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legendary
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April 14, 2019, 06:21:17 PM
#31
^^^ And at times they overlap each other.

However, one of the things that religion shows is that science often says that things are true that are not true.

An example is that science technically says that Big Bang is not true. But scientists say that BB theory shows that it is true. However BB theory is the thing that shows that BB is not true. How? By showing us that things of the past were so extremely different that math and the laws of physics must have been different, as well. Since math and the laws of physics were different, we can't use them to show that BB ever really existed. And it is BB that shows us this.

So, it is the high priests of BB that are suggesting that BB is true against what BB shows us and them. This proves that BB has entered the realm of religion.

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April 14, 2019, 06:12:21 PM
#30
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.
legendary
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April 14, 2019, 06:03:22 PM
#29
For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.

It's easy to prove things when you make up the definition of "prove".   Cool

Now you are simply making up definitions.     Cool
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legendary
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April 14, 2019, 05:42:22 PM
#28
For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.

It's easy to prove things when you make up the definition of "prove".   Cool
hero member
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April 14, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
#27
For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.
legendary
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April 14, 2019, 02:43:27 PM
#26
^^^ But is there any scientific reason why we have to do science? Of course. A good portion of science is religion, because people believe it to be true, and live by it, even though it isn't factually known to be true... science theories.

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April 14, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
#25
Most of the religious activities has some scientifical reasons why we have to do it in our life but if we tell them to people they are not going to hear the importance of it but if was taught with the name of religion then it will be followed by most of the people that is why religions were born.
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April 14, 2019, 04:20:11 AM
#24
I see so many people are saying that science  and religion cannot be in harmony but I think they are in perfect harmony by below logic.

Religion tells you to accept ,follow and speak the truth and science help you to find that truth.
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April 14, 2019, 03:46:53 AM
#23
It depends... priests and scientists offer their truth, so you can choose what you like more...
Public acceptance of scientific facts may be influenced by religion) So depending on who it is concerned, faith is found in both science and religion.
legendary
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February 27, 2019, 08:04:00 PM
#22
^^^ You still want to keep an eye on the traffic, no matter if the signal says "WALK."

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February 27, 2019, 07:34:45 AM
#21
maybe the answer depends on each individual. I think personally depending on how we respond, for example crypto (because we are in this group). according to my religion, there is indeed no specific law regarding this matter, but it depends on how we are describe the existing laws and rules. to be honest not a few who forbid crypto in my religion, but not a few that allow. indeed there are several factors that must be fulfilled according to those who allow it.
so in my opinion, actually these two things can work together and support each other.
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February 27, 2019, 06:30:48 AM
#20
Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?
Religion is a basis for science and its rules. Science is in constant evolution and new facts, while religion is a constant law of good deeds and love of God.
legendary
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February 26, 2019, 11:13:20 PM
#19

Scientists like their job. That's why they try to appease the questioning minds of non-scientists in religious science ways... science theory as fact. If they didn't, the people would lose all their respect for scuentists. Why? Because REAL science takes way too long to find the answers for the most important questions... Heaven, Hell, God, evolution, life without end, lots more.

REAL science are done by REAL humans, who may or may not have burning questions about whether or not there are other life forms apart from the observable and discoverable ones, being studied and analyzed to date. This is not what REAL science, being conducted by REAL Scientists do: it does not presuppose any of the things the words you used may or may not refer to, id est "god, heaven, endless life" etc., which, when analyzed, represents mere speculative (linguistically articulated) social constructs - at best.


Scientists are gradually finding their way to the understanding that God exists. It is taking them too long for people who want the answers now. So, the people turn to religions that tell them the answers way faster than the scientists will ever figure the same answers out.

Scientists understand that the people are sticking with their religion. So, they have to keep the science excitement alive to keep the people interested. How do they do it? By touting science theory as fact when, they know that they are only guessing that it is fact. But the people don't know that the scientists are guessing. They believe the scientists when they say that the theories are reality... even though the scientists don't know this.

The amazing thing is that many scientists can't even see God in the marvels of the universe that they, themselves, are discovering.

Science fact is great.
Science theory that is believed to be fact is religion.

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February 26, 2019, 08:23:03 PM
#18

Scientists like their job. That's why they try to appease the questioning minds of non-scientists in religious science ways... science theory as fact. If they didn't, the people would lose all their respect for scuentists. Why? Because REAL science takes way too long to find the answers for the most important questions... Heaven, Hell, God, evolution, life without end, lots more.

REAL science are done by REAL humans, who may or may not have burning questions about whether or not there are other life forms apart from the observable and discoverable ones, being studied and analyzed to date. This is not what REAL science, being conducted by REAL Scientists do: it does not presuppose any of the things the words you used may or may not refer to, id est "god, heaven, endless life" etc., which, when analyzed, represents mere speculative (linguistically articulated) social constructs - at best.

legendary
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February 26, 2019, 07:00:07 PM
#17

The problem with this is, it will take thousands of years for factual science to catch up with today's major religious assumptions... to show which assumptions are scientifically true, and which aren't. People don't have time to wait around for thousands of years.
So, science appeases people by stating many science theories as though they were factual, when nobody knows if science theories are factual. In essence, science is simply making science religion when it does this.

Science has been around for thousands of years, because it is people that does the collecting of data and experimentation. It took thousands of years for science to get where it is, exactly because science is about the process of collecting data and experimenting, to build a strong knowledge base upon which new discoveries are made and confirmed. If people do not have time to wait around, it is fine, no worries. The current knowledge base will be handed down, generation upon generation for thousands of years to further the cause of science, which is about understanding the nature of reality. True science is not interested to appease anyone, but rather to continue investigating and explaining phenomena. This is how science operates - it integrates a cohesive knowledgeable worldview.


Scientists like their job. That's why they try to appease the questioning minds of non-scientists in religious science ways... science theory as fact. If they didn't, the people would lose all their respect for scuentists. Why? Because REAL science takes way too long to find the answers for the most important questions... Heaven, Hell, God, evolution, life without end, lots more.

Cool
sr. member
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February 26, 2019, 04:06:57 PM
#16

The problem with this is, it will take thousands of years for factual science to catch up with today's major religious assumptions... to show which assumptions are scientifically true, and which aren't. People don't have time to wait around for thousands of years.
So, science appeases people by stating many science theories as though they were factual, when nobody knows if science theories are factual. In essence, science is simply making science religion when it does this.

Science has been around for thousands of years, because it is people that does the collecting of data and experimentation. It took thousands of years for science to get where it is, exactly because science is about the process of collecting data and experimenting, to build a strong knowledge base upon which new discoveries are made and confirmed. If people do not have time to wait around, it is fine, no worries. The current knowledge base will be handed down, generation upon generation for thousands of years to further the cause of science, which is about understanding the nature of reality. True science is not interested to appease anyone, but rather to continue investigating and explaining phenomena. This is how science operates - it integrates a cohesive knowledgeable worldview.

legendary
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February 26, 2019, 03:11:55 PM
#15

Religion is about believing what you desperately want [to be true] (or having been taught you should be wanting/needing) and holding on to that belief no matter what. In essence, religion encapsulates.

Science is about discovering the nature of reality through many trials and errors, a never-ending process. Science builds on knowledge, based on discovered truths. In essence, science liberates.

Through science, you can live an integrated, knowledgeable life. Through religion, you can live a compartmentalized, wishful-thinking life.


The problem with this is, it will take thousands of years for factual science to catch up with today's major religious assumptions... to show which assumptions are scientifically true, and which aren't. People don't have time to wait around for thousands of years.

So, science appeases people by stating many science theories as though they were factual, when nobody knows if science theories are factual. In essence, science is simply making science religion when it does this.

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February 26, 2019, 03:01:58 PM
#14
Science is a search for the evidence that have been portrayed through historical works on scripts. It is evidential.

Religion is the evidence that something beyond science has control over each and everything functioning in the universe. It is belief.
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February 26, 2019, 03:00:25 PM
#13
Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?
There are many contradiction in science and religion and those contradiction is the way the religion leaders miss interpret the scriptures. Science is absolute and so God is and at the end I think science explain God than our religion leaders.
Agreed. There are more scientific attributes to a higher power than there are that can be explained by religious leaders. Even the pope has said that there may be aliens among us or in out space.
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February 26, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
#12
Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?
There are many contradiction in science and religion and those contradiction is the way the religion leaders miss interpret the scriptures. Science is absolute and so God is and at the end I think science explain God than our religion leaders.
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