Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 121. (Read 845650 times)

I'm not arguing with that. Is just that he himself said that a proof of god was how good his creation was. I was just trying to make him understand that the human creation is far from perfect.

God DID make the first people immune to everything. In fact, everything, including the things that we call disease today, are not working the way they were made, because mankind deliberately decided to go against the laws of nature that God had made for mankind. This corrupted the whole thing. The first law of nature was to love God above all things.

"Well, why didn't God make mankind so that they wouldn't go against the laws?"

No free will that way. God wanted people to have freedom... the freedom to choose what was right over the freedom to choose what was wrong.

The question is about you. Now that you believe in God so much that you are discussing the whys and hows of the things that He did and does, when are you going to realize that God is so much of a greater thinker than you, and that you really need to start by studying some of the religious books around, so that you can get some of the understanding about God? This rather than trying to piece things together from forum answers.

 

"If ALL were PERFECTION--there would be no need for the experience. Ponder it."
Phoenix Journal #59

Are you deliberating not trying to understand? God could have made us immune to anything in the first place. How dense are you?

Not true! MAN wants to leave the Bible as it is, people like you will reject any changes to the Bible.
The main concern is the lies that were added to the Bible which people like you try to justify with fallacious reasoning, lies like the stories mentioned on evilbible.com and all of the writings of Paul as well as his new religion of "Jesus Salvation".
The other primary concern is similar: true gospels and teachings that were left out and practically forgotten. It is ignorance to stick to the version of events that authorities want you to accept in spite of the evidence. By the way, Jesus did instruct us to be like a little child who is always asking "why?".

You are very judgmental. But that is only a christian virtue not to be. So be it. You do not claim to be christian.

Infections poses a very important role in the body. I propose you to read some things before you make accusations. I propose you to read http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/the-nature-and-purpose-of-disease/toxemia-is-the-universal-cause-of-disease.html.

Alright bro, you made it clear that you are indeed delusional. Not much more to say really. ''Infections are good'' You understand that god could have made us immune to infections in the first place right? Nah you don't because your delusion does not let you see clear.

It is perfect because they do not take into account that humans are storing a looooot of fat and still remain straight up. Ostriches does not do that. You cannot compare one animal that is bipedal and adjust its system design to another system that has different feautures. Fat ostriches does not perform well. Fat humans perform very well.

Ostriches are not even a straightened up. They have feathers that helps them in their motorics etc etc.


Infections are good, especially those mild. They build up our immune system and give itself practice. WIthout practice our immune system detoriate as the law of atrophy states - The unused organs or muscles disapear slowly.

?? I don't know what you mean. They just said the human foot is far from perfect. Just like so many other things. Are you that delusional to not acknowledge that? I guess you think the human body is perfect or something.

The evidence that shows that these are made up stories is very weak. Just posting a link with weak reasoning does not absolve you of providing evidence for your claim. I already replied to your link earlier in the thread. You think that debunking consists of ridiculing the medium or the researcher so that is why you do not post any evidence for your claim.

Wow. I really didn't knew that Ostriches can have so much fat storage that is very handy in humans. It stores toxins and is useful to fuel the brain at times of fasting. I didn't knew that ostriches uses their hands to grab stuff and that they can have straight possition of the body to use their hands.

What do you know.... I suggest for that "scientists" to remove their useless bones in the feet. Yeah that would be smart.

Yes we are many times retarded and nonintelligent as this thread proves.


Bible was adultered. Yeah, but God wants to leave it that way, as a proof of crime against him. But those were just slight details as the bible was tried to be destroyed many many many times. If the bible was not destroyed that means it was not adultered much as well. Mainly the weird translations are the main concerns here. And people like you that interpret it ver very childlishly.

OK, but neither is anyone born a theist, that idea is gained usually through indoctrination and sometimes through self-reflection. It is indoctrination that causes people to believe that the Bible is unadulterated; as shown on the evilbible site, the facts do not fit your claim.
Patient and stable except for the story of Isaac? Looks to me like YHWH needs to learn some boundaries.

Our Achy Knees. Again, an aftereffect of bipedalism. We have to distribute all our weight on just two limbs, which often leads to aches and pains. You can also add achy, or arthritic hips, to this list.
The Overly Complicated Human Foot. Starting with the foot, DeSilva held up a cast with 26 bones and said: "You wouldn't design it out of 26 moving parts." Our feet have so many bones because our ape-like ancestors needed flexible feet to grasp branches. But as they moved out of the trees and began walking upright on the ground in the past 5 million years or so, the foot had to become more stable, and bit by bit, the big toe, which was no longer opposable, aligned itself with the other toes and our ancestors developed an arch to work as a shock absorber. "The foot was modified to remain rigid," said DeSilva. "A lot of BandAids were stuck on these bones." But the bottom line was that our foot still has a lot of room to twist inwards and outwards, and our arches collapse. This results in: ankle sprains, plantar fasciitis, Achilles tendonitis, shin splints, and broken ankles. These are not modern problems, due to stiletto heels; Fossils show broken ankles that have healed as far back as 3 million years ago.

A better design for upright walking and running, DeSilva said, would be a foot and ankle like an ostrich. An ostrich's ankle and lower leg bones are fused into a single structure, which puts a kick into their step—and their foot has only two toes that aid in running. "Why can't I have a foot like that?"

Humans have several sinuses — air-filled cavities that help with drainage of mucus and fluid. But our maxillary sinuses, located on our cheekbone, drain upwards. This often leads to the build-up of fluids and mucus, which can cause an infection.

This is the perfect creation of god providing humans with just one set of teeth for our entire adult lives. Once we hit 35, our teeth start to go.

Many of our cognitive biases — annoying glitches in our thinking that cause us to make questionable decisions and reach erroneous conclusions — are a consequence of our limited intelligence and predisposed tendencies. Examples include the confirmation bias (we love to agree with people who agree with us), the gambler's fallacy (the tremendous weight we tend to put on previous events that aren't causal factors), our tendency to neglect or misjudge probability, and the status-quo bias (we often make choices that guarantee that things remain the same). Some of these are adaptive traits, but others are simply cognitive deficiencies.

Is this not wonderful that most of us does know what is hygiene and good manners of not eating while talking? That is why we have brains, and the commandment to honor the parents that teach us not to die by chocking on a precell.

If not all that, we would have probably talk, eat, have sex (maybe not shit because that would be smelly, but maybe that as well) at the same time.

I don't know what do you mean by not having all vitamins we need. That is called eating. And the bacterias we have in our bowels is the result of mutual benefits between us and the bacterias. It is possible to not have the very smelly poop. It is all doable, the problem is in us. We can screw our gut health all up and still not die.

We're forced to use the same anatomical structure for both ingestion and respiration. But when obstructed, airflow is blocked, which can lead to choking, and in some cases, death. Also, because we can't make all the vitamins we need, we carry a host of deadly bacteria in our bowels, which produce them for us. But when this process is disrupted, like a hole in the intestine, it can flare into peritonitis. The urinary tract in males passes through — rather than being routed around — the prostate gland, which can swell and block urinary function.
The Close Proximity of our Genitals to our Rectum. Not only is this aesthetically displeasing, it's also unhygienic. Combined with our short urethras — especially in women — this leads to frequent urinary tract and bladder infections. Speaking of which, human females have an unreasonably narrow birth canal, resulting in significantly increased risks to both mother and child during birth.

God proves again that he knows his creation very well.

Mastery of sarcasm there.


Yay. You learn quick2learn. Good. Good.


That joke does not make sense. If you would know anything at all you would know that Jesus said it is good to not agree on everything within the body of Christ. If anyone acts as if he think its bad not agree on everything, he should reconcile if he belongs to the body of Christ.


Every belief has it's rite of passage. He could not give the rites of passage to Izaak by baptising him because the passover of Jews from Egypt had not happened. The walk off the waters had not any meaning.

Many rites of passage are waaaaaaaay more humiliating, brutal, and such. I bet you have some in your new age belief, that you are not yet aware of. Maybe you have not yet been allowed to have rites of passage. I have heard that in masonic temples people literally are killed by chocking and being reanimated. That is cruel. God had not done anything like that.

It has more meaning of going out of the world that kills babies to the world of mercy by the rites of passage. God have made us like so. The other rites of passage that are not of God are of the Satan like Jesus is saying about the seed.


That is why God have taken Abraham out of it by the rites of the passage. It is more important what you leave behind in the rites of passage. For example Abraham had left behind human traditions of cruelty towards children. Masons are leaving self reliance into group thinking. etc etc.


No. I criticize it with merits. A lot of merits actually, you just fail to see it.  


Understanding the Bible is understanding that human being is sinful and what he might not percieve as evil he might have seen by the gift of wisdom. You should pray for this gift with your prayers, if you do them.

And no. No people are born atheist. It is a myth. Children are born extremely faithful but to their parents, not any diety. And children at some age are extremely evil by their own. They do everything that they can not do. You would not call children good if you would have one. Believe me. Not that they deserve punishment. They do not. They just need a emotionaly stable father to show the children their boundaries, just like our father in heaven is the most patient, stable and unchanging father.


Astargath. Can I have one of my stories to the mountain of stories of God and science?

Ok. I will. There were studies that was measuring IQ of of brothers according wheter they had been born first or not.
Those studies had shown that people that were born first had a statistical superiority in their IQ. But what was the most shocking and interesting was another observation.

When the oldest brother died the second brother was becoming the first one his iq were becoming higher to reflect that he is the first born now.

That is why there is so much talking about the first born this or first born that. It is a title and a gift from God to protect your younger siblings. God proves again that he knows his creation very well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4203966/First-born-children-really-smarter-says-new-study.html

Nobody. Only Adam made first. Then God took a rib of Adam and made Eve. Filled up ribcage with flesh.

Eve probably looked like a small (rib-size) Adam with curves and long hair.

Big people come from Adam. Small people come from Eve.

yes I totally agree with the above article but the question becomes more clear who among the early humans with the prophet adam created on earth?

And circle of the earth can clearly be a flat earth because the flat earth would be a circle.

Revelation 7:1 - After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth

The bible isn't contradicting itself as usual, is it?