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April 17, 2019, 10:02:34 AM
#45

2. Old books and their expertise is useless. There are thousand of old books talking about all kind of idiotic things that have been shown to be false, magic, witches, etc. I don't see how old books are better than the scientific method in anything.

Tell that to the court system of any modern countries. Tell that to the medical system that keeps records of all the experiments that they can. Tell that to any scientist so that he can throw out his journals. You entirely contradict yourself.

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''experiments and science'' is different than fictional books like the bible, has any court system used the bible to apply any law today? Yeah, I thought so buddy.

Everybody knows that "experiments and science" are not the same thing as books. So, what you say is useless.

The point is that experiments and science used on the Bible, how it came about, the people who wrote it, the prophesies that are fulfilled in it, the continual archaeological excavations, and much more, are all showing that the Bible is the truth. But here is the most important thing of all.

Are atheists human? Are Christians human? Are Muslims human? There are way more people believing in God than those who do not believe in God in some form. This shows that science that is against the Bible is just another religion.

Btw, the whole legal and law system in the USA is based on the British one, which is based on the Bible. Research it.

It's the atheists who are the false religion, and science is proving it all over the place. Atheism is a made-up lie that is against God and against people in general.

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''how it came about, the people who wrote it,'' what about them?

''the prophesies that are fulfilled in it,'' None

''the continual archaeological excavations'' Which ones?
legendary
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April 17, 2019, 08:20:04 AM
#44

2. Old books and their expertise is useless. There are thousand of old books talking about all kind of idiotic things that have been shown to be false, magic, witches, etc. I don't see how old books are better than the scientific method in anything.

Tell that to the court system of any modern countries. Tell that to the medical system that keeps records of all the experiments that they can. Tell that to any scientist so that he can throw out his journals. You entirely contradict yourself.

Cool

''experiments and science'' is different than fictional books like the bible, has any court system used the bible to apply any law today? Yeah, I thought so buddy.

Everybody knows that "experiments and science" are not the same thing as books. So, what you say is useless.

The point is that experiments and science used on the Bible, how it came about, the people who wrote it, the prophesies that are fulfilled in it, the continual archaeological excavations, and much more, are all showing that the Bible is the truth. But here is the most important thing of all.

Are atheists human? Are Christians human? Are Muslims human? There are way more people believing in God than those who do not believe in God in some form. This shows that science that is against the Bible is just another religion.

Btw, the whole legal and law system in the USA is based on the British one, which is based on the Bible. Research it.

It's the atheists who are the false religion, and science is proving it all over the place. Atheism is a made-up lie that is against God and against people in general.

Cool
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April 17, 2019, 07:37:12 AM
#43

2. Old books and their expertise is useless. There are thousand of old books talking about all kind of idiotic things that have been shown to be false, magic, witches, etc. I don't see how old books are better than the scientific method in anything.

Tell that to the court system of any modern countries. Tell that to the medical system that keeps records of all the experiments that they can. Tell that to any scientist so that he can throw out his journals. You entirely contradict yourself.

Cool

''experiments and science'' is different than fictional books like the bible, has any court system used the bible to apply any law today? Yeah, I thought so buddy.
legendary
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April 17, 2019, 01:03:09 AM
#42

2. Old books and their expertise is useless. There are thousand of old books talking about all kind of idiotic things that have been shown to be false, magic, witches, etc. I don't see how old books are better than the scientific method in anything.

Tell that to the court system of any modern countries. Tell that to the medical system that keeps records of all the experiments that they can. Tell that to any scientist so that he can throw out his journals. You entirely contradict yourself.

Cool
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April 16, 2019, 03:09:08 PM
#41
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

Cool

Maybe, however it's still the best system, what else is there, trusting old books blindly doesn't seem like a very good alternative to me.

Actually, two better methods are:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. Letting the experience of others guide you (old books), and proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

Cool

2. Old books and their expertise is useless. There are thousand of old books talking about all kind of idiotic things that have been shown to be false, magic, witches, etc. I don't see how old books are better than the scientific method in anything.
legendary
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April 16, 2019, 09:35:59 AM
#40
^^^ The inconsistency lies in the incomplete view of things. For example. Science doesn't make anything happen. It's engineering that makes things happen.

Most of the time people don't formally investigate the science of thimgs, but just engineer them into existence. People do this everyday, around the home and in the garage. You have heard the term "backyard mechanic."

There is a lot less to science than there is to engineering. In fact, it's the engineering that often shows what is wrong with a particular science, and then the science is changed to reflect what the engineering has found out. Science is given credit when it was really engineering that did it.

Same with religion. Formal religion usually has to do with making things better. It's personal religion that activates the life of every person.

Most of the time people don't conform in their personal religion to what their formal religion dictates. Yet they continue to use the formal name of their formal religion. This makes the formal religion look good, or look bad, based on the actions of the personal religions of its formal adherents.

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April 16, 2019, 08:48:39 AM
#39
I've read an interresting quote back in the days that goes like, science made planes fly people to their destinations, religion flies planes into buildings, something like that. I don't totally agree but it shook me a little bit realizing what religion and blind faith can do to any individual. Religion did have a lot to do with people being moral and righteous but there seems to be an inconsistency there.
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April 16, 2019, 01:23:10 AM
#38
This has been talked a lot of times and gets repeated. Both have a very different features. When you do talk about science it is all about solutions or answers to what we can see or touch tho sometimes it only provides a theory.

Religion on the other hand keeps the people intact. Most of the time it defines a value of brotherhood and most especially for spiritual purposes.

Don't get the wrong idea from those atheists spreading their own beliefs. They simply are the opposite of being religious.

Both science and religion plays a very important part as we lived in this land. If you want knowledge know things base on scientific  studies. If you want to feel the relief or finding your purpose on this planet find an entity that you can rest all your burdens and fears.
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April 15, 2019, 05:11:22 PM
#37
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

Cool

Maybe, however it's still the best system, what else is there, trusting old books blindly doesn't seem like a very good alternative to me.

Actually, two better methods are:
1. Placing the correct interpretation on the results shown by the scientific method;
2. Letting the experience of others guide you (old books), and proving them by the pleasure or pain that follows.

Cool
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April 15, 2019, 03:41:43 PM
#36
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

Cool

Maybe, however it's still the best system, what else is there, trusting old books blindly doesn't seem like a very good alternative to me.
legendary
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April 15, 2019, 03:16:30 PM
#35
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.

Then after the scientific method does its work, we have scientists expressing their beliefs about what the scientific method found, rather than what the scientific method DID find.

Cool
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April 15, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
#34
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.

Answering something and explaining something is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. Religion might answer things, however answering things doesn't make them true. If you ask me what or who made the universe and I ''answer'' that the spaghetti god did it, you wouldn't trust me, would you? Well that's an answer, it's not an explanation. Even explanations can be wrong, of course, we need a method to determine whether or not they are wrong, the best we have is the scientific method which by the way, clearly works.
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April 15, 2019, 09:48:50 AM
#33
Most of the if we look to the science it contradict from religion but also tells us to understands it. Then how to comprehend this when the both of these things are really important in your life?

It's very simple for me, really.
Science talks about nature, universe, external world.
Religion talks about internal dimension of our life, spiritual world, our spirit.
If you see it from this viewpoint than religion and science can coexist together and even cooperate without any problem.
After all, God said in the Bible that in his eyes 1 day can be as 1000 years and 1000 years as 1 day.
So, don't understand everything literally in the Bible and you will be fine.


legendary
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April 14, 2019, 06:21:17 PM
#32
^^^ And at times they overlap each other.

However, one of the things that religion shows is that science often says that things are true that are not true.

An example is that science technically says that Big Bang is not true. But scientists say that BB theory shows that it is true. However BB theory is the thing that shows that BB is not true. How? By showing us that things of the past were so extremely different that math and the laws of physics must have been different, as well. Since math and the laws of physics were different, we can't use them to show that BB ever really existed. And it is BB that shows us this.

So, it is the high priests of BB that are suggesting that BB is true against what BB shows us and them. This proves that BB has entered the realm of religion.

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April 14, 2019, 06:12:21 PM
#31
Science does not have all the answers, there are mysteries in this world that may be difficult to unravel using just science, Religion does not a hold all the answers also, there are many "supernatural" assumptions that are easily explained by science.I guess science and religion complement each other.
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April 14, 2019, 06:03:22 PM
#30
For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.

It's easy to prove things when you make up the definition of "prove".   Cool

Now you are simply making up definitions.     Cool
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April 14, 2019, 05:42:22 PM
#29
For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.

It's easy to prove things when you make up the definition of "prove".   Cool
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April 14, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
#28
For me scientist proves the power of god . Sometimes they are opposite once the scientist statement . Once the scientist discover something it is proves that god exist and every powerful. But incase Im choose I will pick my religion because all the event that say in the bible possible in the future are for sure it will happened soon.
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April 14, 2019, 02:43:27 PM
#27
^^^ But is there any scientific reason why we have to do science? Of course. A good portion of science is religion, because people believe it to be true, and live by it, even though it isn't factually known to be true... science theories.

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April 14, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
#26
Most of the religious activities has some scientifical reasons why we have to do it in our life but if we tell them to people they are not going to hear the importance of it but if was taught with the name of religion then it will be followed by most of the people that is why religions were born.
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