a short time frame",.. have you ever bet on live events? You sound ridiculous and your accusations are just pathetic.

Insulting our English as well.. At least I can communicate very well while knowing and speaking more than 1 language. I am pretty sure you are limited to only English, you ignorant.

Use your brain and get out of here.

Use Your Brain

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Quote from: saturent on August 07, 2020, 09:12:01 AM

spamming since earlier, probably a scammer.

pot calling the kettle black

Quote from: saturent on August 05, 2020, 01:36:40 PM

Maybe I will not recover my funds, but Karma will pay back, eventually. Grin

saturent

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Quote from: Degens on August 07, 2020, 08:29:30 AM

"Perfect" sportsbook would be non custodial. Where the book never has possession of your funds.

Check Degens.com as it uses smart contracts that are audited. It's 100% KYC free. So there is no 'multi account' issues. And nobody at Degens can touch your money.

Centralized sportsbooks won't exist for long IMO. Non custodial, decentralized books fixes all the dozens of problems cited about sportbet etc.

spamming since earlier, probably a scammer.

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Quote from: Degens on August 07, 2020, 08:29:30 AM

shill piece

Get lost.

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Quote from: saturent on August 07, 2020, 06:49:42 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on August 07, 2020, 06:18:24 AM

1- Sportsbet state in their ToS:

12. BONUS RULES
12.1...

Honestly, I do not even care about these bonuses.

Occasionally, I used one of those boosters on a small bet and only because it was popping up on my slip all the time, otherwise, I would not even bother.

Therefore, these ToS do not apply on my case at all.

"Perfect" sportsbook would be non custodial. Where the book never has possession of your funds.

Check Degens.com as it uses smart contracts that are audited. It's 100% KYC free. So there is no 'multi account' issues. And nobody at Degens can touch your money.

Centralized sportsbooks won't exist for long IMO. Non custodial, decentralized books fixes all the dozens of problems cited about sportbet etc.

saturent

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 07, 2020, 06:18:24 AM

1- Sportsbet state in their ToS:

12. BONUS RULES
12.1...

Honestly, I do not even care about these bonuses.

Occasionally, I used one of those boosters on a small bet and only because it was popping up on my slip all the time, otherwise, I would not even bother.

Therefore, these ToS do not apply on my case at all.

saturent

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Quote from: nutildah on August 07, 2020, 06:10:05 AM

This is standard for most casinos and sportsbooks. Sportsbet is no different in this regard. It's not "fair," and it certainly benefits their business more than if they were to demand KYC from the getgo and check for multi-accounting before betting began, but good luck finding a sportsbook with competitive odds that doesn't do this, and let me know when you do find one.

No worries, I do not need to find the "perfect" sportsbook, as there is none.

Nonetheless, I have seen many other casinos/bookers that accussed a player of multiaccounting and shut their account. But then, they reimbursed the WHOLE account balance as it was when the account was frozen, no exception. And not after one week.. mainly after 24h, only.

My sole mistake was to trust Sportsbet.io ethics. Nothing else.

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