Topic: Science and Religion? (Read 1953 times)

You just make the shit up for the stuff you don’t know. Like all religious people do.

You said that you don’t understand how the outside of the universe works, yet you claim that it does not operate based on the cause and effect principle, and in the same sentence you claim that something outside of the universe is the cause of this universe. Just say you don’t know and stop there.  Don’t make the shit up and make logical errors at every step in your fantasy.

To say that you are confused, dumb, and ignorant is an understatement.

Well, I'll take your lack of response and evidence as a win for me. The bible, as I said, has not helped anyone, ever, to invent/create/discover something and you have been unable to prove the contrary, therefore, science > religion by a lot.

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True but maybe since you seem to know so much, could show us how you know that some inventors got the help of the god from the bible specifically to invent something. Otherwise you are just a hoax making unsubstantiated claims.

I knew it. You don't know how to do research.     

I did my research and I found a lot of bullshit about miracles and shit. You are the one claiming some inventors got divine inspiration or were helped by god, how can you possibly know this? Would you mind telling us?

Since you don't seem to know how to do research, you are essentially telling us that your best ideas are all full of holes.

Do you have any single piece of evidence for the claim that inventors asked for gods help and received it? Let me know please because that would be some amazing evidence. I suspect you have no evidence though, just baseless claims as usual. I might as well claim inventors received allah's help or zeus help.

While Christianity is based entirely in faith in God, Christians aren't based entirely in faith. They have physical bodies, which if based entirely in faith, would make science to be based entirely in faith as well.

Much of the evidence of Christianity is spiritually discerned. But the fact of the physical universe is evidence that what the Bible says is true. After all, science doesn't have any facts that things that contradict the Bible are true. The closest science comes is political science, which is essentially just talk.

As far as people accepting things that are real, look at all the druggies who have messed their lives up. Yet many people ignore what can happen if they use drugs, and start using drugs, and continue until they are hooked. Now the whole USA is starting to legalize drugs. People don't always follow what there is evidence for. But the fact that there are millions of Bible-believing Christians shows that there is evidence for Bible truth. Some people can control their drug use.

Multitudes of inventions happened because of the Bible. Do you think that all the inventors of the past received spiritual motivation because of things that were not Scripturally spoken about? Many inventors who were having a difficult time in their business of inventing, asked for and received from God, motivational strength through what they read in the Bible... strength which carried them on so that they could complete their invention(s).

I feel kinda sad for you. You are intentionally, of your own volition, missing out on the greatest motivation around. Whatever placed you into that kind of mindset must be the same thing that place Satan into that kind of mindset.

How are your English studies coming along. Are you improving because of our talks in the forum?

Even if they had faith in some things, it is still not based entirely in faith like christianity. People believe in the bible without any kind of evidence, most people are simply indoctrinated that way, clearly if there was enough evidence for it, most people would accept the bible as real but that is not the case.

Im still waiting for one single invention/creation/discovery that happened thanks to the bible, can you name one?

That's why science is just another religion. Scientists have faith in many of their theories, and the science theory process, as well.

You just say that because of your limited ability to think.     

Yeah, at this point it's basically impossible to even discuss with him, he is literally contradicting himself 2 consecutive times, it's insane and he doesn't even realize it.

As usual... you forgot to consider my previous post, which you quoted, above.

You have to admit you fucked up mate, you literally destroyed your own argument. You are telling me I can't apply anything that happens in the universe outside of it and yet you are the one applying, complexity, cause and effect and other things that are IN this universe, outside of it. Admit it, you are stupid.

From our perspective, The Great First Cause is the cause of the universe. However, we don't even know if The Great First Cause has a perspective, to say nothing about what something like a perspective might be for TGFC.

So, again I show you that I don't have an argument to destroy, one way or another. I'm just posting.

HAHHAHAHAHA, you sure about what you said? So we cant apply universe concepts to outside the universe? Ok.

Question, arent you using the universe concept that everything has a cause and applying it to outside the universe? Hahaha you dummy, you just destroyed your own argument lmao.

Why do you insist on apply universe concepts to outside the universe which we know nothing about except that it is incomprehensible?

It's a nice way of avoiding the question but again, we would still be 2 different entities, people, humans. Humans work together all the time and they do not become 1 giant human or fuse into 1 human, they are still multiple people, your argument again, shows that anything can have different creators, claiming the universe only has 1 is flawed because you have just proved things can and do have multiple creators.

The way we agree on things, as shown by our forum posts, highly suggests that the car we made wouldn't work. So, we just might both be creators of it.