Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 2. (Read 845662 times)

Scientists can't prove the existence of God, they can only be aware of his existence, not to prove his existence with fallible human senses. In the consciousness of all there is that gap that need be filled, in your consciousness there is one God...

The Bible is a book of science because it explains the science of the universe. How does it explain this? The universe is a complex machine full of complex machines. How do we know? We know it because we take ALL of our inventions from examples that the universe shows. Further, our inventions are ALL made out of the inventions of the universe in one way or another.

What does this have to do with proving God? Take the example of a car company. Car companies make some pretty good machines. They are far from perfect. But they are really excellent for what they are.

If there isn't a wise, guiding mind behind everything done in a car company, the cars simply won't work... or the parts won't fit together.

Look at the universe, this machine of machines. It works together way better than a car company does. And you can't even break the physics of the universe. The best you can do is convert to a different form of physics, one that is already in existence. Even destruction operates according to the physics of the universe.

Machines have makers. And the religious definition of "God" fits the Maker Who made the universe.

By this simple correlation you can see that God exists. But your denial of Him is okay. He gives you the freedom to deny Him to some extent. Just don't deny Him for too long, or you will be locking yourself into denial of reality. Kinda bad for your health.

the bible is just a book of stories.. it is not science
its a book of stories aimed to teach you morals via analogies of different characters lives created by story writers

secondly mentions of "jesus" have been edited and twisted many times over hundreds of years in different scriptures before ending up in the bible

thirdly the earliest scripture even mentioning at all of a character named jesus was a scripture that appeared 30 years after laters stories quoted death date of their character..
fourthly the first mention of the characters death story didnt appear for another 30ish years

people only talked about the character around campfires and within preachy teachings of morals long after the supposed character existed

the stories mutated over the years and different people added their own details to make the story more entertainy, moral compassy

the bible is not science. its sci-fi character generation over years from a patchwork of lots of different stories where scholars and priests then patch together different idea's and created a narrative hundreds of years after the stories began

the scholars and priests became a government and made laws and used stories to teach the morals of the laws and then to avoid them being stoned by a unhappy populous they hid away their involvement in law creation and instead blamed it on the mystical man

much like how modern congress does not blame itself but says "its the government"

^^^ Are you calling the Satan the main character? I see you haven't read the Book.

But that's okay. I was just hoping that you would see (for your sake and benefit) that the science in the Bible bypasses any science that we have in this life outside of the Bible. At least Nassim Harameing is coming a bit closer to scientific reality.

now you are just spouting nonsense rhetoric from a book you read produced long after the dates in which the book purports to be concerning
nothing you said in blue has any science basis


also in your pre-medieval sci-fi novel, in the end people did get him, pin him to a post and by easter he was gone for good.. seems the people won and the alien you adore lost the fight

when he was dragging his death post.. no one, no act of nature, no magic, no super power was smiting or harming guards ordering him to keep moving

no one/nothing stopped the guy that hammered the nails
no one/nothing stopped the swords or the thorn headwear

so although its a ancient sci-fi novel that meant to be just a storybook of moral judgements.. you might wanna check that in the end the main character lost

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oh wait they did write a sequal where he did return again and again he did threaten that he would come back again on judgement day
they made a movie about it,.. terminator 'ill be back'
i guess god is AI and jesus was a robot

Generally speaking, the Vatican is against God, even though they acknowledge His existence.


God is an alien. However, He is also a 'prototype' as Jesus the man. As a man, God exists throughout all eternity, simply because He is God, as well.

Why would God make Jesus to be God? For the simple fact that He was not going to let Satan or weak people divert Him from what He wants. As the God-man, Jesus can control everything. He controls as he does, simply to give us all freedom. That's the kind of Guy God is.

God is giving all people power. Those who believe in Jesus will get life with Him, forever. Those who do not believe in Him will get death forever and ever. They will get death by their own doing, by using the God-power that God is giving everyone to destroy themselves by not accepting Jesus, the only real power for people.

again you are thinking of 'him' in humanoid form..
funny because if 'he' was one man in these modern times. he would be shackled up and put in prison before he could even touch 100 other people negatively

unless you think he is some magic wizard that would instantly appear in full adult maturity and cause international chaos that only affected those that criticise him

what you have to realise is god is a concept where law makers can affect peoples lives but then explain the blame onto some concept no one can touch. and then the same law makers of olden days make laws to never question the blame shifted concept.

when you work out that old age priests were the ultimate puppetmasters of control of law post 0 millennia of current calendar , to move away from greek, ancient roman concepts of law to introduce the Vatican as the new government. you will soon learn how the word "god" was invented

it took many centuries to go viral. but the vatican knew what they were doing, playing the long con

What if I told you that if things that you say contradict the Bible... that's okay. Nobody can understand the greatness of God Almighty.

Let me warn you, however. There will be a resurrection of all people. God will do it. He is so great that it will be an easy thing for Him to do.

In the resurrection, if you are found to not have been on His side in this life, in favor of Him as a man in this life, sentencing will not go well for you.

In addition, while that subject has to do with religion, finding God in a scientific way will probably help with your finding of the correct religion.

you still envision god as a humanoid HA
you still have much to learn

god is not a sentient single being.
"god" is the energy in all matter and living things. hence the words "god is everywhere" "god created all things"

what if i told you everything you have read in your bible are not words of god(single humanoid), but of a bunch of people that learned to write in later years and made up moral stories some based from moral campfire spoken stories told to them by others, which meant to teach people ethics and morals.

what if i told you these writers didnt want to get blamed for being so judgemental so invented a humanoid being to distract the attention away from the writers being blamed for teaching judgemental passages and make it sound like some mystical being that cant be touched said it

much like congress make laws, where congressmen write/pass the laws but then pretend they are not to blame and that its "government" that created the law not the individual congressmen

Exactly!... sort of. Nassim Haramein actually explains in some of his videos about the vibrations in the aether. These vibrations are the 'sound waves' from the voice of God. Nassim even explains it that way... sort of.

Material is also vibrational frequencies at its base... like light is both particle and wave. The vibrations of the aether that fill all of what we call space - even the space between the subatomic particles of the atoms - is really complex vibrations that order the way the material universe works. In other words, the way the Einstein describes things is only a tiny 'speck' of the gigantically elaborate and complex way that the universe works.

The voice of God controls it all. And since God came to Earth in the form of Jesus, the man, God is also a man. Jesus is like a Superman Who controls everything with the Almighty Power of God... to the extent that He is God.

Some have said that they have debunked Nassim's science. But all they have done is to neglect looking at or considering the rest of science that exists for anyone to see who is willing to take a look.

and what created and controls the whole universe.. not some giant in the clouds, but the energy of plasma waves of different frequencies that form to create and power everything ever in existance. energy is immortal

The online dictionary at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/God describes "god."
But this is lower case 'god'. Upper case God is the Almighty, Who created and controls the whole universe.

to prove the existence of god, first needs to describe what is god to then use as a control element that all scientific tests can compare to, to validate the test

so lets start there
many people imagine god as some humanoid 'jack and the beanstalk' giant living in the clouds
some think his is some ancient alien

what if we go with the hypothesis that our moral compass, the voice inside our head that tells us not to put our hand in a fire or touch the pointy side of a knife is 'god'

so beginning with our subconscious. what is our subconscious. well at basic level its the neurons firing in our brains programmed by nurture and nature.

at a deeper level its electrons firing between conductive fibres
at an even deeper level its waves of plasma working at a certain frequency that unite to form all things from gluons, neutron, protons, electrons

so what if god is the ultimate base wave of plasma frequency that then sonic boomed into all frequency waves that then attracted or repelled or coalesced to become all elements of the periodic table and all matter and all life

which god ?
so many religion are sayin we are descendants from one man and one women
it does also prove the one and first cell theory The Origin of All Creation

Scientific proof that god exists? There is no such thing at all, science is science, it's about physical life, physical world, nature, mathematics, chemistry, it's just about what we see or what we can make a scientific theory about, god is something totally different, god is an idea, god is about spiritual world, it's about faith, it's about consciousness, you can't relate those two things, i think that it is impossible, not impossible it's ridiculous to say that we can prouve that god exists with science.

I'm sure just as amazed as you are about the sun rising.   

Amazement keeps you young.

God is inside of the universe and outside of it. He sustains it and Himself, as well. God is an alien, but also human.

God is so extremely great, that He probably has many universes. These universes are so extremely different than each other, that the word 'different' is way too weak. If the universes weren't different than each other, they would be part of each other, and not many other universes.

I'm amazed that you keep limiting yourself and your understanding.

But that extremely powerful Being must have been created (or sustained) in a medium we call the universe, but would more fittingly be called "God".

One of the strongest religions is the intentional non-use of science to prove that God exists. Simple scientific proof for God is easy. Here is how:

Scientific evidence for simple machines is quite evident by the fact that people use simple machines all over the place. In fact, the machines that people make and use ALL have their base in the machinery of the universe. Because of this, the natural machinery of the universe CAN be called 'machine'. Machines have makers, including the universe machine.

Any machine like the universe must have a very intelligent, extremely powerful, Being that made it. The definition of such a being would fit the definition of our word 'God'.

while science and religious views are not fundamentally incompatible, science demands strict standards of falsifiability and empirical evidence to constitute proof. As God is a non-natural concept, its existence inherently lies outside the scope of scientific proof either for or against. Thus personal faith and individual experiences remain the key basis influencing views on God's existence.