Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 4. (Read 845654 times)

Science shows us that it is very difficult if not impossible for two, different species to mate successfully. It's hard enough believing that evolution could have happened once because of the complexity involved. But twice at the same time so there would be a mate? Out of the question.

Logically science can not prove the existence or even the non-existence of what we call "god", the last one is supposed to be behind science and behind logic, it is the power above all powers and forces, even so, science disapprove tje idea that life came from one couple (adam and eve). Scientists says that life can not start from just one couple and it can not give all these species, about that Darwins theory is the closest theory of evolution 1nd not the existence.

So, why did you leave out the part I wrote about energy not being created or destroyed?

The fact of all energy existing, doesn't necessarily have anything to do with its simplicity or complexity. This means that entropy could be in an entire system, the system becoming simpler in its action and reaction with itself.

Our observations show that the forms that energy exist in are going from complex to simple... entropy.

Can you tell me the probability of life forming by itself/ accident in the given time of earth's age? How long does it take for elements to come together and form a living organism? If you knew the answer, you wouldn't have said that energy from the sun creates life.

If you put necessary elements that are needed to form as a living organism in a jar/ planet, it would take trillions of years for them to form, and that's just the estimate when we account for the probability. Earth is not that old.

Entropy refers to an entire system and not an isolated part. Energy coming from the sun powers the creation, sustenance, and evolution of life and all of its complexity.

It's all around you. The simple way to say it is 'entropy'. Things gradually change from complexity to simplicity, not the other way around. When they appear to go from simplicity to complexity, it's because there is even greater complexity that "programmed" this appearance. In other words, there is lack of scientific knowledge about how deep the complexity goes.

This doesn't have anything to do with the fact that energy can't be destroyed or created. Rather, it has to do with the modality of the energy... the way it exists and reacts with and upon itself.

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In order to back up that statement you have to show that a construct is the only possibility, and that there are no other possibilities, including inconceivable ones.

Otherwise, it is only your opinion and not a fact.

Complexity of the universe, the Earth and life, is almost scientific proof for God all by itself.

When you realize the depths of this complexity, you will see that it couldn't have happened by accident. It's too big and too complex to be anything other than a construct.

Constructs have constructors.

There is no scientific proof that God exists. The concept of God is based on personal faith and beliefs, which cannot be proven or disproven using science.

We were created by another form of life - God. The only thing that created us was God, so there isn't any "everything that created us" to it. Why? Because all of life that we are is encapsulated by all the physics of the universe. Without every aspect of the physics of the universe that exists, we would be different. The only thing great enough to make the whole universe work together is God.

We simply are not aware of enough science to suggest accurately that another form of life that is not God could have aided in our creation.

God attempts to communicate with us through nature. But it doesn't seem to work. So, He went to all the trouble of making a "Bible" for us, with the idea that we pray, and the answer will be found in the Bible. But we even resist this form of communication with Him.

Science has proven Cause and Effect (C&E), Entropy, and great Complexity. These cannot exist in their current form without God. It is only Someone like God that can stabilize them as they are, universe-wide.

just because we were created does not mean that we were not created by another life form. we cannot look at everything that created us as god. we as humans can create and sustain things even with our limited technological knowledge. another life form could have created us, god could have created us (if it exists). unless god communicates with us or we see with our own eyes that he communicates with someone, we cannot be sure. without proof, every human being will believe what they think is true. what is certain is to believe in something that we know exists, just like we know that bitcoin exists (unless it is an illusion or a dream).

Scientific proof that there is a god? I have read completely different scientific studies of human evolution

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Let us imagine, there is some sort of energy before the big bang ( time and space doesn't exist ) so just imagine it.
This energy after some trillions of trillions of years magically starts creating matter, and magically totally by accident creates the universe in under 15 billion years, so taking the laws of probability into account, universe could not exist as it does today in such a short period of time.

Maybe you haven't heard of this, sub-atomic particles could potentially communicate with each other from vast distances using quantum entanglement and no one knows what encryption method they could be using in order to secure the transmission as well as knowing who is communicating with whom.

Diving a little bit deep, there is this thing called the water memory, search about it, you'll be amazed.
There is also this thing we call planet earth, it hosts millions of species and thousands of trillions creatures, full of life and color, yet no other planet, even in our solar system has this ability, random accidents would never lead to such selective positioning. Random events won't result in a perfect solar system with perfect conditions for life to grow and thrive.  If anyone is asking for scientific proof of God existence, they should first explain all of this, explain how could all of the universe, life and us exist by random, coincidence?


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God's creation is really complicated...humans can never match Him...even though God gives a lot of time to study it.
Human knowledge is indeed little when compared to God who has knowledge as wide as the universe...so why do people always wonder about God's existence if the evidence is all around us...surrender and prostrate to God..

You are so playful. The Almighty God, of course. The Great One Who created everything.

According to His own will, He exists forever, and outside of forever. He exists within this universe and outside of it.

His power is immense and perfect. As high and far as the furthest reaches of space are away from Earth, so much higher than our thinking is His thinking.

However, because of His love for us, and His pity for our weak condition, He acts humbly with us. But, He expects us to be humble with Him. His great mercy gives us time to change from our prideful ways...

Which god or gods though?

It absolutely doesn't explain much about God and His nature. It doesn't even prove that our idea of what God is fits.

To somebody that isn't interested, nothing proves anything. Attempting to prove the existence of God using those 3 things will work, however.

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