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Quote from: nutildah on August 06, 2020, 11:04:57 AM

Quote from: gosha@e-coin on August 06, 2020, 10:57:05 AM

Luckily enough, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board is investigating matters, as they are also checking the EML from scambookmaker sportsbet.io

You either hacked or bought an account specifically to attack casinos and sportsbooks. Why? Don't pretend its because you "care about the community." You are typing from a hacked account.

If the matter is being investigated already by outside sources, why bother to continue to troll Sportsbet? Surely you should just be happy that Sportsbet will be paying its dues any day now and then continue on with whatever it is that you were doing before you suddenly popped in here out of nowhere.

Sounds correct to be honest...

what even is being stated by this E-gosh account is just not true. An absolute lie and disappointing. We work closely with whatever requests Curaçao Gaming Control Board have and Ive seen nothing come over my desk recently.
Its a shame the coin@gosh just wants to cause trouble instead of contribute to this BTC Talk community.

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Quote from: saturent on August 06, 2020, 09:34:54 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on August 06, 2020, 09:18:25 AM

I don't know what actmyname believes but I believe that if you throw the book at someone you have to be sure about it and have proof to back it up. Particularly considering the dictatorial powers afforded by the T&Cs that don't even require to provide any specific reason for confiscating money.

In other words, the site can surely lean on the T&Cs the way the quote says, and look right and mighty without bothering to justify their actions, but it may erode their reputation if they keep doing this.

Absolutely, because I have no idea about why on the first place I was accussed of multiaccounting, without even being provided with evidence, and then, they post an empty statement where "multiaccounting" is not even mentioned Huh

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This is the negative feedback he left for you:

"Definitely somebody who is working for sportsbet.io now. Is using shill accounts to oppose the flag that was created for sportsbet.io allegation. Is this allowed? Big chance that he is using shill accounts to fill their topic. "

This gosha@e-coin user is trying hard to make himself relevant by posting in the scam accusation section but is really a waste a space, hence he is added to my ignore and distrust list: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-trust-distrust-ignore-list-5262427

Quote from: nutildah on August 06, 2020, 11:04:57 AM

Quote from: gosha@e-coin on August 06, 2020, 10:57:05 AM

Luckily enough, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board is investigating matters, as they are also checking the EML from scambookmaker sportsbet.io

You either hacked or bought an account specifically to attack casinos and sportsbooks. Why? Don't pretend its because you "care about the community." You are typing from a hacked account.

If the matter is being investigated already by outside sources, why bother to continue to troll Sportsbet? Surely you should just be happy that Sportsbet will be paying its dues any day now and then continue on with whatever it is that you were doing before you suddenly popped in here out of nowhere.

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Quote from: gosha@e-coin on August 06, 2020, 10:57:05 AM

Luckily enough, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board is investigating matters, as they are also checking the EML from scambookmaker sportsbet.io

You either hacked or bought an account specifically to attack casinos and sportsbooks. Why? Don't pretend its because you "care about the community." You are typing from a hacked account.

If the matter is being investigated already by outside sources, why bother to continue to troll Sportsbet? Surely you should just be happy that Sportsbet will be paying its dues any day now and then continue on with whatever it is that you were doing before you suddenly popped in here out of nowhere.

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Quote from: SyGambler on August 05, 2020, 03:44:59 PM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 05, 2020, 03:25:36 PM

@jeremypwr, you can write whatever you want to anyone's trust page but this:

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Anyone who discredits Sportsbet should not be trusted.

This has gone too far.

You are directly point it to me and some others who are looking for answers.

Are you saying/suggesting not to question sportsbet? If so then why?

to be fair that was like 4 months ago , not sure what was happening at that time but probably in a response to a scammer who made tons of drama in the past ( no idea what was it tho )

of course anyone can question any site any time when there are valid reasons of doing so.

They keep on scamming and scamming. On the forum, we can only warn others about this fraud organisation.
Luckily enough, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board is investigating matters, as they are also checking the EML from scambookmaker sportsbet.io

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 06, 2020, 09:18:25 AM

I don't know what actmyname believes but I believe that if you throw the book at someone you have to be sure about it and have proof to back it up. Particularly considering the dictatorial powers afforded by the T&Cs that don't even require to provide any specific reason for confiscating money.

In other words, the site can surely lean on the T&Cs the way the quote says, and look right and mighty without bothering to justify their actions, but it may erode their reputation if they keep doing this.

Absolutely, because I have no idea about why on the first place I was accussed of multiaccounting, without even being provided with evidence, and then, they post an empty statement where "multiaccounting" is not even mentioned Huh

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Quote from: nutildah on August 06, 2020, 04:29:56 AM

Quote from: actmyname on August 06, 2020, 04:04:30 AM

"you violated the ToS, therefore it's your fault!"

Do you honestly believe otherwise? If so, why?

I don't know what actmyname believes but I believe that if you throw the book at someone you have to be sure about it and have proof to back it up. Particularly considering the dictatorial powers afforded by the T&Cs that don't even require to provide any specific reason for confiscating money.

In other words, the site can surely lean on the T&Cs the way the quote says, and look right and mighty without bothering to justify their actions, but it may erode their reputation if they keep doing this.

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Quote from: efialtis on August 06, 2020, 08:49:53 AM

Since the related case of neymarjr recently got extremely out of control, proving that professional & unbiased handling & evaluation is impossible here on bitcointalk - unfortunately! - I am about to consult with people working in this industry on portals such as the GPWA & AGD and post some updates when I get them. It's going to be interesting to see reactions over there even though such portals are also somewhat "biased" (1xbet being a platinum affiliate partner, LOL) - good news is, the webmasters and industry professionals in the respective forums are not.

That would be great, I really appreciate it.

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Since the related case of neymarjr recently got extremely out of control, proving that professional & unbiased handling & evaluation is impossible here on bitcointalk - unfortunately! - I am about to consult with people working in this industry on portals such as the GPWA & AGD and post some updates when I get them. It's going to be interesting to see reactions over there even though such portals are also somewhat "biased" (1xbet being a platinum affiliate partner, LOL) - good news is, the webmasters and industry professionals in the respective forums are not.

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Quote from: actmyname on August 06, 2020, 04:04:30 AM

Quote from: saturent on August 06, 2020, 12:20:13 AM

What is your true goal to commenting on these threads?

Are you trying to discredit my report now?

Why would it even be my fault? My fault for choosing to be their costumer, I guess..

Reread what adam wrote: they are not criticizing you nor are they trying to seem unbiased.

Quote from: adam0991 on August 05, 2020, 04:37:54 PM

I don’t think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think that’s because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam

They're basically just saying that a number of users think that it's your fault. Usually, those parroting the same old cliche of, "you violated the ToS, therefore it's your fault!"

Got you, I might have missunderstood some of Adam0991's sentences, apologizes if so.

I am just exhausted of having to go through all of this for only willing to recover legitimate funds, and then being pointed out as the one to blame.

The whole experience with this site was horrible. Sportsbet.io took more than a week to tell me what they would do with my account balance, and during that time I was going insanely stressed, a nightmare, as I did not even know if my deposits would be stolen as well.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 06, 2020, 04:29:56 AM

Quote from: actmyname on August 06, 2020, 04:04:30 AM

"you violated the ToS, therefore it's your fault!"

Do you honestly believe otherwise? If so, why?

They gave multiple ToS and said "we suspect you violated one of the following, so we keep your profits", without even specifiying which ToS.

Then, where is the evidence? What is justifying their actions besides saying that I am suspected of breaching the rules?

As others already said, its their word against mine, as no proof is even given. If they are truly honest, they would give simple and clear evidence, but they are not.

And I am not the only one having funds seized and then not even being given evidence for these actions.

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The true motives for this adam0991 account posting in these threads is unknown but they are clearly interested in trying to make themselves relevant.

Quote from: saturent on August 06, 2020, 12:20:13 AM

Quote from: adam0991 on August 05, 2020, 04:37:54 PM

I don’t think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think that’s because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam But this comment from them certainly seems related.

Given the amount of money involved they will probably avoid commenting on it unless they really have to. The flag did not get enough support either

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Overall it seems that sportsbet are giving extremely generic responses to all these cases, without indulging into any information or reasoning at all, hoping users will just agree and move on

What is your true goal to commenting on these threads?

Are you trying to discredit my report now?

Why would it even be my fault? My fault for choosing to be their costumer, I guess..

Your interactions truly do not make any sense, from time to time you decide to blame one side and then, "suddently", the other.

Are you trying to avoid further negative feedback trying to seem more unbiased?

You really do not seem unbiased to me.

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Quote from: actmyname on August 06, 2020, 04:04:30 AM

"you violated the ToS, therefore it's your fault!"

Do you honestly believe otherwise? If so, why?

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Quote from: saturent on August 06, 2020, 12:20:13 AM

What is your true goal to commenting on these threads?

Are you trying to discredit my report now?

Why would it even be my fault? My fault for choosing to be their costumer, I guess..

Reread what adam wrote: they are not criticizing you nor are they trying to seem unbiased.

Quote from: adam0991 on August 05, 2020, 04:37:54 PM

I don’t think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think that’s because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam

They're basically just saying that a number of users think that it's your fault. Usually, those parroting the same old cliche of, "you violated the ToS, therefore it's your fault!"

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Quote from: adam0991 on August 05, 2020, 04:37:54 PM

I don’t think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think that’s because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam But this comment from them certainly seems related.

Given the amount of money involved they will probably avoid commenting on it unless they really have to. The flag did not get enough support either

—

Overall it seems that sportsbet are giving extremely generic responses to all these cases, without indulging into any information or reasoning at all, hoping users will just agree and move on

What is your true goal to commenting on these threads?

Are you trying to discredit my report now?

Why would it even be my fault? My fault for choosing to be their costumer, I guess..

Your interactions truly do not make any sense, from time to time you decide to blame one side and then, "suddently", the other.

Are you trying to avoid further negative feedback trying to seem more unbiased?

You really do not seem unbiased to me.

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 05, 2020, 02:53:58 PM

Here is what a critically-thinking unbiased person is likely to conclude from your statement:

"pointed out on the forum" - hearsay. Does Sportsbet stand by that accusation and if not - why is it even here in a rebuttal of a customer complaint?

"situations are arising at the moment in regards to Ukrainian and Russian Table tennis" - the situation seems to be that Sportsbet offers those markets, takes bets on them, then reverses those bets.

"This is no coincidence" - possibly, but given that Sportsbet is in control of the aforementioned "situations", it seems more like a systemic deficiency on Sportsbet's part than what you probably had in mind.

"potential motives" - speculation. Spell it out and put Sportsbet's name on it, otherwise it sounds like an underhanded attempt to discredit a customer.

Trying to distort the truth and putting the blame on the player seems likely how Sportsbet.io "fixes" issues with its costumers

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on August 05, 2020, 03:25:36 PM

Quote from: sportsbet.io on August 05, 2020, 07:39:19 AM

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Betting is a form of entertainment and we certainly would never want a player to be in any distress from betting. We have processes in place to help players and will always be vigilant in seeing these through.

If so then I am very interested in this case: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54925391
I will watch this to see where it' going.

I don’t think we will see any further comments from sportsbet on this matter unless more attention is raised to the thread, it has not gained much attention really and I think that’s because most users see it as the fault of the OP and not as a scam. But this comment from them certainly seems related.

Given the amount of money involved they will probably avoid commenting on it unless they really have to. The flag did not get enough support either

—

Overall it seems that sportsbet are giving extremely generic responses to all these cases, without indulging into any information or reasoning at all, hoping users will just agree and move on

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Quote from: mindrust on August 05, 2020, 03:13:46 PM

sportsbet.io's explanation of last events is a complete joke.

It is like it was written by a random forum shill instead of the official representative of the casino.

Be straight, address the issues, post the proofs and everybody will be content.

Do not Turn this into a "there are things you people don't know about" kinda conspiracy theory. (That's our job :d)

Just tell us what it is otherwise shut up.

Well said mindtrust.
I've merited you for this post.

Quote from: saturent on August 05, 2020, 03:38:58 PM

I assume people are getting paid for giving them propaganda, am I wrong?

With their attitude it seems highly likely indeed.

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Quote from: SyGambler on August 05, 2020, 03:44:59 PM

to be fair that was like 4 months ago , not sure what was happening at that time but probably in a response to a scammer who made tons of drama in the past ( no idea what was it tho )

of course anyone can question any site any time when there are valid reasons of doing so.

Okay, fair enough. I am okay with this now.
For some reason I thought this was recent LOL. I did not check the date after seeing it at the top. Where are all those recent feedback left on the wall?

I withdraw my questing on him. Apology to jeremypwr.

Quote from: mindrust on August 05, 2020, 03:30:26 PM

edit: I see that rating is from 4 months ago.

Yeah, bad pick from me. Sorry.

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