Topic: Science and Religion? - page 6. (Read 1935 times)

Age of the earth, age of the universe proves the bible to be a hoax. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors
There are a ton of scientific mistakes in the bible, again proving the bible to be science fiction.

If another religion has more fulfilled prophecies would you change your religion to that one?

Cause and effect in everything doesn't prove god even if you could prove that everything has a cause which you can't.

How many galaxies,stars are out there? Planets? Trillions and trillions of planets with quadrillions of different things and you claim to know that all of them were caused by something else??? How do you know? Have you been there every time something was created?

What proof do you have that it is a fairy tale? None. On the other hand, I can provide you with lots of evidence that it is not. See my original reply.

Lol, actually modern science was headed by many men of faith, including some of the ones you mentioned, and it was important to them how they viewed the world and did their work. Many inventions have come about by people of faith, and even some from Divine revelation. But I ask you: did evolution create computers or the internet? No. The only way the questioner's question makes sense is with the assumption that "science" proves evolution, and disproves the Bible, which it does not. In fact, science keeps proving many of the things the Bible says (in addition to archeological evidence that it is true, along with other signs such as precisely fulfilled prophecy, etc).

I'm not here to get in a heated debate. But:

A. Tree ring dating is not an exact science, you can get multiple rings (at least 2) in a year. It all depends on the conditions, which I'm sure have varied significantly over the last few thousand years.
B. Some trees can be uprooted and replanted, this could have happened during the flood.
C. Sometimes they'll extend tree ring dates by combining similar looking rings in different trees, which is dubious to say the least.
D. Regardless of the supposed age (and the facts above) why are all of the oldest trees between 4,000 - 6,000 years, or around that? Why not 20,000... 100,000... a million? It's not an exact science, and with room for non-accounted errors, oldest trees fit well within the Biblical timeframe, not the evolutionary one.
E. All the evidence points to a massive global flood.

And let me just ask you: what would you expect to see if there was a global flood? Billions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the Earth, perhaps? Signs of rapid & catastrophic burial? Fossils themselves (do we see fossils forming today under normal conditions? No.)? Fish fossils on the tops of mountains (which by the way, there was much geological activity during the flood, with land sinking and rising)? Polystrate fossils going through multiple layers of rock and coal? Folded mountains and folded & buckled sediment layers (rocks don't bend or fold unless they're soft)? Completely smooth seams of strata? Places where "older strata" is on top of "younger strata" or where the native material for an entire mountain is across the sea on a different continent? Global flood legends, bearing much resemblance to the Biblical account? A genetic population bottleneck? A planet whose surface is mostly water, with plenty more underneath (PS, why is it that they can say Mars must have had a global flood, which currently has no water, and Earth, which is covered with water, can't have had one)? Just what would you expect to find?

Thank you

Of course they were smarter. They kept the earth healthy by technologically working with it rather than against it as we do. That's part of the reason why they lived for as many a over 900 hundred years. Our doctors and researchers don't have a clue as to how to get us to live even 200 years.

Earth was so perfect back then that they only drooled liquid fertilizer from their rear ends. Everything they ate was used in their bodily systems. The little they drooled helped the plants to grow.

I don't know why I waste my time with you. You are so mixed up that a forum the size of this one, full of the best basic knowledge, would barely have a chance of penetrating your ignorance.

I am sure some Bronze Age people were smarter than some people today, as evidenced by the posts in this thread.

But in the end, all of them wiped their asses with leaves while burning cows to appease their delusions. LOL.

Of course you have stats and facts behind this correct?

This being a religion AND science thread, let me say that our modern science is way behind religion. One simple example of this is Chinese traditional medicine, which is connected to their religion, and is way ahead of any medicine the scientific West has.

The Bible is nothing more than a brainwashing fairy tale that had more power in earlier times when life was much more simple and mysteries remained.

If it in inspires and guides you through life, more power to you.

This is the main problem with leap of faith.   You can basically explain anything away as God's plan.   Sorry not buying it.

Cause and effect in everything!

This universe is on the way to being destroyed. Each person gets his proof of it when he dies. The purpose of the Bible is to save souls for the new universe... rather than leave them with this universe and its destruction.

Why would anybody need the Bible for scientific stuff? That's not its purpose?

When you look into what is happening with the thousand-y-o trees, you will find that it isn't really the original trees that are of this age. It's the "children" of much younger trees that have happened to take up residence aroung the circumference of their "parents."

You people who think that there weren't boats in the distance past, that were of the size of some of our medium and large boats, are too dense to realize that people back then were much smarter than you give them credit for.

There are living trees that are older than 4000 years. LOL.

Next time you see doves think about the two doves on Noah's ark. 

You people who believe in this fairy tale are comedians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BzWUuZN5w

What does that have to do with bill gates inveting an operating system? Or einstein? Again, even the religious inventors and geniuses didnt need the bible to do what they did. Does the bible teach the scientific method? Does it teach a better method? Does it teach anything related to engineering, physics, math?

Science has replaced medieval Religion.
People today take the words of so-called scientists for the "ultimate truth", without any doubt.

In my opinion, science provides explanation to things that are comprehensible to human minds. Explanation that is realistic and acceptable by humans since they were presented with concrete evidences. However, religion is all about faith. You are being presented with things that there is a little or no evidence at all. Some things are comprehensible and some are not grasped by human minds, but still some or most of us believe on this. There is no problem what to believe, as long as we are satisfied with the details, thats good enough. We can't really understand it all because it is both vast areas of both similar and contradicting knowledge.

^^^ Religious thought is 100% when perfection exists. This makes it to be not really religious though, but rather, simple life.

Once the first mistake was made (sin), evolution started in the only direction it could go from perfection... downward, otherwise known as devolution.

Not if our ancestors were not capable of religious thought.

At some point our intelligence evolved to the point where we felt the need to explain what happens after we die.
I don't think primitive animals have the ability to think this way.