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April 24, 2019, 10:07:50 AM
#71
^^^ Nobody is telling you that you have to be interested in finding out, enough to search. The reason you don't do your own research is that you think you know already. But if it isn't this, the only thing that is left is that you are trying to hide the truth from others (and maybe clarification from yourself). How do we know this? Because if you simply weren't interested, you wouldn't respond.

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But I did my own research and I was a believer too, how we know this? Because I know myself and I read the bible and God didn't answer, ever, so I stopped believing, it's quite simple really.

The Bible says in at least two places that God answers before we ask. God answered before you asked by having the Bible written long before you picked it up to read it.

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And yet he failed since I'm no longer a believer, is he stupid?
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April 24, 2019, 12:26:53 AM
#70
There's a big contradiction between science and religion but we both study them. Religious beliefs were based in the bible while in Science were based on investigations, observations, facts, and evidence.  But it up to the people what they want to believe since we all have different opinions.

But Science says that the universe is 13 to 14 billion years old. The Bible says it is less than 10,000 years old. Science is wrong. The Bible is right.

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Science and religious views always have contradictions, at some instances there will be coincidence. Science is of existence, while religious views were the one that are associated with the evolution and it is based on trust.
legendary
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April 23, 2019, 11:59:46 PM
#69
There's a big contradiction between science and religion but we both study them. Religious beliefs were based in the bible while in Science were based on investigations, observations, facts, and evidence.  But it up to the people what they want to believe since we all have different opinions.

But Science says that the universe is 13 to 14 billion years old. The Bible says it is less than 10,000 years old. Science is wrong. The Bible is right.

Cool
legendary
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April 23, 2019, 11:58:15 PM
#68
^^^ Nobody is telling you that you have to be interested in finding out, enough to search. The reason you don't do your own research is that you think you know already. But if it isn't this, the only thing that is left is that you are trying to hide the truth from others (and maybe clarification from yourself). How do we know this? Because if you simply weren't interested, you wouldn't respond.

Cool

But I did my own research and I was a believer too, how we know this? Because I know myself and I read the bible and God didn't answer, ever, so I stopped believing, it's quite simple really.

The Bible says in at least two places that God answers before we ask. God answered before you asked by having the Bible written long before you picked it up to read it.

Cool
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April 23, 2019, 06:42:15 PM
#67
There's a big contradiction between science and religion but we both study them. Religious beliefs were based in the bible while in Science were based on investigations, observations, facts, and evidence.  But it up to the people what they want to believe since we all have different opinions.
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April 23, 2019, 06:22:32 PM
#66
^^^ Nobody is telling you that you have to be interested in finding out, enough to search. The reason you don't do your own research is that you think you know already. But if it isn't this, the only thing that is left is that you are trying to hide the truth from others (and maybe clarification from yourself). How do we know this? Because if you simply weren't interested, you wouldn't respond.

Cool

But I did my own research and I was a believer too, how we know this? Because I know myself and I read the bible and God didn't answer, ever, so I stopped believing, it's quite simple really.
legendary
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April 23, 2019, 03:25:05 PM
#65
^^^ Nobody is telling you that you have to be interested in finding out, enough to search. The reason you don't do your own research is that you think you know already. But if it isn't this, the only thing that is left is that you are trying to hide the truth from others (and maybe clarification from yourself). How do we know this? Because if you simply weren't interested, you wouldn't respond.

Cool
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April 23, 2019, 12:36:46 PM
#64
^^^ So, you think you know everything, eh?

You can't even see the evidence, and you have a hard time allowing the Holy Spirit to work faith in your heart. You show us that you are missing a lot. Science shows it to you, as well.

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You tell me to do my own research just to tell me that I think I know everything, make up your mind mate. If I don't agree with you it's because I can't see the evidence, heh not because you might be wrong, huh? Science shows me religion is bollocks, it has been doing it for thousands of years, debunking idiotic myths since forever.
legendary
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April 22, 2019, 04:51:46 PM
#63
^^^ So, you think you know everything, eh?

You can't even see the evidence, and you have a hard time allowing the Holy Spirit to work faith in your heart. You show us that you are missing a lot. Science shows it to you, as well.

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April 22, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
#62

Now why would I want to do that... show you the reports? You wouldn't acknowledge them even if your knew they were fact.

When you are finally destroyed, it will be by your own duplicity.

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''even if'' Exactly, there are no reports of eye witnesses mate, there is only the bible which is a book, there is no way to prove the authenticity of the bible, you might even be able to prove the bible was in fact written thousand of years ago but you would still not prove its content is real.

Thank you. So, if the time ever comes that you want to understand, all you have to do is your own research.

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I Already did, I read the bible and found it to be quite stupid, full of immoral codes and other idiotic mistakes not to mention all the scientific errors. Again, there is no evidence whatsoever that what's written in the bible is real, where are the eye witnesses exactly? They died thousands of years ago if they existed, are we gonna time travel?
legendary
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April 22, 2019, 11:35:26 AM
#61

Now why would I want to do that... show you the reports? You wouldn't acknowledge them even if your knew they were fact.

When you are finally destroyed, it will be by your own duplicity.

Cool

''even if'' Exactly, there are no reports of eye witnesses mate, there is only the bible which is a book, there is no way to prove the authenticity of the bible, you might even be able to prove the bible was in fact written thousand of years ago but you would still not prove its content is real.

Thank you. So, if the time ever comes that you want to understand, all you have to do is your own research.

Cool
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April 22, 2019, 10:53:19 AM
#60
^^^ But consider, for example. The only way to prove evolution is to go into the past and track the DNA of millions of plants and animals to see if any of them change into other plants or animals. So, we don't know if evolution science is fact.

Also, consider the Big Bang. BB Theory uses our modern mat and physics laws to suggest that there was a BB. But BBT says that things were so extremely different right after the BB, that math and physics laws must have been different, as well. So, BBT contradicts itself by saying that BB existed when we have no clue about how to figure out what the operations of BB were with all that different math and Physics. We don't know that BB ever existed.

Bible is eye witness reports with power behind them.

Science is speculation... or downright science fiction.

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''eye witness reports'' Show me the reports and then show me the evidence those reports are real and they were made by the people who claimed they were made, Ill be waiting here.

Now why would I want to do that... show you the reports? You wouldn't acknowledge them even if your knew they were fact.

When you are finally destroyed, it will be by your own duplicity.

Cool

''even if'' Exactly, there are no reports of eye witnesses mate, there is only the bible which is a book, there is no way to prove the authenticity of the bible, you might even be able to prove the bible was in fact written thousand of years ago but you would still not prove its content is real.
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April 22, 2019, 10:22:09 AM
#59
religion was a good push in the beginning. But then only talk people back. The government simply does not need a large mass of educated people, they will begin to see all their crimes and lies.  Undecided
legendary
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April 22, 2019, 08:52:04 AM
#58
^^^ Religion doesn't always involve a god of the kind you are talking about. Sometimes our stupidity pushes us into being a god by thinking that there isn't any god... or that we don't have our personal religion.

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April 22, 2019, 08:16:59 AM
#57
I've stopped thinking that religion is important in our lives, for me it's ok for anybody to believe in what they want, if they think there's some kind of magic entity above the sky that can see us and actually created us, for me it's ok. But I believe in science.
legendary
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April 22, 2019, 07:57:50 AM
#56
^^^ But consider, for example. The only way to prove evolution is to go into the past and track the DNA of millions of plants and animals to see if any of them change into other plants or animals. So, we don't know if evolution science is fact.

Also, consider the Big Bang. BB Theory uses our modern mat and physics laws to suggest that there was a BB. But BBT says that things were so extremely different right after the BB, that math and physics laws must have been different, as well. So, BBT contradicts itself by saying that BB existed when we have no clue about how to figure out what the operations of BB were with all that different math and Physics. We don't know that BB ever existed.

Bible is eye witness reports with power behind them.

Science is speculation... or downright science fiction.

Cool


''eye witness reports'' Show me the reports and then show me the evidence those reports are real and they were made by the people who claimed they were made, Ill be waiting here.

Now why would I want to do that... show you the reports? You wouldn't acknowledge them even if your knew they were fact.

When you are finally destroyed, it will be by your own duplicity.

Cool
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April 21, 2019, 03:55:17 PM
#55
^^^ But consider, for example. The only way to prove evolution is to go into the past and track the DNA of millions of plants and animals to see if any of them change into other plants or animals. So, we don't know if evolution science is fact.

Also, consider the Big Bang. BB Theory uses our modern mat and physics laws to suggest that there was a BB. But BBT says that things were so extremely different right after the BB, that math and physics laws must have been different, as well. So, BBT contradicts itself by saying that BB existed when we have no clue about how to figure out what the operations of BB were with all that different math and Physics. We don't know that BB ever existed.

Bible is eye witness reports with power behind them.

Science is speculation... or downright science fiction.

Cool


''eye witness reports'' Show me the reports and then show me the evidence those reports are real and they were made by the people who claimed they were made, Ill be waiting here.
legendary
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April 21, 2019, 03:06:33 PM
#54
^^^ But consider, for example. The only way to prove evolution is to go into the past and track the DNA of millions of plants and animals to see if any of them change into other plants or animals. So, we don't know if evolution science is fact.

Also, consider the Big Bang. BB Theory uses our modern mat and physics laws to suggest that there was a BB. But BBT says that things were so extremely different right after the BB, that math and physics laws must have been different, as well. So, BBT contradicts itself by saying that BB existed when we have no clue about how to figure out what the operations of BB were with all that different math and Physics. We don't know that BB ever existed.

Bible is eye witness reports with power behind them.

Science is speculation... or downright science fiction.

Cool
legendary
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April 21, 2019, 01:12:44 PM
#53
Science is real and Religious is a story. they only tell you stuff which is told to them. they can not prove what they believe but with science, you can ignore them. I mean common this is 20'th century and there are most people busy on social media or with their tv's or with their pcs rather than spending time with gods.
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April 21, 2019, 11:43:38 AM
#52

Everybody knows that "experiments and science" are not the same thing as books. So, what you say is useless.

The point is that experiments and science used on the Bible, how it came about, the people who wrote it, the prophesies that are fulfilled in it, the continual archaeological excavations, and much more, are all showing that the Bible is the truth. But here is the most important thing of all.

Are atheists human? Are Christians human? Are Muslims human? There are way more people believing in God than those who do not believe in God in some form. This shows that science that is against the Bible is just another religion.

Btw, the whole legal and law system in the USA is based on the British one, which is based on the Bible. Research it.

It's the atheists who are the false religion, and science is proving it all over the place. Atheism is a made-up lie that is against God and against people in general.

Cool

''how it came about, the people who wrote it,'' what about them?

''the prophesies that are fulfilled in it,'' None

''the continual archaeological excavations'' Which ones?

Oh come now. You are turning scientific investigation into a religion.

Cool

And you are claiming outrageous things without any evidence, you think that fulfilling prophecies make a book true? So if I write a book now, I write a few prophecies that turn out to be true, does that mean everything I wrote is also true? Nope, that's a fallacy, it doesn't work like that.

Since you won't accept evidence and proof that oppose the desires of your heart, there almost can't be any presenting of evidence and proof to you.

Cool

Consider this book: it has 10 prophecies and 20 other claims like, god is a flying spaghetti, water can be turned into blood if you clap your hands 20 times and believe in the spaghetti god and others. If some of those ''prophecies'' turn out to be true, would you also believe all the other claims? Shouldn't all the claims be tested separately?
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